This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, March 22, 2010 at 10:53:42 PM

Artist: Mimu
Title: Tears
Source: NicoNicoDouga
Tags: Vocaloid simplistiC x3ns0r FuukoLover EvilOonsta
BPM: 128
Filesize: 5237kb
Play Time: 01:30
Difficulties Available:

1. EyeDrops (2.79 stars, 123 notes)
2. Fuuko's Tears (4.61 stars, 191 notes)
3. Naite Iru (3.72 stars, 138 notes)
4. simplistiC's Chi no Namida (4.79 stars, 266 notes)
5. x3ns0r's Namida Ga Tomaranai (3.93 stars, 151 notes)

Download: Mimu - Tears
Download: Mimu - Tears (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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-EyeDrop-
03/16/10
*Started Beatmap*
*Finished 30 Seconds
*Finished Easy
*Added Rito's Mod

-Namidaga Tomaranai-
03/16/10
*Added x3ns0r's Guest Diff
*Added Rito's Md

-Naite Iru-
03/16/10
*Finished 1:31:990
*Added Teta's Mod
*Added x3ns0r's Mod
*Added Rito's Mod
*Added Fuuko's Timing,Bg changes for all modes

*Added new hit circle overlay, added new video, re mapped Naite iru

03/18/10
*Added leorda's fixes
*changed things around made spacing better used distance snap, upped the velocity
*Added Ray's Mod
*Added saymun's Mod
*Added Ignorethis Mod
*Added Suck's Mod
*Added simplistiC's Guest Difficulty

03/19/10
*Re Mapped Naite Iru
*Added Fixes to all modes
*Added Killers Fixes
*Added Rays And Ztrot's Skins
*Added Hit Sounds to Naite, EyeDrops
*Added fartownik Mod's
*Added Fuuko's Namida
*Added Beuchi's Mod
*Updated simplistiC's difficulty
*Added Agent Spins Mod
*Added Astom's Mod
*Added CDFA's Fixes

03/20/10
*Added Killers Difficulty
*Added Shulin's fixes
*Added Sonny's fixes
*Added xierbaliti's hit sound fixes

03/22/10
*Added gens fixes

I got 16 985 as the offset
The BPM seems fine

Star'd

hmm

first
place this as background

[Naite Iru]
00:16:531(*) place a hitcircle with clap here
place a clap sound on every hitcircle that that has also a clap in the song

00:32:000(*) start mapping on vocals here

[Eyedrops]
looks alot like Naite Iru
try different patterns

i will mod again when u applied these few mods

>my diff so far<
Download: Mimu - Tears (AtemiskKun) [x3ns0r's Tears].osu

General:

- Timing sounds off to me... I would try to get a timing by myself of this map if i were good at it... Lol
- Why is naite iru snapped to 1/4 and eye drops and x3nsor's to 1/6?
- Im going to suppose that naite ire and eye drops were made by the same person so... Why the dont have the same break timers? -__-
- Im going to suppose that eye drops and x3nsor's difficult is not done yet so... Either map the whole song, or cut the mp3
- I can see some slight spacing problems in all the difficulties. Not worth mentioning them unless you want them to be perfect. Of course, i have already considered the obvious jumps before saying this.

Naite iru:

- 00:18:640 (9,10,1,2,3,4) - Dont make them so chaotic please
- 00:33:171 (2) - Kinda too unexpected for the easiest difficulty, use distance snap here please
- 00:42:078 (1) - Move it farther away from previous circle
- 00:49:578 (10,11,1,2,3,4,5,6) - sounds horrible, dont really know to what they are snapped
- 01:18:640 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Quite horrible pattern

Eye drops:

- 00:15:578 (1) - >_>.... no comments here, but seriously?
- 00:18:860 (1) - This mega huge jump is kinda too uncalled for... maybe make it a simple jump instead of a mega huge one Lol
- 00:49:331 (1) - Okay... im starting to feel that you are just trying to cheat AImod by using new combos... And i dont like it >=o


x3nsor's:

No big problems here, and most of them are not worth mentioning it except for a few such as

- 00:10:187 (2) - This jump is too much, i would forgive it if i were to see more of these kinds of jumps in the map, but since i dont...
- 00:13:703 (1) - Extend it to the next red tick please

Storyboard:

- Storyboard is kinda weird... I dont understand your storyboard at all, Also the image you are using is... Sighs, if i were you i would of just crop the image
- 01:15:828 - No background here? Please note that not everyone is willing to download a map with video neither to play maps with video. And im one of those people

[EyeDrops]
00:18:859 (1) - Too far from the previous note.
00:19:093 (x) - Add a note here
00:21:203 (x) - ^
00:21:906 (x) - ^
00:24:953 (x) - ^
00:26:594 (x) - ^
00:28:469 (x) - Feels empty.
00:34:563 (5,6) - Move these to 00:34:329 respectively, make sure you get the spacing right.
00:35:735 (10,11) - Move these to 00:35:970 respectively, make sure you get the spacing right.
00:35:970 (10) - New combo
00:36:673 (1) - Move this to 00:36:439, make sure you get the spacing right.
00:36:439 (1) - Remove new combo
00:39:251 (3) - New combo
00:39:954 (x) - Add a note here
00:40:892 (x) - ^
00:41:830 (x) - ^
00:43:705 (x) - ^
00:43:939 (x) - ^
00:44:408 (8,9) - Change this set into a slider
00:46:049 (1) - End this spinner on 00:46:986
00:48:393 (5) - Overmapped, remove this note
00:49:330 (1) - Too far from the previous note
00:49:330 (1) - Remove new combo
00:49:565 (x) - Add a note here
00:49:799 (3,4) - Overmapped, remove these notes
00:50:268 (5) - New combo
00:52:377 (x) - Add a note here
00:52:612 (9,10) - Overmapped, remove these notes
00:55:190 (2) - Move this to 00:55:424
00:55:659 (3) - Fix spacing
00:55:893 (4) - Overmapped, remove this note
00:57:065 (x) - Add a note here
00:57:300 (6) - Remove this
00:57:534 (8,9) - Change this set into a slider, and then make it a new combo
00:58:237 (2) - Remove this note
00:58:472 (3) - Move this to 00:58:706
00:59:643 (1) - This slider doesn't synch with anything, it seems.
It ends too suddenly too.

[Naite Iru]
00:06:202 (1,2) - Spacing?
00:14:405 (3) - Too close to the previous note
00:21:202 (4) - New combo
00:21:905 (6) - Too close to the previous note
00:40:420 (3,4,5) - Spacing should be larger between these
00:42:061 (6) - Delete this note
00:48:623 (4) - Too close to the previous note
00:56:123 (4) - Too close to the previous note
00:59:405 (1,2,3) - Spacing should be larger between these
01:09:483 (1,2) - Spacing should be larger between these
01:10:420 (3,4) - ^
01:12:295 (6,7) - ^
I'll stop here for now, there's still many spacing mistakes that could've been easily avoided


Examples of correct spacings, note how the notes are placed on the timeline:



Example of incorrect spacings:


Please review your map.

Ok lets get started, some notes you should remember:

• 
  -Most players on osu! dislike small circles, so the smallest circle size i suggest you use is Normal
  -You should stick with one constant distant spacing in a combo. For example, if you have 8 circles in a combo, they should all be the same distance apart (Use Distance snap + smallest grid size) (When you get more experienced in mapping, you can slightly bend this rule and use different spacings)
  -The distance spacing from an end of a combo to a start of a combo can follow distance spacing, but does not necessarily. It's up to you to decide what makes it more fun
  -For easier difficulties, when you use a spinner, it would be better to leave at least 2 white ticks gap to let the player recover on easy difficulties. For normal 1 white tick is fine. For Hard and Insane, go wild xD but keep it rankable
  -Also, don't put a ridiculously short spinner.. Be sure that the AI gets at least 2000 points on its spin

[EyeDrops]
Suggested difficulty settings

• 
  -HP Drain = 1~3
  -Circle Size = Largest
  -Overall Diff = 1~3
  -Distance Snap = 1.0x
  -Slider Velocity = 1.2

For an easy difficulty, this is way too hard. Its so hard i have to emphasis this point. You could either: rename it to normal, or make it easier. Since x3ns0r seems to be doing a Normal, then i suggest making it easier
Important:

• 
  -You don't have to add a circle to every single distinct sound you hear. For example, 00:02:497 (1,2,3,4) - this part is fine, however 00:04:137 (5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - is much too hard for easy (in my opinion). I would suggest deleting all the circles on red ticks, and leaving the white ones
  -Try getting rid of most of the circles on the red ticks, though you can leave some in. If you really must have a whole line of circles, replace it with a 1/2repeating slider
  -Combo's on easy diff usually do not exceed 8 (for me anyway)
  -Finish the song off lol
  -Don't draw tear drop shapes with circles lol 00:33:903 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - .... If you really must draw teardrops, do it with a slider lol

[Naite Iru]
Suggested Difficulty Settings:

• -Circle Size: Normal, or 1 bigger than normal
  HP Drain: 6
  OD: 7
  Slider Velocity: 1.6
  Distance Snap: 1.0x

This difficulty is much better than EyeDrops, since it's spacing is kind of consistent. For Hard, you could use more circles if you wish since the difficulty is still only around 4. Suitable Difficulties for Hard range from 4.5~5.0. Don't make it too hard though. You can use 1/4snap (Blue ticks) too for triples. They are nice to listen to and fun to play if done correctly. Do not over use them though.

I'll do actual modding and stuff when all the spacing is fixed

Try an offset of 2519

The .osb file says something about Tears.png, yet I don't see anything in the song folder. If you are going to abandon storyboard please delete the .osb file.

I'll mod the individual difficulties later after you fix offset.

Will mod after NoHItter's mod.

Better do that offset fix because it's also the same that I got the last time I modded your map.

Hi

[EyeDrops]
1) This diff need more hitsound
2) Disable the countdown please (Stroyboarding -> Unmark the Enable Countdown)

[Naite Iru]
1) This diff need more hitsound
2) Disable the countdown please (Stroyboarding -> Unmark the Enable Countdown)
01:00:622 (B) - The breaks are too short, remove it?
01:04:372 (B) - ^
01:08:122 (B) - ^

[x3ns0r's Namidaga Tomaranai]
Move all object to previous white tick

GREAT SONG
STAR

alright here is v2 of my diff

Download: Mimu - Tears (AtemiskKun) [x3ns0r's Namidaga Tomaranai].osu

also

here is a fixed OSB cuz your not using any SBing (emptied it)

Download: Mimu - Tears (AtemiskKun).osb

[General]
Use more hitsounds >_>

[EyeDrops]
Circle size -1
00:41:358 (4) - a little too close to 3
00:41:523 (5,6) - stacked wrong
00:42:024 (7) - just a suggestion, make the slider a bit longer so that it fits the music
00:49:422 (1,2) - too far from 7
00:51:933 (8) - stacked wrong
00:57:806 > 01:00:589 - err, just saying, but it's kinda hard even on an easy diff

[Naite Iru]
Circle size -1

well that's it
beautiful song, too :3

here's an example of what i would do in easy. You don;t have to follow it exactly, but something similar should make a good difficulty

Download: Mimu - Tears (AtemiskKun) [example].osu

since u insist...not done yet heres a star for now

edit: doneeeeeeee oh and unzip then put in folder :3
edit2: should be fine now.

Download: muted.zip

Download: Mimu - Tears (AtemiskKun) [test].osu

irc modded.

star'd

delete osb file in folder
use ctrl+shift+A to check for spacing errors
add x3ns0r and simplistiC to tags on all difficulties (and show on map details which map simplistiC created?)

Eyedrops:
I would go through and see where you can add some more notes which sound good
00:04:140 (5) - add note
00:04:843 (7) - add note
00:05:312 (10) - ^
00:05:546 (11) - ^
00:09:296 (4) - ^
00:14:453 (8) - ^
00:18:437 (4,5,1) - spacing
00:22:187 - map something here
00:28:046 (11) - add note
00:38:593 (1) - ^
00:38:828 (2) - ^
00:39:296 (4) - delete
00:40:937 (3,4) - spacing
00:41:640 (5,6,7) - spacing
00:48:671 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4) - spacing
00:55:703 (3,4) - spacing
00:57:578 (7,1) - spacing

Naite Iru:
I don't think I need to point out all the spacing errors (just check on ctrl+shift+A and try to fix everything listed there..distance snap can help too)
00:38:593 (1) - extend by 1/2
00:46:093 (1) - extend by 1/2
00:53:593 (1) - extend by 1/2
01:23:593 (1) - extend by 1/2
01:38:593 (1) - extend by 1/2

x3ns0r:
remove countdown like others
00:12:343 (4,5,6,7) - spacing
00:20:781 (1,3) - align
00:25:000 (5) - new combo
00:26:406 (1) - remove new combo
00:27:109 (2) - stack on the endpoint of 1 and move rest of combo around
00:36:171 (4) - start on nearest red tick, shorten by 1/4 and add a note at 00:36:484
00:43:984 (1) - remove new combo
00:49:609 (1) - remove new combo
00:50:312 (12) - new combo
00:51:718 (1) - remove new combo
00:53:125 (4,5,6) - make the line straight
00:56:406 (5,6,7,8) - spacing
break is too long for a song of this length..map some of it
01:19:375 (1) - remove new combo
01:20:078 (3) - new combo
01:27:578 (6) - new combo

Chi no Namida:
00:42:578 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - odd spacing?

*star*

OK, I fix Eyedrops diff, hope it can help you.

I quit like the song, map seems still need lots of works, but I hope you wont give it up, and get this rank

Star

Download: Mimu - Tears (AtemiskKun) [EyeDrops fix].osu

really good, a few things though

chi no namida

00:42:578 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3) - spacing?

naite iru

00:54:765 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - space 4 5 and 6 further away from 1 2 and 3

eyedrops

this is WAY too hard for an easy difficulty. and the spacing is further than in naite iru. this needs some fixing.

its star-worthy though!

star