1. Cup (1.09 stars, 57 notes)
2. Salad (1.47 stars, 60 notes)
3. Truth and Ideals (1.96 stars, 61 notes)

CHANGELOG

8-4-2016 : MAP COMPLETED

8-6-2016: Added salad buffs. + hitsounding

8-10-2016 : Applied Roseus' mod + Updated Metadata + Applied Sinnoh's Mod + maciek0421's mod.

8-11-2016: Applied Myle's mod + kiai time changes

9-7-2016: Applied Sanyi's mod

10-1-2016: Applied MMBan's mod

10-17-16 : Applied Zirox and Realmas' mod. + Updated Hitsounds

10-26-16 : Got a timing fix (finally)

12-10-16: Applied MBomb and sinnoh's metadata change

12-11-16: Applied more metadata changes and got a by - Magic Bomb -

12-12-16: Bubble Popped for metadata, bubble readded

12-16-16: Bubble popped again for more metadata,

12-17-16: mod from AZ and more metadata...

12-18-16: Hitsound mod from AZ, rebubbled!

12-19-16: Qualified by MB

fuck japaneese metadata

RoseusJaeger wrote:

From my lazy modding queue. Let's see what I can do.

General

- Why is “enable countdown” checked and “letter box” checked? There are not breaks in the song for letterboxing and there's not enough lead-in for a coutdown.
- BG is a weird size that isn't proportionally rankable. Make it 1366 x 768.
- Uncheck Widescreen Support on “Salad” and “Truth and Ideals”.

all fixed

Cup

00:02:316 (2) – This is a bit too close to the border, move to X=448. ok
00:05:044 (2) - ^ move to X=64 for better flow as well. k
00:15:953 (2) - ^Again, border stuff. Move to X=464.k
00:19:362 (2,3) – The spacing between these is awkward, it plays better with (3) on X=304. moves to 288
00:23:165 – New combo here so the combo isn't so long that it's unrankable. kk
00:23:165 – I think it should be a ½ reverse slider here instead. nah
00:43:278 (5,1) – I almost had to dash here because of the antiflow, move 00:44:301 (1,2) to X=400 so it's not too hard for new players. idk i just ctrl + h'd it
00:48:392 (1) – Set spinner volume to 5% k

Salad

00:01:294 (1,2) – What even is this spacing, it's large and awkward. Move (2) to X=384.
00:03:339 (3) – Delete, there's nothing here to map.
00:04:021 (1,2) – Same as first bullet, move (2) to X=144.
00:06:066 (3) – Nothing here, delete this.
00:11:521 (2,3) – Why is there an edge dash in a Salad??? Move (3) to X=144. changed in my own way
00:14:248 (2) – I don't hear anything here, delete.
00:14:930 (2) – This is a bit close to the border, move to X=464.
00:15:953 (1) – Move this to X=144 so it's not an edge dash.
00:16:975 (2,3) – This dash is a little harsh, move (3) to X=96. x=80
00:23:165 (1,2,3) – This is hard to catch, move (2) to X=432.
00:25:210 (4,1) – Hard to catch, put (1) on X=336.
00:48:392 (1) – Set spinner volume to 5%.
fixed all but marked
Truth and Ideals

00:01:294 (1,2,3,4,5) – There is no sound on (4) and (5) to map and the h-dash should be at the end of slider (2) to (3). Or it should just be a dash with (3) on X=96. (1) should be on X=208 for better flow.
00:04:021 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ Same issue. Put (2) on X= 192 and (3) on X=480. Delete (4) and (5).
00:12:203 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^ Again. Delete (4) and (5). I'm not gonna bother with spacing.
I rage quit here because I'm tired. I might come back to this, maybe not.

remapped whole section
Good luck.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Quick note: This game is from Black/White, not X/Y, change source.

No kds.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxPOSrr ... nel=Pokeli

im going to leave it as x/y for now i guess untill someone tells me to change it to b/w again

Sinnoh wrote:

First CtB Mod, gonna second that it comes from X/Y, but do add B/W to the tags since it's from that game originally. added

Now that I think on it, it would be better if I waited until after you finished Roseus' mod...
Don't stretch the BG, crop it. Now it just looks weird. i was going to do that eventually. fixed

00:23:165 (1) - On cup, the hitsound is clap. On Salad, no hitsound, on Truth/Ideals, hitsound is whistle. Inconsistent, I think whistle is best. Just go through your map playing spot the difference between hitsounds and for any differences, pick the best one. fixed to whistle

Should make spinners start 1/2 a bar earlier, since there's a gap but it's the same note. Could also make the spinners end one beat later to follow the piano, if you do that also move the 5% volume timings, and add it to truth/ideals too. fixed on all diffs

Salad
00:44:983 (2) - Too far, compare it to the previous two notes. nerfed

Second half of the map has almost no hitsounds fixed

Truths/Ideals
00:02:316 (3) - For these, you could potentially make the start of (3) a circle and the end a long slider. If you apply it to similar combos then it would allow you to have more hyper dashes to regain the lost *s from the next mod. nah

00:13:907 (4,5) - Same thing Roseus brought up earlier, apply it to the rest of the map. done

00:16:975 (5,6) - Swap hitsound done?

00:17:657 (6) - NC done

00:29:983 (4,5,6) - Sounds really bad although it is a bit ambitious i think that these guys sound fine.

00:35:437 (6,1) - Swap hitsound fixed
00:47:710 (5) - Potentially add whistle. done for all diffs

maciek0421 wrote:

Hi! I think that previous mods changed bad parts of your map. I will write you what I would make different.

Cup

00:21:748 (1,2,3,4) - I would dismiss that notes a little bit to make it "harder?" made it harder if thats what you said
00:25:892 (2,3,4) - ^^^^^ ^
00:48:051 (1) - You can make that spinner longer. I think that 3 "ticks" will be great ok fine. done for all diffs..

Salad

00:10:839 (1,2) - You should avoid vertical sliders. tilted a bit
00:21:748 (1,2,3,4) - It's great part to create left-right jumps. remapped it to be a bit harder
00:48:051 (1) - Longer spinner (same in the Cup)

Truth and Ideals

For me that is perfect level. I would change only spinner length (like Cup and Salad).
You should to increase combo how much you can.

It isn't professional mod but I told you what I would change.
Bye!

1. 00:42:255 (4) - missing NC?
2. 00:44:301 (1,2) - wowie, decrease the distance here, it's really hard to catch without using a dash
3. 00:44:301 (1,2) - ^

1. 00:01:294 (1,2) - increase the distance between them
2. 00:12:203 (3) => x80
3. 00:23:165 (1) => x80
4. 00:44:301 (1,2) - increase the distance a little bit between them

1. 00:07:430 (2) - there's no any sound and you haven't used this for any pattern, so delete it
2. 00:08:112 (3) - make this 1/2 slider and hear, how it fits really well
3. 00:18:339 (2) - no any sound or pattern, you even hitsounded this, delete it
4. 00:29:642 (3) => x448

Myle wrote:

hi I'm here
try 1260 offest, dunno, the whole map fells not right timed this sounds a bit too early... i still dont know though if my timings right either
[Cup]

1. 00:42:255 (4) - missing NC? i thought about it but i came to the conclusion of no.
2. 00:44:301 (1,2) - wowie, decrease the distance here, it's really hard to catch without using a dash nerfed a little
3. 00:44:301 (1,2) - ^ ??? thats the same thing you suggested lol

[Salad]
it's possible to SS this without using dash, so there's some suggestion about this: #BLAMEROSEUS

1. 00:01:294 (1,2) - increase the distance between them did for all
2. 00:12:203 (3) => x80 remapped in a diff way.
3. 00:23:165 (1) => x80 ok
4. 00:44:301 (1,2) - increase the distance a little bit between themnah

[Truth and Ideals]

1. 00:07:430 (2) - there's no any sound and you haven't used this for any pattern, so delete it k
2. 00:08:112 (3) - make this 1/2 slider and hear, how it fits really well k but im not going to like it :/
3. 00:18:339 (2) - no any sound or pattern, you even hitsounded this, delete it remapped
4. 00:29:642 (3) => x448 nah

Sanyi4Life wrote:

I am modding this because I like the song.

Kudosu only when the mod is helpful!

General

Tags:
- the word "and" is in the tags twice, I don't know if it makes any difference to delete it once, but when not you should delete "and" once.
- please add "x/y" to Truth and Ideals and "b/w" + "x/y" to Cup did it

The offset seems to be fine in my opinion, but I want to hear the opinions of others here to confirm that. thanks for the input

I would put the Kiai time from 00:23:165 - 00:44:301, but thats only my personal opinion. i think its fine imo

Audio:
- Kiai 50%
- Spinner 5%
- Everything else 35% yea this is fair, i really hit sound this to carefully.

Does the Inherited Point at 00:23:116 have any function? When not it can be deleted. good catch

Cup

Hitsounds:
- add Whistle to 00:02:657 00:05:384 00:09:475 00:13:566 00:16:294 00:20:384 00:32:028 00:43:619 fixed all
- remove Whistle from 00:08:794 00:23:165 got rid of the first one.

New Combo:
- 00:12:203 (3) - NC
- 00:13:225 (1) - remove NC
- 00:25:210 (1) - remove NC
- 00:25:892 (2) - NC
- 00:30:665 (1) - remove NC
- 00:46:346 (1) - remove NC

redid combos.

Pattern:
- 00:11:521 (2) - decrease the distance to x:464, it is kinda hard to get this without dashing for new players
- 00:23:505 (2) - same issue here, put it to x:48
nerfed.

Salad

Hitsounds:
- add Whistle to 00:20:384 00:38:846 fixed first one. not the rest.
- remove Whistle from 00:39:528

New Combo:
- 00:13:225 (1) - remove NC
- 00:14:930 (2) - NC
- 00:15:953 (1) - remove NC
- 00:17:657 (2) - NC
- 00:19:362 (1) - remove NC
- 00:36:801 (4) - NC
- 00:38:846 (1) - remove NC
redid combos
Pattern:
It is still to easy in my opinion - here are possible points where you can increase the distance:
- 00:08:794 (3) -
- 00:21:748 (1,2,3,4) -
- 00:25:210 (4) -
- 00:27:937 (4) -
- 00:31:346 (5) -
- 00:32:710 (1,2,3,4) -
- 00:38:846 (1) -
- 00:41:574 (4) -
- 00:47:028 (4) -
O.o.. slighty buffed the map.

Truth and Ideals

Hitsounds:
- add Whistle to 00:03:339 00:06:066 00:10:157 00:20:384 did all
- remove Whistle from 00:41:574 this ones fine.

New Combo:
- 00:36:119 (1) - remove NC
- 00:36:801 (2) - NC

Pattern:
- you could add a note to 00:14:248 and 00:16:975 - since it is the last diff of the mapset it could be a bit more dense. But when you add these notes please add Whistle to these notes too. i got flamed by adding notes in places where there are no sound :/ i would if i could trust me.
- 00:47:028 (4) - maybe increase the distance a bit? buffed

I like this mapset! The pattern are good and it is calming to play this mapset

MMBan wrote:

Requested

Cup
Passable without dash.

00:11:562 (2) - Somewhat i think its too far. x456 fixed
00:22:574 (2,3) - 2 x76 . 3 x200 remapped spacing

Nothing else

Salad

No issues.. For weird reason..

Truth and Ideas
00:34:074 (3) - Strong sound there. Make hdash to that note.. don't forget to move next slider a bit closer to prevent pixel jump remapped

1. 00:27:255 - Create an HD here, it works well. I tested x:464 for 00:27:255 and x:64 for 00:27:596 and I find it nice.
2. 00:41:574 - If you can space more, it would be better to play : try x:64, and for the slider after, try to move it to x:160.

1. You should get help with timing. If you hear 00:02:357 (2) - on 25% playback rate, you can notice this is like 45~50 ms delayed, although I think that's not constant, so it's not a simple offset change (blame piano).

1. 00:10:880 (1,2,1) - This is far too spaced for a Cup. I know it can be catched without dashing at all, but for a Cup it's too much. Reduce the distance
2. 00:23:505 (2,3) - Again, even though it's walkable, I'd reduce the distance a bit since this is a Cup.
3. 00:32:710 (1,2,3) - ^Same on this, I'd reduce the distance a bit.
4. 00:40:210 (1,2) - And same thing on this. I would put (2) on x:416 or x:424.
5. 00:44:301 (1,2) - Same here, I'd put (2) on x:240 or 248.

1. 00:01:335 (1,2) - 00:04:062 (1,2) - I'd reduce the distance in each pattern, as they can be easily confused by needing a dash by newer players.
2. 00:08:153 (2,3,4) - This distance isn't that easily walkable and players don't react that fast at this level, so I'd reduce the distance. Putting (3) on x:176 feels better.
3. 00:10:880 (1,2,3) - Instead of having equal distances before and after (2), you could decrease the distance to (2) and increase the distance to (3) to emphasize the stronger piano at 00:12:244 -. Maybe you could do something like:
   
   SPOILER

   
4. 00:14:971 (1,2) - Same to 00:01:335 (1,2) -, I'd reduce this distance because it can be confused as needing a dash.
5. 00:19:403 (2,3) - Again, this distance can be easily confused as requiring a dash. There's also a strong piano at 00:20:425 - that feels really underemphasized the way it is now, so I'd suggest you split 00:20:085 (3) - into two circles and put the first one closer to (2) and create a dash between both circles.
6. 00:21:789 (1,2,3,4,1) - Hardly walkable pattern, so it may be easy to miss. And if you intended it to require small dashes, it would be wrong too. I'd reduce the distance between 00:21:789 (1,2,3,4) - and create a dash between 00:22:812 (4,1) - . One way to do it would be, for example, this:
   
   SPOILER

   
7. 00:32:710 (1,2,3,4,1) - The same thing happens here, so I'd do something similar.

1. 00:01:335 (1,2,3) - This is blatantly overmapped, as you have four 1/2 sounds when actually there are only 2 sounds in the music. To make it worse you have a dash to a non-existant beat at 00:01:335 (1,2) -
2. 00:04:062 (1,2,3) - Same here
3. 00:12:244 (1,2,3) - Same here. In this case you're adding an HDash between a non-existant beat and another sound 00:12:925 (2,3) - , which is completely wrong.
4. 00:14:971 (1,2,3) - And same
5. 00:24:869 (3) - There's no sound here, so this object should be removed.
6. 00:27:255 (3,4) - Merge into a single 1/1 slider. There's no distinct individual sound in the red tick.
7. 00:29:983 (4,5,6) - Extending sliders to non-existant sounds just to get an HDash is a no to me.
8. 00:35:437 (6,1,2) - As 1/1 spacings these could have a larger distance to emphasize those strong piano sounds. Maybe you can move (1) to the right a bit and Ctrl+H (2).
9. 00:38:846 (5,1) - This should have a larger distance, in order to emphasize the downbeat at 00:39:528 - . One option would be to Ctrl+H 00:39:528 (1) - .
10. 00:46:346 (3,4,5) - These are too spaced, the song is already ending so the dashes don't really fit here. I'd reduce the distances.