This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2010年4月28日 at 4:46:47

Artist: Len Kagamine & Kaito
Title: Erase or Zero
Source: CrystalP
Tags: Vocaloid ClistalP bestgt impossiblexu
BPM: 136
Filesize: 17020kb
Play Time: 03:45
Difficulties Available:

1. Ache! (4.97 stars, 618 notes)
2. Break! (2.73 stars, 282 notes)
3. Erase! (4.81 stars, 433 notes)
4. Impossiblexu's Relaxing! (1.23 stars, 180 notes)
5. Zero! (4.25 stars, 365 notes)

Download: Len Kagamine & Kaito - Erase or Zero
Download: Len Kagamine & Kaito - Erase or Zero (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Many thanks to qinche, minaoto, dkuwui, Sharnoth, kuroishi, xxheroxx, H-boy, Chacha17, pieguy1372, Real1, sonnyc, Davidz123, Sakura301, AtemiskKun, LKs, al2e10, orioncomet, Leorda, Breeze, adron zhero, Lissette, Astom, VanMoNky, gdeath, Xero_HT, Derekku Chan, Arusha Shuna, Shulin, Senbon, Kurai_, YGOkid8, Rukarioman, quintitem, Kecco, Takuma, LoweH, Thunderstorm, ignorethis, WyndII, wmfchris, Beuchi-chan, impossiblexu, NatsumeRin, Sallad4ever, Shinxyn, ykcarrot, eee, Eirene, tmokb93, Matma Rex, DJPop, peppy, fartownik, tsukamaete, Starrodkirby86, Cyborg, CDFA, deepsea, Mafiamaster, who helped me with my beatmap.

I hope you will enjoy this song. I love it very much.
Since this is my first beatmap, it may have many problems.
I am just here to wait for your help!
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Remember to full upload. We don't get the audio. Neither do we get the video, it's 8.9 KB we're downloading.

go go W-kun……干巴爹故大赛

[Mod Infos]

Azure: Suggestions.
Blue: You should fix this.

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[General]

• • Offset 5430 (resnap all notes)
  • Sample Volume: 7.5
  • Set a preview point in all difficulties
  • Delete the .osb and the storyboard
  • Spacing is partially wrong. Keep "Distance Snap" active and recheck it
  • There are a lot of hidden circles and sliders: you must make them visible

[Break!]

• • 00:23:518 (10) - New combo
  • 01:43:812 (9) - ^

[Zero!]

• • 00:23:514 (9) - New combo

[Eraser]

• • Tiny circles °°" make the Drain/Overall rate higher but not more tiny circles!

[Qinche!]

• • Tiny circles °°" make the Drain/Overall rate higher but not more tiny circles!
  • Some sliders are unrankable like 00:32:338 (1) or 00:50:427 (1). Do something different.

[General]
Vocaloid is in the source. No need for it to be in tags.

Star!~ just because I'm a Vocaloid fan ;D and great song choice to map.

i dont see u on qq, so here it is... mod the sliders and somewhat others

sorta tried kanbu stack on the second slider, thou u might be sick of it. in that case, do whatever u want with that=3=

lov ya+stared

Download: Len Kagamine & Kaito - Erase or Zero (wanhyrzh) [Qinche!].osu

[Break]

• • Delete the .osb and the storyboard
  • Timing -> Resnap all notes
  • 01:08:077 (x) - Timing -> Set Current Position as Preview Point
  
  • 00:20:871 (5) - End this slider here 00:21:312 (white tick)
  • 00:36:312 (2) - Make this slider more visible
  • 00:40:282 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - Spacing. Keep "Distance snap" active and make the spacing linear. (no jumps for an Easy. Spacing should be linear and intuitive)
  • 01:19:106 (1,2,3) - ^
  • 01:20:429 (1,2,3,4) - ^
  • 01:30:135 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
  • 01:53:077 (2) - Make the end slider more visible
  • 02:01:018 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing
  • 02:23:518 (1,2,3) - ^
  • 02:24:841 (1,2,3,4) - ^
  • 02:44:253 (2) - Make the end-slider more visible || 02:45:135 (3) - Make the start-slider more visible
  • 02:50:429 (6) - Make the end-slider more visible
  • 02:54:841 (1) - Make this circle more visible
  • 03:07:194 (1) - This slider is hidden, make it visible
  • 03:10:724 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing
  • 03:20:871 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
  • 03:23:518 (2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^

[Zero]

• • Delete the .osb and the storyboard
  • Timing -> Resnap all notes
  • 01:08:077 (x) - Timing -> Set Current Position as Preview Point
  
  • 00:43:371 (6) - Make the end-slider more visible
  • 01:08:959 (2,3,4,5) - Make the spacing linear
  • 01:23:297 (6) - Make the end-slider more visible
  • 01:45:577 (7) - Start-slider and end-slider may not coincide (start this slider here 01:45:577 end this slider and add a repetition here 01:46:900)
  • 02:02:782 (4,5) - 1 square to the right
  • 02:13:371 (3,1) - Spacing
  • 02:26:827 (7) - This slider is hidden, make it visible
  • 02:44:253 (3) - ^
  • 02:51:312 (6) - This circle is hidden

[Eraser]

• • Delete the .osb and the storyboard
  • Timing -> Resnap all notes
  • 01:08:077 (x) - Timing -> Set Current Position as Preview Point
  
  • 00:53:956 (1,2,3,4) - Do something different (this is an Hard so, yeah, you can make jumps)
  • 00:59:691 (8,9,10,11,12) - These circles are hidden
  • 01:06:309 (3) - The star-slider is hidden
  • 01:45:794 (10,11,12,13) - These jumps are exaggered
  • 01:51:750 (9,10,11) - ^
  • 01:52:632 (1,2) - ^
  • 02:45:133 (3) - The start is hidden
  • 03:21:309 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - These jumps are exaggered

[Qinche]

• • Delete the .osb and the storyboard
  • Timing -> Resnap all notes
  • 01:08:077 (x) - Timing -> Set Current Position as Preview Point
  
  • 00:07:191 (6) - This slider is hidden, make it visible
  • 00:10:941 (4) - Do something different
  • 00:17:780 (1,2,3,4,1) - These sliders are hidden
  • 00:49:988 (9) - ^
  • 00:55:059 (6,7,8) - Do something different
  • 01:02:118 (6) - Start-slider and end-slider may not coincide
  • 01:04:103 (2) - Do something different
  • 01:05:206 (1) - Make this slider more visible
  • 01:13:368 (7) - Make the end slider visible
  • 01:17:633 (4) - Move this circle here 01:17:672 (blue tick)
  • 01:18:441 (7) - Make the star-slider more visible
  • 01:19:324 (1) - ^
  • 02:00:353 (8,1,2) - Make the spacing linear

I made some screenshot~

Hmm much better

[Break!]

• • 00:08:077 (2) - 1 square down and 1 square to the left (grid level 3)
  • 00:08:518 (3) - 1 square down (grid level 3)
  • 01:32:341 (6,1,2,3,4) - 2 squares down (and fix the spacing here 01:34:106 (4,1) )
  • 01:49:547 (10) - This circle is partially hidden, make it more visible
  • 02:23:077 (4,1) - Spacing (Remember, use "Distance Snap")
  • 02:56:606 (4) - New combo
  • 03:20:871 (1,2) - These circles are hidden

[Zero!]

• • 00:53:959 (1,2,3,4) - Make the spacing linear
  • 01:12:268 (1) - 1 square down and 1 quare to the right (and fix the spacing here 01:12:268 (1,2) )
  • 01:57:488 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Make the spacing linear
  • 02:01:900 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
  • 02:24:621 (3,4) - Spacing

[Eraser!]

• • 00:30:797 (6) - New combo
  • 00:38:959 (9) - ^
  • 00:55:282 (4) - The reverse arrow is hidden; remove them and add a circle
  • 01:28:481 (x) - Add a break
  • 01:46:459 (13,1) - Spacing (this can confuse people)
  • 02:01:900 (11) - New combo
  • 03:13:150 (1) - This slider is hidden, make it visible
  • 03:28:371 (5) - New combo

[Qinche!]

• • 00:21:312 (9) - New combo
  • 00:51:753 (7) - ^
  • 01:02:121 (6) - Do something different
  • 01:24:235 (1) - End this slider here 01:27:929 (white tick)
  • 01:41:827 (9) - New combo
  • 02:40:724 (9) - ^
  • 02:44:032 (8) - ^
  • 03:38:959 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - This part is confusing and spacing is totally wrong; do something else

Screenshots~

MOD2 FIN.
Many thanks to xxheroxx for his great helps!
Add some SKIN.

首先，删除osb文件再full submit
蓝色为建议

Break!
00:05:430(3) - slider 开始感觉换成finish比较好
00:33:665(4) - 开始换成whistle
01:10:282(1) - 向下两个格子,和上一个"2"对齐
01:17:341(2) - 加whistle
01:19:106(1) - 同上
01:37:194(4) - 做成对称的
02:18:224(3) - 加whistle
02:48:224(1) - ^
02:48:665(2) - ^
02:49:106(3) - ^
02:49:547(4) - 改成finish

zero!
00:05:429(3) - 改为finish
01:45:577(7) - 改成对称的
02:31:900(1) - 认为这个note可以删掉,把前面的spinner结束在这里
03:03:444(1) - 一直到5的spacing,看着有问题...

Eraser!
00:05:429(4) - slider 开始换成finish
01:04:988(3) - 这个放置的略有些hidden
01:31:018(5) - new combo
01:50:871(5) - ^
02:17:562(3) - 向上一个格子
02:28:371(1) - spinner 停在这里02:32:782
02:47:121(8) - new combo
03:18:224(5) - ^
03:20:209(5) - ^
03:23:518(10) - ^

qinche!
00:04:988(2) - 删除finish
00:05:429(3) - 加finish
00:09:325(2) - 向左到红线?结束在00:10:503
00:53:518(x) - 加一个note,用finish hitsound
02:10:062(4) - spacing改下
02:18:444(13) - slider删除,改成一个note
02:18:665(x) - 加slider结束在02:19:106,在end加入finish

STAR~

General
Tags: Remove the commas in the tags and also, remove Katio Len and Kagamine in the tags
Source: Remove Vocaloids and add Vocaloid in the tags
Delete .osb file and fully submit.

Do this on all the difficulties:
01:39:592 - These inherited timing sections are useless. remove them
02:33:554 - useless timing sections again
02:11:165 - why is there a double inherited section here

Break!

00:26:606 (1) - this beat is not perfectly placed beneath the previous slider's end point. Turn off grid snap and set distance snap multiplier to 0.0x and resnap that beat
00:29:253 (1) - move one grid left
00:29:694 (2) - move two grids left and one up
00:30:135 (3) - move one grid left and one up and resnap the other beats
00:40:282 (1,2,3) - make this pattern a straight line, looks better imo
00:42:488 (6) - new combo?
00:42:488 (6) - ^
00:42:488 (6) - a finish may sound better here
01:23:518 (5) - move one grid up and one grid left
01:34:106 (4) - why don't you just use a bezier type of slider here? it would look nicer, imo
01:37:194 (4) - ^
01:42:047 (5) - move one grid up
01:41:165 (3,4,5,6) - fix the spacing of this by moving 01:41:606 (4) one grid to the left, 01:42:047 (5) move this up, left, up , left. Resnap the next beats
This is what it looks like . Screenshot : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5765
01:56:606 (8) - move one grid to the left and resnap the other beats
01:59:253 (5,1) - don't overlap these ones
02:12:488 - maybe a kiai time here would be nice
03:03:665 (1,2,3,4) - again, use bezier sliders . And make those slider's endpoints overlap w/ each other. It would look better.
03:29:253 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - i personally don't like this star pattern ;_;

Zero!
00:30:577 (4) - use bezier type of slider and make this a perfect C please ;_;
01:34:106 (4) - ^
01:37:194 (4) - ^
01:45:577 (7) - ^
01:51:312 (4) - ^
00:47:782 (4) - ^
01:16:900 (6) - move one grid to the left
02:05:209 (4) - move one grid up

Eraser!
00:16:680 (1,1) - don't overlap these two sliders please
00:43:371 (1,2,3) - these sliders are not perfectly placed beneath the previous slider's end point. fix please
00:45:135 (5) - ^
Nothing much here, but pure nazi's i didn't point out

Qinche! - 0.5 or 1 slider tick rate will be better with this diff
00:16:018 (1,2,3,4) - these sliders are not perfectly placed beneath the previous slider's end point. Turn off grid snap and set distance snap multiplier to 0.0x and resnap those sliders.
00:17:782 (1,2,3,4) - ^
00:40:282 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - combo's too long (same as the other ones with the same pattern)
00:48:224 (2) - weird slider
00:57:930 (4) - move two grids right
00:57:930 (4) - make this slider a perfect C, please ;_;
01:10:724 (1) - ^
01:19:327 (1,2,3) - these sliders are not perfectly placed beneath the previous slider's end point. Turn off grid snap and set distance snap multiplier to 0.0x and resnap those sliders.
02:04:547 (1,2,3) - spacing?
02:58:150 (1,2) - ^
Just a suggestion: Make the volume lower and lower when the song is nearing the end? (especially in this diff). Would sound better,imo.

Whew. Here you go :3

EDIT: Please add qinche to the tags in all difficulties since he made a difficulty for you

MOD3 & MOD4 fin.

Many thanks to H-boy and Chacha17!

And add comboburst img.

General:

-Try to reduce the filesize so it's less than 20 KB
-Perhaps add a picture of Len and Kaito to sectionfail.png?
-Add "qinche" to tags

Break:

-As it is, this difficulty is only 1/4 beats/sliders. Perhaps you could add some 1/2 beats or 1/2 sliders to add variety?

00:46:018 (9) - Align with (8)?
01:37:194 (4) - This goes a bit too high
01:55:282 (5,6) - Perhaps change it so that (6) is under the start of (4)?
02:09:841 (3) - Align with (1)
03:23:518 (2) - Align with (1)?

Zero:

00:06:312 (5) - Align with (3)
00:09:841 (6) - Align with (4) and move (7) up two level 3 grid squares (if you do this, move 00:10:724 (1) to be in the same position as (6) and align 00:11:165 (2) with 00:10:724 (1))
01:06:312 (3,4) - This is somewhat confusing
01:12:268 (1) - This being stacked kept making me think it was 1/2 earlier. Perhaps change it?
01:18:003 (3) - Make it end a 1/2 beat earlier and put the finish on the end
01:34:106 (4) - Move the fourth slider point down one tick (it makes it more symmetrical )
01:37:194 (4) - Move the fourth slider point up one tick
01:51:312 (4) - Same as 01:34:106 (4)
02:09:841 (5,6) - Same as 01:06:312 (3,4)

Eraser:

Heh, nice jumps.

03:13:150 (1) - Hidden

Qinche!:

-The max score is 13 million but it should be fine considering how hard this diff is.

00:46:459 (1) - Make the end of this aligned with the first corner?
01:37:415 (6) - Make the end of this aligned with the start?
02:41:385 (4) - This slider may raise a flag; I can tell which way it goes just fine but you may need to storyboard an arrow or something to tell the player which way to go
02:51:202 (2,3) - Spacing
03:21:974 (2,3,4) - Make these mirrored copies of (1)

Nice work! *star*

Mod5 fin.
Thank you pieguy1372 !
Add some img and reduce the filesize.

~[Break!]~

Source?
I would without a doubt change the hitsounds to normal, and not soft.
00:14:263(6): Remove either clap or finish hitsounds (I think clap)
00:16:900(2): Add a finish.
00:53:959(2,3,4,5,6): Consider remapping this part, this is an easy, right?
01:08:077(Timing): What an odd place to start kiai, could you find another place please? Maybe here: 01:09:400?
01:30:135(1,2,3,4,5,6): Consider remapping this part, this is an easy, right?
02:11:606(Timing): Start kiai here.
03:17:341(Timing): Kiai starts here again.


~[Zero!]~

00:19:106(x): This part right here might be confusing, consider changing it.
01:58:591(6,7): Delete these two notes.
02:11:606(Timing): Add kiai.
02:27:488(x): Spinner starts here.


I'm not going to mod [Eraser!] Due to too many mistakes in AImod. To get the editor to show AImod hold "CRTL + ALT + A".

Don't use 1/8 Beat snap. And the same as above. Otherwise, pretty good map. Come back to me when you fixed all this.

Source:Vocaloid
Make Circle a bit larger?
[break!]
I got a SS.
[Zero!]
it's Ok.
[Eraser!]
um...some jumps seems not very good.
[Ache!]
01:17:782 (5) - hard to see.
03:33:665 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - hard to beat.
star.

Hi again :3

soulfear wrote:

Source:Vocaloid

No way. Most vocaloid maps here only include the word vocaloid in the tags, and not in the source.

General
Len Kagamine & Kaito - Erase or Zero (wanhyrzh).osb - Kill that and fully submit map
1 second audio lead in would be nice
And uh, shouldn't the Artist be Rin Kagamine & KAITO?

Break!
00:26:606 (1) - this beat is not perfectly placed beneath the previous slider's end point. Turn off grid snap and set distance snap multiplier to 0.0x and resnap that beat
01:23:518 (5) - finish at the slider's end point.
03:38:959 (1) - remove clap

Zero!
00:20:871 (4) - this slider is not perfectly placed beneath the previous slider's end point. Turn off grid snap and set distance snap multiplier to 0.0x and resnap that slider
00:59:253 (3) - move one grid to the left
03:38:959 (1) - remove clap
Hey! the slider's are cuter now. I'm glad you made them like C's. <3

Eraser!
00:46:459 (1,2,3,4) - Please make these sliders parallel to each other.
03:40:724 (1) - remove this beat and extend this spinner 03:38:959 (1) to 03:40:724.

Ache!
00:17:341 (4) - this slider is not perfectly placed beneath the previous slider's end point. Turn off grid snap and set distance snap multiplier to 0.0x and resnap that slider
00:18:224 (2) - ^
00:18:665 (3) - ^
00:19:106 (4) - ^
03:12:929 (2) - ^
03:13:371 (3) - ^
03:13:812 (4) - ^
03:14:253 (5) - ^
03:14:694 (6) - ^
03:15:135 (7) - ^
03:15:577 (8) - ^

Hey! it's much better now! <3

Chacha17 wrote:

Hi again :3

soulfear wrote:

Source:Vocaloid

No way. Most vocaloid maps here only include the word vocaloid in the tags, and not in the source.

General
Len Kagamine & Kaito - Erase or Zero (wanhyrzh).osb - Kill that and fully submit map
1 second audio lead in would be nice
And uh, shouldn't the Artist be Rin Kagamine & KAITO?

Break!
00:26:606 (1) - this beat is not perfectly placed beneath the previous slider's end point. Turn off grid snap and set distance snap multiplier to 0.0x and resnap that beat
01:23:518 (5) - finish at the slider's end point.
03:38:959 (1) - remove clap

Zero!
00:20:871 (4) - this slider is not perfectly placed beneath the previous slider's end point. Turn off grid snap and set distance snap multiplier to 0.0x and resnap that slider
00:59:253 (3) - move one grid to the left
03:38:959 (1) - remove clap
Hey! the slider's are cuter now. I'm glad you made them like C's. <3

Eraser!
00:46:459 (1,2,3,4) - Please make these sliders parallel to each other.
03:40:724 (1) - remove this beat and extend this spinner 03:38:959 (1) to 03:40:724.

Ache!
00:17:341 (4) - this slider is not perfectly placed beneath the previous slider's end point. Turn off grid snap and set distance snap multiplier to 0.0x and resnap that slider
00:18:224 (2) - ^
00:18:665 (3) - ^
00:19:106 (4) - ^
03:12:929 (2) - ^
03:13:371 (3) - ^
03:13:812 (4) - ^
03:14:253 (5) - ^
03:14:694 (6) - ^
03:15:135 (7) - ^
03:15:577 (8) - ^

Hey! it's much better now! <3

alright,they have Source like Hatsune Miku or something else so they put Vocaloid in tags,what do you want put in Source for this map?

soulfear wrote:

alright,they have Source like Hatsune Miku or something else so they put Vocaloid in tags,what do you want put in Source for this map?

Why would they put Hatsune Miku in the source if It's already the artist?

Real1 slowpoke modding, go!

General

1. Tags are wrong. The only tag available is "Janpanese" which is misspelled tag of the language that is not even needed!

[Break!]

1. 00:38:077 (5) - Add clap here?
2. 00:54:841 (4) - Make this a new combo.
3. 03:24:841 (3) - New combo.

[Zero!]

1. 00:14:253 (7) - New combo.
2. 00:14:694 (1) - Remove new combo.
3. 00:59:694 (4) - This note looks bad there.
4. 01:23:297 (6) - Instead of this long boring slider, make a spinner?
5. 02:58:812 (1) - Slider feels a bit too long. Especially if it's mapped to the lyrics.

[Eraser]

1. 01:30:135 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - Hard too read and bad spacing.
2. 02:28:371 (1) - Maybe end this spinner on 02:31:900 ?

[Ache!]

1. 01:10:724 (1) - Remove new combo.
2. 01:12:268 (9) - (if you did the above) Make new combo.
3. 02:15:797 (4) - New combo.
4. 03:44:253 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Maybe shorten this combo? Goes out of the song. :S

This map needs some work but is in the right direction. Therefopre, I will give you a star!