Youtube Chorus - Dear You · forum

raxar

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raxar 2011-12-01T09:17:35+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 05 Januari 2012 at 13:41:33

Artist: Youtube Chorus
Title: Dear You
Tags: Chorus YTChorus
BPM: 87
Filesize: 3518kb
Play Time: 03:17
Difficulties Available:

Hard (4,2 stars, 371 notes)
Insane (4,6 stars, 440 notes)
Normal (2,4 stars, 195 notes)

Download: Youtube Chorus - Dear You
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My 2nd beatmap
~~Remapping done, ready for mod and aiming to be ranked~~
06/01/2012 edit: all diffs will get a remap for fixing the hitsound(and the diff too I guess). Do NOT mod this atm.
I do this since p3n said that this map's hitsound is messed up and overmapped(it's true), so yeah, remaking again

notes:

-Please give note if you're going Nazi, I accept all Nazi and I will look into it

-In Insane, various distance snapping is used, not to mention the jump and certain pattern.
-Suggestions/Mod/Stars are appreciated

Technical info:
video: @Youtube
Background: Taken from zerochan, the artist is from pixiv iirc
MP3: Taken from the one provided at the video link c:
SB: None

Changelog:
01/12/2011
-Submitted to WIP/Help Subforum
01/12/2011
-Change offset and renamed the diff to insane, a little change.
02/12/2011
-Some changes in insane diff and submit not-complete-yet normal diff.
03/12/2011
-Change some things in insane again and update the normal diff.
-j4yj4ys3z's mod.
07/12/2011
-Normal diff completed, Insane diff revised \:D/ change offset (again)
09/12/2011
-No_Gu's mod
21/12/2011
-Remapping done, wmfchris's mod done, moved to Pending.
22/12/2011
-Nyquill's mod.
23/12/2011
-Mochi's advice (done all of them I guess). submit again to full submit. I forgot to full submit earlier, sorry for any inconvenience ._.
-Kyshiro's mod :3
24/12/2011
-sp3's mod
25/12/2011
-Nymph's mod finally done <_<
27/12/2011
-CDFA's mod done except the timing snap because I don't know how to do it ;~;
-Kirino's mod done
-Lucy's mod done
31/12/2011
-SinDemonDragon13's mod applied
-Genkishi's mod done
-Hyphen's mod done
01/01/2012
-12BARRY21's mod, do some of it.
-[CSGA]Ar3sgice's mod done.
03/01/2012
-249's mod(did most of it)
-Faust's IRC mod(did most of it)
-Gamu's mod(did some of it)
-Hyphen's IRC mod.
04/01/2012
-Starry's mod
-Chewin's mod
05/01/2012
-Remake Normal and Hard, also fix hitsound for all diff.

Last edited by raxar 2012-01-06T04:14:18+00:00, edited 46 times in total.

j4yj4ys3z

110 posts

Joined April 2010

j4yj4ys3z 2011-12-03T03:57:56+00:00

My first time doing this hope it's not to bad

Normal:
00:19:525 (5)- The slider tick makes it sound weird. The slider is to short.
00:48:836 (6)- Same thing as above ^
01:18:146 (6)- Put a new combo

Insane:
00:15:215 (6)- You should make the slider in 5.
00:16:594 (11)- Move it one spot over (00:16:767)
00:39:525 (12)- I think you should remove that
00:46:767 (5)- Make the slider a little longer (00:47:801)
01:07:456 (1,2,3)- Remove (2), make slider (1) a little longer (01:07:284), move (3) back one space and make it one space longer.
02:23:319 (12)- Make it one space longer.
02:56:939 (21)- Put one more note after that

Note: In Insane the jumps seem a little to big.

Hope you finish Normal

raxar

38 posts

Joined September 2010

Topic Starter

raxar 2011-12-03T05:26:55+00:00

a mod post before I update the beatmap just now (which mean that there will be some difference in what you mod) o.o

j4yj4ys3z wrote:
My first time doing this hope it's not to bad

Normal:
00:19:525 (5)- The slider tick makes it sound weird. The slider is to short. change the slider and pattern after the slider.
00:48:836 (6)- Same thing as above ^ ^
01:18:146 (6)- Put a new combo I forgot to change it o.o done

Insane:
00:15:215 (6)- You should make the slider in 5. the flow is better, nice.
00:16:594 (11)- Move it one spot over (00:16:767) I don't know what do you mean, so I add another note instead moving the note.
00:39:525 (12)- I think you should remove that I'll keep it :p
00:46:767 (5)- Make the slider a little longer (00:47:801) okay, I can't made the slider longer at that time, now I've done it
01:07:456 (1,2,3)- Remove (2), make slider (1) a little longer (01:07:284), move (3) back one space and make it one space longer. Keep it too because of the new slider I move the notes too
02:23:319 (12)- Make it one space longer. done
02:56:939 (21)- Put one more note after that hmm..okay.

Note: In Insane the jumps seem a little to big. I want it that way

Hope you finish Normal

thank you for mod :3

No_Gu

2,954 posts

Joined January 2011

No_Gu 2011-12-09T03:47:45+00:00

request from my queue

[insane]
00:03:998 (9) - NC
00:16:411 (10) - ^
00:38:826 (10) - ^
00:49:515 (10) - ^
01:15:722 (9) - ^
01:50:377 add a spinner
02:23:309 (12) - whistle
03:12:274 (6) - clap at the beginning

[normal]
00:19:171 (4) - 1 grid left
00:37:791 (1) - spcaing
01:15:722 (3) - x256 y 172
01:43:309 (5) - remove clap
02:35:722 (1) - finish
02:52:964 (2) - clap

raxar

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Topic Starter

raxar 2011-12-09T04:53:16+00:00

No_Gu wrote:
request from my queue

[insane]
00:03:998 (9) - NC nope, it's insane so it's okay
00:16:411 (10) - ^ ok
00:38:826 (10) - ^ nope
00:49:515 (10) - ^ ^
01:15:722 (9) - ^ ^
01:50:377 add a spinner nope
02:23:309 (12) - whistle okay
03:12:274 (6) - clap at the beginning ..okay I guess

[normal]
00:19:171 (4) - 1 grid left
00:37:791 (1) - spcaing
01:15:722 (3) - x256 y 172
01:43:309 (5) - remove clap
02:35:722 (1) - finish
02:52:964 (2) - clap

all of the normal mod is done

thank you for mod

wmfchris

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wmfchris 2011-12-12T14:44:07+00:00

[General]
You don't need to tag youtube as it's in the artist name.

let's talk about some general problems.

I appreciate your creativity and arrangements, but you should put some rankable criterion into account.

1) In general, the spacing between two notes should be proportional to time gap between them to increase readability of the map, and it may looks more tidy.
2) Apply more hitsound variation. For example, the introduction part is too soft. I can only hear the hitsound. You can put S 10% there. The later part is louder so you may consider S 35% (the current one). You can adjust by adding timing lines as well as kiai time. In general the song can be slightly louder.

make some remapping and PM me for some rechecks :3

edit, well I just can't see the title, sorry ._.

raxar

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Joined September 2010

Topic Starter

raxar 2011-12-14T11:23:29+00:00

wmfchris wrote:
[General]
You don't need to tag youtube as it's in the artist name.

let's talk about some general problems.

I appreciate your creativity and arrangements, but you should put some rankable criterion into account.

1) In general, the spacing between two notes should be proportional to time gap between them to increase readability of the map, and it may looks more tidy.
2) Apply more hitsound variation. For example, the introduction part is too soft. I can only hear the hitsound. You can put S 10% there. The later part is louder so you may consider S 35% (the current one). You can adjust by adding timing lines as well as kiai time. In general the song can be slightly louder.

make some remapping and PM me for some rechecks :3

edit, well I just can't see the title, sorry ._.

ah no, it's my fault for not telling you, I forgot to tell you(iirc I ask you to mod this in your queue)

but still, thank you for your mod in general.

Nyquill

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Nyquill 2011-12-22T05:49:12+00:00

Hi \\\\o////// Makar is doing the full mod from my queue. But I would like to suggest a better offset of 1224. This should be a lot better ;3.

You should also take the OD of insane down by 1. Having OD 9 is not very suitable for a relax map like this~

raxar

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Topic Starter

raxar 2011-12-22T06:58:54+00:00

Nyquill wrote:
Hi \\\\o////// Makar is doing the full mod from my queue. But I would like to suggest a better offset of 1224. This should be a lot better ;3.

You should also take the OD of insane down by 1. Having OD 9 is not very suitable for a relax map like this~

thank you, it's a lot better now.
OD reduced, and inheriting point at insane diff is corrected(should not place the inheriting point right when the slider start I guess).
and too bad I couldn't get your mod, I want to get your nazi mod lol xD Makar is nazi too though.
kudosu for the offset I guess.

mochi

779 posts

Joined June 2010

mochi 2011-12-22T23:31:56+00:00

[General]
Resize BG to 800x600 (use this if you want http://puu.sh/biCj)

Because this is probably your first (maybe second?) map, I'll just give you advice instead of pointing out everything that's wrong in your map.

1. Avoid using really high difficulty settings on slow songs. 8 should be the max for HP drain rate and overall difficulty for this type of song in and Insane difficulty. For hard maybe use 6 or 7.

2. Try have an even/consistent spread for your new combos. And don't let the combo counter go up to high. Sometimes your combo counter goes up to 18!! Too high. You can put in a new combo at the beginning of every stanza or whenever the section of the vocals seems to be different from previous combo.

3. For Insane difficulty, try to follow the instruments or vocals as accurately as possible. For example, this slider 01:33:293 (15). Yes it's very beautiful but it's not as fun as hitting more notes that could have followed with the vocals. Here is an example where the repeat portion of the slider doesn't follow anything 00:39:844 (1).

4. It is easier to map a song that has more activity it. Dear You is very slow paced so it's not easy for new mappers.

Anyways, good luck with your mapping!

raxar

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Joined September 2010

Topic Starter

raxar 2011-12-23T00:26:58+00:00

mochi wrote:
[General]
Resize BG to 800x600 (use this if you want http://puu.sh/biCj)

Because this is probably your first (maybe second?) map, I'll just give you advice instead of pointing out everything that's wrong in your map.
1. Avoid using really high difficulty settings on slow songs. 8 should be the max for HP drain rate and overall difficulty for this type of song in and Insane difficulty. For hard maybe use 6 or 7.

2. Try have an even/consistent spread for your new combos. And don't let the combo counter go up to high. Sometimes your combo counter goes up to 18!! Too high. You can put in a new combo at the beginning of every stanza or whenever the section of the vocals seems to be different from previous combo.

3. For Insane difficulty, try to follow the instruments or vocals as accurately as possible. For example, this slider 01:33:293 (15). Yes it's very beautiful but it's not as fun as hitting more notes that could have followed with the vocals. Here is an example where the repeat portion of the slider doesn't follow anything 00:39:844 (1).

4. It is easier to map a song that has more activity it. Dear You is very slow paced so it's not easy for new mappers.
Anyways, good luck with your mapping!

1.Okay
2.I'm trying to change it now
3. Found it, going to try to change it
4.Lol,my first map is a slower song with longer duration than this plus it has BPM changes, no way I'm letting this song go to the graveyard too.
I'll update as soon as I'm done doing this mod.
thanks for mod and Background.

Kirino Kousaka

655 posts

Joined November 2010

Kirino Kousaka 2011-12-23T04:12:26+00:00

Hello raxar! I think there's something wrong with your map because I can't redownload it ._. I deleted your map because when I updated to the latest version, the BG disappeared. And now when I try to dl your map, I can't for some reason ._. I have already started modding your map and about to continue until this happens... Pls. fix whatever this is so I can continue modding. :3

raxar

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Joined September 2010

Topic Starter

raxar 2011-12-23T04:23:33+00:00

Kirino Kousaka wrote:
Hello raxar! I think there's something wrong with your map because I can't redownload it ._. I deleted your map because when I updated to the latest version, the BG disappeared. And now when I try to dl your map, I can't for some reason ._. I have already started modding your map and about to continue until this happens... Pls. fix whatever this is so I can continue modding. :3

I forgot to full submit ._. thus,I have troubled you two times, sorry. I have full submit it now, tell me if it's still not downloadable.

Kyshiro

Elite Mapper

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Joined January 2011

Kyshiro 2011-12-23T15:35:22+00:00

As requested in my queue, modded your map.

Normal
v______________________________________________v

-00:18:465 Add clap
-00:19:844 ^
-00:38:465 ^
-00:39:155 Add whistle
-01:45:361 Remove whistle, Add clap
-01:46:396 Add whistle
-01:47:086 Add clap
-01:47:775 Add whistle
-01:48:465 Add clap
-01:49:155 Add whistle
-01:49:844 Add clap
-01:50:534 Add whistle
-01:50:879 Add finish

-Suggestion:{
02:30:879 Delete slider
02:31:224 Put slider (2) here
02:32:603 Add beat
}

-02:41:224 Slider looks messy
-02:42:603 ^
^______________________________________________^

Hard
v______________________________________________v

-00:04:672 New combo

{
-01:26:396 Remove slider
-01:26:396 New slider till 01:26:741
-01:27:086 New slider till 01:27:430
}

-01:41:224 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Move 5 squares to the left @Tiny grid
-03:09:499 (3,4,5,6,7) - Move 6 squares to the left @Tiny grid
-03:16:396 (6) - 1 square up @Tiny grid
^______________________________________________^

Insane
v______________________________________________v

-00:06:741 (1) - Slider looks messy
-00:08:120 (3) - ^
-01:30:879 (5) - Move the slider so it doesn't collide with (4)
-02:18:810 Add beat

-Suggestion:{
02:59:155 (4) - Remove slider
Add 5 beats on each step @ 1/4
Remove 03:00:017 (9,10)
}
-03:05:361 (5) - Remove slider, Add beat
-03:10:189 If you like the suggestion, you might want to do the same thing here
-
^______________________________________________^

Any questions? Contact me in-game :3

raxar

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Topic Starter

raxar 2011-12-23T16:36:03+00:00

Kyshiro wrote:
As requested in my queue, modded your map.

Normal
v______________________________________________v

-00:18:465 Add clap
-00:19:844 ^
-00:38:465 ^
-00:39:155 Add whistle
-01:45:361 Remove whistle, Add clap
-01:46:396 Add whistle
-01:47:086 Add clap
-01:47:775 Add whistle
-01:48:465 Add clap
-01:49:155 Add whistle
-01:49:844 Add clap
-01:50:534 Add whistle
-01:50:879 Add finish

-Suggestion:{
02:30:879 Delete slider
02:31:224 Put slider (2) here
02:32:603 Add beat
}

-02:41:224 Slider looks messy
-02:42:603 ^
^______________________________________________^

Hard
v______________________________________________v

-00:04:672 New combo

{
-01:26:396 Remove slider
-01:26:396 New slider till 01:26:741
-01:27:086 New slider till 01:27:430
}

-01:41:224 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Move 5 squares to the left @Tiny grid
-03:09:499 (3,4,5,6,7) - Move 6 squares to the left @Tiny grid
-03:16:396 (6) - 1 square up @Tiny grid
^______________________________________________^

Insane
v______________________________________________v

-00:06:741 (1) - Slider looks messy
-00:08:120 (3) - ^
-01:30:879 (5) - Move the slider so it doesn't collide with (4)
-02:18:810 Add beat

-Suggestion:{
02:59:155 (4) - Remove slider
Add 5 beats on each step @ 1/4
Remove 03:00:017 (9,10)
}
-03:05:361 (5) - Remove slider, Add beat
-03:10:189 If you like the suggestion, you might want to do the same thing here nope, it will change the pattern
-
^______________________________________________^

Any questions? Contact me in-game :3

Done all of them except the last insane suggestion

spboxer3

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spboxer3 2011-12-23T20:35:12+00:00

[genenal]
Hard and Normal need remove countdown
you need let kiai same as all diff

[Normal]
combo issue : In Narmal. over 6 combo is too over~

00:44:672 - add some note?
00:46:741 (2,3,4,5,6) - uneven spacing
00:50:879 - why have a break at this way? I suggest you need map this way [IMO]
01:47:430 (3) - up 1 grid ? (size 3)
02:36:396 (2,3,4) - need let them on same line~

[Hard]
same combo issue~ In Hard. over 10 combo is too over~
00:12:258 (1,2) - stack it [nazi]
00:16:396 (7,1) - ^
00:23:293 (1) - spinner finish at 00:23:293 (1) -
00:48:810 (11,12,13) - uneven spacing
01:01:224 (7) - left 1 grid (size 4) [nazi]
01:10:189 (9) - NC (new combo)
01:20:879 (1,2,3) - pattern [nazi]
01:28:810 - add 1 note and let it use finish
01:43:293 (5,6,7) - uneven spacing
02:48:465 (6,7) - stack [nazi]
02:53:293 (4) - up 1 grid (size 4)?
03:11:568 (1) - spinner isn't good solution I think

[Insane]
01:16:396 (11) - (start) finish?
01:18:120 (1,2) - stack it [nazi]
01:31:396 (6,7) - spacing issue~
01:31:568 (7) - NC
01:32:603 (1) - remove NC
01:33:637 (6) - NC
01:40:534 (1) - lol for this slider. I think it's not good for this way

[IMO]
01:57:775 - Break?

map this is more good then break
02:06:051 - ^
02:15:361 (6) - NC
02:16:741 (1) - remove NC
02:17:775 (4,5,6) - spacing issue~ so confuse for player
02:20:879 (5) - NC
02:37:775 (10) - NC
02:39:155 (1) - remove NC
02:39:844 (3) - NC
02:41:224 (1,3) - stack [nazi]
02:41:913 (2,4) - ^
02:52:258 (6) - NC
02:55:361 (3,5) - stack it [nazi]
03:11:568 (7) - NC

that's all

hmm... you need find other have more mapping skill modder to check your map~

good lucky

raxar

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Joined September 2010

Topic Starter

raxar 2011-12-24T06:47:53+00:00

spboxer3 wrote:
[genenal]
Hard and Normal need remove countdown
you need let kiai same as all diff

General done
[Normal]
combo issue : In Narmal. over 6 combo is too over~

00:44:672 - add some note?
00:46:741 (2,3,4,5,6) - uneven spacing
00:50:879 - why have a break at this way? I suggest you need map this way [IMO]
01:47:430 (3) - up 1 grid ? (size 3)
02:36:396 (2,3,4) - need let them on same line~

all normal done

[Hard]
same combo issue~ In Hard. over 10 combo is too over~
00:12:258 (1,2) - stack it [nazi]
00:16:396 (7,1) - ^ no, I'll keep the pattern
00:23:293 (1) - spinner finish at 00:23:293 (1) - :? mistype I guess?
00:48:810 (11,12,13) - uneven spacing fixed, I hope.
01:01:224 (7) - left 1 grid (size 4) [nazi] nope, I want it at the center, so I change position of (6) and (7)
01:10:189 (9) - NC (new combo)
01:20:879 (1,2,3) - pattern [nazi]
01:28:810 - add 1 note and let it use finish
01:43:293 (5,6,7) - uneven spacing
02:48:465 (6,7) - stack [nazi]
02:53:293 (4) - up 1 grid (size 4)? done, hope I'm right
03:11:568 (1) - spinner isn't good solution I think you got me xD changed to circles~

the rest of it are done.

[Insane]
01:16:396 (11) - (start) finish?
01:18:120 (1,2) - stack it [nazi]
01:31:396 (6,7) - spacing issue~
01:31:568 (7) - NC
01:32:603 (1) - remove NC
01:33:637 (6) - NC
01:40:534 (1) - lol for this slider. I think it's not good for this way [IMO]
01:57:775 - Break? map this is more good then break
02:06:051 - ^
02:15:361 (6) - NC
02:16:741 (1) - remove NC
02:17:775 (4,5,6) - spacing issue~ so confuse for player ztrot's formation always like that IMO. I'll keep it for now.
02:20:879 (5) - NC
02:37:775 (10) - NC
02:39:155 (1) - remove NC
02:39:844 (3) - NC
02:41:224 (1,3) - stack [nazi]
02:41:913 (2,4) - ^
02:52:258 (6) - NC
02:55:361 (3,5) - stack it [nazi]
03:11:568 (7) - NC

that's all
rest of insane is done

hmm... you need find other have more mapping skill modder to check your map~ okay

good lucky

thank you sp3

Nymph

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Nymph 2011-12-24T09:33:31+00:00

Hi Nymph here and request from my queue.

General:
KIAI times are not the same in all the diffs, please try to make them the same.

Normal:
Issues
oops difficulty setting are too high for a normal diff like this, I suggest to set the HP drain and the overall difficulty to 3.

Beatmap design/suggestion
00:22:603 (1) - this spinner didn't feel in the right place, actually I may suggest to make it begins at 00:21:913 and ends at 00:23:293. it follow the music.
00:38:810 (3) - spacing like this is quite weird to play, I suggest to use the distance snap, you can see 3 is too near to 2, try to move it further.
01:10:189 (1) - too near with 4, actually I can see you want to put this note in the middle of notes before, but this may make new players confuse due to the spacing change, so I would suggest to put this note further.
01:17:086 (5) - yeah again spacing problem, seems this is a little further then I expected, move it nearer, make sure it is the same spacing with others.
01:30:189 (2,3,4) - I don't really like triple hits in a normal diff, because it is really hard for new players to play.
01:39:155 (3) - yeah again spacing things. From now I am not gonna to mention things like this, please use sometime to check all the spacing yourself. if you have any trouble, see the upper right corner of the screen, and watch that prev: next: number, it tells you the spacing. For example: I saw you are using 0.8spacing all over this diff, so if you see 0.9 0.7 or something else, then check it. unless you do it on purpose.
02:00:189 (1) - this spinner didn't feel in the right place too, seems it didn't follow anything. And seems you are using it to shorten the breaktime, I think it is not good, I suggest to map some of the breaktime, it will makes the player feel better to play.

Hitsound
00:50:879 (1) - from here, no hitsounds since here? I suggest to add some, just like the things you did before here.
01:01:568 (1) - eh you got a whistle on the slider body, seems werid for me, on purpose or something?
02:56:741 (1) - the finish on the spinner feel very sudden, and the time the spinner ends is werid too. try to listen to the music and find out a better place to stop this spinner.

basiclly, same things are with hard diff and insane diff. of course you can use more freely spacing in those diffs but like this:
Hard:
00:36:741 (8) - this note should be in the center, it will helps the pattern looks more clean and neat.

about insane diff, actually I think it is a slow song, hard diff is enough, insane seems a little overmap. and seems you didn't use more rhythm in insane, just using smaller circle with higher difficulty settings and higher sv, I didn't feel it good to play.

Sorry I didn't mod the hard and insane diff in details, because seems they are not ready for detail mods yet. Just want to make sure you got the right rhythm,spacing and other stuffs first. Then we can mod this in details.

alright these are just suggestions~ feel a little hungry now so I am leaving yay~ good luck with your map! pretty good patterns and hitsounds for a new mapper, I hope you can work hard and finally rank it~

raxar

38 posts

Joined September 2010

Topic Starter

raxar 2011-12-25T01:47:12+00:00

Nymph wrote:
Hi Nymph here and request from my queue.

General:
KIAI times are not the same in all the diffs, please try to make them the same. done, hope it's correct this time, I have checked it many times.

Normal:
Issues
oops difficulty setting are too high for a normal diff like this, I suggest to set the HP drain and the overall difficulty to 3. wow o.o okay

Beatmap design/suggestion
00:22:603 (1) - this spinner didn't feel in the right place, actually I may suggest to make it begins at 00:21:913 and ends at 00:23:293. it follow the music. can't do it, if I follow your suggestion I have to remake other diff, to set the kiai time I move it to 00:23:293 instead
00:38:810 (3) - spacing like this is quite weird to play, I suggest to use the distance snap, you can see 3 is too near to 2, try to move it further. done
01:10:189 (1) - too near with 4, actually I can see you want to put this note in the middle of notes before, but this may make new players confuse due to the spacing change, so I would suggest to put this note further. done
01:17:086 (5) - yeah again spacing problem, seems this is a little further then I expected, move it nearer, make sure it is the same spacing with others. done
01:30:189 (2,3,4) - I don't really like triple hits in a normal diff, because it is really hard for new players to play. 1 note removed
01:39:155 (3) - yeah again spacing things. From now I am not gonna to mention things like this, please use sometime to check all the spacing yourself. if you have any trouble, see the upper right corner of the screen, and watch that prev: next: number, it tells you the spacing. For example: I saw you are using 0.8spacing all over this diff, so if you see 0.9 0.7 or something else, then check it. unless you do it on purpose sorry <(_ _)> fixed all of them
.
02:00:189 (1) - this spinner didn't feel in the right place too, seems it didn't follow anything. And seems you are using it to shorten the breaktime, I think it is not good, I suggest to map some of the breaktime, it will makes the player feel better to play. Mapped, break time in hard diff also mapped for consistency.

Hitsound
00:50:879 (1) - from here, no hitsounds since here? I suggest to add some, just like the things you did before here. looks like I forgot to put it, added
01:01:568 (1) - eh you got a whistle on the slider body, seems werid for me, on purpose or something? My wrong, also fixed other sliders at other diff, I just want to put the hitsound at the start and end of the sliders, because I'm tired when I making it, I add it like that since I think it's similar
02:56:741 (1) - the finish on the spinner feel very sudden, and the time the spinner ends is werid too. try to listen to the music and find out a better place to stop this spinner. Moved to 02:57:086, hope it's okay now

basiclly, same things are with hard diff and insane diff. of course you can use more freely spacing in those diffs but like this:
Hard:
00:36:741 (8) - this note should be in the center, it will helps the pattern looks more clean and neat. done

about insane diff, actually I think it is a slow song, hard diff is enough, insane seems a little overmap. and seems you didn't use more rhythm in insane, just using smaller circle with higher difficulty settings and higher sv, I didn't feel it good to play. Hmm, I see, I shall consider it, and I'll wait for other's opinion too

Sorry I didn't mod the hard and insane diff in details, because seems they are not ready for detail mods yet. Just want to make sure you got the right rhythm,spacing and other stuffs first. Then we can mod this in details. What this looked like to me is that "your hard and insane are not good enough, have many spacing problem, go remap it" you're giving me deathblow here <_< hard and insane remapped, insane has not much changes though(one of it, ztrot formation scaled to be smaller), hard's pattern are changed.

alright these are just suggestions~ feel a little hungry now so I am leaving yay~ good luck with your map! pretty good patterns and hitsounds for a new mapper, I hope you can work hard and finally rank it~ thank you Nymph

done...

Shohei Ohtani

Shohei Ohtani 2011-12-25T15:40:31+00:00

General:
Your timing section aren't snapped :3. I know it's silly, but if I don't mention it, someone else will ;~;.
Take Youtube out of the source~.

Insane:
Shorten down your combos ;~; Probably work to make them like, 8-9 instead of 14-15
The pattern mapping is ok, just sometimes it makes some weird jumps o-o.
00:41:224 (3) - Unless this was intentional, then stack this with (2) :3

Hard:
00:38:810 (3) - The endpoint of 3 is too high, so (3) and (4) aren't parallel ;~;

Easy:
02:15:361 (5) - NC :3

Cool stuff.

Kirino Kousaka

655 posts

Joined November 2010

Kirino Kousaka 2011-12-27T08:53:32+00:00

Hello!~ Here's my mod :3 Sorry for being very late >< (a request from my queue)

[General]
Kiai from "00:12:274" up to "00:12:446" only. I suggest you to do this for the Kiai fountain only at the start and no kiai up to "01:29:343"

[Normal]
00:13:293 (1) - Remove the "clap" on this part of the slider.
00:14:672 (2) - ^
00:15:706 (3) - Replace "clap" with "whistle".
00:16:396 (4) - Add a "whistle" on this hitcircle.
00:16:741 (5) - Remove "whistle".
00:17:086 (6) - Replace "clap" with "whistle".
00:36:741 (5) - Remove "whistle".
00:39:844 (4) - Put a "finish" on this part of this slider.
00:40:879 (4) - Remove the "finish" on this part of the slider.
00:44:327 (4) - Remove the "whistle" & "clap" on this part of the slider.
00:44:672 (5) - Put a "whistle" on this hit circle.
00:46:396 (1) - Remove the "clap" on this part of the slider.
00:47:775 (3) - Add a "finish" on this hit circle.
00:48:120 (1) - Remove the "finish" on this hitcircle.
00:51:913 (3) - Remove the "whistle" on this hitcircle.
00:52:603 (4) - Remove the "clap" on this part of the slider.
00:53:923 (5) - Remove the "whistle" on this hitcircle.
00:53:982 (1) - Remove the "whistle" on this part of the slider.
00:54:672 (3) - Remove the "clap" on this hitcircle.
00:56:051 (1) - Remove the "clap" on this part of the slider.
00:56:396 (1) - Put a "clap" on this part of this slider.
00:57:430 (3) - Remove the "clap" on this part of the slider.
00:59:499 (4) - Remove the "finish" on this part of the slider.
01:00:879 (3) - Remove the "clap" on this hitcircle.
01:01:568 (1) - Remove the "whistle" on this part of the slider.
01:02:948 (2) - ^
01:04:327 (3) - Remove all hitsounds on this slider.
01:05:706 (5) - Remove the "clap" on this hitcircle.
01:11:224 (3) - Remove the "whistle" and "finish" on this hitcircle.
01:13:982 (2) - Remove all hitsounds on this slider.
01:18:120 (1,2) - Remove the "clap" on the start and end of these sliders.
01:20:879 (1) - Remove the "whistle" on this hitcircle.
01:21:568 (3) - Remove the "clap" on this hitcircle.
01:22:258 (4) - Remove the "finish" on this part of the slider.
01:24:327 (2) - Remove the "clap" on this hitcircle.
01:26:396 (5) - Remove all hitsounds on this slider.
01:29:499 (1) - Remove the "clap" on this part of the slider.
01:29:499 (1) - Put a "whistle" on this part of the slider and remove all other hitsounds on this.
01:30:534 (3) - Remove the "whistle" & "finish" on this hitcircle.
01:30:879 (4) - Put a "whistle" on this part of the slider and remove all other hitsounds on this.
01:33:637 (3) - Replace "clap" with "whistle".
01:33:982 (4) - Remove the "whistle" on this.
01:45:017 (2) - ^
02:13:293 (1) - ^
02:13:982 (3) - ^
02:20:879 (1) - ^
02:21:568 (2) - Remove the "clap" on this part of the slider.
02:22:258 (4) - Remove the "finish" on this part of the slider.
02:22:603 (4) - Put a "finish" on this part of the slider.
02:22:948 (5) - Remove the "clap" on this.
02:27:086 (4) - Remove "whistle".
02:27:775 (1) - ^
02:28:120 (2) - Put "clap".
02:28:465 (2) - Remove "clap".

[Hard]
00:44:155 (8,9) - Remove these notes.
02:23:637 (8) - Remove "finish".
02:23:982 - Add a hitcircle here with a "finish".

[Insane]
00:55:361 (6) - Remove "finish".
00:55:706 - Add a hitcircle here with a "finish".

Lucy-Kaede

435 posts

Joined April 2011

Lucy-Kaede 2011-12-27T12:27:54+00:00

Modding from my queue

Hopefully I dont find the same stuff as Kirino

Normal
01:31:568 (5) - Move to x:396 y:248 for visibility. Little hard to see for a normal.
01:32:258 (1,2) - May need to be rearranged if you that the above ^

02:21:224 (2,3,4) - Was a little tricky for 2.5 stars.

Could try something like this?

OR

(imo I prefer this second one)

this?

02:26:741 (4,1,2) - Similar conflict here with both the sliders, hard to see the second slider is a slider and not a note. Could consider unstacking.

Hard
02:38:120 (1,2,3,4,5) -

Another cosemetic change

02:59:155 (5) - Move this slider down 1 and right 1 grid. ~ Slider's shouldn't share the same starting point. (Stack leniency issue) Please fix, and anything like it if i've missed one!
03:04:672 (4) - Same here ^

Insane
Some of the combo's are a little long, but seem to fit the lyrics properly.

01:54:327 (6) - Possible new combo.

Thats all for now!

raxar

38 posts

Joined September 2010

Topic Starter

raxar 2011-12-27T13:31:02+00:00

CDFA wrote:
General:
Your timing section aren't snapped :3. I know it's silly, but if I don't mention it, someone else will ;~;. I don't understand how to do that, really ;_; I will ask some people at IBC to get this done.
Take Youtube out of the source~. Done

Insane:
Shorten down your combos ;~; Probably work to make them like, 8-9 instead of 14-15 so hard to do, fixed some, there are still some that have more than 10, there are none that reach 14 though, if i'm right >_<
The pattern mapping is ok, just sometimes it makes some weird jumps o-o. fixed some
00:41:224 (3) - Unless this was intentional, then stack this with (2) :3 stacked

Hard:
00:38:810 (3) - The endpoint of 3 is too high, so (3) and (4) aren't parallel ;~; umm, copypaste the (4) to the (3) position did the trick, I hope

Easy:
02:15:361 (5) - NC :3 done :)

Cool stuff. thanks

I will try to do Kirino and Lucy's mod now, but I'm currently on holiday, so don't expect it too much.

I will not submit the beatmap now, will submit after I finished Kirino's and Lucy's mod.

eru

2,885 posts

Joined November 2009

eru 2011-12-27T13:47:41+00:00

wah ternyata u map lagu ini? gw dulu denger di yt haha

raxar

38 posts

Joined September 2010

Topic Starter

raxar 2011-12-27T13:51:03+00:00

hitmantutor wrote:
wah ternyata u map lagu ini? gw dulu denger di yt haha

lol, ada yg tau ternyata xD
----
well, modding modding..
edit:finished Kirino's, working at Lucy's mod...

Kirino Kousaka wrote:
Hello!~ Here's my mod :3 Sorry for being very late >< (a request from my queue)

[General]
Kiai from "00:12:274" up to "00:12:446" only. I suggest you to do this for the Kiai fountain only at the start and no kiai up to "01:29:343"

[Normal]
00:13:293 (1) - Remove the "clap" on this part of the slider.
00:14:672 (2) - ^
00:15:706 (3) - Replace "clap" with "whistle".
00:16:396 (4) - Add a "whistle" on this hitcircle.
00:16:741 (5) - Remove "whistle".
00:17:086 (6) - Replace "clap" with "whistle".
00:36:741 (5) - Remove "whistle".
00:39:844 (4) - Put a "finish" on this part of this slider.
00:40:879 (4) - Remove the "finish" on this part of the slider.
00:44:327 (4) - Remove the "whistle" & "clap" on this part of the slider.
00:44:672 (5) - Put a "whistle" on this hit circle.
00:46:396 (1) - Remove the "clap" on this part of the slider.
00:47:775 (3) - Add a "finish" on this hit circle.
00:48:120 (1) - Remove the "finish" on this hitcircle.
00:51:913 (3) - Remove the "whistle" on this hitcircle.
00:52:603 (4) - Remove the "clap" on this part of the slider.
00:53:923 (5) - Remove the "whistle" on this hitcircle.
00:53:982 (1) - Remove the "whistle" on this part of the slider.
00:54:672 (3) - Remove the "clap" on this hitcircle.
00:56:051 (1) - Remove the "clap" on this part of the slider.
00:56:396 (1) - Put a "clap" on this part of this slider.
00:57:430 (3) - Remove the "clap" on this part of the slider.
00:59:499 (4) - Remove the "finish" on this part of the slider.
01:00:879 (3) - Remove the "clap" on this hitcircle.
01:01:568 (1) - Remove the "whistle" on this part of the slider.
01:02:948 (2) - ^
01:04:327 (3) - Remove all hitsounds on this slider.
01:05:706 (5) - Remove the "clap" on this hitcircle.
01:11:224 (3) - Remove the "whistle" and "finish" on this hitcircle.
01:13:982 (2) - Remove all hitsounds on this slider.
01:18:120 (1,2) - Remove the "clap" on the start and end of these sliders.
01:20:879 (1) - Remove the "whistle" on this hitcircle.
01:21:568 (3) - Remove the "clap" on this hitcircle.
01:22:258 (4) - Remove the "finish" on this part of the slider.
01:24:327 (2) - Remove the "clap" on this hitcircle.
01:26:396 (5) - Remove all hitsounds on this slider.
01:29:499 (1) - Remove the "clap" on this part of the slider.
01:29:499 (1) - Put a "whistle" on this part of the slider and remove all other hitsounds on this.
01:30:534 (3) - Remove the "whistle" & "finish" on this hitcircle.
01:30:879 (4) - Put a "whistle" on this part of the slider and remove all other hitsounds on this.
01:33:637 (3) - Replace "clap" with "whistle".
01:33:982 (4) - Remove the "whistle" on this.
01:45:017 (2) - ^
02:13:293 (1) - ^
02:13:982 (3) - ^
02:20:879 (1) - ^
02:21:568 (2) - Remove the "clap" on this part of the slider.
02:22:258 (4) - Remove the "finish" on this part of the slider.
02:22:603 (4) - Put a "finish" on this part of the slider.
02:22:948 (5) - Remove the "clap" on this.
02:27:086 (4) - Remove "whistle".
02:27:775 (1) - ^
02:28:120 (2) - Put "clap".
02:28:465 (2) - Remove "clap".

[Hard]
00:44:155 (8,9) - Remove these notes.
02:23:637 (8) - Remove "finish".
02:23:982 - Add a hitcircle here with a "finish".

[Insane]
00:55:361 (6) - Remove "finish".
00:55:706 - Add a hitcircle here with a "finish".

Lucy-Kaede wrote:
Modding from my queue
Hopefully I dont find the same stuff as Kirino

Normal
01:31:568 (5) - Move to x:396 y:248 for visibility. Little hard to see for a normal.
01:32:258 (1,2) - May need to be rearranged if you that the above ^

02:21:224 (2,3,4) - Was a little tricky for 2.5 stars.
Could try something like this?

OR

(imo I prefer this second one)
this?

02:26:741 (4,1,2) - Similar conflict here with both the sliders, hard to see the second slider is a slider and not a note. Could consider unstacking.

Hard
02:38:120 (1,2,3,4,5) -
Another cosemetic change
02:59:155 (5) - Move this slider down 1 and right 1 grid. ~ Slider's shouldn't share the same starting point. (Stack leniency issue) Please fix, and anything like it if i've missed one!
03:04:672 (4) - Same here ^

Insane
Some of the combo's are a little long, but seem to fit the lyrics properly.

01:54:327 (6) - Possible new combo.

Thats all for now!

done all of them, for Lucy's suggestion, I chose the 2nd one.thank you both of you

hope I'm doing all of them right, ;~;
oh, and with Lucy's agreement, I change some combos back to be a longer one, since the place I chose for new combo, is too pushing it.

SinDemonDragon13

274 posts

Joined July 2011

SinDemonDragon13 2011-12-27T23:02:11+00:00

Hi~ request from my and Crystals modding queue~

Here is the modded version of the beatmap!

Didnt have to mod that much of it thought.I will star it when I get more kudosu!

Download: Youtube Chorus - Dear You (raxar) [Normal].osu

Download: Youtube Chorus - Dear You (raxar) [Hard].osu

Download: Youtube Chorus - Dear You (raxar) [Normal].osu

Last edited by SinDemonDragon13 2011-12-28T13:39:06+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Maya-kira

368 posts

Joined May 2011

Maya-kira 2011-12-28T06:10:54+00:00

good luck raxar >w</
maya belum download map atau lagunya sih (slow net issue)

inb4
star

raxar

38 posts

Joined September 2010

Topic Starter

raxar 2011-12-29T02:47:59+00:00

Maya-kira wrote:
good luck raxar >w</
maya belum download map atau lagunya sih (slow net issue)

inb4
star

makasih maya =w=/
=========
currently waiting response from sindemondragon, it looks like he mixed up normal and insane, also asking what kind of changes he made.

Genkishi

566 posts

Joined September 2010

Genkishi 2011-12-29T11:05:15+00:00

Hi

requested from my queue

[General]
-delete .osb file if you will not add any SB
-resnap kiai parts

[Normal]
00:39:844 (4)-it is better to make this slider like this

SPOILER

00:45:361 (1)-^same
00:57:430 (3)-^
01:04:327 (3)-move the last of this slider 1 grid to the right,if you do move (4,5,6) 1 grid to the right to so (6) will be in the middle line
01:09:499 (4)-1 grid to the right so (2) and (4) will align
02:42:603 (3)-add clap in the reverse arrow of this slider

[Hard]
00:13:293 (2)-1 grid to the left
00:21:913 (5)-1 grid to the right
01:41:913 (3)-1 grid to the right as well the slider that stack with this note

[Insane]
-very small circles add 1 in the Circle size as well as the Overall diff.
00:15:017 (5)-align this slider with (1) in 00:14:327
00:42:603 (7)-1 grid up?
00:46:741 (6)-it is better if the slider would be like this

SPOILER

That's All!!

raxar

38 posts

Joined September 2010

Topic Starter

raxar 2011-12-31T06:59:37+00:00

Genkishi wrote:
Hi

requested from my queue

[General]
-delete .osb file if you will not add any SB
-resnap kiai parts my friend said to do it by timing resnap all notes...hope he's right and I did it right

[Normal]
00:39:844 (4)-it is better to make this slider like this
SPOILER
okay
00:45:361 (1)-^same okay
00:57:430 (3)-^ nope, I use the slider from sindemon
01:04:327 (3)-move the last of this slider 1 grid to the right,if you do move (4,5,6) 1 grid to the right to so (6) will be in the middle line nice
01:09:499 (4)-1 grid to the right so (2) and (4) will align okay
02:42:603 (3)-add clap in the reverse arrow of this slider okay

[Hard]
00:13:293 (2)-1 grid to the left
00:21:913 (5)-1 grid to the right
01:41:913 (3)-1 grid to the right as well the slider that stack with this note
all done

[Insane]
-very small circles add 1 in the Circle size as well as the Overall diff. Umm, if I add +1 it would be smaller, so I -1 it so it would be bigger. no changes to OD if you want me to +1 it.
00:15:017 (5)-align this slider with (1) in 00:14:327 done
00:42:603 (7)-1 grid up? thanks c:
00:46:741 (6)-it is better if the slider would be like this
SPOILER
took some time to get it, hope I did it right (•‿•)

That's All!!

thank you for mod

and SinDemonDragon13, thanks for star

-----

257 posts

Joined June 2008

----- 2011-12-31T13:41:29+00:00

A mod request on irc pm

In my mod post, any text in round brackets will be my opinions, suggestions, explanations, or something I'm not so sure about.
And every note moving suggestions is using grid level 4.

[General]
(It seems you don't put as much effort on the hitsound part on Normal as your Insane or Hard 0.0)

[Normal]
00:56:051 (1) - (even if it's a new combo, please keep the distance snap between it and previous circle no greater than 0.8x since that seems to be the principle of this map)
01:49:499 (2,3,4,5) -move down a grid (to align them with "(1)" and "(1) in next combo chain")
02:14:327 (4) - move right 2 grids (to form a symmetry pattern)

[Hard]
00:20:534 (1) - is it supposed to be the same place with "00:19:155 (4)"...?
00:23:293 (1) - extend the spinner length to 00:27:430
00:56:051 (1,2,3,4) - (right one grid)
01:48:810 (1) - (left one grid)
01:56:396 (5) - add a clap
02:17:775 (4) - (should be finish)
02:26:741 (7) - move right one grid
03:13:293 (6) - (add a clap)

[Insane]
01:05:362 (7) - left 3 grids, up 3 grids
01:17:430 (4) - (no finish here is better)
01:19:499 (2) - remove finish
01:32:086 (3) - (should be finish)
01:32:430 (4) - (should be clap)
01:33:465 (9) - move it to 01:33:293
01:50:534 (8) - (a slider to 01:50:879 with finish sounds better)
02:00:189 (6) - right one grid, up one grid
02:17:430 (7) - down 3 grids
03:07:430 (10) - (add a finish)

That's about it then :3
Good luck on your ranking~

Dino99

1,811 posts

Joined May 2011

Dino99 2011-12-31T15:50:35+00:00

Request from my queue~

[Hard]

OD-1?
00:23:293 (1) - To 00:27:086?
00:54:672 (3,4) - Try this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/210098
01:01:224 (7) - Remove finish
01:01:913 - Add a note with finish
01:10:879 (3,4) - Remove finish
01:34:327 (7) - Make them become a triangle? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/210100
02:51:741 - Add a note
02:51:913 - ^
03:00:189 - ^

[Insane]

HR & OD-1?
01:05:017 (6) - Remove finish
01:06:051 (9) - Finish
01:17:775 - Add a note with finish
01:19:499 (2) - Likke this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/210103
01:29:499 (1) - Fix it please... To 01:29:844 not to 01:29:930 =w=
02:26:741 (7) - Remove finish
02:27:086 (1) - Finish
02:28:465 (5) - ^
02:28:982 (7,8) - Remove finish...
03:05:706 - Add a note

That's all~

raxar

38 posts

Joined September 2010

Topic Starter

raxar 2011-12-31T18:56:19+00:00

----- wrote:
A mod request on irc pm

In my mod post, any text in round brackets will be my opinions, suggestions, explanations, or something I'm not so sure about.
And every note moving suggestions is using grid level 4.

[General]
(It seems you don't put as much effort on the hitsound part on Normal as your Insane or Hard 0.0)

[Normal]
00:56:051 (1) - (even if it's a new combo, please keep the distance snap between it and previous circle no greater than 0.8x since that seems to be the principle of this map)
01:49:499 (2,3,4,5) -move down a grid (to align them with "(1)" and "(1) in next combo chain")
02:14:327 (4) - move right 2 grids (to form a symmetry pattern)

done all of the normal mod :3

[Hard]
00:20:534 (1) - is it supposed to be the same place with "00:19:155 (4)"...? nope
00:23:293 (1) - extend the spinner length to 00:27:430
00:56:051 (1,2,3,4) - (right one grid)
01:48:810 (1) - (left one grid)
01:56:396 (5) - add a clap
02:17:775 (4) - (should be finish)
02:26:741 (7) - move right one grid
03:13:293 (6) - (add a clap)

done all of the hard mod except the first one :3

[Insane]
01:05:362 (7) - left 3 grids, up 3 grids
01:17:430 (4) - (no finish here is better) changed to whistle, though with no sound, with whistle or with finish it still could sound good lol
01:19:499 (2) - remove finish
01:32:086 (3) - (should be finish)
01:32:430 (4) - (should be clap)
01:33:465 (9) - move it to 01:33:293
01:50:534 (8) - (a slider to 01:50:879 with finish sounds better)
02:00:189 (6) - right one grid, up one grid
02:17:430 (7) - down 3 grids
03:07:430 (10) - (add a finish) nope, (11) got the finish sound :3

done all of them except the last one

That's about it then :3
Good luck on your ranking~ thank you hyphens (-w-)b

12BARRY21 wrote:
Request from my queue~

[Hard]
OD-1? nope
00:23:293 (1) - To 00:27:086? I think it's already at that time, tho it's extended to white line from -----'s mod.
00:54:672 (3,4) - Try this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/210098 ok
01:01:224 (7) - Remove finish no
01:01:913 - Add a note with finish how could I? It's the middle of slider -_-
01:10:879 (3,4) - Remove finish changed to whistle
01:34:327 (7) - Make them become a triangle? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/210100
02:51:741 - Add a note nope
02:51:913 - ^ ^
03:00:189 - ^ there is a sound to put a note, but you only could hear it if you use slow playback speed, so nope
[Insane]
HR & OD-1? nope, and by HR, IDK what do you mean, should it be hp drain or AR :/ if you mean AR, I will keep it for the time being
01:05:017 (6) - Remove finish no, I want to keep the sound pattern
01:06:051 (9) - Finish no
01:17:775 - Add a note with finish no, placing circle would result in changes of position for sliders and so on
01:19:499 (2) - Likke this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/210103 no, it would change the pattern again, and because it's only one beat away I think it's best to overlap it
01:29:499 (1) - Fix it please... To 01:29:844 not to 01:29:930 =w= recalculated.
02:26:741 (7) - Remove finish no, change 02:27:775 (3) - to get finish instead
02:27:086 (1) - Finish no/color]
02:28:465 (5) - ^
02:28:982 (7,8) - Remove finish... no, change (6,7) to clap instead
03:05:706 - Add a note
I won't add it atm, at that timeline there was a slider, but I changed it to circle for reason that I have forgot, so I'll keep it for now

That's all~

you spot the slider that need to get recalculated, it's pretty vital, and you give me triangle suggestion(which I hope I do it right).
so I think you still deserve your kudosu

[CSGA]Ar3sgice

4,298 posts

Joined July 2011

[CSGA]Ar3sgice 2012-01-01T03:06:26+00:00

Hi, from my queue

[Normal]

00:18:810 (3,4) - up 1 grid
00:19:499 (5) - up 1 grid, left 1 grid
00:48:810 (3) - move second grid to (148,116), end point to (76,144)

[Hard]

00:09:155 (1,2) - maybe http://up.ppy.sh/files/screenshot108-4.jpg
00:16:396 (1) - new combo
00:20:189 (7) - move to (312,120)
00:20:534 (1,2,3,4,5) - move to (264,200)
02:41:224 (1) - new combo

[Insane]

00:37:775 (1) - new combo
00:43:982 (5) - fix line
00:55:189 (5) - change clap to whistle
01:32:430 (4) - ^
01:33:293 (9) - spacing?
02:19:155 (1) - new combo
02:22:258 (1) - ^
02:25:017 (2) - stack with the slider perfectly...
03:00:534 (1) - new combo?
03:02:603 (4) - clap

Good luck~

raxar

38 posts

Joined September 2010

Topic Starter

raxar 2012-01-01T04:09:59+00:00

[CSGA]Ar3sgice wrote:
Hi, from my queue what a fast mod 0.0

[Normal]

00:18:810 (3,4) - up 1 grid
00:19:499 (5) - up 1 grid, left 1 grid I did this myself before I see your post, but it's aligned so I guess it's okay
00:48:810 (3) - move second grid to (148,116), end point to (76,144)
normal mod done

[Hard]

00:09:155 (1,2) - maybe http://up.ppy.sh/files/screenshot108-4.jpg hmm, okay.
00:16:396 (1) - new combo fit with the pronunciation of the lyric, okay then
00:20:189 (7) - move to (312,120) fixed
00:20:534 (1,2,3,4,5) - move to (264,200) okay..there are no big difference when playing after all. no stack though
02:41:224 (1) - new combo okay, also changed the next new combo
[Insane]

00:37:775 (1) - new combo okay, it looks like it doesn't make the diff easier too much.
00:43:982 (5) - fix linefixed, thanks
00:55:189 (5) - change clap to whistle nice
01:32:430 (4) - ^ okay
01:33:293 (9) - spacing? it's insane so I guess it's okay, no change
02:19:155 (1) - new combo okay, color pattern
02:22:258 (1) - ^ the placement of this new combo(this one and the one above this line) doesn't make the map easier too much imo, so yeah, okay
02:25:017 (2) - stack with the slider perfectly... okay
03:00:534 (1) - new combo? I'm afraid that this will make the diff easier..but hey, it fit the music for me, so I guess I should do it
03:02:603 (4) - clap no, I'll keep the finish sound, it's the end of combo after all

Good luck~

thank you for mod

YTYuyu

osu! Alumni

4,147 posts

Joined January 2011

YTYuyu 2012-01-01T05:24:45+00:00

Yo modding this map because of ur request

Normal:
00:16:396(4) - NC because its following "imasuka"
00:20:534(1,3) - add a whistle at (1) and replace the whistle for a clap at (3) to keep the clap pattern going
00:36:396(4,5,6) - replace the clap for a whistle for (4), remove the whistle (5), and remove the finish and replace it for a clap for (6). it sounds better IMO
00:44:672(5) - replace the whistle for a clap
00:45:361(1) - add a clap at the beginning
00:46:741(2,3,1) - remove the clap at the end of (2), remove the finish at (3) and add a clap for (1)
00:50:879-00:55:817 - for this part remove all hitsounds and follow this pattern
C= Clap W= Whistle F= Finish
00:50:879(1) - C
00:51:568(2) - W
00:52:258(4) - C
00:52:948(4) - W
00:53:637(1) - C
00:54:327(4) - W
00:55:017(6) - F but decrease the volume by 10% (35%)
00:57:430(3) - adjust it like This that way itd make a blanket around (2)
01:04:327(3,4) - remove the clap at the end of (3), put it at (4) instead and remove the whistle
01:11:568(4) - remove the clap
01:12:948(1,2) - remove the clap at the beginning, there's a trick on making the slider tick into a hitsound, but idk how to do it.
01:21:913(4,5,6) - remove the whistle and replace it for a clap for (4), add a clap for (5) and remove the finish and replace it for a clap for (6)
01:31:568(5) - remove the whistle and add a clap
01:32:258(1,2) - remove the clap for (1) and add a clap for (2)
01:34:237(5) - same as 00:55:017
01:36:396(3) - remove the clap at the beginning, remove the whistle at the end and add the clap at the end
01:39:155(3) - ^
01:46:741(2) - remove the clap at the end and add it at the beginning
01:48:120(4,5) - add a clap for (4) and remove the clap for (5)
01:49:499(2) - same as 01:46:741
01:50:879(5) - same as 00:55:017
01:54:327(1) - add a clap at the end
01:56:396(3) - add a clap and remove the whistle
01:57:086(4) - remove the clap
01:59:844(1) - ^
02:01:224(3) - ^
02:01:913(5,6) - remove the whistle and replace it for a clap for (5), and remove the clap at the beginning and end of (6)
02:05:706(4,5) - remove the clap for (4) and remove the whistle at the beginning and replace it for a clap
02:06:741(6) - same as 00:55:017
im gonna stop with the hitsounds. ull understand this rhythm if u follow thiese suggestions
02:32:603(3,4,1) - replace this for a repeat slider?
02:52:948(2) - *nazi* 1 grid right

Hard:
00:05:706(4) - remove the clap
00:12:258(1,2) - remove the clap at the repeat arrow and add it at the end for (1) and remove the clap for (2)
00:46:741(7) - move it down because its touching the Hp bar
01:28:810(5,1) - spacing
01:57:086(6) - NC
02:17:775(4,5) - end (4) till 02:18:465 and move (5) to 02:18:810
02:26:741(7) - align it to (6)
02:41:224(6) - NC
02:56:741(1) - align it to (9)
03:04:672(4) - stack this perfectly on (3)
03:16:396(6,7) - spacing and (7) is touching the hp bar

Insane:
set the slider tick rate to (2) like at normal and hard
00:04:327(2,3) - remove the clap for (2) and add it for (3)
01:26:396(9,12) - move it down because its touching the hp bar
03:00:534(9) - NC
03:06:051(6) - ^

this is the best i can do. the #1 thing u need to work on is ur hitsounds. they sound inconsistent and u need to find the correct rhythm. the claps r an example. anyways whatever u do, dont giv up on ranking this map. i really want to see this map ranked. GL

Maya-kira

368 posts

Joined May 2011

Maya-kira 2012-01-01T15:34:29+00:00

raxarrr~
maya boleh buat taiko diff? >_<
kayaknya seru nih lagunya~

kalau bukan taiko, easy boleh? xD

raxar

38 posts

Joined September 2010

Topic Starter

raxar 2012-01-01T15:37:24+00:00

Maya-kira wrote:
raxarrr~
maya boleh buat taiko diff? >_<
kayaknya seru nih lagunya~
kalau bukan taiko, easy boleh? xD

hmm. buat taiko aja dh maya. diff osu std nya kyk gini jg gk apa kyknya(semoga aja iya).

-----------
currently doing 249's mod...

Faust

osu! Alumni

4,785 posts

Joined January 2009

Faust 2012-01-01T17:15:14+00:00

IRC Modding.

SPOILER

00:49 <Faust> : About your Youtube Chorus
00:50 <Faust> : I think you could give it tickrate 2
00:50 <Faust> : it'd be really nice that way
00:50 <raxar> : oh, I think you'd ignore it lol
00:50 <raxar> : already applied btw
00:50 <Faust> : oh?
00:50 <Faust> : nice
00:50 <Faust> : I ignore 10% of the maps
00:50 <Faust> : I admit
00:50 <Faust> : XD
00:51 <raxar> : just not updated, dealing with nazi mod here, which I realized in the middle of doing it
00:51 <raxar> : *nazi hitsound mod
00:51 <raxar> :
00:51 <Faust> : 01:25:362 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - On Insane.
00:51 <Faust> : You can see here it's not centralized
00:52 <Faust> : really nothing much to touch on except nazi
00:52 <Faust> : lol
00:52 <Faust> : 01:32:430 (4,5,6,7) - Bad idea
00:53 <Faust> : not intuitive to stack like this, really
00:53 <raxar> : I'll change it then, somehow
00:53 <Faust> : 01:33:293 (9) - And then this note somehow jumps here
00:54 <Faust> : which I feel, isn't warranted
00:54 <Faust> : But I like that your map is clean
00:55 <raxar> : thank you for that
00:55 <raxar> : for the not centralized, maybe I should change it to another type of triangle...I'll think it through
00:56 <raxar> : for 01:33:293 I'll try to match it by changing the not intuitive stack
00:56 <Faust> : 02:23:293 (4) - Try this: http://puu.sh/c7xs
00:57 <Faust> : currently that slider looks limpy
00:57 <Faust> : it's not strong
00:57 <Faust> : for any sliders of such length I'd advise you to use more sliderpoints
00:57 <Faust> : so there's more emphasis to the flow
00:57 <Faust> : "fuller" looking sliders look better ;3
00:58 <raxar> : I see O.o will keep that in mind the next time I map
00:59 <Faust> : 03:11:568 (1) - probably should re-make this
01:00 <raxar> : o.o remake the slider....what I could I try..
01:00 <Faust> : On Hard:
01:00 <Faust> : 00:11:396 (6) - better to remove this note
01:01 <Faust> : 00:17:775 (1) - stack properly on previous note
01:01 <Faust> : 00:51:741 - Add a note
01:02 <raxar> : done 3 of them(hard mod)
01:03 <Faust> : 02:24:672 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Centralize if you want.
01:04 <Faust> : 02:30:879 (3) - Move to the red tick instead, this starts too early.
01:04 <Faust> : 02:31:568 (4) - Delete note
01:04 <Faust> : 02:31:913 (4) - Move back and add a note instead
01:04 <Faust> : 02:32:603 - Add a note
01:05 <Faust> : 02:39:155 (1,2,3) - Shift this pattern downwards so it doesn't overlap with the previous pattern
01:06 <raxar> : okay, trying to do it now..
01:06 <raxar> : the first one is not possible to be centralized I guess, will violate the dist. snap, I want to do it though.
01:06 <Faust> : 03:16:741 (7,8) - Suggest you move these notes somewhere else
01:07 <Faust> : Just violate it
01:07 <Faust> : lol
01:07 <Faust> : Distance Snap is not a law
01:07 <Faust> : Rather, it is a guide for measuring
01:07 <Faust> : It sets the foundation for mapping
01:07 <raxar> : lol, I'll try to do it then
01:07 <Faust> : and now I am applying a mod which I feel is more intuitive.
01:08 <Faust> : don't worry about it too much
01:08 <Faust> : Normal:
01:08 <Faust> : 01:29:499 - Unsnapped inherited timing section
01:09 <Faust> : 02:35:706 - Here as well
01:09 <Faust> : 02:46:396 - And here
01:09 <raxar> : gah, so it's still not snapped..
01:10 <Faust> : Actually, on every difficulty the same sections are not snapped
01:10 <Faust> : remember to resnap the notes back after you do these
01:10 <Faust> : I think that's about it
01:10 <Faust> : I think your Hard diff settings..
01:10 <raxar> : um, after I add inheriting section, I have to resnap then? o.o
01:10 <Faust> : no
01:11 <Faust> : my bad
01:11 <Faust> : just resnap the sections
01:11 <Faust> : your Hard settings are better off being AR6 and OD5
01:11 <Faust> : Technically
01:12 <Faust> : your mapset, going in accordance to the song..
01:12 <Faust> : is basically Easy, Normal and Hard
01:12 <Faust> : if you want to rename them, you can do so
01:12 <Faust> : Insane is a wrong choice of wording.
01:12 <raxar> : it's possible? without doing major changes?
01:12 <Faust> : Yes
01:12 <Faust> : it's very simple
01:12 <Faust> : : l
01:13 <raxar> : I'll do just that then, after I applied all of your mod
01:13 <Faust> : do you need me to post this log?
01:14 <raxar> : I guess yes, so I could give kudosu too
01:14 <Faust> : Alright then.

Genkishi

566 posts

Joined September 2010

Genkishi 2012-01-02T05:55:29+00:00

raxar wrote:
Genkishi wrote:
Hi

requested from my queue

[General]
-delete .osb file if you will not add any SB
-resnap kiai parts my friend said to do it by timing resnap all notes...hope he's right and I did it right

[Normal]
00:39:844 (4)-it is better to make this slider like this
SPOILER
okay
00:45:361 (1)-^same okay
00:57:430 (3)-^ nope, I use the slider from sindemon
01:04:327 (3)-move the last of this slider 1 grid to the right,if you do move (4,5,6) 1 grid to the right to so (6) will be in the middle line nice
01:09:499 (4)-1 grid to the right so (2) and (4) will align okay
02:42:603 (3)-add clap in the reverse arrow of this slider okay

[Hard]
00:13:293 (2)-1 grid to the left
00:21:913 (5)-1 grid to the right
01:41:913 (3)-1 grid to the right as well the slider that stack with this note
all done

[Insane]
-very small circles add 1 in the Circle size as well as the Overall diff. Umm, if I add +1 it would be smaller, so I -1 it so it would be bigger. no changes to OD if you want me to +1 it.
00:15:017 (5)-align this slider with (1) in 00:14:327 done
00:42:603 (7)-1 grid up? thanks c:
00:46:741 (6)-it is better if the slider would be like this
SPOILER
took some time to get it, hope I did it right (•‿•)

That's All!!
thank you for mod
and SinDemonDragon13, thanks for star

heeey where's my kudosu :3

Gamu

Elite Mapper

2,606 posts

Joined December 2010

Gamu 2012-01-02T09:13:14+00:00

hi-

request from my queue

[General]

●Volume 45% ⇒ 60%?
●Some green lines are not snapped. Please make sure all.

[Normal]

●AR-1?
●00:12:603 (T) - Move in 00:12:430
●00:16:396 (4) - ｓｐａｃｉｎｇ
●00:36:396 (4,5,6) - try this
●01:08:810 (3) - whistle change?

[Hard]

●OD-1 and AR-1 please
●00:01:224 (T) - Volume 10% ⇒ 40%? No hear orz
●00:12:603 (T) - Move in 00:12:430
●00:17:775 (1) - 1 grid up
●00:18:810 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - 2 grid left
●02:24:672 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - try

144,192,144672,5,2
236,192,145017,1,8
324,192,145362,1,2
280,272,145706,1,8
189,272,146051,1,8
236,348,146396,1,4
236,256,146741,2,0,B|236:164,1,90,2|2

[Insane]

●OD-1 or HP-1 Please
●00:01:224 (T) - Volume 10% ⇒ 40%? No hear orz
●00:06:568 (T) - ^
●00:48:120 (7) - Add a new combo?
●00:52:258 (6) - ^
●01:04:672 (5) - ^
●01:46:051 (5) - ^
●02:00:879 (8) - Move (x:244 y:212)
●02:10:879 (9) - Add a new vombo?
●03:06:051 (6) - ^

Good luck

raxar

38 posts

Joined September 2010

Topic Starter

raxar 2012-01-02T17:34:43+00:00

Okay, did most of the 249's mod(there are some of hitsound mod that I don't do)

also do some changes in the hitsound at the rest of the BM.

Faust wrote:
IRC Modding.

SPOILER
00:49 <Faust> : About your Youtube Chorus
00:50 <Faust> : I think you could give it tickrate 2
00:50 <Faust> : it'd be really nice that way
00:50 <raxar> : oh, I think you'd ignore it lol
00:50 <raxar> : already applied btw
00:50 <Faust> : oh?
00:50 <Faust> : nice
00:50 <Faust> : I ignore 10% of the maps
00:50 <Faust> : I admit
00:50 <Faust> : XD
00:51 <raxar> : just not updated, dealing with nazi mod here, which I realized in the middle of doing it
00:51 <raxar> : *nazi hitsound mod
00:51 <raxar> :
00:51 <Faust> : 01:25:362 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12) - On Insane.
00:51 <Faust> : You can see here it's not centralized
00:52 <Faust> : really nothing much to touch on except nazi
00:52 <Faust> : lol
00:52 <Faust> : 01:32:430 (4,5,6,7) - Bad idea
00:53 <Faust> : not intuitive to stack like this, really
00:53 <raxar> : I'll change it then, somehow
00:53 <Faust> : 01:33:293 (9) - And then this note somehow jumps here
00:54 <Faust> : which I feel, isn't warranted
00:54 <Faust> : But I like that your map is clean
00:55 <raxar> : thank you for that
00:55 <raxar> : for the not centralized, maybe I should change it to another type of triangle...I'll think it through
00:56 <raxar> : for 01:33:293 I'll try to match it by changing the not intuitive stack
00:56 <Faust> : 02:23:293 (4) - Try this: http://puu.sh/c7xs
00:57 <Faust> : currently that slider looks limpy
00:57 <Faust> : it's not strong
00:57 <Faust> : for any sliders of such length I'd advise you to use more sliderpoints
00:57 <Faust> : so there's more emphasis to the flow
00:57 <Faust> : "fuller" looking sliders look better ;3
00:58 <raxar> : I see O.o will keep that in mind the next time I map
00:59 <Faust> : 03:11:568 (1) - probably should re-make this
01:00 <raxar> : o.o remake the slider....what I could I try..
01:00 <Faust> : On Hard:
01:00 <Faust> : 00:11:396 (6) - better to remove this note
01:01 <Faust> : 00:17:775 (1) - stack properly on previous note
01:01 <Faust> : 00:51:741 - Add a note
01:02 <raxar> : done 3 of them(hard mod)
01:03 <Faust> : 02:24:672 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Centralize if you want.
01:04 <Faust> : 02:30:879 (3) - Move to the red tick instead, this starts too early.
01:04 <Faust> : 02:31:568 (4) - Delete note
01:04 <Faust> : 02:31:913 (4) - Move back and add a note instead
01:04 <Faust> : 02:32:603 - Add a note I want to keep this pattern you gave me here so I kept the slider.
01:05 <Faust> : 02:39:155 (1,2,3) - Shift this pattern downwards so it doesn't overlap with the previous pattern
01:06 <raxar> : okay, trying to do it now..
01:06 <raxar> : the first one is not possible to be centralized I guess, will violate the dist. snap, I want to do it though.
01:06 <Faust> : 03:16:741 (7,8) - Suggest you move these notes somewhere else
01:07 <Faust> : Just violate it
01:07 <Faust> : lol
01:07 <Faust> : Distance Snap is not a law
01:07 <Faust> : Rather, it is a guide for measuring
01:07 <Faust> : It sets the foundation for mapping
01:07 <raxar> : lol, I'll try to do it then
01:07 <Faust> : and now I am applying a mod which I feel is more intuitive.
01:08 <Faust> : don't worry about it too much
01:08 <Faust> : Normal:
01:08 <Faust> : 01:29:499 - Unsnapped inherited timing section
01:09 <Faust> : 02:35:706 - Here as well
01:09 <Faust> : 02:46:396 - And here
01:09 <raxar> : gah, so it's still not snapped..
01:10 <Faust> : Actually, on every difficulty the same sections are not snapped
01:10 <Faust> : remember to resnap the notes back after you do these
01:10 <Faust> : I think that's about it
01:10 <Faust> : I think your Hard diff settings..
01:10 <raxar> : um, after I add inheriting section, I have to resnap then? o.o
01:10 <Faust> : no
01:11 <Faust> : my bad
01:11 <Faust> : just resnap the sections
01:11 <Faust> : your Hard settings are better off being AR6 and OD5
01:11 <Faust> : Technically
01:12 <Faust> : your mapset, going in accordance to the song..
01:12 <Faust> : is basically Easy, Normal and Hard
01:12 <Faust> : if you want to rename them, you can do so
01:12 <Faust> : Insane is a wrong choice of wording.
01:12 <raxar> : it's possible? without doing major changes?
01:12 <Faust> : Yes
01:12 <Faust> : it's very simple
01:12 <Faust> : : l
01:13 <raxar> : I'll do just that then, after I applied all of your mod
01:13 <Faust> : do you need me to post this log?
01:14 <raxar> : I guess yes, so I could give kudosu too
01:14 <Faust> : Alright then.

did most of it, except the part that I gave red text(actually I was a bit confused about your hard mod lol)

Oh, and I chose not to change the diff name for now, since it looks like the hard diff (surprisingly) got harder.

-Gamu- wrote:
hi-

request from my queue

[General]

●Volume 45% ⇒ 60%? I guess 60% is too loud, I'll keep it for now
●Some green lines are not snapped. Please make sure all. I snapped the section just like Faust asked, hope it's gone now.

[Normal]

●AR-1?
●00:12:603 (T) - Move in 00:12:430 okay
●00:16:396 (4) - ｓｐａｃｉｎｇ it's already gone when I done the previous mod I think
●00:36:396 (4,5,6) - try this okay, stack it with (3)
●01:08:810 (3) - whistle change? hmm, okay I guess.

[Hard]

●OD-1 and AR-1 please already changed in faust's mod
●00:01:224 (T) - Volume 10% ⇒ 40%? No hear orz no, it will make the instrument sound can't be heard.
●00:12:603 (T) - Move in 00:12:430 ok
●00:17:775 (1) - 1 grid up already done
●00:18:810 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - 2 grid left o.o nice
●02:24:672 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - try
144,192,144672,5,2
236,192,145017,1,8
324,192,145362,1,2
280,272,145706,1,8
189,272,146051,1,8
236,348,146396,1,4
236,256,146741,2,0,B|236:164,1,90,2|2
I centralized it in faust's mod
[Insane]

●OD-1 or HP-1 Please HP Drain rate -1
●00:01:224 (T) - Volume 10% ⇒ 40%? No hear orz no, it will make the instrument sound can't be heard.
●00:06:568 (T) - ^ ^
●00:48:120 (7) - Add a new combo? okay.
●00:52:258 (6) - ^ no, I want to keep the color pattern :3
●01:04:672 (5) - ^ no
●01:46:051 (5) - ^ okay I guess, I hope it doesn't make the diff significantly easier
●02:00:879 (8) - Move (x:244 y:212)after get told by a friend, I change it.
●02:10:879 (9) - Add a new vombo? okay I guess, I hope it doesn't make the diff significantly easier
●03:06:051 (6) - ^ already NCed in the previous mod

Good luck Thanks

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----- 2012-01-02T18:47:46+00:00

So, some irc discussion and modding:

the chatlog

01:40 <raxar> : you could update it now
01:47 <-----> : did you remade a lot of section on insane?
01:47 <raxar> : I think no, hard diff is the one that got a remade
01:48 <raxar> : the changes in insane is..a new combo, that is the most recent one from gamu
01:49 <-----> : on insane, 02:00:879 (8) seems a little out of place
01:49 <raxar> : no, it was made to at the same coordinate as (4)
01:49 <raxar> : though, I know what you mean, too far to be a triangle eh?

01:49 <-----> : i mean the x-axis
01:50 <-----> : yeah
01:51 <raxar> : moved to 244, following gamu;s suggestion
01:51 <raxar> : I think it's ok now?
01:51 <-----> : much better
01:51 <raxar> : should I update right away?
01:52 <-----> : btw...a little design choice question
01:53 <raxar> : ah, the pattern going on 01:32:xxx changed because faust asked me to, and...that's what I came up with
01:53 <raxar> : what do you want to ask?
01:53 <-----> : 00:53:982 (1) to 00:56:741 (3): the pattern's just straight line up and down?
01:54 <raxar> : insane?
01:54 <-----> : same with 02:07:775 (5) - 02:12:258 (3), but in 5 seconds
01:54 <-----> : yeah, insane
01:55 <-----> : do you think it's ok?
01:55 <raxar> : I hope it is though
01:55 <raxar> : the reason is..
01:56 <-----> : then no complain here
01:56 <raxar> : for the first 00:53: - 00:56 is because it's already caged around, and if I move it, it will resulted to pattern changes
01:57 <-----> : still on insane, 02:54:672 (8) - is rather surprising
01:58 <-----> : i mean the position
01:58 <raxar> : and for the last one, I will keep it, the notes are not many after all
01:58 <raxar> : lol
01:58 <-----> : sure
01:58 <raxar> : a straight copy paste and vertical
01:59 <raxar> : could be called a good jump for some people I guess
01:59 <-----> : the problem in 02:54:672 (8) is there's no any sort of indication of a note will be placed there
01:59 <raxar> : seeing there are no modders that complain about it...
01:59 <raxar> : . _ .
02:00 <-----> : within the same time distance
02:00 <raxar> : yeah, I know
02:00 <raxar> : though actually
02:01 <raxar> : 02:54:327 - 02:54:672 between this, there are some letback that make me put a jump, I thought so
02:01 <raxar> : I might change it though
02:01 <-----> : alright then
02:01 <-----> : and maybe lastly on insane, 02:59:844 (8)
02:02 <-----> : the distance is not consist with other 1/4 notes
02:02 <-----> : maybe move a little up?
02:03 <raxar> : 160+50 = 212, okay
02:04 <-----> : now on hard
02:05 <-----> : btw, i'll only do a quick mod on 3 difficulties
02:06 <-----> : so it's mostly spacing problems
02:06 <raxar> : okay
02:06 <-----> : 00:40:534 (7)
02:07 <-----> : the x-axis need to follow on (6) imo
02:08 <-----> : 00:47:775 (8) - follow (7) on y-axis (still imo)
02:09 <-----> : seeing they're in the same combo cluster, the distance difference between a new combo will not feel weird
02:09 <raxar> : phew, just done the insane
02:10 <raxar> : moving on to hard...
02:11 <raxar> : wait
02:11 <-----> : ?
02:11 <raxar> : if I move 40:534 to follow 6, that means I have to change the next pattern too... . _ .
02:11 <-----> : not at all?
02:12 <raxar> : ..o, yeah, okay I guess.
02:12 <raxar> : player couldn't see the line after all.
02:13 <-----> : new combo cluster is different then the current combo cluster, and conveniently explain the spacing inconsistancy
02:14 <-----> : at least to me
02:14 <raxar> : moved the 47:775
02:14 <-----> : when i mod your map few days ago, i think of it as a part of your mapping style, so that's why i didn't point it out
02:15 <-----> : or you can ignore that
02:15 <raxar> : lol
02:16 <raxar> : It's because I don't have something that I really hold to in this map.
02:16 <-----> : because spacing inconsistance is a really obvious problem to me, so i thought that it was intential
02:16 <-----> : and 01:06:051 (8) - x-axis should be 200
02:17 <raxar> : kay
02:17 <-----> : but your map is really getting better and better after all those mods :p
02:18 <raxar> : good to hear that lol
02:18 <-----> : 01:25:189 (4) - x:256
02:19 <-----> : you may want to move all 3 1/4 note together
02:19 <raxar> : which?
02:20 <-----> : i mean don't move only (4)
02:20 <raxar> : lol, I know, aligned the (5) too
02:22 <-----> : 02:19:844 - add a note or something
02:23 <raxar> : it was asked to delete the note there..and I thought it's okay, well, let me look into it again
02:23 <-----> : an imo thing...but there's a vocal there
02:23 <raxar> : yep, the "wa"
02:24 <raxar> : things that could be done is placing one circle with clap or adding a slider that'd extent till the red line
02:24 <-----> : or a repeating slider ends there?
02:24 <raxar> : it could be
02:24 <-----> : idk
02:26 <raxar> : but I can't think of a good slider, straight slider seems weird
02:27 <-----> : um
02:27 <-----> : ok, hard is done
02:29 <-----> : on normal:
02:30 <-----> : 01:19:844 (2) - why a finish?
02:30 <-----> : 01:40:534 (1) - ^
02:32 <raxar> : because the vocal is a bit..heavy(01:40)
02:32 <raxar> : ?
02:32 <-----> : 02:01:913 (5) - finish?
02:32 <raxar> : changed to whistle
02:33 <-----> : if that's the case, all (1,2,3,4) should be finish
02:33 <raxar> : okay, give the finish sound since it changed sound
02:33 <raxar> : no, I felt that the 2,3,4 is light
02:33 <raxar> : but no matter, I have changed tthe finish to whistle
02:33 <-----> : ok then
02:34 <raxar> : and lol, my hard got his rating back, 4,19 from 4,48 xD
02:34 <raxar> : it looks like I'm able to change the diff name now
02:35 <raxar> : note: what faust said
02:35 <-----> : ok, normal done
02:35 <-----> : great job, no placing problem to me
02:35 <raxar> : what do you think if: normal go easy, hard go normal, and insane go hard
02:35 <raxar> : that is what faust suggest me
02:36 <-----> : should be ok
02:36 <raxar> : he said that it's possible, without major changes
02:36 <-----> : dunno what he meant
02:37 <-----> : major change about what?
02:37 <raxar> : do you agree? no major changes needed? no need to do a big make-over I mean
02:37 <raxar> : about the map
02:37 <raxar> : like, reducing more in song setup and changing pattern etc
02:37 <raxar> : to make it fit the name
02:38 <-----> : about the proper AR or OD setting, i don't know
02:38 <-----> : but i see no change on actual maps
02:38 <raxar> : but about placement, it's okay?
02:39 <-----> : well...you may need to ask some more experienced people about this
02:40 <raxar> : well, I want to change it, but I don't want to remake the diff again lol
02:40 <-----> : yeah
02:40 <raxar> : maybe I will ask another modder when I req them to mod
02:40 <raxar> : *for their opinion
02:40 <-----> : ok
02:41 <raxar> : okay, ready to update..
02:41 <-----> : should i post the log to shamelessly ask another kudosu lol?
02:42 <raxar> : up to you lol
02:42 <raxar> : it's possible I think
02:42 <-----> : then I will :3

Starry_old

Starry_old 2012-01-02T19:48:10+00:00

All suggestion / Mod for fun

[Normal]

00:39:844 (4) - Maybe new combo here?
01:57:430 (5) - ^
02:01:568 (4) - ^? Not sure about this one.
01:25:017 (3) - Make this slider shorter so its similar to the two notes before? They sound very alike so maybe make it similar/symmetrical?

Couldn't find anything else

[Hard]

00:03:293 (5) - New combo here? I like my combo's as short as possible but its your choice orz
00:39:499 (4) - ^
01:28:120 (2) - ^
00:14:672 (4) - Move this note and put it after this note 00:13:637 (3) -? make it stack?
00:21:913 (5) - Make this slider? cause the person holds his/her voice so slider would be better then just circle.
01:10:189 (1) - Why new combo here? Its same pattern o_o?
02:23:293 (6,7,8,9) - Not stacked right? 9 is kinda late?
03:03:293 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Can you find a way to split this combo?

All for this difficulty

[Insane]
01:58:465 (2) - x:272:204 just move it slightly cause spacing is a bit off
02:21:224 (2) - Move this 4 grids up so its similar to this note 02:19:499 (2) - because your trying to make it symmetrical / pattern?

Wow this difficulty is nice couldn't find anything wrong much xD

Chewin

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Chewin 2012-01-02T22:34:43+00:00

Hai, from my queue ~

General

Why is there an .osb file in your folder if you don't use any SB? Delete it and full submit ~
In my opinion, it's better if you don't use the soft clap because it doesn't sound good on this song >.<

Normal

00:13:637 (2) - Add whistle at the end, because you used it on the previous slider with the same sound
00:39:844 (4) - A new vocal starts here, so add new combo
00:41:224 (1) - Remove nc
02:57:086 (1) - This spinner, start it at 02:56:741 so it follows the voice
There are a lot of overlaps on this diff, infact you didn't use the full "area" http://puu.sh/ceFX >.< For example here: 00:17:775 (1,2,3,4) that is overlapped with the previous 00:16:396 (1,2,3). You also should to use different parts of the "work table" instead to use always the same positions <.< The map is localized and mapped especially at the center, so let try to improve it using different positions ;P

Hard

00:01:224 (1) - Don't use 10% volume, so low is unrankable. Set it at 45% like the others timing sections
01:31:568 (7) - New vocal starts here, so set new combo here and remove from 01:31:913 (1)
02:15:362 (7) - New combo
02:16:741 (1) - Remove new combo
02:18:810 (5) - New combo
02:20:879 (1) - New combo
02:32:603 (5) - ^
02:35:017 - Add circle
02:59:155 (5) - Improve the overlap with the slider (4)
SPOILER
03:04:672 (4) - Aww the same ^

Insane

00:13:293 - Add a circle
00:13:982 - ^
00:15:706 (6) - New combo
00:16:741 (1) - Remove new combo
02:18:810 (5) - New combo
02:19:155 (1) - Remove new combo
02:27:430 (2) - Move to x340 y60

Aww I wish you good luck >.</
PS: Give kudosu to -Gamu- you forgot it.. (:

raxar

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Topic Starter

raxar 2012-01-04T06:08:03+00:00

I'm going to remake hard and normal diff, because the notes placement atm is too focused at the center

I will try to remake it after I finished all of the mod.

Starry wrote:
All suggestion / Mod for fun

[Normal]

00:39:844 (4) - Maybe new combo here? okay, and I remove the new combo for the circle after it.
01:57:430 (5) - ^ okay and remove the new combo after this
02:01:568 (4) - ^? Not sure about this one. nope.
01:25:017 (3) - Make this slider shorter so its similar to the two notes before? They sound very alike so maybe make it similar/symmetrical? aligned

Couldn't find anything else

[Hard]

00:03:293 (5) - New combo here? I like my combo's as short as possible but its your choice orz hmm, okay.
00:39:499 (4) - ^ nope
01:28:120 (2) - ^ nope
00:14:672 (4) - Move this note and put it after this note 00:13:637 (3) -? make it stack? nope, and I'm going to remake hard's note placement too.
00:21:913 (5) - Make this slider? cause the person holds his/her voice so slider would be better then just circle. okay
01:10:189 (1) - Why new combo here? Its same pattern o_o? new stanza, and the combos will be too long if I remove that
02:23:293 (6,7,8,9) - Not stacked right? 9 is kinda late?changed.
03:03:293 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Can you find a way to split this combo? splitted.

All for this difficulty

[Insane]
01:58:465 (2) - x:272:204 just move it slightly cause spacing is a bit off okay, also arranged the pattern to fit.
02:21:224 (2) - Move this 4 grids up so its similar to this note 02:19:499 (2) - because your trying to make it symmetrical / pattern? yup, fixed

Wow this difficulty is nice couldn't find anything wrong much xD

thank you for mod

and moving on to the next mod...

Chewin wrote:
Hai, from my queue ~

General
Why is there an .osb file in your folder if you don't use any SB? Delete it and full submit ~
In my opinion, it's better if you don't use the soft clap because it doesn't sound good on this song >.< the normal sounds louder, no I guess :/

Normal
00:13:637 (2) - Add whistle at the end, because you used it on the previous slider with the same sound changed, not like what you said though
00:39:844 (4) - A new vocal starts here, so add new combo already applied in previous mod.
00:41:224 (1) - Remove nc already done while I'm doing the previous mod
02:57:086 (1) - This spinner, start it at 02:56:741 so it follows the voice
There are a lot of overlaps on this diff, infact you didn't use the full "area" http://puu.sh/ceFX >.< For example here: 00:17:775 (1,2,3,4) that is overlapped with the previous 00:16:396 (1,2,3). You also should to use different parts of the "work table" instead to use always the same positions <.< The map is localized and mapped especially at the center, so let try to improve it using different positions ;P
I'll remake the placement

Hard
00:01:224 (1) - Don't use 10% volume, so low is unrankable. Set it at 45% like the others timing sections the instrumental sound will be covered by hitsounds if I use 45% :<
01:31:568 (7) - New vocal starts here, so set new combo here and remove from 01:31:913 (1)
02:15:362 (7) - New combo
02:16:741 (1) - Remove new combo
02:18:810 (5) - New combo
02:20:879 (1) - New combo
02:32:603 (5) - ^
02:35:017 - Add circle
02:59:155 (5) - Improve the overlap with the slider (4)
SPOILER
03:04:672 (4) - Aww the same ^
Insane
00:13:293 - Add a circle
00:13:982 - ^
00:15:706 (6) - New combo
00:16:741 (1) - Remove new combo
02:18:810 (5) - New combo
02:19:155 (1) - Remove new combo
02:27:430 (2) - Move to x340 y60
Aww I wish you good luck >.</
PS: Give kudosu to -Gamu- you forgot it.. (:

thank you Chewin, part that didn't got red text or no text are all done(except the remaking).

hope I've done all of them right

p3n

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p3n 2012-01-05T23:01:22+00:00

[General]
I don't know if you did the hitsounds like this or if you applied someone's (horrible) mod to mess them up this bad. They are just that: a complete mess. No structure, no support of the beat or anything, mostly random claps and finishes

This song has a REALLY easy beat: heavily pronounced downbeat and less pronounced 3rd beat in every bar (and even less the corresponding 1/2 beats before those - better ignore those): http://puu.sh/cwud
If you use hitsounds make sure you support the actual beat or the dominant parts of the song. And be sure your hitsounds don't make up their own beat that goes in a different direction from the actual beat (which they do in this case).

[Normal]
Try to map what is most dominant and therefore easy to follow in the song at any time. This is your easiest diff and it should be very intuitive to play for rhythm game beginners. I wont point out every part that feels off but if you just try to map "what you hear" you should be fine. Using 50% speed or even lower is a great help if you can't find good beatpatterns for some parts of your map.

01:29:499 (1,2,3,4,5) - overmapping in a normal diff? why? Seems you tried to follow the piano here as it is the most dominant but if you play the song at 50% (or even 25%) you will hear and see your sliders are not really mapping the piano but they actually map nothing.
Possible beatplacement for this part: http://puu.sh/cwxE
Those circles just mark a possible beatpattern, where to use sliders that span between them or keeping/deleting actual circles is up to you. Anyway you shouldn't use 1/4 notes (even if it is repeat sliders) in your easiest diff.

01:29:515 - unsnapped KIAI and it should end @01:51:568
02:35:722 - again unsnapped KIAI and why do you make this only half of the chorus this time? would be better to end this at 03:00:534
02:56:741 (1) - end this spinner @03:00:534

[Hard]
00:01:224 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - again making up some beats when there is nothing in the song. Why not map what you can actually hear?
00:40:017 (5,6) - overmapping
00:45:362 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^
00:47:603 (X) - this is where you could add a 1/4 note
00:51:568 (3,4,5) - this is correct or rather not overmapped

00:56:741 (3,4) - overmapped
01:19:499 (3,4,5) - ^
...
I think you get the picture of what is overmapping and what is not. If you are not sure just play the song at slow speeds to make it easier.

01:29:515 - again unsnapped KIAI and it should end @01:51:568
02:35:722 - ^ better to end at 03:00:534 (make this the same for all diffs)

[Insane]
Again the Piano and the vocals are the most dominant parts of the song. The rhythm and baseline are almost constant throughout the song. Try to map what you hear. Some parts are done this way and that's why they play OK:

00:14:327 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - good but you could let the slider end on the white tick (where 00:15:706 (1) is)
02:57:775 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4) - except the 02:58:293 (2) that maps absolutely nothing but in terms of flow and following the song this is how it should be done.
03:03:293 (1,2,3,4,5) - nice

You don't have to map each and every sound you can hear. Pick dominant things (the higher your difficulty the more elements you may map) and find a combination of sliders and circles that 1) support the baseline/beat and 2) flow with the dominant things you hear (in this case vocals, piano,...)
Avoid overmapping as much as possible and if you want to overmap you should have a very good reason ("to make it harder" is not a very good reason).

01:29:515 - as in normal and hard: unsnapped KIAI and it should end @01:51:568
02:35:722 - again unsnapped KIAI and better end at 03:00:534

There is still a lot of work to do. But it is not as bad as it may look. Just take some time to listen and get the flow of this song. There are many (ranked) maps for the many versions of this song, maybe play some of them for inspiration

(INSPIRATION...not copy/paste!)
Also I recommend to read this: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=58959

-kevincela-

Elite Mapper

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-kevincela- 2012-01-09T16:17:33+00:00

Oh,just saw this will be remapped.
Well,when are you done,just pm me~

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-kevincela- 2012-01-09T16:18:12+00:00

Whoops,double post. Ignore this D:

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