This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Montag, 13. Oktober 2008 at 23:38:11

Artist: The Fray
Title: How to Save a Life
BPM: 122
Filesize: 6800kb
Play Time: 03:01
Difficulties Available:

1. How to walk (0,66 stars, 111 notes)
2. How to talk (3,01 stars, 239 notes)
3. mrtn's How to Save a life (4,49 stars, 350 notes)
4. Larto's How to Save a Life (4,7 stars, 393 notes)

Download: The Fray - How to Save a Life
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Hi guys, my 6th beatmap if I'm still able to count... I feel like I'm getting stupid lately... WHATEVER!
Here, one of the greatest songs in history "How to Save a Life"
I submitted it because I'm gonna add difficulties (made by mrtn) and sounds and stuff.

EDIT1: Took DawnII's timing and added mrtn's difficulty (with some minor changes that include one beat and the timing)
EDIT2: Something about the timing was wrong. Fixed that. And "Larto's How to Save a life" now is mapped until the first second break. completely! It's not as easy as you would expect it, so watch out!
EDIT3: Fixed some of the issues MaxwellDemon had with this map. I'll explain in an extra post why not all of them
EDIT4: Ignore my post, I fixed all of the issues. It looks worse now, but at least people won't complain
Moved to pending, because if I'll change something, it will be minor things.^
EDIT5: Yeah, Maxwell, you have to mention them, I'm too lazy to look through my beatmap on my own D:"
EDIT6: Whistle, Finish, Clap.
EDIT7: Yup.
EDIT8: WTFBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMCHANGED OFFSETS!
EDIT9: I DIED FOR THE LULZ

Its already been suggested that you shouldn't map before the drum beat. If you want to follow that suggestion, heres what i believe to be the timing.

BPM: 122

Offset: 24,072

Edit: Because the piano is in time, and the accents fall upon beats, I believe you CAN map before the drum beat. In that case:

BPM: 122

Offset: 430

Let the mods decide on this one.

Why not map before the drum beat? Quite a lot of mappers do that...

Anyway here's my difficulty (which doesn't have mapping before the drums because I don't like mapping such parts).
Please add upload it to the beatmap approval system larto

I've used your timing because it seemed ok (did a quick check and it sounded alright so I decided to map )

Download: The Fray - How to Save a Life (Larto) [mrtn difficulty].osu

I agree, the BPM should be 122. Offset sounds like 480 to me.

How to Talk
01:24:08 (1,1) - Overlapping spinner/slider! Start the spinner 1/8th later, if you want. XD
01:59:98 (3) - Sounds better 1/2th extended
02:22:48 (1) - 1/4th back
02:25:56 (1,1) - Same overlapping problem here XD
02:43:75 (4,1) - And again
02:59:49 (4,1) - Here too~

mtrn's How to Save a Life
02:06:13 (5) - 1/2th forward sounds better~
02:06:87 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - Not that it is not acceptable... but... eh? It feels very out of place for the song
02:22:86 (x) - No beat here?
03:03:43 (x) - The timing section here isn't snapped properly, please turn on the "inherit timing" option in the timing window

Larto's How to Save a Life
00:17:44 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Overlapping on screen... very hard to read.
00:21:13 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Same here~
00:31:70 (5) - Same here
00:33:67 (4) - Okay, this is the last overlapping thing (on the map, not the timeline), I am pointing out. It is absolutely optional if you don't want to change it... but other BATs might disagree with it due to the fact that a lot of players complain about these overlapping sliders~
00:38:34 (1,1) - Last overlapping on the timeline I am mentioning, look at my modding for How to Talk to see how to deal with it~
00:41:29 (4,5,6) - I think a full slider fits better here, but once again, optional
00:43:26 (4,5,6) - Same thing here
01:36:38 (4,5,6) - Again here
01:38:34 (4,5,6) - And here~
*NOTE: These ones only matter if you do decide to apply my change~*
02:58:76 (x) - No note here?

Very good map... but currently devoid of a star unfortunately.
Fix these changes, and I'll come back to it~

Okay, I fixed MOST of the issues, BUT I didn't fix two overlapping sliders. I mean, they're here so your brain isn't turned off fully and, come on, those two sliders aren't hard to see. Cyclone got all of em in his first try. OKAY IT'S CYCLONE. But I had the exactly same problem on ReRicked Insane. FOR THE FIRST TIME I'VE PLAYED IT. If the guys who are complaining about the overlapping sliders play a hard map, do they expect to Full Combo it on the first try?

Do they? Really?

ORLY??

Every hard map has some tricks so it can't be FC'd without some thinking, so, if you don't get distracted by stacks, don't get distracted by overlapping sliders, guys

...Still, if another BAT complains about that, I eventually will have to fix it, but I definitely won't for the moment : P

If you wanna know why I fixed two of the sliders, I thought they'd look better that way D=

It's not really because of that, but it because a slider is absolutely "invisible" when it is underneath another slider. That's why some BATs are against it.

Ignore my post, I fixed it entirely. <.<" As long as people won't complain~

Larto's Insane~
00:53:59 (1,1) - You missed this overlap~ I guess I have to mention them, eh
01:24:82 (1,1) - Here too~
01:48:67 (1,1) - And again~
02:25:56 (7,1) - And again~
02:43:75 (1,1) - And aaagain~

Until then~ no bubble, sorry~

Download: ClariS - Irony (Tiny stone) [caramel].osu

Thanks to Maxwell one more time, I fixed my beatmap

How to talk
No sfx?

How to save a life (Larto)
Same with sfx.

How to save a life (mrtn)
Soft sample set.
Sfx missing.
03:00:72 (6) - 1/2 forward (remember spacing)

UPDATE: All of the above have been addressed. Bubbled!

24102 offset, 122 BPM. All difficulties pls or I will go OCD.

Reserved for modding after the resnap. Starred.

Checked again~
No problem~
Rebubbled. XD

im going to pop this bubble
here's why:

[How to walk]
00:44:75 (5) - spacing (move 1 square left in level 3 grid)
00:45:74 (1) - spacing (move 1 square down in level 3 grid)
01:18:20 (2) - spacing (move 1 square up in level 3 grid)
01:27:05 (1,2,3) - spacing (move these 1 square right in level 3 grid)
01:30:49 (8) - spacing (move 1 square left in level 3 grid)
01:39:83 (5) - spacing (move 1 square right in level 3 grid)
01:40:82 (1) - spacing (move 1 square up in level 3 grid)
02:58:52 (10,11,12) - spacing

[How to talk]
00:11:06 (2,3,4) - spacing
00:20:65 (1,2,3,4) - spacing
01:08:61 (3,4,5) - spacing
01:15:49 (2,3,4,5) - spacing
01:27:54 (1) - spacing (move 1 square left in level 3 grid)
01:31:47 (2) - spacing (move 1 square down + right), then 01:30:98 (1) - move 1 square right
01:38:36 (2,3) - spacing (move "2" 1 square right in level 3 grid)
02:01:23 (4) - spacing (move 1 square down in level 3 grid)
02:04:18 (1,2,3) - spacing (move 1 square up in level 3 grid)
02:15:98 (3,4) - spacing (possible solution: move "3" 1 square left in level 3 grid, and move "4" 1 square right in level 3 grid)
02:38:61 (2) - spacing (move 1 square down in level 3 grid)

[mrtn's How to Save a life]
00:30:74 (3,4,5) - spacing
02:30:74 (3,4,5) - spacing (move "4, 5" 1 square down in level 3 grid)

[Larto's How to Save a Life]
00:29:51 (5) - spacing (move 1 square down in level 3 grid)
00:46:72 (7) - spacing (move 1 square up and 1 square left in level 3 grid)
01:07:13 (3) - spacing (move 1 square right in level 3 grid)
01:13:77 (6,7) - spacing (move 1 square down in level 3 grid)
01:24:83 (1) - extend spinner end to white tick (sounds better); afterward, 01:25:57 (1) - move at least 1/8 away from spinner end (overlap)
01:41:80 (7) - spacing (move 1 square down and 1 square right in level 3 grid)
01:44:02 (4,5,6,1) - spacing (move 1 square down in level 3 grid)
02:05:41 (7,8,9,10) - spacing (move "7" 1 square right in level 3 grid, move "9" 1 square right and 1 square up in level 3 grid, and move "10" 1 square right and 2 squares up in level 3 grid)
02:17:95 (9,1,2) - spacing (move up 1 square in level 3 grid)
02:43:03 (4,5,6) - spacing (move down 1 square in level 3 grid)
02:59:02 (2) - spacing (move down 2 squares in level 3 grid)
02:59:51 (1) - move spinner end to a better location (sounds awkward); possible solutions: 03:09:102, 03:09:347

this is mapped very well, but a lot of things irked me and I was very lenient on spacing
some breaks start late, please re-add them to make sure they are at correct lengths (every difficulty)

also, difficulty names lack proper capitalization
please change to:
[How to Walk]
[How to Talk]
[mrtn's How to Save a Life]
[Larto's How to Save a Life] (already correct)

ok

I thought I should just defend Larto here that I think the spacing is absolutely okay, having played through the map a few times. But this is depending on Larto and whether he thinks he feels justified to fix it. I just feel like throwing my two cents there.

Fixed everything but:


01:08:61 (3,4,5) - spacing <-- What exactly was wrong here? D:

Larto wrote:

01:08:61 (3,4,5) - spacing <-- What exactly was wrong here? D:

apparently nothing as far as I can see (although I have no idea which difficulty you're talking about)

bubble restored

Alright, with that... ranked~

I'll be sure to check this out and see how it plays =)