Narcissu wrote:

• phaZ ask me mod O.O
  
  if you want rank the map …… you need a mp3 <= 192 done and map here 04:23:470 - done , your map drain time need it XD
  
  [Insane]

1. 01:21:354 - add a note ? spinner here → 01:21:520 - done
   
2. 01:36:183 (5) - rare now lol this map is nearly 3 years old
   
3. 02:02:009 (4,5,6) - have 8 bass sound obviously, 1/3 is mistake …… it's should be 1/5 if my experiment is right ↓↓↓ , you need add a 144.04 BPM timing point here like this → https://osu.ppy.sh/s/296952 10:10:267 - wow, thank you
   
   
   
4. 02:07:424 - add a note follow bass ? nice
   
5. 03:25:904 (11) - unsnap fixed
   
   good rhythm , good luck

Strategas wrote:

Hi, here because of PHASZSASA

[Ancient]

00:01:376- you should add another timeline here cuz all of your main beats are on wrong beats really suuure? it feels so awkward D:
00:07:208 (2,3,4,5,6) - if you're going for an even patern here move the 00:08:207 (5) - closer to 00:07:541 (3) - while maintaining the same distance to 00:08:541 (6) - but I don't want it to be closer to (3), right now (5,6) are placed exactly like (2,3) and I don't see why I should change that
00:22:537 (3,1) - not a very nice angle to play also for consisntency should be more like 00:11:706 (8,9,1) - changed
00:22:703 (1,2) - in this part spacing gets smaller even though you increase the volume hm. volume change removed
00:45:030- imo you should map this I really like this small break
00:56:527 (7,8) - if you're always making linear paterns just make them even otherwise it's not fun at all curve fits nicely with the movement imo
01:00:693 (3,4,5) - this is strange you mapped the weak beats and ignored the strong ones since I have so much focus on the "prime instrument" (for example all these sliders like 01:00:026 (1) - are mapped according to it) it makes kinda sense to continue mapping here with the "prime instrument" im mind, i.e. mapping exactly on these beats
01:11:356 (3,4,5) - ^
Well, I notice you don't really use sharp angles in this map and more linear circular stuff, but it's not very good thing to do imo. It can work, but it's usually on easier diffs. 01:04:858 (1,2,3,1) - This would be REALLY better if you used these as sharp angled jumps. I agree
01:15:355 (7) - nah 01:15:688- this shouldn't be ignored fixed
01:21:020 (4) - nc hm ok
01:31:184 (6,7,8,9,1) - meh lol come on it's not even close to extreme
01:55:511 (7,8,9,1) - yeah man I kinda liked this from being different from every 2015 map with this exact same sharp pattern style, dunno, changed
01:59:510 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - use slider, those are continuous sounds and would eliminate polarity this rhythm is way more fun to play with circles imo
02:51:995 (1) - this doesn't make sense to have so close when you jumped to a beat that wasn't as strong I don't quite get what you are trying to say, increase spacing before this slider?
03:16:155 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - try silencing slider ends, doesn't sound very good atm it is supposed to sound that way, doesn't fit the music if I silence it
04:07:474 (4,5,6) - just pointing out what you should not do, if you wanted a jump to 6, change the angle changed?
04:12:389 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - you follow the guitar then suddenly stop lel right, changed, not sure if I should continue to 04:16:804 - or if I can stop at 04:13:639 - tho, hm...
04:23:303 (3) - just saying but there is soft samplesets too which are good in situations like this phaZ just did some new hitsounding for me, I 100% trust him there

So generally you need to use sharp angles more that's highly subjective imo D:, use better stream patterning and maybe a little work on hitsounding phaZ just did some new hitsounding for me, I 100% trust him there and you will have a good map. Things I mentioned kinda repeats in the whole map so if you get the idea you should remake the map with more today standards if you are to rank this.But for now I just advise you to keep practicing more. ATM this map looks like something very old style it's 3 year old afterall lol. Good luck and have fun mapping!

Poggo wrote:

hi~~

• 00:22:203 - this 3 notes looks a bit strange. Remove nc here or make it more jumpy for nc meh, I like it
• 00:24:703 and 00:35:366 - this triples looks very bad. I think need more distance between notes I mean between 7 and 8 notes. It will more readable for play as here 00:37:866 - looks good ok done
• 00:42:364 - this notes looks boooring make this http://puu.sh/lJ572.jpg I like both versions! but ok, changed
• 00:43:364 - this need more jumpy too or remove nc nah
• 00:48:696 - same ^ same ^
• 01:38:516 - put note 4 x200 y336 jump feets better here okay
• 01:50:596 - add note here. If u make 1 tripple here 01:48:429 then make it here too no, I have a triplet at 01:48:429 - because of the drums, but the music is different at 01:50:596 -
• 01:53:261 - add note/ tripple feets better not in the music
• 01:55:927 - same ^ same ^
• 03:02:658 - I think will better put slider 1 on x304 y 200 for better jump between notes done
• And the same identical problems on all map

Hitsounds are good~ About patterns... I think u can make it more interesting that now >.< Boring identical patterns ;w; I wrote only what I really don't like and I hope U'll make i better :3 Good luck

Krimek wrote:

phaZ called me, how is it going? o/
These are more or less rythmical problems that you should better fix. Can't tell you much about placement since I suck at judging it.
Towards the end there is less explaining since most of all are the same problems.
[Insane]

1. 00:22:370 (2,3) - Should be a tripple. I am not following the drums there but the "main instrument" (don't know the name lol)
2. 00:24:786 (9) - It's placed too late. It should be at 00:24:758 - , 1/6 after (8). I'd suggest you to remove (9) or replace (8) with a 1/6 short slider. uuhh suuure?? if anything it's 1/8, right, and that plays so bad
3. 00:27:452 (9) - Why tripple? There is no sound on it. okay
4. 00:27:785 - Place circle? no
5. 00:43:447 (2) - No sound, remove it. okay
6. 00:43:614 - Now this is where you place a circle. uh okay
7. 00:45:030 - It's pretty quiet, but I wouldn't ignore that sound so please add a circle. no I like a much more now
8. 00:45:447 - Add circle? okay
9. 00:46:197 (9) - It should already end on the red tick imo so you don't ignore that sound and you can make 00:46:530 - clickable. okay
10. 00:49:113 - Add circle. The drums are 5 hits, not just a tripple. well okay
11. 00:50:362 (3) - This slider does not feel right to me. I wouldn't ignore the drum on 00:50:529 - either. nah
12. 00:53:528 - Why you ignore the drums on the big white tick and so on? The stream should be obviously 9 circles long. okay
13. 01:15:605 - Missing circle. ..no, the drum the triplet is mapped to doesn't play there
14. 01:00:026 (1,2,3,4) - I know it's on purpose that you did not map the guitar, but I would suggest you to add circles there. It's the most essential part of the song (hope I said ir right lol), would be kinda lame if it stays like this.. I could imagine a jumpy pattern for this. Same with 01:11:356 (3,4,5,6) - and so on. mmhh changed
15. 01:14:855 - and 01:15:189 - Please don't ignore it. So loud drums, you can't unhear it. apperantly my headset has a very weak bass
16. 01:16:022 (12) - How about a long slider? Would work out pretty good imo. well okay
17. 01:53:095 - Add circle? okay
18. 01:59:760 (3) - should be placed on 01:59:787 - and 02:00:426 (6) - should be placed on 02:00:454 - (1/6 tact). right
19. 02:01:093 - There is no sound on it. Place it 1/4 later so it makes sense. Also I would suggest you to space it more since otherwise you will missread the circle. mh okay
20. 02:07:757 (5) - should be placed on 02:07:785 - and 02:08:424 (8) - should be placed on 02:08:451 - (1/6 tact again). yes
21. 02:14:089 (9) - Can't hear anything there. Please remove the circle. done
22. 02:14:422 - Add circle. no
23. 02:19:753 - ^ mh okay
24. 02:30:085 (2) - Remove circle. okay
25. 02:30:251 - Add circle. oookay
26. 02:32:083 - ^ okay
27. 02:35:749 - ^ okay
28. 02:40:164 - Same as 00:53:528 - okay
29. 03:06:658 (5,6) - This flows realy bad imo. Maybe do something like this? nah, I like the current movement
30. 03:07:657 (8) - I would space it since it's a loud sound. nah
31. 03:07:991 (1) - The slider should actually end already on the big white tick since the stream already starts there. Also add a circle on 03:08:240 - than. yeah
32. 03:11:906 - I would add a circle and connect the next slider with the stream. the break fits imo
33. 03:18:654 (1,2) - Switch NCs. why
34. 03:20:820 (14) - Why is this so spaced? Also maybe rotate it 180° so it flows to the direction of 03:21:154 (15) - ? everything intended
35. 03:59:143 (2,3,4,5,6) - The pattern kinda takes the movement away... Something like 03:48:479 (2,3,4,5) - works out way better imo. I want some variety, not always everything the same
36. 04:06:224 - Add circle. no
37. 04:06:391 - ^ no
38. 04:07:058 (2) - Can't hear any sound on it. Pleace remove. guitar vibrato
39. 04:08:391 (7) - ^ ^
40. 04:11:723 (8) - ^ ^
41. 04:11:972 (1) - The upcoming stream should already start here. yeah but the stream is just a short intermezzo, still following mainly the main instrument, that's why I also already end the stream 04:13:639 (11) -
42. 04:20:804 (3) - Strg + G, otherways it plays awkward. no no no no it's perfect zigzag mirror movement now
43. 04:34:633 (6,7) - Nice sliders. But I think a stream would be way better :p nah
44. 04:56:876 - Add circle okay
45. 04:57:043 - ^ okay
46. 04:59:792 (3,4) - There is actually nothing that supports these circles. Remove it pls. okay

That's probably it. I know that you sometimes prefered to map the main melody instead of the drums (streams). But sometimes you did and sometimes you didn't. I'd suggest you to stay consistant through the map.
Hope it was helpful!

Stjpa wrote:

M4M with phuzzy


• 00:16:872 (7,8,9) - Du hast bisher immer exakt das gleiche gemappt mit gleichem DS etc, aber hier hast du aus welchem Grund auch immer einen viel höheren DS trotz gleichem Sound verwendet. Und danach gehts halt wieder mit 1,5x weiter. weil es sonst nicht vom Placement her gepasst hätte/hässlich aussehen würde, hab's geändert aber naja
• 00:48:529 (6,1,2,3,4,5) - Solche DS Changes spielen sich imo sehr weird, wenns weiterhin in die selbe Richtung geht. seh kein Problem
• 01:00:693 (3,4,5) - Map eher Slider auf den weißen Ticks. Hört sich auf diese Weise extrem komisch an, da die Gitarre doch schon ziemlich dominant ist. find das andere Instrument noch dominanter
• 01:11:356 (3,4,5) - ^ ^
• 01:16:022 (11) - NC evtl. schon hier? okay
• 01:33:850 (6,1) - Die berühren sich. hm okay
• 01:34:183 (7,8,9) - Haben ebenfalls größeres Spacing verglichen zu dem Rest. geändert
• 01:38:682 (5) - NC wäre hier auch schon machbar, weil hier der Sound etwas lauter wird. ich mach NC eigentlich nur alle 2 Takte
• 01:41:348 (5) - ^ ^
• 01:44:014 (5) - ^ usw, will jetzt nicht alles unnötig rausholen, da du eh weißt was ich meine. ^ jo
• 01:49:346 (6) - Hab zwar die Vermutung, dass dieser Slider mit Absicht den gleichen Shape hat wie (4), aber ich denke es würde einfach viel besser aussehen, wenn hier der Shape stärker wäre. okay
• 01:53:345 (1,2) - Blanket ist etwas unsauber. fixed?
• 01:55:511 (7,8,9) - Warum eskaliert hier der DS so stark? Hört sich imo genauso an wie alles andere davor. weil jemand wollte, dass ich da scharfe Jumps einbaue statt das Lineare was ich davor hatte, und das ist wohl aus Versehen dabei rausgekommen
• 02:00:010 (4,7) - Evtl NC damit man den Polarity Change besser merkt? auf (4) und (7)? würde mich ehrlich gesagt mehr verwirren als mir helfen
• 02:05:091 (3) - Bin mir sicher, dass er eigtl. auf den White Tick sollte. ne ist schon richtig so
• 02:05:341 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - Würde mir wünschen, wenn die "Bögen" etwas stärker wären, damit es besser zur Musik passt. okay
• 02:06:090 (13,1) - Overlap intended? der war mir vollkommen egal lol, passt ins Pattern rein und ist eigentlich genug Zeit dazwischen
• 02:08:007 (6) - NC wegen Polarity Change? ne
• 02:27:669 (8,2,3) - Minor Thing: Man sieht den Overlap zwar nicht, aber der fällt etwas auf. Lass (3) wenn dann einfach genauso wenig an den Slider dran wie (2), oder andersrum. Falls das denn überhaupt irgendwie möglich ist. Wäre halt auf diese Weise ein nettes Rechteck. D: und dadurch würde ich mein sichtbares folgende Pattern kaputt machen :c
• 02:32:001 (5) - Würde hier persönlich nen NC verwenden. Sound ist anders, sudden DS Change bla. disagree
• 02:37:499 (4,5,6,7) - Evtl ein Zick-Zack in die linke Richtung und so positionieren, dass man nen starken Richtungswechsel auf die Circles danach hat? Dann wirken die Jumps weniger weird bzw sind nicht ganz so weird zu moven. Hab mich vermutlich beschissen ausgedrückt, soz. D: verstanden
• 02:45:164 (4,7) - Stack? (8) kannst du ja etwas weiter nach links verschieben, damit es noch mit dem Slider passt vom Platz her. Außer du willst die 2 unbedingt übereinander haben. <.< okay
• 02:47:163 (2,3,4,5) - Wie oben auch schon, wäre einfach viel besser irgendwas mit Slidern auf den White Ticks zu machen. nah
• 02:54:661 (1,3) - (1) passt irgendwie so gar nicht in die Map, und berührt sich außerdem auch mit (3). finde das ist so ein schöner Übergang in die nächsten Slider; das Berührungsproblem hab ich aber gefixed? maybe idk
• 02:57:827 (2,3,4,5) - bla blub
• 03:13:073 (4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Sollte imo genau andersrum sein. Die Musik ist am Anfang more intense, demnach sollte da das Spacing größer sein. die waren eigentlich als Einleitung gedacht, deswegen enger
• 03:18:654 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Sehr unschön mit so hohen Combos, wäre nicht schlecht wenn du dir da irgendwas einfallen lässt. D: seit wann hat man was gegen hohe Combos :O
• 03:38:982 (6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - Etwas Movement hier wäre sehr nice, den Platz dafür hast du eigentlich auch. okay
• 03:41:981 (6,7) - Blanket ist nicht ganz sauber. ein wahrer deutscher Nazi wie er leibt und lebt :^) (kA ob's jetzt merklich besser ist)
• 03:46:647 (6) - NC? eh
• 03:51:145 (2,3,4,5) - Wie am Anfang auch schon. jah
• 04:01:809 (2,3,4,5) - ^ ^

Also imo solltest du dir die ganzen NCs noch anschauen und überlegen, wo du mehr einbauen könntest, besonders am Ende, weil die ziemlich oft über 10 gehen was mMn sehr schlecht aussieht. Just my opinion though. die Meinung teile ich nicht

Desperate-kun wrote:

As requested by phaZ~

1. 00:50:862 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - I'm not really a fan of the spacing in this pattern. You have been using 1.5x spacing for intense transitions before, which is not the case here 00:51:529 (8,9,10,1) - . The instrument is rather intense for the whole pattern though, which is why I would use 1.5x spacing for all the circles. Maybe you could make these 00:51:529 (8,9) - stacked to follow the pitch. What would you think about something like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4143991 oaky, but I did it slightly different
2. 01:11:357 (3,4,5,6) - The jumps seem quite big here compared to the rest of the section and the positions of the sliders seem quite random to me. I can't come up with a suggestion though, maybe you still think of a better pattern. changed
3. 01:15:355 - This beat needs some kind of hitsound-emphasis, a finish or atleast a whistle I'd say. simply forgot, done
4. 01:16:022 - I would recommend to increase the hitsound volume for this beat, as it's currently covered by the music.
5. 01:37:266 (10) - Kinda overmapped circle, I would suggest to delete it as you left these out properly later in the map. okay
6. 01:59:510 to 02:02:842 - Those red Timing points are completely unnecessary. Your rhythm is oriented on the guitar and the guitar's timing fluncuates, BUT the rhythm would play and sound a lot better when it's simplified to the rhythm of the drums. You will see below what I mean, but for that, delete those Timing points. yeah

Snapping suggestions

1. 01:59:510 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - You can snap them to 1/4 like so: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4144140 I had it like this before, don't know what really happened lol I would recommend you to place NCs on 02:00:176 - 02:00:843 - to make the rhythms more readable, because the New Combos will tell the player to read after Approach Circles to not confuse the 1/2-gaps with 3/4-gaps. done
2. 02:01:343 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - The best simplification here would be a combination of 1/4 and 1/3-snap: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4144159 okay
3. 02:02:842 (8,9,10) - You can snap these on 1/4: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4144166 done
4. 02:07:507 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - This can also be snapped to simple 1/4. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4144344 02:08:174 - done I would add a New Combo here for the same reason as above - It makes the rhythm change more readable. done 02:08:424 - I have suggested a double here because the instrument is (approximately) on the blue tick but the white tick has the strong cymbal sound. In case you use the suggested rhythm, be careful that the spacings make sense and are readable. naahh, doubles don't fit the style
5. These suggestions will help the section to be more readable and playable, they will also sound better when playing. Be careful with the hitsounding and check for unsnapped objects!

1. 02:32:834 (8) - Ctrl+G for a slightly better flow? okay
2. 02:47:996 (5,6) - Quite a huge jump out of nowhere. I would atleast move (5) a bit closer, like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4144396 changed
3. 03:16:405 (2,3,4,5,6) - This was very confusing to play. The rhythm itself doesn't make sense, I think you were trying to follow the high-pitched guitar but it is actually on the red ticks. The hitsounding is what really made this confusing to play though, because the slidertails (not clickable) provide much more hitsound feedback to the player than the clickable sliderheads. I would highly recommend you to change the rhythm here and have the hitsounds on the sliderheads instead! true, changed
4. 04:22:637 (1,2) - Try to keep the hitsound volume higher for these objects. done
5. 04:25:303 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - Great pattern! thanks
6. 04:27:968 - I feel like this whole section needs higher hitsound volume. changed
7. 04:59:460 (1,2) - Hmm, in my opinion there should be a jump between these circles to create a nice finish. Maybe you could arrange it like this? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4144503 changed

Overall I love this map! It's great that your style didn't change since 2012 well I mapped it 95% in February 2013 so that should be expected , such a nice throwback map. The only things that really need work is that one pattern and the section with the timing issues. The rest is just suggestions. Good luck!
You can call me after a few more mods!

Come[Back]Home wrote:

Insane

00:04:542 (2,3,4,5,6) Das würde um einiges besser aussehen wenn sie sich nicht berühren würden, oder wenn die Overlaps immer gleich sind, was sie hier aber nicht sind. Sieht nicht toll aus stimmt
00:18:538 (4,5) Ein Tick mehr Distanz würde hier echt nice aussehen, ansonsten sieht es so zerquetscht aus das ist eigentlich genau so beabsichtigt (die sollen parallel zu (2,3) sein)
00:45:364 (5,6,7) Ein Stack hier würde sich angenehmer spielen, so triplets nach 1/1 objects spielen sich immer etwas weird, daher lieber nen Stack. hm, find das ein bisschen langweiliger aber okay
01:08:524 (2,3,4,5) Würde das so nicht besser aussehen? ist schon mit Absicht so "nicht-standard" ^^
01:36:183 (5) Der Slider sieht ziemlich random und blöd aus imo hab ihn ein bisschen runder gemacht
01:59:510 Ab hieran währe doch sowas viel geiler (playtechnisch her) gute Idee
02:32:834 (8,1) Das sieht nicht wirklich schön aus, und spielerisch macht sowas auch nicht wirklich Spaß, ich würde es woanders platzieren mit ctrl+j oder so ich mag es D:
03:01:159 Ab hieran währe doch so ein Pattern cool geändert
03:05:325 (1) Der Slider endet falsch, wahrscheinlich aber nicht absichtlich jo, war nicht ganz gesnapped
03:08:241 Es gibt viel schönere Streams als den, der sieht einfach nur random platziert aus. Mal nur als Beispiel die Ecken sind schon absichtlich so, hab's jetzt aber trotzdem ein bisschen abgerundet und schöner gemacht
03:16:322 (2,3,4,5,6) Hier würden sich 1/2 slider viel besser spielen, 3/4 fühlt sich ziemlich erzwungen hier an ich finde das passt so perfekt zur Musik
03:26:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6) ^ hier sind es doch sogar 1/2 slider
03:30:484 Bist du dir sicher den Drum hier zu ignorieren? hmm, folge eigentlich der Gitarre und finde diese mini Break passt da schön, idk
04:01:976 (3,4,5,6) Das würde schön aussehen ohne die (6) unter der (4) geändert
04:05:725 (4,5,6,7,8,1) Ein bisschen Bewegung in dem Stream würde echt nice sein, er sieht einfach nur so herzlos platziert aus. Mach ihn mal etwas kurvig, denn sieht es schon besser aus, und spielt sich auch nice. okay
04:44:464 (2,3,4,5,6) Wie die sich berühren sieht in keinster Weise gut aus find das jetzt nicht sooo schlimm aber okay
04:55:461 (3,5) ^ ^

Achja, deaktiviere Widescreen Support und Letterboxing. yo

So, viel Glück mit deiner Map :3
Hoffe der Mod hilft etwas~

Baraatje123 wrote:

Hi

[Insane]
Can't you give it a custom diffname? It's for approval anyways, then "Insane" feels a bit bland tbh I don't like these "super duper ohmagad I am so creative" diff names, feels too forced to me, I like it more simple

00:00:210 (1,2,3) - Can you please space them more (or less) so the distance wouldn't eb the exact same as the following sstream? it is intended this way
00:08:207 (5,6) - These 2 are low spaced, while the others 00:07:208 (2,3,4) - all have big spacing. Why not use it here too? Playing wise they kinda have the same spacing, the distance from sliderhead (2) to sliderhead (3) is exactly the same as from sliderhead (5) to (6) and that's the movement you are going to do while playing. Also this keeps the flow and a nice pattern at the sime time.
00:15:205 (2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing is soo low compared to the previous parts. Why not increase it? changed a bit? idk if this is really better now
00:52:862 (4,5,6) - The emphasis feels a bit odd. Sliderends have no emphasis, but (4,5) (all 3 audible parts) are of equal power in the music. imo 3 circles would work better true, changed
00:58:860 (5,6) - The lower spacing actually makes this a bit awkward don't feel like this is a problem
01:12:856 (8,1) - nazi - why not tro to match (8)'s head so it's perfectly on top of (1)'s tick? done
01:24:020 (1,1) - Spinnerstarts have absolutely 0 emphasis, so it's better to start the spinner 1/4 (or 1/2) later, and a circle on the strong sound (applies to both spinners) I reeeaally dislike these spinner-circle-spinner-etc parts in maps
01:35:183 (2,3,4) - Not a fan of these overlaps, consider spacing them out more hm okay, changed
01:51:179 (2,3,4,5) - Flow feels really broken here. It's a circle, then completely the otherway around (from (4,5) true, fixed
02:20:837 (4,6) - See the nazi suggestion made above aye
03:07:990 (1) - Is there a need for the whole stream to have whistles? Can't you just juse them as a different sampleset as hitnormal, so the ears of people who turn off custom sounds don't get raped by the default skin's whistls uhm, good point, I'll ask phaZ about it
03:16:322 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Try to make this prettier. I do think this rhythm is nice, but the slightoverlaps make this look a little bad. Why not make them all blankets? done, kinda
03:24:819 (1) - Why is there a NC? There is no sound which supports it because there is a new motif starting in the music and a new pattern, combo would also get too big otherwise
03:24:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) - The combo is really long, especially when you apply ^^, so add a few NCs, hm I don't think it is really a problem but okay, changed it 03:25:486 (7) - if you only do this one, it's already fine! wouldn't make too much sense to only add NC here and not 03:26:152 (1) - and 03:24:819 (1) - aswell (music wise and pattern wise) imo
03:59:143 (2,3,4,5,6) - Overlap feels a bit untidy intended

Hmm, usually I dislike old maps, but this one's not that bad
Good job!

BriedisLT wrote:

Sorry if I come across as rude sometimes. Don't take it personally. honesty is the best
[box=m4m]00:12:456 + - 01:15:605 + - 00:17:121 - - 00:45:030 - - 00:49:113 - - 01:47:430 - - 01:53:095 + - 02:19:754 + - 02:35:750 - - 02:40:748 - - 02:41:081 - - 02:57:077 - - 03:12:406 - - 03:33:734 + - 04:01:059 - - 04:26:052 - - 04:33:217 - - 04:59:376 + - missed beat note changes done according to colour
00:22:203 (1,2,3) - fill in blues -- missed beat notes\ I want the emphasis on the guitar here
00:33:034 (4,5) - muh triple okay
00:40:698 (7,8) - sliders starting on reds is not usually a good idea unless it fits the music like here
01:00:693 (3,4,5,6) - ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww don't see the problem
01:15:522 - here stars 1/6 beats that are wut m8 and ignoring them or not hitting all of them is unsatisfying and lacking during play uh I don't hear any 1/6s here
01:16:855 - include circles on the whites, the hats need loving too okay
01:21:020 (1,2,3) - this part is 1/6 and should realistically be 4 circles I only hear 3 beats here
01:26:352 - 1/6 part again pls halp uh, again...?
01:21:187 (3,4) - consider a slider here I'd really prefer 01:21:354 to be clickable
02:05:091 (3) - u faking wot with this, it seriously doest fit into rhythm ...guitar? it's perfect D:
02:57:993 (3,4,5,6) - pls no this is physically hurting me, just move it over to the left on the timeline and everything will be awesome nah sorry but I'll have to hurt you here
03:02:159 - more 1/6 nonsense nah
03:08:241 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16) - consider splitting the combo done
03:16:322 (2,3,4,5,6) - just follow the rhythm better but it follows it perfectly right now
03:30:484 - left the void - kills the pace well okay
04:01:975 (3,4,5,6) - just move these to the left please no again
04:17:971 - two 1/6 beats idk idk either
04:20:804 (3,4,5) - this doesnt work, just use regular sliders and circles instead why wouldn't it work, I really like it
04:35:050 okay - 04:35:716 would be weird to play - muh triples

I have the feeling you are focusing too much on the drums and ignoring other instruments sometimes

i hate pp wrote:

Hello

Zzzz...

01:36:183 (5) - I don't think so why not D:
02:05:341 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Break this up into 2 combos so the number doesn't reach 15 added NC on (4) but don't really see why a combo of 15 would be bad
02:18:005 (3,4,5,6) - Make the spacing consistent changed a bit
02:32:001 (5,6) - Make this flow down okay
02:34:167 (3) - Reverse slider current way is more interesting
02:45:830 (6) - ^ don't like it that much
03:05:825 (2) - ^ "this kills the flow"
03:15:822 (2) - Move this up why? I think it is currently perfect pattern and spacing wise
04:20:804 (3) - Reverse slider mmhh, would be a bit boring imo
04:59:626 (2) - Move this so it matches the symmetry of 04:58:793 (4,5) - I am more concerned about it lining up nicely with 04:59:460 (1,2) -

Nice map.

Good luck with it thank you

Shiirn wrote:

holy shit it's Shiirn

Suggestions
Major suggestions
Unrankable issues

Insane

1. Generally speaking this feels kind of awkward and the patterns are fairly weak and you make a few mistakes with emphasis that are best worked out with experience rather than instruction, but don't get me wrong: this is a fun map.
2. 00:04:542 (2,3,4,5,6) - feel like these would be better if they were symmetrical over the axis. was my intention to not do it like this at first, but changed now
3. 00:14:206 (8,9,10) - make triangle equilateral ...it is?
4. 00:38:199 (10,1) - these can be blanketed, or better they are fine already
5. 00:49:363 (1,2,3) - blankets arent perfect but hardly noticeable fixed
6. 00:50:862 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Make a proper honeycomb pattern. done And try to avoid having 1/2 doubles like (8,9) are. I like this double, makes it interesting and kinda fits
7. 00:54:694 (1) - curve this more sharply so that it angles more at (2). done
8. 01:36:183 (5) - neat idea but im not too sure about the rankability because if its angle of going back into itself. please be okay
9. 01:58:677 (1) - weird idea but maybe move the node to the left so it's not a perfectly vertical slider? imo looks cooler. nah, I want it to be parallel to the stream
10. 02:43:831 (11,1) - blanket these done, kinda?
11. 02:49:829 (2,3,4,5) - I hate stacked 1/2 doubles. I'd rather have a neat pattern. I spread out the second one but kept the first one
12. 02:51:995 (1,2) - these don't... well, blanket. lol hu? they look fine to me
13. 02:52:828 (3,5) - ^ ^
14. 03:20:154 (1) - new combo for readability hmm, added it 03:19:821 - here instead because it fits the music better there
15. 03:31:151 - I expected there to be a note here. I tried it but don't like it
16. 03:46:147 (3,4,5,6) - I think this square is off....? might be an optical illusion. everything is perfectly rotated by 90°
17. The rest of it follows in this kind of vein. The patterns are clumsy but are perfectly functional. Keep going, buddy.

Sonnyc wrote:

1. 00:42:698 (7,8,1) - (8) is having a really strong sound, and you've decided to express as full hitsounds. But in term of spacing, giving a bigger jump to (1) wasn't effective on emphasizing (8). made a little jump towards (8) but I really want to have the bigger distance to (1) afterwards because new motif in the music and stuff
2. 02:11:506 (10,11,1) - Weird spacing. changed
3. 02:32:834 (8,1) - Hope these symmetry were done better. I like it
4. 03:00:493 (2,3) - Stack these better please, but not sure if it will break again due to editor bugs. done
5. 03:26:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - (1,3,5) contains a beat in the slide, while (2,4,6) relatively doesn't. You could've expressed those difference, but currently everything is just the same as a 1/2 slider. I am focusing on the guitar here and not on the drums idk
6. 03:30:484 (3,4,5,6) - (3,4) are 1.2x and (4,5,6) is 1.00x. Considering there was a rhythm shift at (5,6), containing both spacing and rhythm change didn't felt nice. Consider maintaining a consistent 1.0x for (2,3,4) or keep using 1.2x for (4,5,6). changed to 1.0x but it doesn't look as nice now imo hmm
7. 03:34:650 (1,2,3) - Good stack patterns here, but the transition to the intro felt pretty unnatural. Actually the pattern begins to work natural starting 03:34:983, and that's because 03:34:817 has no major beat that demands a click. Changing your rhythm to make 03:34:817 empty will make the transition natural. I don't get what you mean by bad transition, I honestly don't see a problem and like it how it currently is
8. 03:41:481 (5,6) - Personally having a different curve didn't felt organized. well okay
9. 04:02:975 (6) - Consider nc to discern with the previous S curve 120' rotation pattern. considered it but adding a NC here would mean also having to add one 01:12:356 (6) - and 02:58:993 (6) - for consistency which doesn't fit/looks bad imo and I don't like at all
10. 04:15:305 (4,5,6,7) - Nice attempt on your spacing increase pattern, but the broken flow of (7,8) pretty damaged it. Anyways, adding NC at 04:15:972 will make your spacing increase pattern work better. again not changing it because having to change all previous similar parts for consistency doesn't look good imo
11. 04:23:302 (3) - Redundant note. Remove this since the silence begins after 04:23:136. the guitar is still playing there and that's what I am mapping to
12. 04:26:802 - 04:27:469 - These strong beat getting ignored didn't felt well. focusing on the guitar again

Good work.

Natsu wrote:

Hi, phaZ requested this (2 times) on my queue

General:

1. Can you provide me an official source for this metadata? nothing official, I just found this in the properties and details of the mp3 http://puu.sh/oee2W.png under album

1. 00:22:203 (1) - remove NC, I don't see any special reason to break your combo pattern it's there because of the high guitar beginning to play
2. 00:48:696 (1) - this new combo doesn't make much sense with your comboing i'd just remove it, if you really want to make something special with the melody and the comboing, then a better place for this would be 00:48:863 (2) - done also we already talking about this part, I'm kinda curious in why you didn't mapped 00:49:113 - ? because I mapped it to the guitar and not the drums
3. 01:15:355 (9,10,11,12,13) - this kind of rhythms feels super bad to play, because you are making the player to start streaming at the bluetick which don't have a big emphasis in the song as the previous white one does. just start the circle stream at 01:15:522 - I disagree, replacing the slider with a circle so the stream can start where the sliderend was before feels super bad to me and making the slider a single tick shorter isn't better either
4. 01:16:022 (1) - I'd remove this NC and put the NC in 01:16:522 (3) - that will fit better what is going in the music right
5. 01:21:520 (1) - no hitsound? added claps
6. 01:24:020 (1) - ^ ^
7. 01:36:183 (5) - looks bad, but somehow it fits the music lol stuff like this was so "in" 5 years ago :^)
8. 01:36:849 same issue as 01:15:355 (9,10,11,12,13) - not that big of a problem that it would justify destryoing the previous pattern imo
9. 03:08:490 (5) - following your NC pattern at the stream, you are missing one at 03:08:490 (5) - no, I put a NC whenever the high pitched guiter changed "direction"/started a new motif, I did the same with the chaning of the stream direction
10. 03:10:657 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - and the NCs on this one are inconsistent with the previous and next circle streams, maybe you should add NCs at 03:11:156 (7) - and 03:11:490 (11) - yeah, added NC at 03:10:990 (5) - and 03:11:406 (10) - to again follow the guitar buuut I am not so sure about this because now there is a NC at 03:11:406 - at a kinda weird point idk
11. 03:11:906 - ignoring this beat doesn't make much sense, since is part of the main melody in the song. true
12. 03:12:823 (3) - why ending sliders where the melody of the song is changing? this is basically the same issue as 01:15:355 (9,10,11,12,13) - , I think you will know what I'm talking about, since your NCs are well placed 03:13:489 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - but the first one is not because of your rhythm choice because I wanted to make a small parallel slider to the second part of 03:11:990 (1) - like 03:12:489 (2) - is to the first part :^) but yeah, I could change it here
13. 03:16:322 (2,3,4,5,6) - ignoring these drums to extend the sliders to the blue ticks make the rhythm super bad atleast for me, could you consider reworking this part? so many people complaining about this part, I really liked it but I guess I have no choice but to change it
14. 03:23:986 (1) - same as 03:12:823 - the long slider fits here very well though
15. 03:26:819 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - red and white ticks have the big emphasis at this part, so your current rhythm is not nice here, I really can't not agree with the current one. the most impactful parts of the guitar melody are exactly on all the slider ends and starts (?)
16. 04:22:637 (1) - remove NC and add one at 04:23:302 (3) - that fits the song alot better okay
17. 04:34:633 (6,7,8,9) - due to the stack leniency this stack doesn't looks good in game changed

I think this need more improvement, anyways you can call Desperate for rebubble, since his icon is a bit old and probably he have new suggestions to make

pishifat wrote:

01:15:605 (10) - 01:36:933 (6) - 04:46:880 (2) - fixed all as you suggested these ones after sliderends which are probably easier to adjust by using the same rhythm as 03:01:992 (6,7,8,9) -

and 01:21:020 (1,2,3) -

also could you like handle spacing for 00:48:863 (1,2,3,4) - 02:35:500 (2,3,4,5) - in a way that doesn't look the same as your previous 1/2 stuff (so basically smaller)
i get that it's for visuals but it's also super misleading lol doesn't look as nice now but I know what you mean

Lasse wrote:

👀 time flies

things:
00:39:699 - having such an important melody start on a reverse seemed really unfitting with what you do the whole time changed
01:16:355 - this should really use at least 30% volume, it felt way too quiet while I played this with normal settings (and also in the editor) + it's right after a long 70% section so it feels even more quiet changed
01:21:520 (1,1,1) - all of them end on cymbals, so finished on each one would make sense, yet you only have them one one of them? okay
01:36:183 (5) - kinda edgy, but it was perfectly sightreadable for me and fits the guitar really well, so fine for me these were cool in 2012
03:10:490 (4) - 03:10:490 (4,1) - can you get some spacing similar to 03:09:490 (1,2,3) - here? my main problem with this is the 1/4 slider overlapping the okay
02:09:340 - not as bad as the other one, but this section still felt a bit too quiet, +5-10% volume would be great I think it's fine, it's already louder than the equivalent part in the beginning at 00:22:703 -
following stream, which (at least for me) made it kinda uncomfortable to play how about http://i.imgur.com/bX6lDmq.jpg or http://i.imgur.com/TSR2o2h.jpg ? sorry no, I find my slider usage here to be way more intuitive to play
03:37:316 (1) - can't you stack this on 03:35:983 (9,10) - instead? would still fit the whole symmetry thing and a jump fits so much better with the song, would just have to change 03:37:316 (1,2,3,4) - a bit then good idea
04:59:293 - could add 30% volume timing point music gets a bit louder here already done

snaps are okay to me, current seems like the best solution for gameplay and all

let me know when I can qualify is it happening? :O