This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, November 28, 2009 at 3:32:02 AM

Artist: KOKIA
Title: Chouwa oto ~with reflection~
Source: Origin: Spirits of the Past
Tags: Japanese Kokia Origin
BPM: 180
Filesize: 4586kb
Play Time: 02:48
Difficulties Available:

1. Easy (1.57 stars, 151 notes)
2. Hard (4.82 stars, 370 notes)
3. Normal (4.23 stars, 252 notes)

Download: KOKIA - Chouwa oto ~with reflection~
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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This is the opening song in the movie Origin:Spirits of the Past. This is also my first beatmap, but that doesnt mean it sucks! Enjoy!

Beatmap history:
Edit 1:
-[All]Added a KiaiTime spot
-[Normal] Split several combos.
-Thanks Loogiesquared!
Edit 2:
-[All]Fixed timing issues
-[All]Changed timing to 1/2
-[All]Set a preview point
-[Normal]Rearranged a lot of sections to better fit timing
-[Normal]Slider speed decreased
-Thanks Kytoxid!
Edit 3:
-[All]Changed bitrate of mp3 from 320 to 192 (7.17 MB to 4.30 MB)
-[All]Changed background image
-[All]A couple spacing adjustments
-[Hard]Added 2x warning sign for speed increase
-[Hard]Changed a few combo startings
-[Hard]Removed the slider ends on slider beginnings ( those were fun lol)
-Thanks osuplayer111!
Edit 4:
-[All]Added hitsounds
-[Normal] Changed a spacing spot
-Thanks Lizbeth!
Edit 5:
-Moved out of WIP into pending
-[All]Changed offset (+22)
-Thanks Zekira!
Edit 6:
-[All]Modified Hitsounds
-[Normal]Rearranged first section
-Thanks Armin!
Edit 7:
-[All]Modified Hitsound volume. Thanks Dusty!
-[Hard] Modified a couple hitsounds. Thanks Lokamp!
Edit 8:
-[Hard]Rearranged the slider section, Ended the Kiai time at the end of song
-[Normal]Added a note, Extended Kiai time
-[All]Added Source/Tags
-Thanks Jericho2442!
Edit 9:
-[Normal] Rearranged sliders from 02:17:800 to 02:25:800
-[Normal] Respaced several notes, Added a note at 02:01:830
-[Hard] Realigned notes around 00:59:330
-[All] Removed unneeded timing section
-Thanks Mafiamaster!
Edit 10:
-[All] Resnapped some notes that were off
-[All] Changed stack leniency
-Thanks whymeman!
Edit 11:
-Added Easy difficulty!
-[Hard] Respaced an underspaced note
-Thanks Starrodkirby86!
Edit 12:
-[Easy] Fixed a misspaced note
-[Easy] Finished to end of song
-Thanks again Kytoxid!
-[Easy] Fixed another misspaced note
-Thanks once again Starrodkirby86!
Edit 13:
-[Easy] Changed the beat a bit from 02:19:830 on to better match vocals
-Thanks Sinistro!!

Normal
Hard
Very, VERY good for your first map.

Thanks for the feedback
I added the second Kiai time you suggested-- the first one seemed a bit too short for me, and also I added one on the hard difficulty.
And as you probably noticed I put most of my effort in the hard difficulty, so thanks for pointing out those combo suggestions for medium!

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Thanks, I'm working on retiming/aligning the normal difficulty right now. I was also a bit confused on all the timing options, especially getting the slider speed at a desirable rate. I may be planning on adding more variance to the other slider sections (I just wanted to get some opinions and feedback on what I had so far)

As for the 01:28:014 (1,1,1,1) on Hard, I know I'm not supposed to do that, but I did want to get some opinions on it. It is 100% feasible using left/right mouse clicks (I was able to perfect that section, all 300s). I just wanted to see what you guys think!

Also thanks for the preview point, I was looking for that option in all the wrong places, I guess
And one other question, how do you set the preview image for the beatmap here? http://osu.ppy.sh/s/10358 Is it set automatically?

Thanks again for the modding!

EDIT: Okay, done making most of the changes
EDIT2: Will change the [Hard] 01:28:014 (1,1,1,1) section later tomorrow

Mod Info's:

Green: Suggestions, you don't have to fix, your choice.
Orange: You don't have to fix too, but is better if you do it.
Red: You have to fix this for sure!

Starts Suggestions:

Use another background please. This is already used on one ranked map.

- You need an easier difficulty.

[Normal]

00:55:014 (3,4) - Spacing.
02:27:063 (9,1) - ^

[Hard]

00:32:047 (1) - Starting from here, you need a storyboard warning for the 2x BPM.
00:39:047 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:46:047 (1,2) - Spacing.
00:55:047 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:56:030 (2) - New combo.
00:56:047 (1) - Remove new combo.
00:58:080 (1) - ^
00:58:097 (1) - ^
00:59:030 (2) - New combo.
01:21:080 (1,2) - Spacing.
01:28:014 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2) - EHHH??? Adjust all the section.
02:40:079 (1) - Remove new combo.
02:41:063 (2) - New combo.
02:41:079 (1) - Remove new combo.

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Thanks deadbeat and osuplayer111!!

I changed the background image (I didn't know the other one had already been used.. lets hope this one isn't either), and while I was at it I decreased the MP3 bitrate from 320 to 192, still excellent quality, but saves 2.8 MB
Also added a storyboard 2x warning for speed increase (first time using the storyboard too lol)
And I also made most of the spacing/combo changes you suggested, thanks again!

EDIT: Okay, somethings up with the background after submitting.. *fixed*

Kytoxid wrote:

Note: Loogie fails at modding. -cough-

Meow.

Normal
01:58:080 (4,5,6) - i recommend you to do with spacing what u did at 02:27:013 (6,7,8,9,1)
01:59:080 (8,9,10,11) - here too

need hitsounds <---

Hard
all good, good work

need hitounds

your first map? good job o.o

Thanks!
Added hitsounds and fixed the spacing thing

Just do what you think and make more awesome maps.

This map does not need modding.

Thanks
Don't think there's many more major changes I want to make.. so I moved this to Pending

First Offset: 497 (+22)
Second Offset: 113822 (+22, too? Wait what? Rofl?)

Other than that, nothing else for now.

Changed offset by +22, Thanks Zekira!

*_*

[Normal]

00:25:808 Very ugly position, please replace it. (Don't stack with 2, please) Maybe add a slider here
00:27:808 ^
00:29:808 ^

Try something like this:




01:13:475 (1,2) Whistles at the start
01:15:142 (1,2) ^
01:56:800 Whistle at the start+whistle at the end
01:58:800 Whistle
01:59:800 ^
02:18:300 Whistle at the start+whistle at the end
02:27:133 (6,7,8,9,1) A little hard for a normal. Delete some hitcircle and add sliders instead
02:29:133 (6,7,8,9,1) ^
02:29:133 Whistle
02:34:799 ^

[Hard]

00:38:475 whistle at the start
00:39:475 ^
00:46:142 Whistle
00:54:475 Whistle at the start
01:43:142 New combo?

That's all for me. I really enjoyed this map, so here you are a star+ a Kudosu star.

Thanks Armin!!
I rearranged that first part, Hope you like it
Also just learned that you can set the hitsounds for both the starting and endings of sliders.. Didn't know that before lol

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Thanks Dusty! I liked those sound suggestions! (Although I did think a few parts were a bit too quiet)

Normal
Very nice! ^^

Hard
00:24:049 (1) - finish here
00:26:049 (1) - ^
00:28:049 (1) - ^
00:30:049 (1) - ^

... and that's all! I seldon see well-organized beatmaps like this one... good job! ^^

Thanks Lokamp! I did sort-of the opposite of what you suggested- I added whistles where you suggested then added the finishes on the other side

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Thanks DJPop and WyndII

ok first off you need to add a source and some tags


[Normal]
02:00:048 - add a note, it sounds better
02:22:082 (1) - i dont like how much the (2) bofore it overlaps this, try to make this get overlapped the same amount as 02:21:032 (2,1) is
maybe a bit more kiai time?

[Hard]
(suggestion) 01:33:016 (1) - i feel this would be better to be curved so that it makes the pattern your doing flow better
02:49:082 - end kiai time

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very nice maps you deff get a star for these

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Thanks Mafiamaster!
I was a little confused by your 'evening out' suggestion on[hard]... I looked a little closer at the map and I didn't even notice that!

The uninherited timing section was there with a bunch of other timing things-- A part of the song skips beats (like 1,2,3 - 1,2 - 1,2,3 - 1,2), and the little pause (where the timing section you found is) skips a beat, so I had a few timing spots set up to reset the BPM to keep the metronome in time-- But since it doesn't affect gameplay, they aren't really necessary.

Good songs
star

Thanks Fleur-de-lis

[Normal]

You have a serious error in this difficult that needs to be looked into. From 01:53:082 to 02:48:082, all of the notes between there are not snapped into the timeline. Make sure all of the notes are resnapped.

Second, why is the Stack Leniency set to 1?

[Hard]

There's a serious error in this difficult as well that needs to be looked into. From 01:53:082 to 02:48:082, all of the notes between there are not snapped into the timeline. Make sure all of the notes are resnapped.

Second, why is the Stack Leniency set to 1 on this difficulty?

The rest of the map seems good so far though. As for the Stack Leniency, try to set it to at least Lv.3 as the lowest. Forum PM me for a recheck once the fixes are done.

Wow don't know how I missed that-- And I honestly don't remember why I changed the stack leniency...
Thanks!

Alright, checked out fine now and here's a bubble.

This is pretty good for your first map, have a star.

Thanks rust45!

Oh, how this map's changed since I looked at it. Not going to say much other than congrats.

Have a kudosu star too.

Thanks Kytoxid!

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Everything is great for me~
Star~

Thanks kino77 and Starrodkirby86

No, I don't hate you, I've been meaning to do an easier diff for some time now, just never got around to it..
Anyways, so there's the easy difficulty! It's quite a bit of a jump from normal, but hopefully it's consistent enough.

Also I matched the spacing at 01:09:830 (1,1) as how it was at 01:22:163 (1,1)... Just one of those inconsistancies I missed

What? New difficulty? -om nom nom-

01:11:083 (2,1) - Closer please.

I recommend mapping to the end; that's a somewhat awkward spot to cut off at.

Nice though.

Hmm.. lol, nice catch!

Also just spent the past 15 minutes finishing easy to the end of the song (It actually wasn't that bad lol)
Thanks again Kytoxid

Sooooo close. D:

[Easy]:
01:59:830 (3) - Can you make this closer? Sorry if I'm being stingy.

That's it. oxo

Haha, you're alright, I just don't know how I keep missing things like that

Anyways, fixed!

See what I mean by, "That's it" ?

:3

Easy
The steady stream of 1 1/2 beats starting at 02:17:830, believe it or not, may not be that easy to follow, mainly because of the stressing the singer gives to the syllables. How about moving 02:19:330 (4), 02:21:330 (4), 02:23:330 (4), 02:27:330 (4), 02:29:330 (4) and 02:31:330 (4) 1/2 backward?

After irc discussion with the mapper, we agreed on also adding an extra circle a beat after each 4, plus all needed spacing changes etc etc. Bubble burst...and restored!

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I see you being a great mapper in the future. Just map more fun songs and less repetitive songs like this. :P Anyways, ranked.

Yay! Thanks Takuma!

And thanks again for everyone else who helped!

Hard diff is really awful :/