1. Easy+ (3.12 stars, 230 notes)
2. Hard (4.6 stars, 477 notes)
3. Insane (4.94 stars, 502 notes)
4. Normal (4.17 stars, 336 notes)
5. Simple (2.33 stars, 188 notes)

Thunderstorm wrote:

Requested mod session go

General
Offset=500
Don't forget to resnap all notes
Without BG it'll be unranked
[Normal]
Don't use 1/8 beat snap
Replace notes using 1/4 as maximum
Whole map is looks more like a mess for now

[Hard]
Same as [Normal]

thepianist wrote:

Hmm interesting...choice of music? Anyways

[Normal]
00:21:673 (1) - Move back to red tick<fixed>
Perhaps use a silent slider roll?
00:35:261 (3) - Move endpoint to the 5/6 tick<It's set like that intentionally>
01:20:401 (5) - sounds weird :/<Don't know how to fix>
02:18:694 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Is a mess to read D: Turn up OD a bit?<How will that help>
02:20:027 (x) - Perhaps something here?<There's no sound there>
02:31:560 (4,5) - Just sounds off <huh?>
02:46:969 (3,4) - Don't feel it's needed. It doesn't sync. <removed>
02:47:748 (9,10) - Somehow move it a bit later <fixed>
02:51:514 (4,5) - Red and white ticks respectively? <fixed>
02:53:379 (1,2,3,4) - A bit confusing to read <fixed>

[Kadyone's]
No BG image D:
Is everything a bit late in this one?
00:27:140 (1) - Ends on white tick? 2 starts on red, ends on white, 3 starts on red again.
00:32:840 (4) - Too short.
Wait, the timing is different from the Normal. (Will continue after this is fixed.)

[Test]
The timing is different from both Kadyone's AND normal?
Is this going to submitted? (or is accidentally included) The difficulty names says it there...

[Insane]
00:17:845 (1) - Move to white tick
00:27:661 (2) - Why the random jump?
00:29:661 (4) - White tick to first 1/6 tick after the 2nd white tick
00:49:032 (3) - 1/6 tick after red tick
00:54:271 (4) - Change to slider to catch 2nd la
01:23:562 (1) - Repeats don't match the nanana's
01:29:738 (1) - ^
01:35:852 (1) - ^
01:46:548 (2) - Move back 1/6
02:04:535 (3) - Random jump? :/
02:15:763 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Japanese rage + streams D:
Actually most things still sound a little late in general... (ie 03:17:168 (1,2,3,4,5,6))

(And I thought timing my map was horrible.)

Oh wait, the star rating on hard was higher...

I'll finish this later. Sorry~

Krisom wrote:

HiHi!

-General-
-Try to find a better Background, as 320x240 is too tiny D:
-And there's an .osb, but no storyboard, so remove it and full submit (and yeah, it always happens) okay will do.

-Normal-
-Use more hitsounds =D I'll try. It's hard when the beat changes so often.
-00:14:667 (1,2,3) I recommend changing this into a repeat slider from 00:14:667 to 00:15:196 and back to 00:15:726, considering it is a normal difficulty and most normal players won't read a 1/6th note easily. After they've heard the first pattern, they'll recognize it when it's coming again as hitcircles But those notes aren't 1/6th spaced.
-00:16:786 (2,3,4) Same recomendation as above, repeat slider from 00:16:786 to 00:16:984 and back to 00:17:183I don't think I want to change the intro. It's fun to play as it is. BTW those are 1/3 spaced and not 1/6th spaced. i'll consider the change is someone else mentions it.
-00:17:382 (5) Shorten this slider to 00:17:580 Fixed although the sound extended past that tick.
-00:17:845 (1,2) Turn these into a slider from 00:17:845 to 00:18:375 ?That would throw off the entire intro, I don't want to touch these notes.
-00:21:673 (1) It may be just me but this sounds better on 00:21:608 if you are following the "lyrics" Good catch. Fixed.
-00:22:127 (2) And (again) it may be just me but I think this one sounds better on 00:22:192 Fixed.
-From 00:26:478 to 00:39:461. I had a hard time reading these sliders. What are they following? The "lyrics" or the beat? You may want to recheck them, as they are (anyway) too hard for a normal diff. It's the base. I don't want to follow the vocal overlay. If anyone suggests a reasonable way I could fit these long sliders in any other way, I'll consider the change. But this was my fix to a previous note pattern here.
-Consider adding a spinner from 00:55:849 to 00:57:409 to fill this gap I agree.
-01:01:486 (7) Again, I think this one sounds better on 01:01:422. Look the same "Lyric" notes on 00:54:863 (6,7), they are 1 beat of distance, so 01:01:486's (7) should be 1 beat of distance from 01:01:040's (6) i'm not quite sure I understood what you said before, but I fixed the spacing error. I'm not quite sure how that happened. I swear notes randomly snap off sync when I upload.
-Consider adding a spinner at 01:02:059 too. It should last up to 01:03:333. Done.
-Consider adding a spinner at 01:08:212 (too). This one should end at 01:09:486 Done.
-Consider removing 01:14:326's break, adding a spinner at 01:14:326 and end it at 01:15:600 Done.
-End 01:16:938 (1)'s spinner at 01:18:272 Done.
-Make 01:18:788's repeat slider last up to 01:19:240 and repeat back to 01:19:691. Then, remove (2) from 01:19:691You know how long I've been looking for a way to fix this part of the map. This fix alone is worth a kudos.
-01:20:401 (5) New combo
-01:20:401 (5) Transform into a slider up to 01:20:788 (No repeats), then add another slider at 01:20:981 that lasts up to 01:21:369 (No repeats either) Thanks for these suggestions.
-01:21:369 If you consider the one above, move this slider to 01:21:756 and make it end at 01:22:143
(I'm sorry, I skipped from 01:23:562 to 01:41:223 =_=)
-01:41:353 (1) I'd move this one to 01:41:418. Fixed.
-01:59:665 (7) Make this shorter. Starts at 01:59:665 and ends at 01:59:924 (No repeats). If you did this, add a circle at 02:00:314. Done.
-02:00:704 (1) Make this longer. Start's at 02:00:704, repeats at 02:01:093 and back to 02:01:483. If you did, remove 02:01:483's (2) slider and add a circle at 02:01:678, or even better, deletle 02:02:067's (3) too and make a repeat slider from 02:01:678, repeats at 02:02:067 and 02:02:457, then it finish at 02:02:847.
-Remove 02:04:989's break, it ends too abruptly Not sure how to remove a break.
-From 02:21:603 to 02:39:853 there are some intresting patterns, but try not to follow that strictly the lyrics, create your own patterns based on the beat. There are hardly any vocals in this section. I was following the beat.
-Also, it seems a good idea to map from 02:39:853 to 02:39:543 with some sliders. The reason I haven't mapped there is that the beat gets muddled and blended there, making any pattern there asymmetrical and confusing. It's better to remain a break in normal.
-Consider mapping just up to 02:42:217, as 03:11:504 seems to be a random ending point. If you do, cut the MP3 to reduce the filesize. I haven't reached the point yet where I've decided to give up on the rest of the mp3. If I continue the map would end almost right on 4 minutes, but if I end it, it will end around where it does now.


Man, you chosed a really hard-to-map song <_< I've been told that by many people. This is my first beatmap too. I think I am doing a very good job at identifying the pattern and mapping it. It's only sucked up 40 plus hours of my time to get this far."

bmin11 wrote:

[Normal]
00:53:877 (2) - Increase the length of the slider to the white tick Good catch.
00:39:127 (3) - ^
01:26:659 (1,2,3,4,5) - Very mean spacing for an easiest diff
Reduced the spacing by 1.
01:35:852 (1) - Lower it abit so people won't get confused with the spacing Fixed
02:00:314 (2) - This note should not cover the repeat sign of the slider That was on my todo list. Fixed
02:09:151 (7) - Move this to the previous white tick IDK how I missed this. Fixed.

02:15:763 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - Brutal. It is hard to tell the timing t fits so perfectly with the beat and it is technically easier than the patterns in the other diffs.
Actually, please don't spam notes in [Normal]. This is your easiest diff. Keep it easyI tried. I spent quite a lot of time trying to think of an easier way to handle this section. there just isn't a way without destroying the flow or rhythm of the song.

[Hard]
The notes are off timing and no, this is not because of your timings. The notes are just simply off placed. Please go through the map and think if the note actually plays on the exact timing it meant to be. Oh and go through with your distance snaps too. I can't tell if they are jumps but I can tell that those spacings certainly doesn't flow
This will be around the third time I've done it. i'll do it after fixing insane mode.
[Insane]
The note sounds more like 1/3 rather then 1/4
00:20:229 (6) - Could be a short repeat slider
00:29:727 (4) - New combo so we can tell it has a different spacing
as I told you in irc, notes or off timing. Right now, you want to focus on fixing those notes

You can probably catch most of the errors by going through the map with half speed and distance snap on

adron zhero wrote:

I gave some hints but that didn't worked too well... xD

Well, Star by your effort, keep improving it...

1. Please use SAME Preview Time in all difficulties
2. And also, use SAME Timing (BPM and Offset) to all diffilties, use what awp had posted

1. This diff. need a background image

SPOILER

Shulin wrote:

General:

-- The timing is different on every difficulty make sure you fix this, a timing has already been provided so use that on all difficulties for now. Fixed. My math was wrong on several of them.

Normal:

-- Make sure it's correctly snapped.
-- Use a consistent distance snap.

That really is all I can add atm, the timing needs to be the same also so you can make sure it's snapped correctly etc etc.

Hard:

-- Similar snapping issues to Insane. I don't have the time to point them all out, but take examples from the mod on that diff.

01:12:486 (3,1) - Spacing, too far. I've been meaning to fix this. Thanks for pointing this out for me.
01:26:594 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - With so much overlapping it's hard to see what is going on. I like this though. It's a fun feature that only takes one go through to learn. If you don't get the pattern the first time, you'll know the pattern the second time around. IMO it's a lot better than some patterns I've seen on recently ranked maps.
02:06:901 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Confusing. The alternative is unstacking them. I might doi that with a higher distance snap.
02:16:007 (3,1) - Spacing, too far. Will be fixed with a higher distance snap.
02:16:374 (3,1) - ^
02:16:740 (3,1) - ^
02:20:512 (3,4,5,6,7) - Barely visible. Will be fixed with the higher snap.
02:57:392 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Imo you shouldn't space streams like this, hard to play and not very fun. Will be fixed with the higher snap

The main issue here is snapping again, but also the overall distance snap is low... I recommend increasing it so 1/2s aren't so close. It's hard to play when the spacing is so cramped tbh.

Insane:

-- A lot of notes are snapped incorrectly which means I can't test to timing thoroughly.
-- Generally I think a 1/2 snap works the majority of the time.

00:15:792 (3) - Move to white tick at 00:15:859
00:16:388 (4) - Move to red tick at 00:16:455
00:18:971 (3) - Move to white tick at 00:19:037
00:19:567 (4) - Move to red tick at 00:19:633
00:20:229 (6) - Add a return.
00:22:712 (3) - Move to red tick at 00:22:777
00:25:244 (3) - Move to white tick at 00:25:309
00:26:218 (5) - Move to 00:26:283
00:26:478 (6) - End at the white tick.
00:29:461 (3,1) - Spacing. I see where the pattern was going but the jump is kinda unexpected.
00:50:274 (3) - Move to white tick 00:50:339
00:50:862 (1) - Red tick 00:50:927
00:51:254 (2) - Red tick 00:51:319
00:52:234 (5) - Move to white tick 00:52:300
00:53:811 (2) - To 00:53:877
00:54:008 (3) - To 00:54:074
00:54:271 (4,1,2,3) - 1/2.
00:55:839 (1) - End on red tick 00:57:580
00:58:742 (1,1) - Huge jump, tone it down a little.
00:58:871 (1) - Move this so it syncs to the bpm change at 00:58:945
01:04:804 (1,1) - 1/2.
01:06:025 (1,2,3,4) - ^ ~ I'll stop pointing out snapping now I think I've given enough examples.
01:11:084 (1,1) - Jump like this is too far.
01:18:788 (1) - Move to 01:18:852
01:30:311 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - The way you've positioned these is awkward to play, especially after the end of the slider.
01:41:288 (1) - The spinner is unrankable, must get at least 2000 in auto.
01:45:769 (1) - ^
01:47:262 (1) - ^
01:48:886 (1) - ^
02:06:901 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - For this whole section the rhythm isn't really evident, and the spacing doesn't help either.
02:15:763 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This stream is really awkward to play.
02:17:778 (4,1) - Spacing, too close.
02:18:267 (2,3) - ^ too far.
02:20:390 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Confusing.

There is a lot to do here, imo you should remap this. Then keep testing, testing, testing and playing until it plays well.

On a side note, this song will be difficult to map. I wouldn't recommend it for a new mapper, personally. Maybe that's just my opinion, but with the bpm changes and weird rhythm it will take a LOT of work to get this right.

Shulin wrote:

Insane:

-- A lot of notes are snapped incorrectly which means I can't test to timing thoroughly.
-- Generally I think a 1/2 snap works the majority of the time.

00:15:792 (3) - Move to white tick at 00:15:859 Fixed
00:16:388 (4) - Move to red tick at 00:16:455 Fixed
00:18:971 (3) - Move to white tick at 00:19:037 Fixed
00:19:567 (4) - Move to red tick at 00:19:633 I think fixed.
00:20:229 (6) - Add a return. Didn't really matter, but done.
00:22:712 (3) - Move to red tick at 00:22:777These have been done except for a couple.
00:25:244 (3) - Move to white tick at 00:25:309 It's fine where it is.
00:26:218 (5) - Move to 00:26:283
00:26:478 (6) - End at the white tick.
00:29:461 (3,1) - Spacing. I see where the pattern was going but the jump is kinda unexpected. I don't really know what I was thinking.
00:50:274 (3) - Move to white tick 00:50:339
00:50:862 (1) - Red tick 00:50:927
00:51:254 (2) - Red tick 00:51:319
00:52:234 (5) - Move to white tick 00:52:300
00:53:811 (2) - To 00:53:877
00:54:008 (3) - To 00:54:074
00:54:271 (4,1,2,3) - 1/2. They were already half spaced. I don't remember fixing them.
00:55:839 (1) - End on red tick 00:57:580
00:58:742 (1,1) - Huge jump, tone it down a little. Reduced by 3 units.
00:58:871 (1) - Move this so it syncs to the bpm change at 00:58:945 Negative. It's fine where it is.
01:04:804 (1,1) - 1/2. Already done.
01:06:025 (1,2,3,4) - ^ ~ I'll stop pointing out snapping now I think I've given enough examples. Done.
01:11:084 (1,1) - Jump like this is too far. Reduced.
01:18:788 (1) - Move to 01:18:852 Fixed.
01:30:311 (2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - The way you've positioned these is awkward to play, especially after the end of the slider. Don't know a fix.
01:41:288 (1) - The spinner is unrankable, must get at least 2000 in auto. Removed all of these.
01:45:769 (1) - ^
01:47:262 (1) - ^
01:48:886 (1) - ^
02:06:901 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - For this whole section the rhythm isn't really evident, and the spacing doesn't help either.Working on it.
02:15:763 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This stream is really awkward to play. I had 1/4th snaps on. I fixed the snapping of the notes and it should be easier to play.
02:17:778 (4,1) - Spacing, too close. Fixed.
02:18:267 (2,3) - ^ too far. Fixed
02:20:390 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Confusing. Fixed.

There is a lot to do here, imo you should remap this. Then keep testing, testing, testing and playing until it plays well.

On a side note, this song will be difficult to map. I wouldn't recommend it for a new mapper, personally. Maybe that's just my opinion, but with the bpm changes and weird rhythm it will take a LOT of work to get this right.

SonicArena1 wrote:

00:27:308: Please fix the timing on the slider one millisecond after this.

Intentional. I don't want any 1/6th notes in my easiest difficulty. Besides I haven't noticed any difference in playability that that note starts 1/6th earlier.

thepianist wrote:

Follow up.

These are just suggestions. ^^ If only the group would sing on time. Oh well.

[Normal]
00:18:441 (2) - Personally I feel this plays better on the red tick. Fixed.
00:25:894 (4) - ^
00:26:478 (6) - Perhaps shorten this to the previous white tick, and have 00:27:327 (1) start on the red tick? Not exactly as you said, but I figured it out and fixed it.
00:27:327 (1,2,3) - Perhaps these can end on the red ticks as well. The small gap between the two sliders sounds a bit weird. As with 00:33:661 (2,3), 00:36:860 (1). Done. I see where you're going. Very clever.
00:33:261 (1) - Probably ends on red tick? Fixed.
00:54:863 (6,7) - Perhaps reposition these so it's more symmetrical? ie

SPOILER

Maybe space them so (yeah, not exactly distance snapped) they are like 00:59:900 (1,2,3,4,5)? They look nicer as such... Fixed.
01:12:295 (2,3,4,5) - Looks a bit ugly. Consider shifting the (1) so they line up with (2) and (4) Done.
01:26:659 (1,2,3,4,5) - Ahh painful to time, I believe. Consider making them only a half beat long? (Then again, this is not really timed).

SPOILER

Made every note except the last one half beated. I feel the last one is longer than the others.
01:33:878 (3) - End on red tick, add a note at 01:35:406 (4)? After some adjustments. Done.
01:42:002 (1) - Again, possibly end on white tick? I don't want to mess with these sliders. It wont matter.
01:48:236 (1) - ^
01:49:600 (2) - Start on red tick, end on red tick? I think it starts where it is. I made it conformal with the rest of the sliders though.
01:52:717 (1) - End on red tick? Done I think.
01:54:470 (1) - End on white? Done
01:55:834 (2) - End on red? Done.
02:00:704 (1,2) - Stack these? Done.
02:17:412 (1,2,3) - Scary rage. Move these to red ticks? Done. Although now the pattern isn't equal.
02:37:307 (5) - Perhaps remove? Stacked it instead.
02:44:589 (1,2) - Consider this?

SPOILER

I don't know what you did there. The ticks seem to be all wrong.
02:46:255 (x) - Expected a note here. Added.
02:52:164 (6) - Remove the repeat, start on the new timing section? Removed slider and made two stacked notes.
02:53:443 (1,2,3,4) - Start on red/white ticks, (3), (4) be half a beat long? I think I fixed that.
02:55:354 (1) - End on red? Done.
02:58:602 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - All notes should be on red/white ticks. Only the first triplets were off timed IMO. This section plays well now.
03:09:148 (1) - More symmetrical, and end on white tick? Done.

[Hard]
I would believe most of the notes can be placed on the white and red notes safely, ane especially the sliders (ie 00:22:192 (2,3,4,5,6,7), 00:26:478 (6)) Those are already on red and white ticks. I'm confused.
00:29:661 (4) - Start on white tick, 1 beat long. I guess fixed.
00:53:678 (1,2,3,4) - Too fast. 1/2 beat per. Add one more at 00:54:468 (x)? Fixed. Don't know how I got that wrong.
00:58:107 (4,5,1,1) - Little hard to read. I think fixed.
00:58:107 (4) - End on white tick? Umm fixed.
00:58:752 (1) - End on red? Fixed.
01:06:026 (1,2,3) - Move to red/white. Reverse 01:06:607 (1,2)'s positions? I'm not making the change
01:12:167 (1,2,3,1,2) - ^ Reverse 01:12:740 (1,2)'s positions? ^
01:26:594 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Are you sure you want to map this section? Personally, I find the break you put in right before is more mappable. I don't know about that.
01:38:886 (1) - One beat long, start on white. [/color]
01:39:665 (2) - Half beat long, start on white, 4 repeats. Done. Really good addition.

SPOILER

01:41:353 (1) - Move to 1:41:613 I don't think that will work.
01:42:002 (1,2) - These, and similar sliders, should end on the red/white ticks. Done.
02:04:145 (2,3) - Weird jump I like it.
02:09:713 (8) - Red Good idea.
02:09:901 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,1,2,3,4,5) - Sounds off Fixed. Good eye.
02:15:763 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Again, this seems hard to map properly (not to say you aren't of course, but...yeah.) It's spot on alright.
02:20:330 (2,3,4,5) - This doubling is...unexpected...to say the least. (Personally I would recommend to take them out.) Taken out.
02:53:061 (1,2) - Not needed I beg to differ
02:57:392 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Seems a bit out of place Altered the pattern.
02:59:251 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Don't see a why these are jumps IDK It's fun?

03:02:368 (1,2,3) - ^
03:09:951 (3,4) - Sounds off It was off.

[Insane]
See similar things from above. I'll try to find what I can.
00:30:127 (2) - ? I took it out, because I felt it hurt the flow.
00:52:496 (1,1) - Strangely large jump Fixed. It's much better now.
00:53:678 (1,2,3,4) - At least space these so they look even... (After all, they probably would start on red/white ticks) Changed the offset to fix the spacing issue.
00:58:752 (1,1) - Whoa jump. Fixed.
01:11:084 (1,1) - Don't see why the jump. It's the pattern. The double combos are the jumps.
01:23:885 (1) - Personally I think these 1/6 additions to the sliders don't sound good. : Sorry. I haven't lowers their volume or added hitsounds yet.
01:43:366 (3) - Weird sounding. Will be taken care of.
02:03:691 (1,2,1,2) - Meh. Probably those last two sliders make it sound a bit strange. plan on muting the hitsounds here.
02:06:901 (1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Make these start/end on red/white ticks. Actually all the nananana parts should probably be even. The spacing that results from this just looks messy as well. Umm not all of sounds belong on those ticks.
02:58:731 (12,13) - Remove? Got to explain why first?
03:10:685 (1) - ^ Replaced those spinners instead. I think they play better now.

This diff just seems a bit overmapped in general.Found problems and fixed them.

Yeah, just my suggestions. ^^ Good luck.
To be honest I'll think you'll need it for this one.

Sakura301 wrote:

[General]
Different tags across your difficulties, please make them the same. Fixed.

[Normal]
Unfinished difficulty (i guess that's why you told me that it's not finished) This is finished. I stated this in the map details. I told you it was a lot more polished than it was since you last saw it.
In general has lot of combo problems i cant tell what the heck are your combos related to.
For the easiest diff, there are way toooo maaaanyyyy spiiineeeersss. I like the spinners.
00:18:375 (2) - New combo because you're swithcing what your mapping to. I think it will be fine. The spacing is lax. I've seen other styles distanced like this.
00:24:725 (2) - ^ I really have no idea how this applies. i'm not changing it.
00:24:725 (2,3,4) - Not sure if it's intentional, but the (4) would look better if it was aligned with (2) intentional. I want it to be located within the 5 slider.
I'll let you notice the rest of your combos yourself, as an example 00:47:202 (1,3) - Switch new combo. Done.
00:54:007 (3) - Hiding below (2) i thought it was an slider. Not sure what you're referring to. Might have already fixed it.
01:11:084 (1,1) - Even if they are stacked... the time between them is too short for a Normal. It's a 1/3rd note. Not like a 1/4th note stack in a normal is any differet.(Actually its worse)
01:12:677 (4,5) - Reverse theese 2 and.. 01:12:104 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make a mirror of 01:06:026 (1,2,3,4,5) Done.
01:26:659 (1,2,3,4,5) - Unintuitive The best I can do is space them 1 unit closer. I'm not changing this.
01:33:878 (3) - wth is with the waypoints on this slider? IDK It looks really strange if the waypoints are symmetrical. It works this way.
02:01:418 (2) - If it's gonna be that close i rather it be stacked Done already.
02:15:763 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3) - Too long of a stream for a Normal. Absolutely no fix to this.
02:18:694 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^
02:25:888 - 02:35:210 not sure what you are mapping to here... sounds odd. Base sounds are almost louder than the main vocals. How can you not hear them?
02:36:548 (1,2,3,4,5) - You effectively mapped to every otherwise unhearable sound on your mp3 nice! wanna see how anyone will pull this off, now seriously >_< Tone deaf . I can hear it and anyone else can hear it without straining. I'm following the hearable base sounds.
02:47:034 (1,2,3,4,5) - Decide what your mapping to, for god sakes, if your gonna map to the La,lalala la la la la, then start when it starts
02:47:034 (1,2) - Theese 2 i dont know what they are following, considering the ^ notes are all in the same combo they should all be following the same thing. Two words. Base sounds. I wasn't mapping the lalalalala
Sigh... too many mapping changes in a short ammount of time. Make up your mind what your mapping to, dont map to every fricken sound, map to something (1 of the vocals, another vocal, or the 3rd vocal, or maybe the 4th vocal, but not to everything at the same time, it makes it not play well and look odd, and unintuitively).
02:55:354 (1) - Awkward Slider. That's a spinner.
02:58:538 (1) - There isnt even a sound here. Base sounds and the base sounds are the only sounds that exist in that moment. Are you hearing no sound from the song at all?
02:58:538 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Not going to say much to it, since its in between combos, but your spacing changes here are kind of odd an unintuitive. Finally I fixed this.
And everything after is just... odd.
03:09:148 (1) - Make it go up again at: 03:10:740 to make some sense?That makes sense, but I think it would look kind of odd


[Hard]
00:18:441 (2) - New combo because your switching vocals (like on normal to avoid a long post about theese i'll let you check the rest of them, shouldnt be that hard, specially coz you mapped it) Skipped. It doesn't matter.
00:29:727 (4) - End this slider at: 00:30:127 Done.
00:53:678 (1,2,3,4) - Sounds awkward, try this (check the timeline, ignore the positions) http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10552 Altered the offset. I hit more 300s the way it is now. Flow > Awkward
00:55:652 (3) - Considering this slider is following the "Katamari Damachy" vocal then the next note should show that it is no longer following it, a.k.a new combo, and also make this slider make a more sense, try inserting a repeat between Katamari and Damachy vocals.WIP It's been changed though.
01:06:607 (1) - No new combo. Done.
01:07:188 (1) - No new combo (theese 2 are because you followed this combo pattern in: 00:59:900 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) Done.
01:12:104 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - ^ Done.
01:22:401 - Odd break. I'll map it.
01:26:594 (1,2,3,4) - Im not a fan of confusing sliders like theese on a Hard. I like them. Reduced the size of all sliders in that section by 1 unit. It makes them easier to hit.
01:33:133 - 3 notes could be around here, can you add them? (they form part of the next combo as well)Added 5 and waiting for more feedback on them.
01:33:133 - Feels Empty
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10553 Seriously NO! remap this section, this plays horrible. Remapped.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10555 This as well... this plays horrible it's hard to tell what you are mapping to. Fixed.
02:26:083 (1,2,3) - How does this make 3 sounds? (same to all the similars in this section, a slider if anything) Dum dee dee
From there until: 02:33:294 i have no idea what you're mapping to, you always find the most hidden, awkward only hearable with 500% volume sound to map to?. They sound fine on my end and my speakers aren't even set that loud.
02:35:337 (1,2,3,4,5) - doesnt sound like "Eeeeeehh" Wasn't a vocal note.
02:47:034 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Sound too early. You can hear that, but you can't hear any of the other notes. o.o
02:49:826 - Feels empty (2 notes)
02:53:061 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Sounds awkward (what the hell are you mapping to here now?)
02:57:392 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Yay mapping to silence?
02:59:251 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Why do you have to map to the least hereable sound instead of the most hearable one X_X
03:02:952 (4) - Sounds weird.
03:04:770 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5) - what the heck is this? X_X WIP
orz i give up... i hope Insane is better.

[Insane]
You should mod your own map, you have lots of spacing errors :< I haven't noticed many really.
00:52:496 (1,1) - 200 ms for a half screen jump? plus this is unintuitive since the player isnt ready for the next 2 notes unless they have played an easier diff before. Reduced.
00:58:752 (1,1) - Another gigantic spacing. Reduced.
01:04:804 (1,1) - Another gigantic spacing. I like this jump though.
01:11:084 (1,1) - Stack theese, the spacing is too big. The duel combo colors are supposed to be indication of a jump.
01:23:498 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Are you trying to create your own rythm? and why so much new combo?. It was an experiment. The new combo is supposed to make the 1/6th note more clearer to see.
01:29:738 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Same as above, are the extra notes after each slider really needed?. I think so. I've grown attached to them.
01:35:343 (1,2) - Another gigantic spacing. This jump is fun. I like it.
02:09:901 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - Try to not switch patterns in mid-stream it will confuse people. I don't see much of a pattern change.
02:15:763 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - "Something that shouldnt be mapped" 1/6 stream is just no, a map got nuked because of stuff like this once. Fixed.
02:17:229 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,4) - Unintuitive Changed the pattern.
02:26:862 (1,2,1,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,...) - Also unintuitive, and doesnt seem to be following anything. ...
02:52:293 (1,1) - More gigantic spacing. Spacing is fine. I can hit it.
02:57:328 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Doesnt seem to be following anything. ...
02:59:251 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - Uneven spacing (timeline wise) WIP I made every third note in each combo proportional to the origin. They don't all have the same shape now.


[Overall]
The 2nd half of each diff needs to be remapped, you dont seem to be following anything, and if anything maybe you decided to follow the most unhearable sounds in the song?

Krisom wrote:

Ok, sorry for the delay <_<

[General]
Will need an easier diff. Eh. Not going to be possible.

[Normal]
00:16:838 - This combo could slide for a normal diff. I'd replace it with a slider, though. :( I feel the sliders move too slow for it to work here.
00:35:261 (3) - Shorten to 00:36:061 Done.
00:52:663 (1) - Why is this a NC? Same goes for 00:58:928 (1), 01:05:059 (1) and 01:11:178 (1) Map trademark.
01:49:665 (2) - Considering the previous pattern, I was expecting a NC here. Done.
Ahhh, I just got too confused at the end, patterns are not consistant within all the song, the switches between the lyrics and the music is too random >_<! Uhh, Why don't you just ignore the lyrics for the easiest diff and map the music. Right, there's almost no music >_<" Eh. I'll mess with the notes near the end. Those are the only true problem notes.

[Hard]
Why don't you use faster sliders? I'll begin testing.
00:23:166 (4) - Uhhh, are you sure about this being here? Good call. Deleted 3 and readjusted 4 to be spaced like the other difficulties.
01:02:123 - Random break is random, and it's not the only one <_< Maybe replace these breaks with long symmetrycal sliders Eh. I am aware that these exist within the maps. I haven't added notes to these locations because I couldn't diversify the combos. Will be changed with the new Slider velocity.
00:58:928 (1) - Same as normal, for all of these hitcircles. Same
02:09:838 - Omg I just died here. It's fitting to the, uuh, lyrics? but un-readeable D: Beginning is fine IMO. Tweaked some of the notes to be more readable.Will belooking into ways to improve the design with the velocity increase.
02:53:443 (1) - Why the NC? Changed.
Again, at the end I could not understand anything >_<Working on it.

[Insane]
Uhhh...


...listen, the main problem with this song is that there's no place for creativity, so all the diffs look waaay to similar :S, and if a new pattern is created, it looks completely out of place >_<! I insist, this is a hard song for the first beatmap, and I suppose I can't stop you from mapping this, but belive me, I see a lot of mapping potential and it just cannot shine with this song. If you want to get a Katamari song ranked, why don't you try another one? Negative. I want to show the potential of this song.

Edit: I changed all the awkward slider streams in insane to single note streams.

I'm sorry I didn't finish the mod post, please don't kudosu (as this is a follow up)

RandomJibberish wrote:

This song is lol. Allllllmmooooost unmappable, but just about okay.So I did the unmappable?

General
what's with the 1/6 snap? This song is definately all 1/2 apart from that one streamy bit in insane. Oh it has it's 1/3rd notes here and there. There are 1/6th placed notes and notes that should be spaced 1/6th apart, but I changed them to 1/3rd spaced notes. i'm not changing the snap until all 1/6th placed notes appear on either 1/3rd or 1/2 ticks. For example 01:11:080 (1,1) -

Normal
00:27:261 (1,2,3) - maybe end each of these a half beat earlier All of this was done. Notes are now 3 beats in length.
00:33:661 (2) - ^
00:35:261 (3) - End a half beat later.
00:39:127 (3) - ^
00:55:832 (1) - End a half beat earlier I like it's length
01:11:080 (1,1) - This is pretty confusing for a normal, I say make it like the others or make it a slider But it's shorter than the others?
02:44:532 (1,2) - extend 1 so it repeats on the white tick and delete 2. And put a beat on 02:45:878 I'm not putting a note on 2:45878. The note is barely hearable


02:47:093 (1,2,3,4) - Move forward on to the red and white ticks Fixed
03:09:152 (4) - End on 03:10:840. Extended it a beat instead in order to flesh out the last sound.

Hard
02:18:694 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - The stacks in the run of notes are pretty confusing Changed.
02:50:061 (3) - This should start on the next white tick Not sure how I missed that
03:02:917 (4) - End on the red tick before Fixed.

Insane
01:19:498 (1) - Seems kinda random, I'd add a couple' beats It's staying. I can't make it any smaller.
01:41:223 (1) - IMO should be from 01:41:028 to 01:41:808. Done.
01:43:366 (3) - Repeat on the white tick Fixed.
02:58:045 (1,2,3,4,1) - Space this evenly It looks even to me.
03:07:540 (3) - put that on the white tick Doesn't belong there if you listen closely. The note is offbeat.


After you've done all this you should probably resnap everything to 1/2 apart from that streamy bit in insane. You might need to do some spacing and timing adjustments manually I'm not doing that.

ouranhshc wrote:

Overall- too much inconsistent spacing

Insane
00:25:267 (3) - make this symmetrical with (1) Done.
00:31:891 (1) - line up with (2) and (1) Done
00:32:283 (2) - ^ Done.
01:00:073 (2) - 1 grid left Fixed.
01:20:975 (3) - extend this slider to the next red tick Eh i;'d rather map the next section with a new combo.
01:42:937 (2) - 1 grid left Mapped to 1.0 here.
01:58:340 (1,1,1) - remove new combos Fixed.
02:03:794 (1,2,1,2) - ugly, it doesn't fit with anything Made the longer sliders the same size as the quicker paced ones, then respaced them to look better.
02:15:791 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2) - what is this ?? the dundundun dundundun dundundun dundundundundun
03:08:569 (1,1) - remove spinners and place notes Done.

Hard
01:05:981 (1,2,3,4,5) - 1 grid right Redesigned and centered.
01:07:529 (7) - 1 gird right Didn't understand. Redesigned these notes too.
01:07:529 (7) - 2 grids right
01:13:243 (6) - 1 grid right
01:13:622 (7) - 1 grid right
01:28:498 (6,7) - huh ???
02:04:184 (2,3) - spacing It's supposed to be a jump. Changed the combo so people will stop telling me this. >.<
02:09:864 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - combos Unified the combos there.
02:17:634 (3,4) - 1 tick earlier The sounds just doesn't belong there.
02:58:173 (3) - delete this note Done.
02:58:302 (3) - move this to red tick Done. Thanks for pointing that out.

Normal- I think you should remap this diff. Don't say why and I don't do it.
00:47:184 (1,1,1) - remove new combos Good catch.
01:01:393 (7) - 1 grid up Fixed
02:06:901 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - too hard for a normal I don't think so. It's easy to hit these notes. It's just not a pattern that is used often.
02:18:694 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ I have to agree, but I'm not changing it unless someone suggests a better pattern for that segment. So far the only tricky thing in it is not losing your tempo while making the back and forth transitions.

184,88,101394,5,2
184,88,101972,6,2,B|261:40|349:101|333:181,1,221.666666666667
311,214,103387,6,2,B|231:257|146:192|167:113,1,221.666666666667

Armin wrote:

dun dun dun dun duuuh

[Normal]

00:32:647 (3) - Even if it's for the symmetry, it can be confusing for new players Reversed the note so the beginning stacks instead. It works.
01:27:359 (3,4,5) - Spacing is not correct, try to fix it, or just make it homogeneous Eh I made all the spacing the same as note 1. The spacing is intended to be greater than the snap.
01:33:467 (1) - I know that was placed for a good pattern, but it's very confusing considering before there was a slider with many repeats. Use the DS also here. I centered the notes around the origin. So the notes start to the left of the reverser end.
01:41:972 (1,1) - Ugly sliders. Please make them better? Redesigned them.

Use this code:

184,88,101394,5,2
184,88,101972,6,2,B|261:40|349:101|333:181,1,221.666666666667
311,214,103387,6,2,B|231:257|146:192|167:113,1,221.666666666667

(Delete 01:41:394 (1,1,1) and then paste the code in your .osu file)
02:04:119 (2) - 1/6 BPM later Tried it. Sounds good. Fixed.
02:47:037 (1,2,3,4,5) - These hitobjects doesn't feel the rythm. Try to change their position Curved them.
03:05:388 (1,2,3,4,5) - As above Curved.
03:08:194 (1,2,1,2) - Remove these two new combo? Nah. I intended to use all four colors for the end.

[Hard]

00:52:470 (1,1) - Spacing please Good catch. Thanks for pointing that out.
00:27:261 (1) - Same issue here, use the spacing, or stack this hitobjects with the slider's end OMG! I can't believe I didn't see the pattern there. Good catch!!!
00:58:537 (2,1,1) - Spacing Eh not much I can do about this. Made 1 and 2 closer together so that they are equidistant from the center and then put the lala notes in the middle pointing up.
01:07:529 (7) - Make this symmetrical with the previous (6) Not sure what you mean?
01:13:622 (7) - As above I think I made it look a little better.
02:13:355 (1) - Use the same spacing of the previous pattern Another good catch. Fixed.
02:21:603 (1) - Very huge jump o_o consider to reduce it maybe?Reduced and remapped the combo after.

[Insane]

00:58:670 (1) - unintuitive jump The fact that all the dual combo notes are jumps. You should know after the previous one at 00:52:470 (1,1) -
01:20:975 (3) - make this slider 1/6 shorter, because it doesn't fit the rythm Eh I don't like how fast the slider moves when it's the corect size.
01:23:483 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - Very fun pattern, I have to complain just this jump, which is a bit excessive, don't you think so? Where would I put the note?

SPOILER

01:28:562 (1) - I suggest you to add a new combo, just to outline the different spacing I've had no problem recognizing it.
01:35:404 (1,2) - Unexpected jump I love this jump

01:40:236 (1) - Add a spinner here, delete the next one, and make it finish here: 01:41:586. Then, add a hitobject here 01:41:972 (x) and stack this with the next 01:42:165 (1) Done.
02:04:184 (2,1) - 1/6 earlier Fixed.
02:04:898 (2) - 1/6 later Fixed.

Believe me, the hitsound volume is ok, you should care about the linearity of some patterns and the DistanceSnap. It shouldn't be okay. I have volume differences everywhere.
Starred.

CrimmiSkye wrote:

Modding, CrimmiStyle!!

I see it's greatly improved since i've last saw it. Let's get this started:

[General]
There are some parts that you could map there are replaced by long breaks imo. get creative and map those parts. Working on it. They have to be timed properly first.

[Normal]
00:20:193 (x) Might i suggest a note here. There is no way I can fit that part into normal mode.
01:43:706 (1) sounds offbeat, place end on red tick. Already done.
02:37:288 (5) doesn't sound good there. It's been replaced according to a timing change.

[Hard]
00:15:917 (3) align. Fixed.
00:26:852 (6,1) i have a doubt about that. I reduced the slider length back to the red tick.

[Insane]
01:21:271 (3) offbeat, fix it. Fine..... fixed.

I've seen some improvement, so star