2017-10-26 14:35 Uta: hey mo do you accepting a quick look or a bit chat about my map?
2017-10-26 14:35 -Mo-: I can quick look
2017-10-26 14:35 Uta: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1451266 Chelsy - I Will]
2017-10-26 14:36 Uta: hard diff
2017-10-26 14:36 Uta: i know DS quality seems like a person that just started mapping for 1 day
2017-10-26 14:39 -Mo-: 00:20:898 (2) - Probably wouldn't overlap the reverse arrow so much
2017-10-26 14:40 Uta: hmm did you just said "probably"?
2017-10-26 14:40 -Mo-: I use that word way too liberally
2017-10-26 14:40 Uta: you mean a little bit to the right?
2017-10-26 14:40 Uta: i mean left
2017-10-26 14:40 Uta: xD
2017-10-26 14:40 -Mo-: Well I wouldn't overlap it at all given the choice
2017-10-26 14:41 -Mo-: [https://puu.sh/y7CUt.jpg This seems good enough]
2017-10-26 14:41 Uta: seems good!
2017-10-26 14:43 -Mo-: 00:53:932 (1,3,5) - This overlap is kinda meht oo
2017-10-26 14:44 -Mo-: 01:06:741 (2,3) - I think this is the only spacing thing I have an issue with in the whole map
2017-10-26 14:44 -Mo-: Since you did use larger spacing for some places, but this is a place I would expect it
2017-10-26 14:45 Uta: should the overlap is really necessary to be remove
2017-10-26 14:45 -Mo-: It's not like it's unrankable, but I do think it looks pretty cluttered as it is currently
2017-10-26 14:46 -Mo-: Would be better if it wasn't there
2017-10-26 14:46 Uta: the snap change to 1/3 in that part. i dont know where else to put it (fit the map's structure and flow)
2017-10-26 14:47 -Mo-: [https://puu.sh/y7D4K.jpg What about that]
2017-10-26 14:47 -Mo-: Small overlaps indicate that the rhythm is different from everything else so it should read like 1/3
2017-10-26 14:48 Uta: hmm ill check
2017-10-26 14:48 Uta: in some of the maps i played
2017-10-26 14:48 Uta: they use new combo to show indicate a different rythm
2017-10-26 14:49 -Mo-: NC spamming is a pretty messy way to do it
2017-10-26 14:49 Uta: well nice grammar...
2017-10-26 14:49 Uta: me
2017-10-26 14:49 Uta: yea i agree
2017-10-26 14:49 -Mo-: It indicates a change sure, but it's not immediate to the player what that change is
2017-10-26 14:49 -Mo-: In a lot of places it also just looks bad
2017-10-26 14:49 Uta: agreed
2017-10-26 14:50 -Mo-: NC ontop of 00:55:280 (3) - and 00:55:955 (6) - isn't a bad idea though
2017-10-26 14:51 Uta: yes
2017-10-26 14:51 Uta: since 00:55:280 (1,2,3) - and 00:55:955 (1) - have a differenty snap
2017-10-26 14:51 Uta: umm typo there
2017-10-26 14:52 Uta: what about these jumps? 00:56:629 (1,2,3,4) - some said that its overmapping etc
2017-10-26 14:52 Uta: no i mean
2017-10-26 14:52 Uta: the DS is over
2017-10-26 14:52 Uta: plz teach me proper english :>
2017-10-26 14:53 -Mo-: "The spacing is too large"
2017-10-26 14:53 -Mo-: I do think that the change is a bit too sudden
2017-10-26 14:53 Uta: exactly xD
2017-10-26 14:54 -Mo-: Also since 1-3 and 2-4 are close to each other, it makes the actual spacing seem larger than it is
2017-10-26 14:55 Uta: kekz i dont think its bad :>
2017-10-26 14:55 -Mo-: Yeah, I don't think it's too bad either
2017-10-26 14:55 Uta: so that's it for now?
2017-10-26 14:56 -Mo-: Oh 01:00:674 (3,4) - this spacing could be slightly larger too to match 01:01:348 (4,5) -
2017-10-26 14:56 -Mo-: 01:08:089 (1,2,3) - I also think this looks kind of cluttered
2017-10-26 14:56 Uta: hmm i dont think its an emphasis didnt it
2017-10-26 14:57 -Mo-: 01:01:348 - Has a louder vocal sound than 01:01:685 -
2017-10-26 14:57 Uta: DS 1.3x 01:01:348 (4,5) - ?
2017-10-26 14:57 Uta: oh
2017-10-26 14:57 Uta: so 4 need to have more spacing?
2017-10-26 14:58 -Mo-: Just saying that 4-5 shouldn't have more spacing than 3-4
2017-10-26 14:58 -Mo-: So you can either make 3-4 larger or 4-5 smaller
2017-10-26 14:59 -Mo-: My suggestion is mvoe 01:01:348 (4) - to (440, 215)
2017-10-26 14:59 Uta: 3-4 larger!
2017-10-26 14:59 Uta: how about 01:01:685 (5) - ?
2017-10-26 14:59 -Mo-: That should be fine where it is
2017-10-26 15:00 Uta: just perfect
2017-10-26 15:01 -Mo-: 01:08:764 (2) - I think easiest fix for this is to move it to (89, 283)
2017-10-26 15:01 Uta: honestly tho
2017-10-26 15:01 Uta: i dont know what to say about this 01:08:089 (1,2,3) -
2017-10-26 15:01 -Mo-: So that 1-2 and 2-3 have the same gap between them visually
2017-10-26 15:02 Uta: ahh, i get your point
2017-10-26 15:02 Uta: seems better
2017-10-26 15:03 -Mo-: 01:14:157 (7) - Straight slider seems kind of boring to me for this sound
2017-10-26 15:03 -Mo-: So maybe some sort of curve upwards
2017-10-26 15:03 Uta: 01:22:921 (2,3,4) -
2017-10-26 15:03 -Mo-: That has the same problem as bfeore yeah
2017-10-26 15:03 Uta: upwards?
2017-10-26 15:04 -Mo-:
https://puu.sh/y7DCV.jpg2017-10-26 15:04 Uta: 15 clockwise?
2017-10-26 15:04 Uta: ahh
2017-10-26 15:04 Uta: ok
2017-10-26 15:05 -Mo-: 01:19:550 (1,2,3) - Spacing thing here too
2017-10-26 15:05 Uta: so rather 01:22:921 (2,3) - have more space or smaller space?
2017-10-26 15:06 -Mo-: Listen to the sounds
2017-10-26 15:06 -Mo-: 01:23:595 (4) - is louder than 01:23:258 (3) -
2017-10-26 15:07 Uta: 01:20:898 (4) - going to have more space then before (2,3) and an nc?
2017-10-26 15:08 Uta: 01:20:561 (3) - less spacing
2017-10-26 15:08 Uta: ?
2017-10-26 15:08 Uta: well i do think this is fine, in a bad way tho
2017-10-26 15:08 -Mo-: I think we're looking at two different things now
2017-10-26 15:08 Uta: 01:23:258 (3,4) -
2017-10-26 15:09 Uta: what
2017-10-26 15:09 -Mo-: 01:22:921 (2,3,4) - Let's take a look at this one first
2017-10-26 15:09 Uta: ok
2017-10-26 15:10 -Mo-: Which sounds are louder and should have more emphasis
2017-10-26 15:10 -Mo-: ?
2017-10-26 15:10 Uta: hmm
2017-10-26 15:10 Uta: these 01:22:584 (1,2,3) - have the same sound
2017-10-26 15:11 Uta: not this tho
2017-10-26 15:11 Uta: 01:23:595 (4) -
2017-10-26 15:11 -Mo-: Yeah
2017-10-26 15:11 -Mo-: So 3-4 should not be smaller than 2-3, would you agree?
2017-10-26 15:12 Uta: yes!
2017-10-26 15:13 -Mo-: 01:19:550 (1,2,3) - And for this one can you see how it should be changed?
2017-10-26 15:14 Uta: idk i think 01:20:224 (2) - have a smaller sound
2017-10-26 15:14 Uta: 01:20:561 (3) - then this
2017-10-26 15:15 -Mo-: I would've said 2 has more emphasis
2017-10-26 15:15 -Mo-: Because it has a higher pitch
2017-10-26 15:16 Uta: same as before, this 01:19:550 (1,2,3) - should have the same distance and this 01:20:898 (4) - should have more distance
2017-10-26 15:16 Uta: i know its a higher pitch, but its kinda not noticeable
2017-10-26 15:17 -Mo-: If you listen to only those sounds, it might not be very noticable
2017-10-26 15:18 Uta: yes, are the players going to tho
?
2017-10-26 15:18 -Mo-: But if you listen to the whole combo, you'll be able to pick out which one has the most emphasis
2017-10-26 15:18 -Mo-:
https://puu.sh/y7E39.jpg2017-10-26 15:18 Uta: ah get your point know :v
2017-10-26 15:20 Uta: fixed
2017-10-26 15:21 -Mo-: I think that's about it
2017-10-26 15:22 Uta: ah, was that a quick look tho xD
2017-10-26 15:22 Uta: probably not
2017-10-26 15:22 Uta: and thank you so much!!!
2017-10-26 15:22 -Mo-: Oh well