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00:07:580 - aka this entire intro section - the strong note hits every 3 sounds so how come the patterns aren't close-to-repeating every 3 notes? would make them stand out more, could have something like [412][412][143][143] if you dont want them too repeating as an example

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00:12:380 (12380|3) - could make this to 1/2 LN because you did at 00:07:580 (7580|0) - this

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00:15:680 - to 00:16:430 -

Why you suddenly breaking the flow pattern like Hydria said :(
I suggest to rearrange this to make flow pattern like previous pattern :3
Exceptional for 00:16:280 - and 00:16:430 - you could do like these: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/18552295/dd98

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I did a goofy 💀💀💀, I think I was trying to fit the pattern and made it like that, anyways I fixed it

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00:27:230 (27230|3) - i'd move this to 1 and 00:27:380 (27380|1,27530|2) - to [2][3] for better pitch relevancy

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00:29:480 (29480|3,29630|0) - move the first one to 1 and the 2nd one to 3 as the latter note is higher

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Do I repeat this pattern with the rest or just change this one?

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repeat it where the exact melody is the same

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00:30:980 (30980|1) - Move this to col 1 since you didn't make any 1/4 anchor like other's pattern

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Done

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Done

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Fixed it

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00:53:180 - add one note to 3rd column for the long sound + tick-like sound.

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Done

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00:55:805 (55805|0) - is this supposed to be at 00:55:730 -

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Woops lol, fixed

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00:57:380 - there's nothing here that would require another LN to be started

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So make the LN a single note?

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Actually just remove the note and extend the previous one out my bad

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The note is there because it's following the 1/2 melody in the bg, do I keep it or remove it?

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Will revisit it tomorrow

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okay

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looking at what you've done now seems fine

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00:59:817 (59817|2,59855|3) - Swap these columns because I feel like making stack 1/8 notes is kinda heavy, and also this is 200 BPM

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Done

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01:00:680 (60680|1,60830|2) - any reason these aren't LNs?

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Made it into LN, done

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01:00:980 (60980|0) - Why you don't make this to 1/4 LN just you did in 01:01:580 (61580|1) - ?

If you accept this, swap 01:00:980 (60980|0,61017|1) - these column. My reason is same as #3682799

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Yeah that could work, fixed

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01:01:655 (61655|3) - change LN length the same as 01:01:580 (61580|1,61617|2) -

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Done

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Fixed

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why ignore note? :v 01:09:980 and 01:19:580 Like what u did on 01:07:580 (67580|3) - and 01:12:380 (72380|1) - and 01:17:180 (77180|3) -

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Fixed it

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01:23:180 (83180|1,83330|0) - Can prob extend the LN by 1 bar? Since the sound here is longer Like this sound here on 01:23:480 (83480|2,83630|3) - sounds shorter (Can playback rate 50% if u agree)

Like what you did on -> 04:47:180 (287180|3,287380|2,287530|1,287630|0) - (u could prob use the same pattern but re-arrange it)

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I made a small tweak, lmk if it should be changed

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01:24:980 (84980|2) - i think move this note here? ( 01:25:130 or 01:25:055 ) i don't trust my ears lol

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Idk lmao, might have to look at other charts because I just guess randomly

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I fixed it

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01:26:180 - for the entire section, if you're following the drum pattern, it goes (for each bar): [1--4][1-3-][1--4][1-34](1234 for 2nd and 4th repeating sections), if you need more explanation on this just say so

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I'm having a bit of trouble understanding that, can you explain it more? And also if able send a Screenshot so I can understand better?

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Errr 1 is white tick, 3 is red tick, 2 and 4 are blue ticks, drawing will have to wait until tomorrow/monday if you still need it

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okay

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if you're still curious https://i.imgur.com/S7dsEtj.png those red lines are where the drum beats land (the length of the line is not important)

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Ohhhhhhhhh

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I done it

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01:35:780 - for this section, instead of reducing the triples here to better represent the vocal bits, why not make them mini LNs instead

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Done

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01:35:930 (95930|0,95930|1,95930|3) - We need to move one of these notes to col 3 because you using jack 2 notes in 01:36:080 - , 01:36:980 - , and 01:37:280 - those sections

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Fixed it

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01:40:580 - here's an idea to give more identity to the 1/16 and the 1/8 pattern changes here: have the 1/16 patterns locked to something like [21][34] and [12][43] so they're either both pointing towards or away from the centre (i'd recommend doing 1 for one bar and the other for the other bar) and then having the 1/8 go in a straight line, whether that's 1234 or 4321

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Does repeating it for the other 2 sections of the song work? as in 02:54:980 and 05:04:580

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can do

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01:45:380 (105380|1) - the SVs in this map overall make it extremely difficult to read normally, and have zero warning / fluid transitions into them, i'd suggest either removing them entirely or fixing them to be more normalised / fluid

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I'd rather not remove the sv, how do you think I should go about fixing it?

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01:45:530 - 01:46:430 - missing notes on 2

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Do you mean 01:45:530 and 01:46:430 or...

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yep and it seems like you've already added them

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01:46:280 missing note? Because there is a soft clap sound here, just like you put one here also 01:45:680

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I think I fixed it, tell me if I haven't

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01:46:805 - missing sound that could be utilised

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Done

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01:47:255 - this needs a note to transition better into the mini jumptrill

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Done, I think I made the transition a bit better

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01:49:580 - i'd say this is the bigger sound out of this and 01:49:505 - so the later one should have more notes

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So 01:49:505 is a double and 01:49:580 is a triple?

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yep perfect

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01:49:730 (109730|2,109805|0,109880|1,109955|3,110030|2,110105|1) - why not have these grouped in pairs of 2 to match the music aka [33][44][22]

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01:54:680 (114680|0,114680|3,114755|1,114830|2,114830|3,114905|0) - if you're not willing to repeat the earlier section here at least make this more exciting by putting minijcks in so something like [34][3][12][1] (and rearrange earlier pattern)

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Done, re arranged some patterns at 01:54:155 - 01:54:905

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Ye fixed it

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I changed 02:01:055 - 02:01:430 into mini jacks, so it becomes [22] [11] [33], does that work?

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yeah i reckon that looks fine

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02:01:580 - this should be more than a double

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Changed into a triple, and also changed 02:01:730 into a triple, does that work?

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yeah that seems okay

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I made the double in 02:04:880 (124880|0,124880|1) into a triple, does that work?

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02:04:730 (124730|3,124730|0,124730|1,124992|2,124992|3,124992|0) - i still reckon these should be brought down to a double since there's not as intense sound here

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Does the same thing apply for 02:04:992 ?

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yeah

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you think u can move this part? 02:08:930 (128930|0,129080|0,129230|0) - to col 2 for better hand balance so no torture for left hand
cuz rn it looks like this (02:08:180 (128180|0,128330|0,128480|0,128630|0,128780|0,128930|0,129080|0,129230|0) - )

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Me like this change, changed it to the 2nd collumn instead of the first one so no finger torture lol

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02:09:380 - why is this not 1/8? if it's for the 1/2 chords you could just flatten down the left side and have the right side still be 1/8

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I was actually not sure how to approach this part of the song, thanks

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02:18:080 (138080|2) - AIMod Error detected

Man, why you put shortest LN in here and this suppose to be normal note D:

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wait what he fuck that's LN??? 💀💀💀💀

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02:25:730 (145730|2,145730|0,145730|3) - this does not need to be a triple

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I changed it into a double

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02:30:980 - why aren't the short chimes used in this section so the user isn't just holding two chords for over 7 seconds

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I redid the section and added some mini 1 note LNs for the chimes, also shorten the long LNs

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02:32:236 (152236|1) - a lot of the notes here representing the violin are off sync

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I changed it be1/2 snaps, and also added a note for the mini claps

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02:35:517 (155517|3) - this violin note doesn't change pitch.

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Fixed

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02:37:917 (157917|1) - this violin note doesn't change pitch either

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Fixed

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02:39:380 (159380|2,159380|3) - should find a way to represent the growl going on here since it's the most prominent sound

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I do get that, but I still want the LN SV to be in, and trying to represent the growl while keepin that element in is a bit too hard, do you know any way of going about it?

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Hmm... I could give any suggestion about this, by making single LN for representating growl sound in here. With that, beside for following growl sound, you could representate the background sound since they have same time to appear.

Example:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/18552330/c47c

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About SV, I think you could make some SV that change from fast to slow.

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What if it goes from slow to fast?

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02:42:905 (162905|0) - move to 02:42:755 - to avoid the minijack as other similar sounds didnt have minijack like 02:45:155 (165155|3,165155|0,165230|2,165230|1,165305|0,165380|2,165380|3,165380|1) -

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Fixed

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02:50:630 - this is just not as good as the original buildup, i'd rather see the original build up twice

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I replaced the second buildup with the first one, done

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03:01:580 (181580|2,181580|3,181580|1,181730|0,181730|1) - can do a bit more with this like having the 1/4 lines having single notes at 1 and then moving the red line double to [34]

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wdym by having the 1/4 lines having single notes at 1?

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Basically putting a note on the blue lines at column 1

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Oh I see what you mean now

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Done, if it's not what you meant, you can tell me

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03:02:480 - there is a hard beat every 1/1. i would expect a triple chord on every 1/1. i think there just needs to be some consistency cleanup all around this

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03:02:580 (182580|0,182630|1,182705|2) - why are you no longer doing the harder mini trills for these notes? they were perfect for this and so should be continued

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I overlook that part of the chart lol, I fixed it

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03:13:880 (193880|0,193880|1,194030|2,194030|3) - do some more LN stuff w/ these

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Done

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03:40:580 - just have this be 1 LN with one single note and use the 1/2 sounds otherwise zzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Done

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Done and fixed

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04:50:180 - idk man, this section having so many jumptrills/splittrills kinda just takes away from the melody; it feels unnecessarily dense. might be worth taking a step back and looking what actually needs note representation in this section, definitely considering the buildup after it is currently less dense for some reason

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Yeah I think I should re do this chart, I did the splittrills because the original ranked one's melody is like that, so I put it in as like a little mini easter egg

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I have redone them, let me know how it is

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it kinda just misses the mark when it comes to following the melody. in this image https://i.imgur.com/QSF9Hnk.png i would expect everything next to a red line at the minimum to have a double, which is fine for all except one, so i would rearrange to fit that (this goes for like every bar), though you can have more doubles that aren't on the red lines in this section as well, don't think it's too limited

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Sorry for the long response, I was busy with school, but I have done a bit of improvement on the sections

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I made some slight improvements on this, 04:50:180 - 04:59:780 I made some of the notes grace notes to match a part of the music and the vocals in the music, and 04:59:780 - 05:04:580 I made the jumpstream into grace notes to fit the song, idk if it's good or not tho

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I think I'm done, if it needs more fixing, you can tell me, though I might tweak this part here and there in the future, overall, thanks hydria for mapping this map, very cool!!!! 👍👍👍👍

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sorry for the equally long repsonse, i got caught with the just-not-opening-the-game-for-10-days, I noticed that you applied the changes to the first bar of notes at 04:50:180 - but the changes are still missing from 04:51:380 - up to 04:58:580 - so if you can apply the same changes all the way up that'd be perfect

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Okay I made some "improvements", but ngl, kinda confused on how to fix that part

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honestly as long as 04:51:380 - to 04:58:580 - matches 04:50:180 - to 04:51:380 - in terms of double placement as shown by the above image it's fine, though this current layout is acceptable too if you're just happy with how it is now

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05:28:280 (328280|2,328355|2,328430|1,328505|1) - Suggesting to remove to change to singles since its not strong sounds.

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05:28:280 (328280|2) - I think keeping this note here can work to match the song

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Lmk if there's any issue

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05:40:205 (340205|2,340205|1,340205|3,340280|2) - this should be 2 doubles instead of a triple and then a single

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Done

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05:40:505 (340505|0,340505|1) - remove as there is no strong sound occur to put double in here. With that this 05:40:430 (340430|1,340430|0) - can be triple and you can even add one note at column 1 in 05:40:580 -

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05:40:580 - why all of a sudden, like 3/4 into the chorus, does it just get suddenly easier in terms of patterning?

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Do you think I should just use the patterns from the similar section before (05:30:980 - 05:35:780) right up until 05:45:680 ? Since I feel like the section in 05:45:680 feels okay enough

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it's fine as it is right now

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05:44:555 (344555|0,344630|3) - would suggest removing these two notes to give more emphasis on the melody AND the jumptrill beats afterwards

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Done

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05:52:055 (352055|2,352205|1,352430|3) - ok make these LNs, mainly 05:52:430 (352430|3) - which goes up FAR aka with the rest of the LNs, 05:52:580 (352580|1,352580|2) - make these single notes and then do some 1/2 stuff in the middle two columns (not just alternating notes back and forth)

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I reworked that part to instead of having 3 LNs, I made it into 1 LN and 2 single notes, and added the 1/2 stuff, I also added SV on that part, but I think I need someone to help me with these since it feels off, but I think it's done

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