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Tshemmp
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Poggo wrote:

hi~~ :)

• 00:22:203 - this 3 notes looks a bit strange. Remove nc here or make it more jumpy for nc meh, I like it
• 00:24:703 and 00:35:366 - this triples looks very bad. I think need more distance between notes I mean between 7 and 8 notes. It will more readable for play as here 00:37:866 - looks good ok done
• 00:42:364 - this notes looks boooring make this http://puu.sh/lJ572.jpg I like both versions! but ok, changed
• 00:43:364 - this need more jumpy too or remove nc nah
• 00:48:696 - same ^ same ^
• 01:38:516 - put note 4 x200 y336 jump feets better here okay
• 01:50:596 - add note here. If u make 1 tripple here 01:48:429 then make it here too no, I have a triplet at 01:48:429 - because of the drums, but the music is different at 01:50:596 -
• 01:53:261 - add note/ tripple feets better not in the music
• 01:55:927 - same ^ same ^
• 03:02:658 - I think will better put slider 1 on x304 y 200 for better jump between notes done
• And the same identical problems on all map

Hitsounds are good~ About patterns... I think u can make it more interesting that now >.< Boring identical patterns ;w; I wrote only what I really don't like and I hope U'll make i better :3 Good luck
Thank you very much.
Poggo
oh god Tshemmp my moe <3 I trought I mod Phaz' map D: He asked e about it ._. /me hugs
Topic Starter
Tshemmp
Haha it's okay :D :3
Krimek
phaZ called me, how is it going? o/
These are more or less rythmical problems that you should better fix. Can't tell you much about placement since I suck at judging it.
Towards the end there is less explaining since most of all are the same problems.
[Insane]
  1. 00:22:370 (2,3) - Should be a tripple.
  2. 00:24:786 (9) - It's placed too late. It should be at 00:24:758 - , 1/6 after (8). I'd suggest you to remove (9) or replace (8) with a 1/6 short slider.
  3. 00:27:452 (9) - Why tripple? There is no sound on it.
  4. 00:27:785 - Place circle?
  5. 00:43:447 (2) - No sound, remove it.
  6. 00:43:614 - Now this is where you place a circle.
  7. 00:45:030 - It's pretty quiet, but I wouldn't ignore that sound so please add a circle.
  8. 00:45:447 - Add circle?
  9. 00:46:197 (9) - It should already end on the red tick imo so you don't ignore that sound and you can make 00:46:530 - clickable.
  10. 00:49:113 - Add circle. The drums are 5 hits, not just a tripple.
  11. 00:50:362 (3) - This slider does not feel right to me. I wouldn't ignore the drum on 00:50:529 - either.
  12. 00:53:528 - Why you ignore the drums on the big white tick and so on? The stream should be obviously 9 circles long.
  13. 01:15:605 - Missing circle.
  14. 01:00:026 (1,2,3,4) - I know it's on purpose that you did not map the guitar, but I would suggest you to add circles there. It's the most essential part of the song (hope I said ir right lol), would be kinda lame if it stays like this.. I could imagine a jumpy pattern for this. Same with 01:11:356 (3,4,5,6) - and so on.
  15. 01:14:855 - and 01:15:189 - Please don't ignore it. So loud drums, you can't unhear it.
  16. 01:16:022 (12) - How about a long slider? Would work out pretty good imo.
  17. 01:53:095 - Add circle?
  18. 01:59:760 (3) - should be placed on 01:59:787 - and 02:00:426 (6) - should be placed on 02:00:454 - (1/6 tact).
  19. 02:01:093 - There is no sound on it. Place it 1/4 later so it makes sense. Also I would suggest you to space it more since otherwise you will missread the circle.
  20. 02:07:757 (5) - should be placed on 02:07:785 - and 02:08:424 (8) - should be placed on 02:08:451 - (1/6 tact again).
  21. 02:14:089 (9) - Can't hear anything there. Please remove the circle.
  22. 02:14:422 - Add circle.
  23. 02:19:753 - ^
  24. 02:30:085 (2) - Remove circle.
  25. 02:30:251 - Add circle.
  26. 02:32:083 - ^
  27. 02:35:749 - ^
  28. 02:40:164 - Same as 00:53:528 -
  29. 03:06:658 (5,6) - This flows realy bad imo. Maybe do something like this?
  30. 03:07:657 (8) - I would space it since it's a loud sound.
  31. 03:07:991 (1) - The slider should actually end already on the big white tick since the stream already starts there. Also add a circle on 03:08:240 - than.
  32. 03:11:906 - I would add a circle and connect the next slider with the stream.
  33. 03:18:654 (1,2) - Switch NCs.
  34. 03:20:820 (14) - Why is this so spaced? Also maybe rotate it 180° so it flows to the direction of 03:21:154 (15) - ?
  35. 03:59:143 (2,3,4,5,6) - The pattern kinda takes the movement away... Something like 03:48:479 (2,3,4,5) - works out way better imo.
  36. 04:06:224 - Add circle.
  37. 04:06:391 - ^
  38. 04:07:058 (2) - Can't hear any sound on it. Pleace remove.
  39. 04:08:391 (7) - ^
  40. 04:11:723 (8) - ^
  41. 04:11:972 (1) - The upcoming stream should already start here.
  42. 04:20:804 (3) - Strg + G, otherways it plays awkward.
  43. 04:34:633 (6,7) - Nice sliders. But I think a stream would be way better :p
  44. 04:56:876 - Add circle
  45. 04:57:043 - ^
  46. 04:59:792 (3,4) - There is actually nothing that supports these circles. Remove it pls.
That's probably it. I know that you sometimes prefered to map the main melody instead of the drums (streams). But sometimes you did and sometimes you didn't. I'd suggest you to stay consistant through the map.
Hope it was helpful!
Stjpa
M4M with phuzzy


• 00:16:872 (7,8,9) - Du hast bisher immer exakt das gleiche gemappt mit gleichem DS etc, aber hier hast du aus welchem Grund auch immer einen viel höheren DS trotz gleichem Sound verwendet. Und danach gehts halt wieder mit 1,5x weiter.
• 00:48:529 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - Solche DS Changes spielen sich imo sehr weird, wenns weiterhin in die selbe Richtung geht.
• 01:00:693 (3,4,5) - Map eher Slider auf den weißen Ticks. Hört sich auf diese Weise extrem komisch an, da die Gitarre doch schon ziemlich dominant ist.
• 01:11:356 (3,4,5) - ^
• 01:16:022 (11) - NC evtl. schon hier?
• 01:33:850 (6,1) - Die berühren sich.
• 01:34:183 (7,8,9) - Haben ebenfalls größeres Spacing verglichen zu dem Rest.
• 01:38:682 (5) - NC wäre hier auch schon machbar, weil hier der Sound etwas lauter wird.
• 01:41:348 (5) - ^
• 01:44:014 (5) - ^ usw, will jetzt nicht alles unnötig rausholen, da du eh weißt was ich meine.
• 01:49:346 (6) - Hab zwar die Vermutung, dass dieser Slider mit Absicht den gleichen Shape hat wie (4), aber ich denke es würde einfach viel besser aussehen, wenn hier der Shape stärker wäre.
• 01:53:345 (1,2) - Blanket ist etwas unsauber.
• 01:55:511 (7,8,9) - Warum eskaliert hier der DS so stark? Hört sich imo genauso an wie alles andere davor.
• 02:00:010 (4,7) - Evtl NC damit man den Polarity Change besser merkt?
• 02:05:091 (3) - Bin mir sicher, dass er eigtl. auf den White Tick sollte.
• 02:05:341 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Würde mir wünschen, wenn die "Bögen" etwas stärker wären, damit es besser zur Musik passt.
• 02:06:090 (13,1) - Overlap intended?
• 02:08:007 (6) - NC wegen Polarity Change?
• 02:27:669 (8,2,3) - Minor Thing: Man sieht den Overlap zwar nicht, aber der fällt etwas auf. Lass (3) wenn dann einfach genauso wenig an den Slider dran wie (2), oder andersrum. Falls das denn überhaupt irgendwie möglich ist. Wäre halt auf diese Weise ein nettes Rechteck. D:
• 02:32:001 (5) - Würde hier persönlich nen NC verwenden. Sound ist anders, sudden DS Change bla.
• 02:37:499 (4,5,6,7) - Evtl ein Zick-Zack in die linke Richtung und so positionieren, dass man nen starken Richtungswechsel auf die Circles danach hat? Dann wirken die Jumps weniger weird bzw sind nicht ganz so weird zu moven. Hab mich vermutlich beschissen ausgedrückt, soz. D:
• 02:45:164 (4,7) - Stack? (8) kannst du ja etwas weiter nach links verschieben, damit es noch mit dem Slider passt vom Platz her. Außer du willst die 2 unbedingt übereinander haben. <.<
• 02:47:163 (2,3,4,5) - Wie oben auch schon, wäre einfach viel besser irgendwas mit Slidern auf den White Ticks zu machen.
• 02:54:661 (1,3) - (1) passt irgendwie so gar nicht in die Map, und berührt sich außerdem auch mit (3).
• 02:57:827 (2,3,4,5) - bla
• 03:13:073 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Sollte imo genau andersrum sein. Die Musik ist am Anfang more intense, demnach sollte da das Spacing größer sein.
• 03:18:654 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Sehr unschön mit so hohen Combos, wäre nicht schlecht wenn du dir da irgendwas einfallen lässt. D:
• 03:38:982 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - Etwas Movement hier wäre sehr nice, den Platz dafür hast du eigentlich auch.
• 03:41:981 (6,7) - Blanket ist nicht ganz sauber.
• 03:46:647 (6) - NC?
• 03:51:145 (2,3,4,5) - Wie am Anfang auch schon.
• 04:01:809 (2,3,4,5) - ^

Also imo solltest du dir die ganzen NCs noch anschauen und überlegen, wo du mehr einbauen könntest, besonders am Ende, weil die ziemlich oft über 10 gehen was mMn sehr schlecht aussieht. Just my opinion though.
Topic Starter
Tshemmp
Krimek

Krimek wrote:

phaZ called me, how is it going? o/
These are more or less rythmical problems that you should better fix. Can't tell you much about placement since I suck at judging it.
Towards the end there is less explaining since most of all are the same problems.
[Insane]
  1. 00:22:370 (2,3) - Should be a tripple. I am not following the drums there but the "main instrument" (don't know the name lol)
  2. 00:24:786 (9) - It's placed too late. It should be at 00:24:758 - , 1/6 after (8). I'd suggest you to remove (9) or replace (8) with a 1/6 short slider. uuhh suuure?? if anything it's 1/8, right, and that plays so bad
  3. 00:27:452 (9) - Why tripple? There is no sound on it. okay
  4. 00:27:785 - Place circle? no
  5. 00:43:447 (2) - No sound, remove it. okay
  6. 00:43:614 - Now this is where you place a circle. uh okay
  7. 00:45:030 - It's pretty quiet, but I wouldn't ignore that sound so please add a circle. no I like a much more now
  8. 00:45:447 - Add circle? okay
  9. 00:46:197 (9) - It should already end on the red tick imo so you don't ignore that sound and you can make 00:46:530 - clickable. okay
  10. 00:49:113 - Add circle. The drums are 5 hits, not just a tripple. well okay
  11. 00:50:362 (3) - This slider does not feel right to me. I wouldn't ignore the drum on 00:50:529 - either. nah
  12. 00:53:528 - Why you ignore the drums on the big white tick and so on? The stream should be obviously 9 circles long. okay
  13. 01:15:605 - Missing circle. ..no, the drum the triplet is mapped to doesn't play there
  14. 01:00:026 (1,2,3,4) - I know it's on purpose that you did not map the guitar, but I would suggest you to add circles there. It's the most essential part of the song (hope I said ir right lol), would be kinda lame if it stays like this.. I could imagine a jumpy pattern for this. Same with 01:11:356 (3,4,5,6) - and so on. mmhh changed
  15. 01:14:855 - and 01:15:189 - Please don't ignore it. So loud drums, you can't unhear it. apperantly my headset has a very weak bass
  16. 01:16:022 (12) - How about a long slider? Would work out pretty good imo. well okay
  17. 01:53:095 - Add circle? okay
  18. 01:59:760 (3) - should be placed on 01:59:787 - and 02:00:426 (6) - should be placed on 02:00:454 - (1/6 tact). right
  19. 02:01:093 - There is no sound on it. Place it 1/4 later so it makes sense. Also I would suggest you to space it more since otherwise you will missread the circle. mh okay
  20. 02:07:757 (5) - should be placed on 02:07:785 - and 02:08:424 (8) - should be placed on 02:08:451 - (1/6 tact again). yes
  21. 02:14:089 (9) - Can't hear anything there. Please remove the circle. done
  22. 02:14:422 - Add circle. no
  23. 02:19:753 - ^ mh okay
  24. 02:30:085 (2) - Remove circle. okay
  25. 02:30:251 - Add circle. oookay
  26. 02:32:083 - ^ okay
  27. 02:35:749 - ^ okay
  28. 02:40:164 - Same as 00:53:528 - okay
  29. 03:06:658 (5,6) - This flows realy bad imo. Maybe do something like this? nah, I like the current movement
  30. 03:07:657 (8) - I would space it since it's a loud sound. nah
  31. 03:07:991 (1) - The slider should actually end already on the big white tick since the stream already starts there. Also add a circle on 03:08:240 - than. yeah
  32. 03:11:906 - I would add a circle and connect the next slider with the stream. the break fits imo
  33. 03:18:654 (1,2) - Switch NCs. why
  34. 03:20:820 (14) - Why is this so spaced? Also maybe rotate it 180° so it flows to the direction of 03:21:154 (15) - ? everything intended
  35. 03:59:143 (2,3,4,5,6) - The pattern kinda takes the movement away... Something like 03:48:479 (2,3,4,5) - works out way better imo. I want some variety, not always everything the same
  36. 04:06:224 - Add circle. no
  37. 04:06:391 - ^ no
  38. 04:07:058 (2) - Can't hear any sound on it. Pleace remove. guitar vibrato
  39. 04:08:391 (7) - ^ ^
  40. 04:11:723 (8) - ^ ^
  41. 04:11:972 (1) - The upcoming stream should already start here. yeah but the stream is just a short intermezzo, still following mainly the main instrument, that's why I also already end the stream 04:13:639 (11) -
  42. 04:20:804 (3) - Strg + G, otherways it plays awkward. no no no no it's perfect zigzag mirror movement now
  43. 04:34:633 (6,7) - Nice sliders. But I think a stream would be way better :p nah
  44. 04:56:876 - Add circle okay
  45. 04:57:043 - ^ okay
  46. 04:59:792 (3,4) - There is actually nothing that supports these circles. Remove it pls. okay
That's probably it. I know that you sometimes prefered to map the main melody instead of the drums (streams). But sometimes you did and sometimes you didn't. I'd suggest you to stay consistant through the map.
Hope it was helpful!
Man, I feel like I am destroying everything I liked about my map, but I can't deny you because you use logic.
Thank you very much.

Stjpa

Stjpa wrote:

M4M with phuzzy


• 00:16:872 (7,8,9) - Du hast bisher immer exakt das gleiche gemappt mit gleichem DS etc, aber hier hast du aus welchem Grund auch immer einen viel höheren DS trotz gleichem Sound verwendet. Und danach gehts halt wieder mit 1,5x weiter. weil es sonst nicht vom Placement her gepasst hätte/hässlich aussehen würde, hab's geändert aber naja
• 00:48:529 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - Solche DS Changes spielen sich imo sehr weird, wenns weiterhin in die selbe Richtung geht. seh kein Problem
• 01:00:693 (3,4,5) - Map eher Slider auf den weißen Ticks. Hört sich auf diese Weise extrem komisch an, da die Gitarre doch schon ziemlich dominant ist. find das andere Instrument noch dominanter
• 01:11:356 (3,4,5) - ^ ^
• 01:16:022 (11) - NC evtl. schon hier? okay
• 01:33:850 (6,1) - Die berühren sich. hm okay
• 01:34:183 (7,8,9) - Haben ebenfalls größeres Spacing verglichen zu dem Rest. geändert
• 01:38:682 (5) - NC wäre hier auch schon machbar, weil hier der Sound etwas lauter wird. ich mach NC eigentlich nur alle 2 Takte
• 01:41:348 (5) - ^ ^
• 01:44:014 (5) - ^ usw, will jetzt nicht alles unnötig rausholen, da du eh weißt was ich meine. ^ jo
• 01:49:346 (6) - Hab zwar die Vermutung, dass dieser Slider mit Absicht den gleichen Shape hat wie (4), aber ich denke es würde einfach viel besser aussehen, wenn hier der Shape stärker wäre. okay
• 01:53:345 (1,2) - Blanket ist etwas unsauber. fixed?
• 01:55:511 (7,8,9) - Warum eskaliert hier der DS so stark? Hört sich imo genauso an wie alles andere davor. weil jemand wollte, dass ich da scharfe Jumps einbaue statt das Lineare was ich davor hatte, und das ist wohl aus Versehen dabei rausgekommen
• 02:00:010 (4,7) - Evtl NC damit man den Polarity Change besser merkt? auf (4) und (7)? würde mich ehrlich gesagt mehr verwirren als mir helfen
• 02:05:091 (3) - Bin mir sicher, dass er eigtl. auf den White Tick sollte. ne ist schon richtig so
• 02:05:341 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Würde mir wünschen, wenn die "Bögen" etwas stärker wären, damit es besser zur Musik passt. okay
• 02:06:090 (13,1) - Overlap intended? der war mir vollkommen egal lol, passt ins Pattern rein und ist eigentlich genug Zeit dazwischen
• 02:08:007 (6) - NC wegen Polarity Change? ne
• 02:27:669 (8,2,3) - Minor Thing: Man sieht den Overlap zwar nicht, aber der fällt etwas auf. Lass (3) wenn dann einfach genauso wenig an den Slider dran wie (2), oder andersrum. Falls das denn überhaupt irgendwie möglich ist. Wäre halt auf diese Weise ein nettes Rechteck. D: und dadurch würde ich mein sichtbares folgende Pattern kaputt machen :c
• 02:32:001 (5) - Würde hier persönlich nen NC verwenden. Sound ist anders, sudden DS Change bla. disagree
• 02:37:499 (4,5,6,7) - Evtl ein Zick-Zack in die linke Richtung und so positionieren, dass man nen starken Richtungswechsel auf die Circles danach hat? Dann wirken die Jumps weniger weird bzw sind nicht ganz so weird zu moven. Hab mich vermutlich beschissen ausgedrückt, soz. D: verstanden
• 02:45:164 (4,7) - Stack? (8) kannst du ja etwas weiter nach links verschieben, damit es noch mit dem Slider passt vom Platz her. Außer du willst die 2 unbedingt übereinander haben. <.< okay
• 02:47:163 (2,3,4,5) - Wie oben auch schon, wäre einfach viel besser irgendwas mit Slidern auf den White Ticks zu machen. nah
• 02:54:661 (1,3) - (1) passt irgendwie so gar nicht in die Map, und berührt sich außerdem auch mit (3). finde das ist so ein schöner Übergang in die nächsten Slider; das Berührungsproblem hab ich aber gefixed? maybe idk
• 02:57:827 (2,3,4,5) - bla blub
• 03:13:073 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Sollte imo genau andersrum sein. Die Musik ist am Anfang more intense, demnach sollte da das Spacing größer sein. die waren eigentlich als Einleitung gedacht, deswegen enger
• 03:18:654 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Sehr unschön mit so hohen Combos, wäre nicht schlecht wenn du dir da irgendwas einfallen lässt. D: seit wann hat man was gegen hohe Combos :O
• 03:38:982 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - Etwas Movement hier wäre sehr nice, den Platz dafür hast du eigentlich auch. okay
• 03:41:981 (6,7) - Blanket ist nicht ganz sauber. ein wahrer deutscher Nazi wie er leibt und lebt :^) (kA ob's jetzt merklich besser ist)
• 03:46:647 (6) - NC? eh
• 03:51:145 (2,3,4,5) - Wie am Anfang auch schon. jah
• 04:01:809 (2,3,4,5) - ^ ^

Also imo solltest du dir die ganzen NCs noch anschauen und überlegen, wo du mehr einbauen könntest, besonders am Ende, weil die ziemlich oft über 10 gehen was mMn sehr schlecht aussieht. Just my opinion though. die Meinung teile ich nicht
Vielen Dank.
Myxo
As requested by phaZ~

  1. 00:50:862 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - I'm not really a fan of the spacing in this pattern. You have been using 1.5x spacing for intense transitions before, which is not the case here 00:51:529 (8,9,10,1) - . The instrument is rather intense for the whole pattern though, which is why I would use 1.5x spacing for all the circles. Maybe you could make these 00:51:529 (8,9) - stacked to follow the pitch. What would you think about something like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4143991
  2. 01:11:357 (3,4,5,6) - The jumps seem quite big here compared to the rest of the section and the positions of the sliders seem quite random to me. I can't come up with a suggestion though, maybe you still think of a better pattern.
  3. 01:15:355 - This beat needs some kind of hitsound-emphasis, a finish or atleast a whistle I'd say.
  4. 01:16:022 - I would recommend to increase the hitsound volume for this beat, as it's currently covered by the music.
  5. 01:37:266 (10) - Kinda overmapped circle, I would suggest to delete it as you left these out properly later in the map.
  6. 01:59:510 to 02:02:842 - Those red Timing points are completely unnecessary. Your rhythm is oriented on the guitar and the guitar's timing fluncuates, BUT the rhythm would play and sound a lot better when it's simplified to the rhythm of the drums. You will see below what I mean, but for that, delete those Timing points.
Snapping suggestions
  1. 01:59:510 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - You can snap them to 1/4 like so: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4144140 I would recommend you to place NCs on 02:00:176 - 02:00:843 - to make the rhythms more readable, because the New Combos will tell the player to read after Approach Circles to not confuse the 1/2-gaps with 3/4-gaps.
  2. 02:01:343 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - The best simplification here would be a combination of 1/4 and 1/3-snap: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4144159
  3. 02:02:842 (8,9,10) - You can snap these on 1/4: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4144166
  4. 02:07:507 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - This can also be snapped to simple 1/4. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4144344 02:08:174 - I would add a New Combo here for the same reason as above - It makes the rhythm change more readable. 02:08:424 - I have suggested a double here because the instrument is (approximately) on the blue tick but the white tick has the strong cymbal sound. In case you use the suggested rhythm, be careful that the spacings make sense and are readable.
  5. These suggestions will help the section to be more readable and playable, they will also sound better when playing. Be careful with the hitsounding and check for unsnapped objects!
  1. 02:32:834 (8) - Ctrl+G for a slightly better flow?
  2. 02:47:996 (5,6) - Quite a huge jump out of nowhere. I would atleast move (5) a bit closer, like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4144396
  3. 03:16:405 (2,3,4,5,6) - This was very confusing to play. The rhythm itself doesn't make sense, I think you were trying to follow the high-pitched guitar but it is actually on the red ticks. The hitsounding is what really made this confusing to play though, because the slidertails (not clickable) provide much more hitsound feedback to the player than the clickable sliderheads. I would highly recommend you to change the rhythm here and have the hitsounds on the sliderheads instead!
  4. 04:22:637 (1,2) - Try to keep the hitsound volume higher for these objects.
  5. 04:25:303 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Great pattern!
  6. 04:27:968 - I feel like this whole section needs higher hitsound volume.
  7. 04:59:460 (1,2) - Hmm, in my opinion there should be a jump between these circles to create a nice finish. Maybe you could arrange it like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4144503
Overall I love this map! It's great that your style didn't change since 2012, such a nice throwback map. The only things that really need work is that one pattern and the section with the timing issues. The rest is just suggestions. Good luck!
You can call me after a few more mods!
Topic Starter
Tshemmp
SPOILER

Desperate-kun wrote:

As requested by phaZ~

  1. 00:50:862 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - I'm not really a fan of the spacing in this pattern. You have been using 1.5x spacing for intense transitions before, which is not the case here 00:51:529 (8,9,10,1) - . The instrument is rather intense for the whole pattern though, which is why I would use 1.5x spacing for all the circles. Maybe you could make these 00:51:529 (8,9) - stacked to follow the pitch. What would you think about something like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4143991 oaky, but I did it slightly different
  2. 01:11:357 (3,4,5,6) - The jumps seem quite big here compared to the rest of the section and the positions of the sliders seem quite random to me. I can't come up with a suggestion though, maybe you still think of a better pattern. changed
  3. 01:15:355 - This beat needs some kind of hitsound-emphasis, a finish or atleast a whistle I'd say. simply forgot, done
  4. 01:16:022 - I would recommend to increase the hitsound volume for this beat, as it's currently covered by the music.
  5. 01:37:266 (10) - Kinda overmapped circle, I would suggest to delete it as you left these out properly later in the map. okay
  6. 01:59:510 to 02:02:842 - Those red Timing points are completely unnecessary. Your rhythm is oriented on the guitar and the guitar's timing fluncuates, BUT the rhythm would play and sound a lot better when it's simplified to the rhythm of the drums. You will see below what I mean, but for that, delete those Timing points. yeah
Snapping suggestions
  1. 01:59:510 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - You can snap them to 1/4 like so: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4144140 I had it like this before, don't know what really happened lol I would recommend you to place NCs on 02:00:176 - 02:00:843 - to make the rhythms more readable, because the New Combos will tell the player to read after Approach Circles to not confuse the 1/2-gaps with 3/4-gaps. done
  2. 02:01:343 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - The best simplification here would be a combination of 1/4 and 1/3-snap: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4144159 okay
  3. 02:02:842 (8,9,10) - You can snap these on 1/4: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4144166 done
  4. 02:07:507 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - This can also be snapped to simple 1/4. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4144344 02:08:174 - done I would add a New Combo here for the same reason as above - It makes the rhythm change more readable. done 02:08:424 - I have suggested a double here because the instrument is (approximately) on the blue tick but the white tick has the strong cymbal sound. In case you use the suggested rhythm, be careful that the spacings make sense and are readable. naahh, doubles don't fit the style
  5. These suggestions will help the section to be more readable and playable, they will also sound better when playing. Be careful with the hitsounding and check for unsnapped objects!
  1. 02:32:834 (8) - Ctrl+G for a slightly better flow? okay
  2. 02:47:996 (5,6) - Quite a huge jump out of nowhere. I would atleast move (5) a bit closer, like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4144396 changed
  3. 03:16:405 (2,3,4,5,6) - This was very confusing to play. The rhythm itself doesn't make sense, I think you were trying to follow the high-pitched guitar but it is actually on the red ticks. The hitsounding is what really made this confusing to play though, because the slidertails (not clickable) provide much more hitsound feedback to the player than the clickable sliderheads. I would highly recommend you to change the rhythm here and have the hitsounds on the sliderheads instead! true, changed
  4. 04:22:637 (1,2) - Try to keep the hitsound volume higher for these objects. done
  5. 04:25:303 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Great pattern! thanks
  6. 04:27:968 - I feel like this whole section needs higher hitsound volume. changed
  7. 04:59:460 (1,2) - Hmm, in my opinion there should be a jump between these circles to create a nice finish. Maybe you could arrange it like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4144503 changed
Overall I love this map! It's great that your style didn't change since 2012 well I mapped it 95% in February 2013 so that should be expected :D, such a nice throwback map. The only things that really need work is that one pattern and the section with the timing issues. The rest is just suggestions. Good luck!
You can call me after a few more mods!
Thank you very much.
Come[Back]Home
Insane

00:04:542 (2,3,4,5,6) Das würde um einiges besser aussehen wenn sie sich nicht berühren würden, oder wenn die Overlaps immer gleich sind, was sie hier aber nicht sind. Sieht nicht toll aus
00:18:538 (4,5) Ein Tick mehr Distanz würde hier echt nice aussehen, ansonsten sieht es so zerquetscht aus
00:45:364 (5,6,7) Ein Stack hier würde sich angenehmer spielen, so triplets nach 1/1 objects spielen sich immer etwas weird, daher lieber nen Stack.
01:08:524 (2,3,4,5) Würde das so nicht besser aussehen?
01:36:183 (5) Der Slider sieht ziemlich random und blöd aus imo
01:59:510 Ab hieran währe doch sowas viel geiler (playtechnisch her)
02:32:834 (8,1) Das sieht nicht wirklich schön aus, und spielerisch macht sowas auch nicht wirklich Spaß, ich würde es woanders platzieren mit ctrl+j oder so
03:01:159 Ab hieran währe doch so ein Pattern cool
03:05:325 (1) Der Slider endet falsch, wahrscheinlich aber nicht absichtlich
03:08:241 Es gibt viel schönere Streams als den, der sieht einfach nur random platziert aus. Mal nur als Beispiel
03:16:322 (2,3,4,5,6) Hier würden sich 1/2 slider viel besser spielen, 3/4 fühlt sich ziemlich erzwungen hier an
03:26:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6) ^
03:30:484 Bist du dir sicher den Drum hier zu ignorieren?
04:01:976 (3,4,5,6) Das würde schön aussehen ohne die (6) unter der (4)
04:05:725 (4,5,6,7,8,1) Ein bisschen Bewegung in dem Stream würde echt nice sein, er sieht einfach nur so herzlos platziert aus. Mach ihn mal etwas kurvig, denn sieht es schon besser aus, und spielt sich auch nice.
04:44:464 (2,3,4,5,6) Wie die sich berühren sieht in keinster Weise gut aus
04:55:461 (3,5) ^

Achja, deaktiviere Widescreen Support und Letterboxing.

So, viel Glück mit deiner Map :3
Hoffe der Mod hilft etwas~
Topic Starter
Tshemmp
SPOILER

Come[Back]Home wrote:

Insane

00:04:542 (2,3,4,5,6) Das würde um einiges besser aussehen wenn sie sich nicht berühren würden, oder wenn die Overlaps immer gleich sind, was sie hier aber nicht sind. Sieht nicht toll aus stimmt
00:18:538 (4,5) Ein Tick mehr Distanz würde hier echt nice aussehen, ansonsten sieht es so zerquetscht aus das ist eigentlich genau so beabsichtigt (die sollen parallel zu (2,3) sein)
00:45:364 (5,6,7) Ein Stack hier würde sich angenehmer spielen, so triplets nach 1/1 objects spielen sich immer etwas weird, daher lieber nen Stack. hm, find das ein bisschen langweiliger aber okay
01:08:524 (2,3,4,5) Würde das so nicht besser aussehen? ist schon mit Absicht so "nicht-standard" ^^
01:36:183 (5) Der Slider sieht ziemlich random und blöd aus imo hab ihn ein bisschen runder gemacht
01:59:510 Ab hieran währe doch sowas viel geiler (playtechnisch her) gute Idee
02:32:834 (8,1) Das sieht nicht wirklich schön aus, und spielerisch macht sowas auch nicht wirklich Spaß, ich würde es woanders platzieren mit ctrl+j oder so ich mag es D:
03:01:159 Ab hieran währe doch so ein Pattern cool geändert
03:05:325 (1) Der Slider endet falsch, wahrscheinlich aber nicht absichtlich jo, war nicht ganz gesnapped
03:08:241 Es gibt viel schönere Streams als den, der sieht einfach nur random platziert aus. Mal nur als Beispiel die Ecken sind schon absichtlich so, hab's jetzt aber trotzdem ein bisschen abgerundet und schöner gemacht
03:16:322 (2,3,4,5,6) Hier würden sich 1/2 slider viel besser spielen, 3/4 fühlt sich ziemlich erzwungen hier an ich finde das passt so perfekt zur Musik :o
03:26:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6) ^ hier sind es doch sogar 1/2 slider :D
03:30:484 Bist du dir sicher den Drum hier zu ignorieren? hmm, folge eigentlich der Gitarre und finde diese mini Break passt da schön, idk
04:01:976 (3,4,5,6) Das würde schön aussehen ohne die (6) unter der (4) geändert
04:05:725 (4,5,6,7,8,1) Ein bisschen Bewegung in dem Stream würde echt nice sein, er sieht einfach nur so herzlos platziert aus. Mach ihn mal etwas kurvig, denn sieht es schon besser aus, und spielt sich auch nice. okay
04:44:464 (2,3,4,5,6) Wie die sich berühren sieht in keinster Weise gut aus find das jetzt nicht sooo schlimm aber okay
04:55:461 (3,5) ^ ^

Achja, deaktiviere Widescreen Support und Letterboxing. yo

So, viel Glück mit deiner Map :3
Hoffe der Mod hilft etwas~
Vielen Dank.
Bara-
Hi

[Insane]
Can't you give it a custom diffname? It's for approval anyways, then "Insane" feels a bit bland

00:00:210 (1,2,3) - Can you please space them more (or less) so the distance wouldn't eb the exact same as the following sstream?
00:08:207 (5,6) - These 2 are low spaced, while the others 00:07:208 (2,3,4) - all have big spacing. Why not use it here too?
00:15:205 (2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing is soo low compared to the previous parts. Why not increase it?
00:52:862 (4,5,6) - The emphasis feels a bit odd. Sliderends have no emphasis, but (4,5) (all 3 audible parts) are of equal power in the music. imo 3 circles would work better
00:58:860 (5,6) - The lower spacing actually makes this a bit awkward
01:12:856 (8,1) - nazi - why not tro to match (8)'s head so it's perfectly on top of (1)'s tick?
01:24:020 (1,1) - Spinnerstarts have absolutely 0 emphasis, so it's better to start the spinner 1/4 (or 1/2) later, and a circle on the strong sound (applies to both spinners)
01:35:183 (2,3,4) - Not a fan of these overlaps, consider spacing them out more
01:51:179 (2,3,4,5) - Flow feels really broken here. It's a circle, then completely the otherway around (from (4,5)
02:20:837 (4,6) - See the nazi suggestion made above
03:07:990 (1) - Is there a need for the whole stream to have whistles? Can't you just juse them as a different sampleset as hitnormal, so the ears of people who turn off custom sounds don't get raped by the default skin's whistls
03:16:322 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Try to make this prettier. I do think this rhythm is nice, but the slightoverlaps make this look a little bad. Why not make them all blankets?
03:24:819 (1) - Why is there a NC? There is no sound which supports it
03:24:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - The combo is really long, especially when you apply ^^, so add a few NCs, 03:25:486 (7) - if you only do this one, it's already fine!
03:59:143 (2,3,4,5,6) - Overlap feels a bit untidy

Hmm, usually I dislike old maps, but this one's not that bad
Good job!
Topic Starter
Tshemmp
SPOILER

Baraatje123 wrote:

Hi

[Insane]
Can't you give it a custom diffname? It's for approval anyways, then "Insane" feels a bit bland tbh I don't like these "super duper ohmagad I am so creative" diff names, feels too forced to me, I like it more simple

00:00:210 (1,2,3) - Can you please space them more (or less) so the distance wouldn't eb the exact same as the following sstream? it is intended this way
00:08:207 (5,6) - These 2 are low spaced, while the others 00:07:208 (2,3,4) - all have big spacing. Why not use it here too? Playing wise they kinda have the same spacing, the distance from sliderhead (2) to sliderhead (3) is exactly the same as from sliderhead (5) to (6) and that's the movement you are going to do while playing. Also this keeps the flow and a nice pattern at the sime time.
00:15:205 (2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing is soo low compared to the previous parts. Why not increase it? changed a bit? idk if this is really better now
00:52:862 (4,5,6) - The emphasis feels a bit odd. Sliderends have no emphasis, but (4,5) (all 3 audible parts) are of equal power in the music. imo 3 circles would work better true, changed
00:58:860 (5,6) - The lower spacing actually makes this a bit awkward don't feel like this is a problem
01:12:856 (8,1) - nazi - why not tro to match (8)'s head so it's perfectly on top of (1)'s tick? done :D
01:24:020 (1,1) - Spinnerstarts have absolutely 0 emphasis, so it's better to start the spinner 1/4 (or 1/2) later, and a circle on the strong sound (applies to both spinners) I reeeaally dislike these spinner-circle-spinner-etc parts in maps
01:35:183 (2,3,4) - Not a fan of these overlaps, consider spacing them out more hm okay, changed
01:51:179 (2,3,4,5) - Flow feels really broken here. It's a circle, then completely the otherway around (from (4,5) true, fixed
02:20:837 (4,6) - See the nazi suggestion made above aye
03:07:990 (1) - Is there a need for the whole stream to have whistles? Can't you just juse them as a different sampleset as hitnormal, so the ears of people who turn off custom sounds don't get raped by the default skin's whistls uhm, good point, I'll ask phaZ about it
03:16:322 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Try to make this prettier. I do think this rhythm is nice, but the slightoverlaps make this look a little bad. Why not make them all blankets? done, kinda
03:24:819 (1) - Why is there a NC? There is no sound which supports it because there is a new motif starting in the music and a new pattern, combo would also get too big otherwise
03:24:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - The combo is really long, especially when you apply ^^, so add a few NCs, hm I don't think it is really a problem but okay, changed it 03:25:486 (7) - if you only do this one, it's already fine! wouldn't make too much sense to only add NC here and not 03:26:152 (1) - and 03:24:819 (1) - aswell (music wise and pattern wise) imo
03:59:143 (2,3,4,5,6) - Overlap feels a bit untidy intended

Hmm, usually I dislike old maps, but this one's not that bad
Good job!
Thank you very much.
BriedisLT
Sorry if I come across as rude sometimes. Don't take it personally.
m4m
00:12:456 - 01:15:605 - 00:17:121 - 00:45:030 - 00:49:113 - 01:47:430 - 01:53:095 - 02:19:754 - 02:35:750 - 02:40:748 - 02:41:081 - 02:57:077 - 03:12:406 - 03:33:734 - 04:01:059 - 04:26:052 - 04:33:217 - 04:59:376 - missed beat note
00:22:203 (1,2,3) - fill in blues -- missed beat notes\
00:33:034 (4,5) - muh triple
00:40:698 (7,8) - sliders starting on reds is not usually a good idea
01:00:693 (3,4,5,6) - ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
01:15:522 - here stars 1/6 beats that are wut m8 and ignoring them or not hitting all of them is unsatisfying and lacking during play
01:16:855 - include circles on the whites, the hats need loving too
01:21:020 (1,2,3) - this part is 1/6 and should realistically be 4 circles
01:26:352 - 1/6 part again pls halp
01:21:187 (3,4) - consider a slider here
02:05:091 (3) - u faking wot with this, it seriously doest fit into rhythm
02:57:993 (3,4,5,6) - pls no this is physically hurting me, just move it over to the left on the timeline and everything will be awesome
03:02:159 - more 1/6 nonsense
03:08:241 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - consider splitting the combo
03:16:322 (2,3,4,5,6) - just follow the rhythm better
03:30:484 - left the void - kills the pace
04:01:975 (3,4,5,6) - just move these to the left please
04:17:971 - two 1/6 beats idk
04:20:804 (3,4,5) - this doesnt work, just use regular sliders and circles instead
04:35:050 - 04:35:716 - muh triples
i hate pp
Hello

Zzzz...


01:36:183 (5) - I don't think so
02:05:341 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Break this up into 2 combos so the number doesn't reach 15
02:18:005 (3,4,5,6) - Make the spacing consistent
02:32:001 (5,6) - Make this flow down
02:34:167 (3) - Reverse slider
02:45:830 (6) - ^
03:05:825 (2) - ^
03:15:822 (2) - Move this up
04:20:804 (3) - Reverse slider
04:59:626 (2) - Move this so it matches the symmetry of 04:58:793 (4,5) -

Nice map.

Good luck with it :D
Topic Starter
Tshemmp
BriedisLT

BriedisLT wrote:

Sorry if I come across as rude sometimes. Don't take it personally. honesty is the best
[box=m4m]00:12:456 + - 01:15:605 + - 00:17:121 - - 00:45:030 - - 00:49:113 - - 01:47:430 - - 01:53:095 + - 02:19:754 + - 02:35:750 - - 02:40:748 - - 02:41:081 - - 02:57:077 - - 03:12:406 - - 03:33:734 + - 04:01:059 - - 04:26:052 - - 04:33:217 - - 04:59:376 + - missed beat note changes done according to colour
00:22:203 (1,2,3) - fill in blues -- missed beat notes\ I want the emphasis on the guitar here
00:33:034 (4,5) - muh triple okay
00:40:698 (7,8) - sliders starting on reds is not usually a good idea unless it fits the music like here
01:00:693 (3,4,5,6) - ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww don't see the problem
01:15:522 - here stars 1/6 beats that are wut m8 and ignoring them or not hitting all of them is unsatisfying and lacking during play uh I don't hear any 1/6s here
01:16:855 - include circles on the whites, the hats need loving too okay
01:21:020 (1,2,3) - this part is 1/6 and should realistically be 4 circles I only hear 3 beats here
01:26:352 - 1/6 part again pls halp uh, again...?
01:21:187 (3,4) - consider a slider here I'd really prefer 01:21:354 to be clickable
02:05:091 (3) - u faking wot with this, it seriously doest fit into rhythm ...guitar? it's perfect D:
02:57:993 (3,4,5,6) - pls no this is physically hurting me, just move it over to the left on the timeline and everything will be awesome nah sorry but I'll have to hurt you here
03:02:159 - more 1/6 nonsense nah
03:08:241 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - consider splitting the combo done
03:16:322 (2,3,4,5,6) - just follow the rhythm better but it follows it perfectly right now
03:30:484 - left the void - kills the pace well okay
04:01:975 (3,4,5,6) - just move these to the left please no again
04:17:971 - two 1/6 beats idk idk either
04:20:804 (3,4,5) - this doesnt work, just use regular sliders and circles instead why wouldn't it work, I really like it
04:35:050 okay - 04:35:716 would be weird to play - muh triples
I have the feeling you are focusing too much on the drums and ignoring other instruments sometimes :|
i hate pp

i hate pp wrote:

Hello

Zzzz...


01:36:183 (5) - I don't think so why not D:
02:05:341 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Break this up into 2 combos so the number doesn't reach 15 added NC on (4) but don't really see why a combo of 15 would be bad
02:18:005 (3,4,5,6) - Make the spacing consistent changed a bit
02:32:001 (5,6) - Make this flow down okay
02:34:167 (3) - Reverse slider current way is more interesting
02:45:830 (6) - ^ don't like it that much
03:05:825 (2) - ^ "this kills the flow"
03:15:822 (2) - Move this up why? I think it is currently perfect pattern and spacing wise
04:20:804 (3) - Reverse slider mmhh, would be a bit boring imo
04:59:626 (2) - Move this so it matches the symmetry of 04:58:793 (4,5) - I am more concerned about it lining up nicely with 04:59:460 (1,2) -

Nice map.

Good luck with it :D thank you

Thank you very much.
Shiirn
Suggestions
Major suggestions
Unrankable issues

Insane
  1. Generally speaking this feels kind of awkward and the patterns are fairly weak and you make a few mistakes with emphasis that are best worked out with experience rather than instruction, but don't get me wrong: this is a fun map.
  2. 00:04:542 (2,3,4,5,6) - feel like these would be better if they were symmetrical over the axis.
  3. 00:14:206 (8,9,10) - make triangle equilateral
  4. 00:38:199 (10,1) - these can be blanketed, or better
  5. 00:49:363 (1,2,3) - blankets arent perfect but hardly noticeable
  6. 00:50:862 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Make a proper honeycomb pattern. And try to avoid having 1/2 doubles like (8,9) are.
  7. 00:54:694 (1) - curve this more sharply so that it angles more at (2).
  8. 01:36:183 (5) - neat idea but im not too sure about the rankability because if its angle of going back into itself.
  9. 01:58:677 (1) - weird idea but maybe move the node to the left so it's not a perfectly vertical slider? imo looks cooler.
  10. 02:43:831 (11,1) - blanket these
  11. 02:49:829 (2,3,4,5) - I hate stacked 1/2 doubles. I'd rather have a neat pattern.
  12. 02:51:995 (1,2) - these don't... well, blanket. lol
  13. 02:52:828 (3,5) - ^
  14. 03:20:154 (1) - new combo for readability
  15. 03:31:151 - I expected there to be a note here.
  16. 03:46:147 (3,4,5,6) - I think this square is off....? might be an optical illusion.
  17. The rest of it follows in this kind of vein. The patterns are clumsy but are perfectly functional. Keep going, buddy.
Topic Starter
Tshemmp
SPOILER

Shiirn wrote:

holy shit it's Shiirn

Suggestions
Major suggestions
Unrankable issues

Insane
  1. Generally speaking this feels kind of awkward and the patterns are fairly weak and you make a few mistakes with emphasis that are best worked out with experience rather than instruction, but don't get me wrong: this is a fun map.
  2. 00:04:542 (2,3,4,5,6) - feel like these would be better if they were symmetrical over the axis. was my intention to not do it like this at first, but changed now
  3. 00:14:206 (8,9,10) - make triangle equilateral ...it is?
  4. 00:38:199 (10,1) - these can be blanketed, or better they are fine already
  5. 00:49:363 (1,2,3) - blankets arent perfect but hardly noticeable fixed
  6. 00:50:862 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Make a proper honeycomb pattern. done And try to avoid having 1/2 doubles like (8,9) are. I like this double, makes it interesting and kinda fits
  7. 00:54:694 (1) - curve this more sharply so that it angles more at (2). done
  8. 01:36:183 (5) - neat idea but im not too sure about the rankability because if its angle of going back into itself. please be okay
  9. 01:58:677 (1) - weird idea but maybe move the node to the left so it's not a perfectly vertical slider? imo looks cooler. nah, I want it to be parallel to the stream
  10. 02:43:831 (11,1) - blanket these done, kinda?
  11. 02:49:829 (2,3,4,5) - I hate stacked 1/2 doubles. I'd rather have a neat pattern. I spread out the second one but kept the first one
  12. 02:51:995 (1,2) - these don't... well, blanket. lol hu? they look fine to me
  13. 02:52:828 (3,5) - ^ ^
  14. 03:20:154 (1) - new combo for readability hmm, added it 03:19:821 - here instead because it fits the music better there
  15. 03:31:151 - I expected there to be a note here. I tried it but don't like it
  16. 03:46:147 (3,4,5,6) - I think this square is off....? might be an optical illusion. everything is perfectly rotated by 90°
  17. The rest of it follows in this kind of vein. The patterns are clumsy but are perfectly functional. Keep going, buddy.
Thank you very much.
Sonnyc
  1. 00:42:698 (7,8,1) - (8) is having a really strong sound, and you've decided to express as full hitsounds. But in term of spacing, giving a bigger jump to (1) wasn't effective on emphasizing (8).
  2. 02:11:506 (10,11,1) - Weird spacing.
  3. 02:32:834 (8,1) - Hope these symmetry were done better.
  4. 03:00:493 (2,3) - Stack these better please, but not sure if it will break again due to editor bugs.
  5. 03:26:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - (1,3,5) contains a beat in the slide, while (2,4,6) relatively doesn't. You could've expressed those difference, but currently everything is just the same as a 1/2 slider.
  6. 03:30:484 (3,4,5,6) - (3,4) are 1.2x and (4,5,6) is 1.00x. Considering there was a rhythm shift at (5,6), containing both spacing and rhythm change didn't felt nice. Consider maintaining a consistent 1.0x for (2,3,4) or keep using 1.2x for (4,5,6).
  7. 03:34:650 (1,2,3) - Good stack patterns here, but the transition to the intro felt pretty unnatural. Actually the pattern begins to work natural starting 03:34:983, and that's because 03:34:817 has no major beat that demands a click. Changing your rhythm to make 03:34:817 empty will make the transition natural.
  8. 03:41:481 (5,6) - Personally having a different curve didn't felt organized.
  9. 04:02:975 (6) - Consider nc to discern with the previous S curve 120' rotation pattern.
  10. 04:15:305 (4,5,6,7) - Nice attempt on your spacing increase pattern, but the broken flow of (7,8) pretty damaged it. Anyways, adding NC at 04:15:972 will make your spacing increase pattern work better.
  11. 04:23:302 (3) - Redundant note. Remove this since the silence begins after 04:23:136.
  12. 04:26:802 - 04:27:469 - These strong beat getting ignored didn't felt well.
Good work.
Topic Starter
Tshemmp
SPOILER

Sonnyc wrote:

  1. 00:42:698 (7,8,1) - (8) is having a really strong sound, and you've decided to express as full hitsounds. But in term of spacing, giving a bigger jump to (1) wasn't effective on emphasizing (8). made a little jump towards (8) but I really want to have the bigger distance to (1) afterwards because new motif in the music and stuff
  2. 02:11:506 (10,11,1) - Weird spacing. changed
  3. 02:32:834 (8,1) - Hope these symmetry were done better. I like it
  4. 03:00:493 (2,3) - Stack these better please, but not sure if it will break again due to editor bugs. done
  5. 03:26:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - (1,3,5) contains a beat in the slide, while (2,4,6) relatively doesn't. You could've expressed those difference, but currently everything is just the same as a 1/2 slider. I am focusing on the guitar here and not on the drums idk
  6. 03:30:484 (3,4,5,6) - (3,4) are 1.2x and (4,5,6) is 1.00x. Considering there was a rhythm shift at (5,6), containing both spacing and rhythm change didn't felt nice. Consider maintaining a consistent 1.0x for (2,3,4) or keep using 1.2x for (4,5,6). changed to 1.0x but it doesn't look as nice now imo hmm
  7. 03:34:650 (1,2,3) - Good stack patterns here, but the transition to the intro felt pretty unnatural. Actually the pattern begins to work natural starting 03:34:983, and that's because 03:34:817 has no major beat that demands a click. Changing your rhythm to make 03:34:817 empty will make the transition natural. I don't get what you mean by bad transition, I honestly don't see a problem and like it how it currently is
  8. 03:41:481 (5,6) - Personally having a different curve didn't felt organized. well okay
  9. 04:02:975 (6) - Consider nc to discern with the previous S curve 120' rotation pattern. considered it but adding a NC here would mean also having to add one 01:12:356 (6) - and 02:58:993 (6) - for consistency which doesn't fit/looks bad imo and I don't like at all
  10. 04:15:305 (4,5,6,7) - Nice attempt on your spacing increase pattern, but the broken flow of (7,8) pretty damaged it. Anyways, adding NC at 04:15:972 will make your spacing increase pattern work better. again not changing it because having to change all previous similar parts for consistency doesn't look good imo
  11. 04:23:302 (3) - Redundant note. Remove this since the silence begins after 04:23:136. the guitar is still playing there and that's what I am mapping to :o
  12. 04:26:802 - 04:27:469 - These strong beat getting ignored didn't felt well. focusing on the guitar again
Good work.
Thank you very much.
Myxo
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Myxo
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Natsu
Hi, phaZ requested this (2 times) on my queue

General:

  1. Can you provide me an official source for this metadata?
  1. 00:22:203 (1) - remove NC, I don't see any special reason to break your combo pattern
  2. 00:48:696 (1) - this new combo doesn't make much sense with your comboing i'd just remove it, if you really want to make something special with the melody and the comboing, then a better place for this would be 00:48:863 (2) - also we already talking about this part, I'm kinda curious in why you didn't mapped 00:49:113 - ?
  3. 01:15:355 (9,10,11,12,13) - this kind of rhythms feels super bad to play, because you are making the player to start streaming at the bluetick which don't have a big emphasis in the song as the previous white one does. just start the circle stream at 01:15:522 -
  4. 01:16:022 (1) - I'd remove this NC and put the NC in 01:16:522 (3) - that will fit better what is going in the music
  5. 01:21:520 (1) - no hitsound?
  6. 01:24:020 (1) - ^
  7. 01:36:183 (5) - looks bad, but somehow it fits the music lol
  8. 01:36:849 same issue as 01:15:355 (9,10,11,12,13) -
  9. 03:08:490 (5) - following your NC pattern at the stream, you are missing one at 03:08:490 (5) -
  10. 03:10:657 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - and the NCs on this one are inconsistent with the previous and next circle streams, maybe you should add NCs at 03:11:156 (7) - and 03:11:490 (11) -
  11. 03:11:906 - ignoring this beat doesn't make much sense, since is part of the main melody in the song.
  12. 03:12:823 (3) - why ending sliders where the melody of the song is changing? this is basically the same issue as 01:15:355 (9,10,11,12,13) - , I think you will know what I'm talking about, since your NCs are well placed 03:13:489 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - but the first one is not because of your rhythm choice
  13. 03:16:322 (2,3,4,5,6) - ignoring these drums to extend the sliders to the blue ticks make the rhythm super bad atleast for me, could you consider reworking this part?
  14. 03:23:986 (1) - same as 03:12:823 -
  15. 03:26:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - red and white ticks have the big emphasis at this part, so your current rhythm is not nice here, I really can't not agree with the current one.
  16. 04:22:637 (1) - remove NC and add one at 04:23:302 (3) - that fits the song alot better
  17. 04:34:633 (6,7,8,9) - due to the stack leniency this stack doesn't looks good in game
I think this need more improvement, anyways you can call Desperate for rebubble, since his icon is a bit old and probably he have new suggestions to make
Topic Starter
Tshemmp
SPOILER

Natsu wrote:

Hi, phaZ requested this (2 times) on my queue

General:

  1. Can you provide me an official source for this metadata? nothing official, I just found this in the properties and details of the mp3 http://puu.sh/oee2W.png under album
  1. 00:22:203 (1) - remove NC, I don't see any special reason to break your combo pattern it's there because of the high guitar beginning to play
  2. 00:48:696 (1) - this new combo doesn't make much sense with your comboing i'd just remove it, if you really want to make something special with the melody and the comboing, then a better place for this would be 00:48:863 (2) - done also we already talking about this part, I'm kinda curious in why you didn't mapped 00:49:113 - ? because I mapped it to the guitar and not the drums
  3. 01:15:355 (9,10,11,12,13) - this kind of rhythms feels super bad to play, because you are making the player to start streaming at the bluetick which don't have a big emphasis in the song as the previous white one does. just start the circle stream at 01:15:522 - I disagree, replacing the slider with a circle so the stream can start where the sliderend was before feels super bad to me and making the slider a single tick shorter isn't better either
  4. 01:16:022 (1) - I'd remove this NC and put the NC in 01:16:522 (3) - that will fit better what is going in the music right
  5. 01:21:520 (1) - no hitsound? added claps
  6. 01:24:020 (1) - ^ ^
  7. 01:36:183 (5) - looks bad, but somehow it fits the music lol stuff like this was so "in" 5 years ago :^)
  8. 01:36:849 same issue as 01:15:355 (9,10,11,12,13) - not that big of a problem that it would justify destryoing the previous pattern imo
  9. 03:08:490 (5) - following your NC pattern at the stream, you are missing one at 03:08:490 (5) - no, I put a NC whenever the high pitched guiter changed "direction"/started a new motif, I did the same with the chaning of the stream direction
  10. 03:10:657 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - and the NCs on this one are inconsistent with the previous and next circle streams, maybe you should add NCs at 03:11:156 (7) - and 03:11:490 (11) - yeah, added NC at 03:10:990 (5) - and 03:11:406 (10) - to again follow the guitar buuut I am not so sure about this because now there is a NC at 03:11:406 - at a kinda weird point idk
  11. 03:11:906 - ignoring this beat doesn't make much sense, since is part of the main melody in the song. true
  12. 03:12:823 (3) - why ending sliders where the melody of the song is changing? this is basically the same issue as 01:15:355 (9,10,11,12,13) - , I think you will know what I'm talking about, since your NCs are well placed 03:13:489 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - but the first one is not because of your rhythm choice because I wanted to make a small parallel slider to the second part of 03:11:990 (1) - like 03:12:489 (2) - is to the first part :^) but yeah, I could change it here
  13. 03:16:322 (2,3,4,5,6) - ignoring these drums to extend the sliders to the blue ticks make the rhythm super bad atleast for me, could you consider reworking this part? so many people complaining about this part, I really liked it but I guess I have no choice but to change it
  14. 03:23:986 (1) - same as 03:12:823 - the long slider fits here very well though
  15. 03:26:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - red and white ticks have the big emphasis at this part, so your current rhythm is not nice here, I really can't not agree with the current one. the most impactful parts of the guitar melody are exactly on all the slider ends and starts (?)
  16. 04:22:637 (1) - remove NC and add one at 04:23:302 (3) - that fits the song alot better okay
  17. 04:34:633 (6,7,8,9) - due to the stack leniency this stack doesn't looks good in game changed
I think this need more improvement, anyways you can call Desperate for rebubble, since his icon is a bit old and probably he have new suggestions to make
Thank you for modding!
Natsu
so I was looking a bit and:

This song is from a game so it need a source:

Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana <------------English
イリスのアトリエ エターナルマナ <-------------Japanese

title prof:



some tags:

Daisuke Achiwa, Ken Nakagawa <------------ Composer
Irisu no Atorie Etānaru Mana <---------------- Romanized game name


Source: http://vgmdb.net/album/1417

No kudos ofc, try to confirm this with someone else too!
Topic Starter
Tshemmp
Wow thank you, will look into it.
Myxo
The map still looks really nice to me. I don't think the streams starting on blue ticks after sliders are an issue, it is a pretty common technique and plays intuitively. Better than extending every second slider to make the player start streaming on white, honestly.

Rebubble #1
phaZ

Desperate-kun wrote:

The map still looks really nice to me. I don't think the streams starting on blue ticks after sliders are an issue, it is a pretty common technique and plays intuitively. Better than extending every second slider to make the player start streaming on white, honestly.

Rebubble #1
fully played this map for fun today...
02:30:168 (2,3,4) - that certainly does not look okay ._.
BeatofIke
3 month old bubble. I'll put a potential placeholder here.
Call be back when you're ready.
Topic Starter
Tshemmp
Yo I am here (How do I call you? You have PMs disabled :( ).
BeatofIke
02:30:168 (2,3) - Just...unacceptable D:
Topic Starter
Tshemmp

BeatofIke wrote:

02:30:168 (2,3) - Just...unacceptable D:
whatever happened there... fixed
BeatofIke
Looks good now!
Reset to bubble #1~
Myxo
Bubble #2
pishifat
did anyone mention the 1/6 mapped as 1/4 yet
like 00:00:876 (3,4,5,6,7) - is http://puu.sh/qNrRh/d08ab363d9.jpg
and it happens a few ot her places too

if u decide to change them or people somehow say they're acceptable i can rank
Topic Starter
Tshemmp

pishifat wrote:

did anyone mention the 1/6 mapped as 1/4 yet
like 00:00:876 (3,4,5,6,7) - is http://puu.sh/qNrRh/d08ab363d9.jpg
and it happens a few ot her places too

if u decide to change them or people somehow say they're acceptable i can rank
Fixed 00:00:876 - , 00:48:863 - , 02:35:500 - and 04:56:794 - , did I miss anything else?
pishifat
01:15:605 (10) - 01:36:933 (6) - 04:46:880 (2) - these ones after sliderends which are probably easier to adjust by using the same rhythm as 03:01:992 (6,7,8,9) -

and 01:21:020 (1,2,3) -

also could you like handle spacing for 00:48:863 (1,2,3,4) - 02:35:500 (2,3,4,5) - in a way that doesn't look the same as your previous 1/2 stuff (so basically smaller)
i get that it's for visuals but it's also super misleading lol
Topic Starter
Tshemmp
SPOILER

pishifat wrote:

01:15:605 (10) - 01:36:933 (6) - 04:46:880 (2) - fixed all as you suggested these ones after sliderends which are probably easier to adjust by using the same rhythm as 03:01:992 (6,7,8,9) -

and 01:21:020 (1,2,3) -

also could you like handle spacing for 00:48:863 (1,2,3,4) - 02:35:500 (2,3,4,5) - in a way that doesn't look the same as your previous 1/2 stuff (so basically smaller)
i get that it's for visuals but it's also super misleading lol doesn't look as nice now but I know what you mean
Thanks for everything.
pishifat

pishifat wrote:

and 01:21:020 (1,2,3) -
g

also it seems ill be killed if i rank a map after changing something potentially unrankable so ill have to rebub :(
Topic Starter
Tshemmp
Aww man that's too unfortunate.
Anyway changed the part I overlooked.
pishifat
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