This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, February 19, 2010 at 11:21:01 AM

Artist: Arashi
Title: Kaze no Mukou e
Source: Arashi All The Best 1999-2009
Tags: discography jpop
BPM: 105
Filesize: 18953kb
Play Time: 01:56
Difficulties Available:

1. Easy (2.17 stars, 117 notes)
2. Hard (4.3 stars, 339 notes)
3. Insane (4.89 stars, 528 notes)

Download: Arashi - Kaze no Mukou e
Download: Arashi - Kaze no Mukou e (no video)
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One of my favorite song
Please give your comments

~~Change Log~~

-Fixed from bmin11's mod
-Fixed from Moon Fragrance's mod
-Fixed from Shulin's mod
-Fixed from Breeze's mod
-Fixed from Kytoxid's mod
-Fixed from Sushi971's mod
-Add Easy difficulty
-Fixed from Shulin's 2nd mod
-Fixed from YGOkid8's mod
-Fixed from MarioBros777's mod
-Fixed from Leorda's mod
-Fixed from Zekira's mod
-Fixed from DJPop's mod
-Fixed from sonnyc's mod
-Fixed from CDFA's mod
-Fixed from Shinxyn's mod
-Minor change from kino77's mod
-Combo fixed from Lokamp's mod
-Combo fixed from blissfulyoshi's mod
-Fixed timing from happy30's mod
-Fixed minor error (thanks Starrodkirby86 )
-Fixed timing 100% SURE

[Hard]
00:43:451 (2) - Finish
00:58:165 (2) - Spacing?
01:00:451 (2) - ^
02:58:023 (4) - ^

[Normal]
01:24:880 (1) - spacing (not sure.....)

[Normal] feels more like Hard to me. Change [Hard] into [Insane], [Normal] into [Hard]?

bmin11 wrote:

[Hard]
00:43:451 (2) - Finish
00:58:165 (2) - Spacing?
01:00:451 (2) - ^
02:58:023 (4) - ^

[Normal]
01:24:880 (1) - spacing (not sure.....)

[Normal] feels more like Hard to me. Change [Hard] into [Insane], [Normal] into [Hard]?

Fixed it thanks for your mod Kudosu for you

[General]
Set a Preview Point at 00:48:594

[Normal]
00:48:308 - turn off the kiai, kiai must be used no more once during 1 minute.
01:08:165 (5,6,7) - align

[Hard]
00:48:308 - turn off the kiai, kiai must be used no more once during 1 minute.
01:13:451 (2,3,4) - align with end of slider
01:18:737 (6,7,8) - make a prettier triangle

good.

MoonFragrance wrote:

[General]
Set a Preview Point at 00:48:594--Fixed

[Normal]
00:48:308 - turn off the kiai, kiai must be used no more once during 1 minute.--Fixed
01:08:165 (5,6,7) - align--Fixed

[Hard]
00:48:308 - turn off the kiai, kiai must be used no more once during 1 minute.--Fixed
01:13:451 (2,3,4) - align with end of slider--Fixed
01:18:737 (6,7,8) - make a prettier triangle
good.

Thanks for your help here is your kudosu

General:

-- You need an easier difficulty.
-- Remove "Arashi" from tags.
-- Video offset seems a little off but its hard to tell...
-- Remove the silver combo color is clashes with the video.
-- I didn't test your timing thoroughly but it seems ok.

Normal:

-- Preview Point?

00:49:594 (4) - Spacing is too far.
01:04:451 (3) - Spacing, too far.
01:39:880 (5) - Too close.
01:42:165 (10) - Too close
01:46:451 (6) - Too far.
03:35:451 (1,2,3,4) - Jumps in normal.

Spacing changes and jumps are okay, but since this is your easiest difficulty I think they should be fixed, if you make an Easy then thee aren't really a problem.

Insane:

-- Reduce OD by 1?

01:04:880 (7,8,9,10) - Stack?
02:22:451 (5) - Too far.
02:23:308 (x) - Note?
02:52:023 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Reduce the spacing between these.
02:54:308 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
03:07:451 (7,8) - Stack?

The spacing is hard to follow at times, you might want to consider using AIMod as a reference. Also consider reducing the spacing on your streams to make them easier to hit.

Well there's a few other things I could probably pick up on but this will do for now, make sure to add an Easy

~ Star.

Shulin wrote:

General:

-- You need an easier difficulty.
-- Remove "Arashi" from tags.
-- Video offset seems a little off but its hard to tell...
-- Remove the silver combo color is clashes with the video.
-- I didn't test your timing thoroughly but it seems ok.

Normal:

-- Preview Point?

00:49:594 (4) - Spacing is too far.
01:04:451 (3) - Spacing, too far.
01:39:880 (5) - Too close.
01:42:165 (10) - Too close
01:46:451 (6) - Too far.
03:35:451 (1,2,3,4) - Jumps in normal.

Spacing changes and jumps are okay, but since this is your easiest difficulty I think they should be fixed, if you make an Easy then thee aren't really a problem.

Insane:

-- Reduce OD by 1?

01:04:880 (7,8,9,10) - Stack?
02:22:451 (5) - Too far.
02:23:308 (x) - Note?
02:52:023 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Reduce the spacing between these.
02:54:308 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
03:07:451 (7,8) - Stack?

The spacing is hard to follow at times, you might want to consider using AIMod as a reference. Also consider reducing the spacing on your streams to make them easier to hit.

Well there's a few other things I could probably pick up on but this will do for now, make sure to add an Easy

~ Star.

All Fixed, if there is more feel free to mod it and I'll consider making the easier diff
Anyway thanks for your mod and here kudosu for you

[General]

1. osb.file is not used, please delete it and full submit
2. as Shulin said, you need an easier diff.

[Normal+]

1. I feel DS is a bit high for a normal diff. but it's OK
2. 01:54:022 (3) - slider ends here sounds better
3. 02:22:022 (7) - why it ends at blue tick, sounds strange, you could try end it at 02:22:308 white tick
4. 03:09:737 (6) - slide ends here sounds better

[Insane]

1. 00:53:737 (5) - new combo here, 'cause jump is over
2. 01:04:879 (7) - jump, new cmbo
3. 01:10:451 (1) -horrible spacing, unexpected jump
4. 01:20:300 (1) - ^
5. 01:43:165 (2) - ^

nice map
star

At the risk of sounding like a parrot, this needs an easier diff to be ranked.

[Normal+]

Eh, there was a bit of a scuffle over having +'s in difficulty names earlier. You could probably just rename this to Hard and get away with it.

00:28:308 (2) - Shorten this slider by 1/4?
01:08:165 (5,6) - Change these 2 notes into a slider?
02:07:165 (4) - A grid down makes it look a lot neater.
02:22:023 (7) - An awkward place to end the slider; end it 1/4 earlier?

I thought the middle section, where combos started going into 2-digits, could have just been broken into 2 combos each.

[Insane]

I'm a bit concerned about some of the spacing/jumps on this difficulty. While I didn't explicity point them out, quite a few felt counterintuitive.

02:54:308 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This squiggly is spaced different.

Nice map though, star~

All Fixed thanks
Here is your kudosu
I'm still working on the normal diff, feel free to check it again when it's done

Timing :
Is fine, but just to respect the "stanza", put offset to 21165 (just a suggestion, you don't have to)

[Normal+]
01:22:308 (6,8) - align?

HARD AND NORMAL+ are sensibly the same. make the diffs DIFFERENT. they have the same difficulty, and most of the notes are the same. do something about it.

[Insane]
There are some spacing problems. like here : 00:56:308 (7,8,9) -
01:43:165 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - make this pattern look nicer?
01:49:880 (6,9,10) - align
03:12:594 (8) - spacing

if the last diff isn't finished, it may be WIP... no?

I think it's correct.
The song is fun =D

Sushi971 wrote:

Timing :
Is fine, but just to respect the "stanza", put offset to 21165 (just a suggestion, you don't have to)

[Normal+]
01:22:308 (6,8) - align?

HARD AND NORMAL+ are sensibly the same. make the diffs DIFFERENT. they have the same difficulty, and most of the notes are the same. do something about it.

[Insane]
There are some spacing problems. like here : 00:56:308 (7,8,9) -
01:43:165 (2,3,4,1,2,3) - make this pattern look nicer?
01:49:880 (6,9,10) - align
03:12:594 (8) - spacing

if the last diff isn't finished, it may be WIP... no?

I think it's correct.
The song is fun =D

Yup Arashi's songs are fun
Change the Normal+ to Hard and add Easy difficulty
All Fixed
Thanks

Yay recheck

General:

-- Light blue combo color clashes with the video to, maybe change that to a different color?
-- End the kiai at the end of each difficulty.

Easy:

-- Make sure to change the offset to the same as Insane.
-- End the kiai at the end of the song.

00:44:594 (2) - Down one square.
00:45:737 (3) - Up one square.

Good

Hard:

-- Change the offset to the same as the other difficulties.

00:50:308 (5) - Minor spacing error.
01:08:880 (6) - ^
01:30:737 (4) - ^
01:41:165 (7) - Right one square.

Make sure to change the offset for this difficulty.

Insane:

-- Fix the 4 unsnapped objects (resnap)

-- The main thing I noticed in this difficulty is that the spacing changes rapidly, for example at the start of the song you use x1.3 distance snap and x1.6 for jumps. Then at about 00:46:307 you switch to x2 for jumps and the spacing becomes about x1.6 mixed with x1.3 again. This is OK but imo the rapid changes in distance snap doesn't really suit the song and are confusing to follow (you might want more opinions on this though).

01:16:022 (1,2,3,4) - Stack all of this.
01:44:879 (4,5,6,7) - ^
-- End the kiai at the end of the song.

I could pick on some nazi issues but I think the spacing is the most important thing to concentrate on, some consistency would work well imo. Otherwise this difficulty is fine.

That's all, perhaps get some more mods on insane, the other difficulties are pretty good

All fixed. Thanks for the recheck Shulin

I think I'll still go with those jump but only on the beginning of the first chorus and the rap part, but if there are another modder opinion then maybe I'll change it.

Hi. Only problem I have is your combos

Easy
00:53:736 (5) - New Combo.
00:56:593 (1) - No New Combo.
00:57:736 (3) - New Combo.
01:04:593 (6) - ^

Hard
01:08:879 (6) - New Combo.
01:13:736 (8) - ^

If you get the pattern, no need for me to point out the rest.

Insane
For an Insane, you've got too much stacking IMO. Stacking generally makes it easier (unless... never mind). Reduce some of the stacking, esp. the ones like 01:29:736 (1 ~ 5).

Otherwise, nice map. Star ~ ☆

YGOkid8 wrote:

Hi. Only problem I have is your combos

Easy
00:53:736 (5) - New Combo.
00:56:593 (1) - No New Combo.
00:57:736 (3) - New Combo.
01:04:593 (6) - ^

Hard
01:08:879 (6) - New Combo.
01:13:736 (8) - ^

If you get the pattern, no need for me to point out the rest.

Insane
For an Insane, you've got too much stacking IMO. Stacking generally makes it easier (unless... never mind). Reduce some of the stacking, esp. the ones like 01:29:736 (1 ~ 5).

All fixed
Also reduce some stacking, I think this is good
Thanks for the mod

Woah!

[Easy]
Well... I guess this is a fairly standard Easy, nothing FASCINATING about it. But it's good, nothing majorly wrong too.

[Hard]
02:24:30 - Fairly long break, consider mapping part of this.
02:46:16 (2,3,4) - Align them with the previous notes.
03:28:59 - End Kiai Time here and restart it on the last combo?

And I believe we have some unsnapped notes here.
03:29:16 -
03:31:36 -
03:33:16 -
03:34:16 -

Check them out.

[Insane]
I don't like the spacing in this map... It's not constant.

And the same mods for Hard regarding mapping the long break and the kiai time.

PM me again to get your star.

MarioBros777 wrote:

Woah!

[Easy]
Well... I guess this is a fairly standard Easy, nothing FASCINATING about it. But it's good, nothing majorly wrong too. Thanks
[Hard]
02:24:30 - Fairly long break, consider mapping part of this.I think the break is ok other modder didn't say anything about it either, but I'll consider if there is another modder opinion
02:46:16 (2,3,4) - Align them with the previous notes.Fixed
03:28:59 - End Kiai Time here and restart it on the last combo?Done

And I believe we have some unsnapped notes here.
03:29:16 -
03:31:36 -
03:33:16 -
03:34:16 -

Check them out.Fixed

[Insane]
I don't like the spacing in this map... It's not constant.Fixed

All Fixed

This map was in my other computer and I'm not redownloading for bandwidth reasons.

I trust you.

Halo Sallad4ever

[Easy]
You have to map this diff to the end
01:21:165 (1,2) - Allign with 5?
01:30:879 (2) - Move 1 grid right

[Hard]
Please recheck this map, are U following the vocal or rhythm?
02:24:307 (B) - You have to map this break

[Insane]
Please recheck this map, are U following the vocal or rhythm?
02:24:307 (B) - You have to map this break

Barely song!
STAR

Leorda wrote:

Halo Sallad4ever

[Easy]
You have to map this diff to the endI made this for beginner player so I didn't fully map it, but if other modder say I should fully map it, maybe I will
01:21:165 (1,2) - Allign with 5?Fixed
01:30:879 (2) - Move 1 grid rightFixed

[Hard]
Please recheck this map, are U following the vocal or rhythm?vocal
02:24:307 (B) - You have to map this break Done

[Insane]
Please recheck this map, are U following the vocal or rhythm?vocal
02:24:307 (B) - You have to map this break Done

Barely song!
STAR

Thanks for the mod

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Zekira wrote:

Timing: ...Sushi so pro. *autostar*

[Easy]
This definitely qualifies for a Normal IMO. R-Really
00:45:737 (3,1) - Break in between these beats pl0x Done
01:29:737 (1) - put the kiai here instead Done

[Hard]
...it contains anti-Zekira patterns Um.. what is anti-zekira patterns?

[Insane]
01:04:165 (3) - uneven stack that I recommend changing. Fixed
01:23:880 (7) - symmetry Fixed
03:01:165 (3) - New Combo Fixed

Thank you for your cooperation

~Easy~
Fine.

~Hard~
00:39:164 (7) - new combo
02:13:165 (1) - move left 1 grid (Lv3)
02:14:594 (6) - move right 1 grid (Lv3)
02:14:880 (7) - move right 2 grids (Lv3)
02:22:880 (1,2) - move right 1 grid (Lv3)
02:24:023 (5) - move left 1 grid (Lv3)

~Insane~
00:36:165 (1) - remove new combo
00:40:737 (1) - ^
00:59:451 (1) - ^
01:51:165 (1) - start on blue tick
01:55:737 (1) - ^


+Star

Hello~~

[General]

• I think you should Resnap all notes on every diff.

[Easy]

• 00:24:593 (4) None
  01:09:736 (4) ^
  01:29:450 (8) Delete?
  01:40:022 (2) None

[Hard]

• 00:30:736 (8) New combo
  01:02:593 (8) Delete
  01:23:879 (5) Clap at end?
  01:41:164 (2) None
  *01:46:879* Insert break
  02:52:022(3) Reduce 1 reverse
  02:54:307 (2) ^

[Insane]

• 00:31:879 (10) Whistle
  00:45:164 (7) New combo

Good

Thanks DJPop


Thanks sonnyc

First, I like this beatmap :3.

Easy:
00:56:593 - Make this a clap instead of a finish.
01:28:018 (4) - Make this a clap
01:28:593 (5) - Make this a finish
01:28:879 - Make this a clap
01:29:164 - ^
01:49:450 (3,4)- Make both of these claps
01:54:022 (3,4)- ^
01:51:736 - Make each repeat here a clap sound (But not the beginning and end of the slider.)
Keep mapping until where you end both other diffs.

Hard:
03:31:164 - Not snapped D:

Insane:
In the membrane.
Also it's good, nothing wrong .

Starred <3.

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

~ mm

Easy- fair enough, but... I kinda want a spinner for Easy, just so the points aren't all the same

Hard- xD this was renamed from Normal, Normal+ then Hard, right? The spacing is kinda high for Normal, it is kinda like Normal+, but... preferably Hard... so add 2 to overall diff..? or just 1 if you'd like
00:40:308 (5) - mmm the rest of the combo's hitsound is strong, add whistle/finish to end of this slider to match?
01:41:165 (2) - clap? (to sound like combo before this?)
02:06:308 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the claps... if you're trying to match the music's claps, shift the claps to the next white ticks (though 6's slider is over that), also, the pace changes at the next combo (to match the music)
02:06:308 (1) - left a tick~? (spreads 1,2,3,4,5 out better)
02:24:023 (5) - ^ (or just... move this whole combo around a bit)
02:42:880 (1) - @_@ there are sliders that go for 5 repeats like this and then 4 repeats like 02:45:165 (1).. even though they sound the same in the vocal/music... kinda misleading in some parts, just a note
Hmm the combos could be organized better, but they're fine

Insane- mmm fair
00:50:308 - don't mix hitsounds please
00:56:594 (8) - ^
01:46:879 (1) - kinda hard to see when following the (sorta) heavy spacing
02:06:308 (1) to 02:17:737 (5) - the claps -could- match the music's clap, but then that would mean shifting all the claps u have now to the next white ticks.... just saying
03:21:737 (1) - o-o no hitsounds here?
The combo's could also be a bit more organized here, but its fine..

Hitsounds... are okayish

Thanks for the hitsound mod

Sorry my late...

Star

[General]

Set background colour to white.

[Easy]

It's fine, but feels boring, like a metronome at times, with all the notes landing on 1/1. Change them up a bit, or if you're lazy, keep it in mind for your next map.

[Hard]

01:47:022 - Remove this very short break. (generally I remove breaks which are so short that warning arrows appear before the break starts)

[Insane]

Feels a bit too easy for a 11m max score, but it's not unrankable, I guess.

It's much nicer than the last time I modded it; poke me again once you finish with this mod for a pubble.

Sorry my late...

Star

It's fine don't worry
Thanks for the star Tanmak

Kytoxid wrote:

[General]

Set background colour to white. Done

[Easy]

It's fine, but feels boring, like a metronome at times, with all the notes landing on 1/1. Change them up a bit, or if you're lazy, keep it in mind for your next map. I'm quite satisfied with this so, yes I guess I'll keep it for my next map

[Hard]

01:47:022 - Remove this very short break. (generally I remove breaks which are so short that warning arrows appear before the break starts) Done

[Insane]

Feels a bit too easy for a 11m max score, but it's not unrankable, I guess. I have to learn more about this difficulties criteria

It's much nicer than the last time I modded it; poke me again once you finish with this mod for a pubble.

Thanks again Kytoxid

Good song and map~
Some tiny things~lol

[Easy]
Fine~

[Hard]
01:12:737 (6) - Move 1 grid up?
03:15:451 (2,3,4,5) - Finish sounds odd to me

[Insane]
00:24:737 (8) - Move 1 grid down?
00:53:451 (4) - Move 1 grid left?

STARSTAR~

Hello kino77

kino77 wrote:

[Easy]
Fine~ Thanks

[Hard]
01:12:737 (6) - Move 1 grid up? Fixed
03:15:451 (2,3,4,5) - Finish sounds odd to me sounds good to me

[Insane]
00:24:737 (8) - Move 1 grid down? It's good the way it is
00:53:451 (4) - Move 1 grid left? Fixed

Even small things can help me
Thanks

Easy
01:20:593 (5,1) - new combo on 5th, remove next new combo
01:33:165 (4) - add a whistle or a clap on this slider's start

Hard
[General] Except for some strange cases of wrong spacing, there are some strange mini-sliders, like on 00:55:737 (4)
or on 01:03:737 (1) ... try to place them better!
00:30:023 (6) - new combo

Insane
00:56:594 (8) - new combo

Spacing is still improvable on Hard and Insane modes but, as it is now, this map is a good result for a 1st try of mapping.
Have your star!

Popping the p-bubble because the beats sound off. Look at the next post for details.

Easy:
Combo mod:
00:26:308 (1) - to follow your pattern of having 2 line of lyrics per combo, remove new combo (this is optional since this will make the combo rather long)
01:32:594 (3) - new combo to be consistent with 00:50:879 (1)
01:41:165 (4,1) - remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 4 to be consistent with 00:50:879 (1)

Hard:
Combo mod:
00:30:023 (6) - new combo for the next line of lyrics
00:50:880 (6) - new combo to be consistent with 01:00:022 (1)
00:52:594 (1) - Throughout the song you sometimes add a new combo to the "woooh." This felt weird to me because you are not consistent with this (Ex: 01:01:737 (5)). Also, 00:50:308 (5) and places similar to it do not have their own combo. I would like to know your reasoning for this.
03:07:451 (1,3) - remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 3 to include the "woooh" in your combo and follow your lyrical pattern

Insane:
Normal mod:
01:46:879 (1) - since the repeat to the slider is barely visible after the 300 from the previous slider, may you pleasemake the repeat easier to see

Combo mod:
01:04:880 (1) - remove new combo to be consistent with 00:56:164 (6)
01:12:737 (1,2) - remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 2 to follow the lyrics
01:31:451 (1,3) - remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 3 to be consistent with 00:50:308 (5)
01:40:594 (1,2) - remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 2 to be consistent with 00:50:308 (5)
01:42:451 (1,2) - remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 2 to be consistent with 00:52:165 (3)
03:25:737 (1,3) - remove 1's new combo and add a new combo to 3 to be consistent with 03:21:164 (5)

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Nice map overall. Fix the offset and I'll rep-bubble the song. Star.

bpm is 105.090

ztrot wrote:

bpm is 105.090

Disregard that timing, we're figuring out wtf is actually wrong with it.

Thanks Lokamp


Thanks blissfulyoshi
There are some timing and offset problem and I still trying to find what the problems are any help will be welcomed

...uh, what? Seriously? Timing problems? o_o Why didn't I notice that when I modded this?

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good map.

Hi~

Everything looks really good

Have a star! *

Zekira wrote:

...uh, what? Seriously? Timing problems? o_o Why didn't I notice that when I modded this?

Yeah, I dunno. Even now, I still feel like the BPM is spot on, except maybe at the very beginning...

Kytoxid wrote:

Zekira wrote:

...uh, what? Seriously? Timing problems? o_o Why didn't I notice that when I modded this?

Yeah, I dunno. Even now, I still feel like the BPM is spot on, except maybe at the very beginning...

For now I guess I will try finding the places where the BPM sound off and just like you said Kyto the beginning part is the obvious one

Offset 21.178
BPM 105,005

no errors in the map. However i think you can improve the spacing alot
especially [easy]. you map too much in boxes ><

call me back to restore protobub

Finally the timing help
Thanks happy30

Now waiting for another response

protobubble restored!