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nominated by Decku and Furryswan
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Note to myself:
Feedback on normal, simplify snaps > reduce graces > reduce 1/6 RC
Hard, less chords > more compact spacing > better progression between Normal + Insane
15/8/21 hopefully done

Metadata source: https://ii-l.bandcamp.com/album/project-vanguard

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According to #2536317 , NM diff sometimes intentionally ignored the diff-specific guideline in Normal about "Note snappings of consecutive 1/6 and above should not be used. Slower rhythms are more appropriate for this difficulty level.".

Considering there's no additional notes nearby 2~3 consecutive notes applying 1/6 or any above snap, I think that guideline can be ignored in this case.

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I just like the song

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men

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<3

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:D

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This beatmap set was updated by the mapper after a nomination. Please ensure to re-check the beatmaps for new issues. If you are the mapper, please comment in this thread on what you changed.

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☠️bancho
4/9/21 darkist mods on NM

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i hate bancho i hate you grrrrrrrrr

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Marked as resolved by Irone OSU

wait what

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OMG IS THAT AMOG US

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yeah xd

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DQed since we didn't know that the mapper listed this beatmap into the mappers' guild. And so there wasn't " mappers' guild " in the tags field smh.

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add mg too 🤓

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THANKS RANKING CRITERIA i mean person

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Marked as resolved by Irone OSU

wheres the ln grace :(

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i got rice grace 4 u

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Looking through all of the difficulties, can I ask, why are there different snapping for notes placed?

TIMEPOINTS ALL IN NORMAL
E.g: 00:59:279, looking in the N diff it's 1/4, but in the hard diff it's 1/8 and in the top diff it's 1/6? What's going on?

As well as the note at 00:58:221, which is also shown to have different snappings in each difficulty, please respond to this.

I want to see why you did what you did.

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The 1/4 simplification in NM is following the intensity and rapidity of the melody, while hard diff is just a density and layer nerf from top diff. It seems that I'm trying to follow the synth sounds but there's so much different synth sound playing at different melody I try to establish a static rhythm by following the 1/1 drum beats, as compared to previous sections where the drum beat aren't really on 1/1. I've rearranged 00:58:044 ~ 01:09:338 on NM and Hard, this time I'm following the additional synths and drum beat at the same time with certain nerfs. Please take a look.
Also I don't get what u mean by 1/6 in top diff, I see no note lying on purple stuff wtf bro

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1/6 was my bad. i didn't update the map :pensive:

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soon you're gonna forget updating osu..

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You guys gonna solve this or are there something left?

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We will solve it once check of mine is done owo

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solving cause boom

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Marked as resolved by Decku

(Applies in NM, HD, last difficulty.)

I think the pattern from 01:42:779 - to 01:42:890 - had to be the same structure from 01:20:191 - to 01:20:279 - to maintain consistency.

In addition, it's also inconsistent with the pattern from 01:31:485 - to 01:31:573 - . I think just uniting those sounds' expressions into one structure would be less controversial since they're exactly the same sounds.

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And I think the note at 01:48:456 - should be snapped at 01:48:426 - . It used 1/4, not a 1/6.

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Top diff: used wacky 1/16 snaps graces
HD: Double+ 2x 1/8
NM: 2x 1/8 single
take a look

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alr seems fair enough

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Marked as resolved by Furryswan

*Wrong snap, hitsounds

*(HS)

Clap at 00:57:426 - should be changed into whistle. The actual clap sound is starting at 00:57:471 - .

Missed clap at 01:42:779 -

  • (1/6) I believe II-L didn't even use any 1/16 snap.

01:15:757 - should be snapped at 01:15:750 -
01:18:096 - should be 01:18:103 -
01:18:206 - should be 01:18:221 -
01:19:338 - should be 01:19:338 -
01:22:154 - should be 01:22:162 -
01:22:287 - should be 01:22:279 -
01:23:743 - should be 01:23:750 -
01:23:875 - should be 01:23:868 -
01:24:625 - should be 01:24:632 -
01:24:757 - should be 01:24:750 -
01:26:919 - should be 01:26:926 -
01:27:801 - should be 01:27:809 -
01:27:934 - should be 01:27:926 -
01:29:390 - should be 01:29:397 -
01:29:522 - should be 01:29:515 -
01:30:272 - should be 01:30:279 -
01:30:404 - should be 01:30:397 -
01:32:301 - should be 01:32:309 -
01:32:573 - should be 01:32:573 -
01:32:698 - should be 01:32:691 -
01:33:448 - should be 01:33:456 -
01:33:581 - should be 01:33:573 -
01:34:463 - should be 01:34:456 -
01:35:037 - should be 01:35:044 -
01:35:169 - should be 01:35:162 -
01:35:919 - should be 01:35:926 -
01:36:051 - should be 01:36:044 -
01:36:272 - should be 01:36:279 -
01:36:404 - should be 01:36:397 -
01:38:213 - should be 01:38:221 -

*(1/8)
01:21:272 - should be snapped at 01:21:294 -
01:37:948 - should be 01:37:971 -

*(Wrong 1/8)

01:34:353 - should be snapped at 01:34:338 -

In this way, try fix some wrong 1/16 snaps into 1/6 or 1/8.

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copy&paste hell i can feel the pain
fixed all across all diffs

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Marked as resolved by Irone OSU

Why 01:39:221 - is still applying 1/16 nap, not a 1/6?

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Reopened by Furryswan
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fixed all across all diffs except 01:42:801 cuz it should be graces to express the kick spam sound.

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Marked as resolved by Irone OSU

ah I see, fair enough.

But now HD diff needs W(hitsound) at 00:23:985 - and 00:35:279 - :'(

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Reopened by Furryswan

added

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Marked as resolved by Irone OSU

I think tags field also needs "VANGUARD" since this song's from the series of 'PROJECT VANGUARD'. And I'd like to ask does "juke Experimental Satellite" related to anything on this music, just to be sure.

  • Hitsound

(Last diff): Needs W at 01:20:323 (80323|1) -
(Normal): 00:57:868 - has to be C instead of W

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  • Metadata
    Current: fa featured artist psy footcore electronic juke footwork psytrance instrumental Experimental Satellite Project
    These metadata were copied from other sets, after some digging I find out that "satellite" is supposed to indicate the actual Project Vanguard in 1959 about some satellite and rocket stuff, removed cuz I think it's unnecessary.
    The word "Juke" is in the bandcamp https://ii-l.bandcamp.com/album/project-vanguard
    "Experimental" ..well I mean the song is pretty experimental so I put it there.
    Also added "IIL VANGUARD3" for better searchability, "VANGUARD" is substringed in this case.
    Final Metadata: fa featured artist psy footcore electronic juke footwork psytrance instrumental Experimental IIL VANGUARD3 Project

  • Hitsound fixed

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Marked as resolved by Irone OSU

Errr I don't think "Experimental" could be written in tags field since it doesn't relate with the music or artist

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Reopened by Furryswan

hmm sure ig, remove

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Marked as resolved by Irone OSU

From 00:24:162 - to 00:35:456 - , I think the current simplification of NM HD diff in this section was too inconsistent and would be controversial in each player's standards of simplification.

I would rather suggest you just express every 1/4 synth sounds in NM, HD difficulty as well and manage the density gap by nerfing some doubles in NM HD diff into single.

If this suggestion would ignore the difficulty-specific guideline in NM difficulty of "Avoid using more than 5 consecutive 1/4 notes." I think you can ignore it in this case.

Example(Left side NM, right side HD) : https://imgur.com/a/3jpDT9P

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mapped too much taiko and applied similar style in mania oops
rearranged accordingly, apply suggestion and depicted the 2 sections in 00:24:162 ~ 00:35:456 with different style of layering to show progression.

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Marked as resolved by Irone OSU

Nom mark

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hmhhmhm nomnom

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Hype!

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-Wick-!

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Irone!

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polyriddim

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nsv

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true

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leavin a hype here as a reward, nice set!

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🥺 thank you

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🤢

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🤢

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yop

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yap

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👍

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funny music

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funny map

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拉麵-1

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吃飯

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:sp4:

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:sp4-2:

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ハオチェゥーオ

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:haocheo:

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