The way I see it, this includes me btw, that there aren't enough maps that have overlaps as far as I'm aware. This is why many, including me at this skill level (Sub 5) aren't able to read overlaps even though the rest of the map is "playable". The map shouldn't be trashed for that...
So why in the absolute f*** is the top diff hp9? Certified "oh damn my grip slipped and I missed 1 circle and then got 2 100s, oh s*** I'm already dead?" moment.
Only terrible because you can't read it. Realistically, it is really damn well mapped and plays EXTREMELY well. Shame people who suck are rating is low.
Not bad! Haters are gonna hate. I think it's true that if a map looks good on paper but doesn't play well then it shouldn't be ranked (that's obviously what the loved section is for), but I think this map found a middle ground where it looks cool and plays pretty decently. But I do feel like most of the hate is because there aren't many maps like this and people aren't used to playing stuff like this
>Not participating in modding the map during pending
>Throwing tantrum because it's too hard / can't pass / not pp farm map
>"Expertly" criticizing the map (also subjectively) post-qualify via disqus
the point of qualified is so that more players can be exposed to it, and offer feedback while in the qualified stage. that's why the qualified stage exists.
that's true but if the feedback isn't even useful (all I've seen people say is "this map is bad", etc.) then why post in the first place? Tell him why you think it's bad and give actual constructive criticism
>Commenting on people criticising the map via disqus
>Only one criticism present in disqus
>???
Also, I don't have any issues with the map per se, I just feel like recently ranked maps are becoming oversaturated with maps by Shiirn or Monstrata, for instance, whilst many other less well-known mappers and their (excellent) maps are having a much harder time getting their maps modded, ranked or exposed than experienced mappers like Shiirn.
Also x2, don't be pretentious. Not every player is actively seeking new maps, or is skilled enough to give extensive feedback through modding, and since mappers who go for rank often do so to get more people to play their maps, then I expect the ordinary player to have the same rights to feedback and critique as a modder.
1. If you really care THAT much, then become a part of mapping community that willingly want to help and expose underexposed maps! In fact, we never reject people like that to be here.
2. There's a fine line between constructive critique and childish whining.
A mod doesn't have to be as good and as detailed as experienced mapper/modder's mod (though if you want to that's GREAT), but do note that it has to be reasonable, not just "i don't like, change or riot".
To help you understand, let's use a concrete example: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/... >> this is one of the mod given to this map. It doesn't point a lot of stuffs, and in fact, it's all pointing out about minor stuffs (aesthetic). It's not high quality like what you expect, BUT!!!!! does it helpful? yes. That is a mod. A feedback that we look for. A critique that we need.
"Focking another Shiirn map?" and "Re-do Altros?" is not constructive, not objective, and obviously not helpful. This is not a critique NOR a feedback. This is a helpless subjective opinion. You are the one who needs feedback.
Then again,,,,,,,, who am I to say stuffs like this? I'm just a 6 digit osu player! I forget to know my place!!!
nah, it's not that. new mappers have to create different concepts of beatmaps if they want theirs ranked or smth. it's not that being a new mapper is hard, you have to create something new if you want to be famous for mapping.
holy shit why so much hate?... everyone may have different opinion's but just be cause someone has a different mapping style then the casual 2017 anime maps doesn't mean you have to hate on it. i've seen worst maps then this. i think Shiirn is a great mapper and should keep doing what hes doing ♥
Meh don't understand why all these people flaming, yea, highest diff is definitely not easy to read or FC, but cmon, it's pretty possible to pass + I feel song by playing these patterns. Imo ranked section has many maps that shittier than this one by many times, but for some reasons people getting mad playing this one, feels strange tbh
Don't really like the dream fragments beginning, feels uncomfortable but I get it if it's your style. I just don't think it's good but I'm not good so not much of myself to judge here.
People seem to misunderstand. It's not about MY style. It's about what I feel the music should be represented as. Comfort and playability is secondary to providing an interesting experience or representation of the music, to me. That's why I map. Not to make simple, easy-to-play translations of music. That's too easy and I feel it's disrespectful to good music.
Hello, Altros, my old friend
I've come to smack sense into you again
Because my vision often keeps seeing
Left is speedranking while Shiirn was :thinking:
And the visage that is burned into the ranked
Still's a shitstain
Within the bounds of nonsense
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