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Hasegawa Tomoki - Zetsubou no Minuet [OsuMania]

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Chronocide
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Chronocide
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, 27 June, 2016 at 23:55:57

Artist: Hasegawa Tomoki
Title: Zetsubou no Minuet
Source: 俗・さよなら絶望先生
Tags: Zoku Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei ost keysound
BPM: 120
Filesize: 9251kb
Play Time: 01:34
Difficulties Available:
  1. Allegro - 4Key (2.67 stars, 606 notes)
  2. Andante - 4Key (1.29 stars, 243 notes)
  3. Moderato - 4Key (2.02 stars, 418 notes)
Download: Hasegawa Tomoki - Zetsubou no Minuet
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Full 4k keysound mapset
Because mania needs more keysounded maps!

Mods:
Andante: 10
Moderato: 11
Allegro: 10

Changelog
8/8/15 - Added mapset, fixed missing background
9/8/15 - Changed hitsound volumes on Allegro diff
11/8/15 - Updated Allegro diff
12/8/15 - Updated all diffs
5/9/15 - Fixed hitsound volumes on Moderato, working on Allegro
6/9/15 - Applied Kruzon's mod
1/10/15 - Minor changes on Adante / Moderato difficulty, fixed hitsounds on all difficulties
21/10/15 - Minor changes on Moderato / Allegro difficulty
25/10/15 - Applied JamesHappy's mod / applied self mod on all difficulties
27/10/15 - IRC mod, added small changes to Allegro / Moderato
5/11/15 - Applied Frm4503's mod / applied self mod on Allegro diff
6/11/15 - Applied jakads' mod / applied _FrEsH_ChICkEn_'s mod
7/11/15 - Applied ninevdk's mod / applied self mod on all difficulties
15/2/16 - Applied selfmod
1/5/16 - Applied Kuo Kyoka's mod
8/5/16 - Fixed keysounds
4/6/16 - Fixed metadata
27/6/16 - IRC mod with Feerum / Harbyter, fixed keysounds
Last edited by Chronocide , edited 25 times in total.
Chronocide
236 posts
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Chronocide
Update!

Changed hitsound volumes on Allegro difficulty.
Xenophilius
456 posts
Joined August 2014
Xenophilius
Hi! From Mod 4 mod.

Layout:

4k: |0|1|2|3|

allegro
  1. 00:01:176 (1176|2,1176|3,2426|3,2426|2) - 00:04:926 (4926|2,4926|1,5176|2,5176|1) - I think is bat to jacking here since those notes haeve different sounds.
  2. 00:17:926 (17926|2,18051|1,18176|3,18259|2,18342|3,18426|2,18509|3,18592|2,18676|3,18759|2,18842|3,18926|2,19009|3,19092|2) - I suggest:
    00:17:926 (17926|2,18051|1) - Ctrl + H to avoid jacking with 00:18:176 (18176|1) -
    00:18:176 (18176|3,18259|2,18342|3,18426|2,18509|3,18592|2,18676|3,18759|2,18842|3,18926|2,19009|3,19092|2) - Ctrl + J to avoid jacking with modded 00:17:926 (17926|2,18051|1) -
    00:20:176 (20176|2,20259|3,20342|2,20426|3,20509|2,20592|3,20676|2,20759|3,20842|2,20926|3,21009|2,21092|3) - Ctrl + J also this won't be bad if you apply this suggestion.
  3. 00:31:176 (31176|0) - This Ln should end here 00:33:676 -
  4. 00:35:176 (35176|1,35176|0,35426|1,35426|0,35676|2,35676|1) - Don't jack here sounds are different. I suggest to make a stair with those chords:
    00:35:426 (35426|0) - to 2
    00:35:676 (35676|1) - to 3
  5. 00:55:176 (55176|1,55176|0,55426|1,55426|0,55676|2,55676|1) - Same ^
  6. 00:49:176 (49176|3,49176|1,49176|2,49426|0,49926|0,50176|0) - Maybe Ctrl + H since this is not the same sound of 00:48:176 (48176|3,48176|2,48176|1,48426|0,48926|0) -
  7. 00:52:176 (52176|1,52176|2,52176|3,52426|0,52926|0) - Same as above ^ They have not the same sound.
  8. 00:59:363 - If you want you can add a note here.
  9. 01:02:176 (62176|0,62176|3,62426|2,62676|1,62676|3,62926|2,63176|3,63176|0,63426|2,63676|3,63676|1,63926|2,64176|3,64176|0,64426|2,64676|3,64676|1,64926|2,65176|3,65176|0,65426|2,65676|3,65676|1,65926|2) - This is exactly the same of previous pattern and can be boring to play 2 times the same pattern. I suggest to Crtl + H those notes
  10. 01:27:176 (87176|0) - I think here will be better a normal note. Also for atmosphere

I think other diffs are good.
Chronocide
236 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Chronocide

_Xenophilius_ wrote:

Hi! From Mod 4 mod.

Layout:

4k: |0|1|2|3|

allegro
  1. 00:01:176 (1176|2,1176|3,2426|3,2426|2) - 00:04:926 (4926|2,4926|1,5176|2,5176|1) - I think is bat to jacking here since those notes haeve different sounds. Mmh, yes
  2. 00:17:926 (17926|2,18051|1,18176|3,18259|2,18342|3,18426|2,18509|3,18592|2,18676|3,18759|2,18842|3,18926|2,19009|3,19092|2) - I suggest:
    00:17:926 (17926|2,18051|1) - Ctrl + H to avoid jacking with 00:18:176 (18176|1) -
    00:18:176 (18176|3,18259|2,18342|3,18426|2,18509|3,18592|2,18676|3,18759|2,18842|3,18926|2,19009|3,19092|2) - Ctrl + J to avoid jacking with modded 00:17:926 (17926|2,18051|1) -
    00:20:176 (20176|2,20259|3,20342|2,20426|3,20509|2,20592|3,20676|2,20759|3,20842|2,20926|3,21009|2,21092|3) - Ctrl + J also this won't be bad if you apply this suggestion. Indeed! Way better
  3. 00:31:176 (31176|0) - This Ln should end here 00:33:676 Fixed
  4. 00:35:176 (35176|1,35176|0,35426|1,35426|0,35676|2,35676|1) - Don't jack here sounds are different. I suggest to make a stair with those chords:
    00:35:426 (35426|0) - to 2
    00:35:676 (35676|1) - to 3 Fixed
  5. 00:55:176 (55176|1,55176|0,55426|1,55426|0,55676|2,55676|1) - Same ^ ^
  6. 00:49:176 (49176|3,49176|1,49176|2,49426|0,49926|0,50176|0) - Maybe Ctrl + H since this is not the same sound of 00:48:176 (48176|3,48176|2,48176|1,48426|0,48926|0) I want the low notes far most left, but changed it. LN on 0-2-3 and single on 1
  7. 00:52:176 (52176|1,52176|2,52176|3,52426|0,52926|0) - Same as above ^ They have not the same sound. ^
  8. 00:59:363 - If you want you can add a note here. No, I listened to it at 25%, doesn't seem necessary
  9. 01:02:176 (62176|0,62176|3,62426|2,62676|1,62676|3,62926|2,63176|3,63176|0,63426|2,63676|3,63676|1,63926|2,64176|3,64176|0,64426|2,64676|3,64676|1,64926|2,65176|3,65176|0,65426|2,65676|3,65676|1,65926|2) - This is exactly the same of previous pattern and can be boring to play 2 times the same pattern. I suggest to Crtl + H those notes I really don't want to change it around, since it IS the previous pattern over again. I'll wait and see what other modders suggest Actually, you're right, changed it around.
  10. 01:27:176 (87176|0) - I think here will be better a normal note. Also for atmosphere Mmh, ok

I think other diffs are good.
Thanks for mod! Good to know other diffs are good :D
EDIT: Reviewed mod 2nd time, tweaked diff around
NlHIL
856 posts
Joined December 2013
NlHIL
Allegro
00:30:176 (30176|0) - remove the LN
00:31:176 - only a LN? lower diffs are 2 notes...
01:15:176 (75176|3) - change the note to a LN as 00:19:176 (19176|0)

ohter diffs are no problem XD
Chronocide
236 posts
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Chronocide

NlHIL wrote:

Allegro
00:30:176 (30176|0) - remove the LN It consists of 2 notes, can't do. I can change it to a LN and single, if that works?
00:31:176 - only a LN? lower diffs are 2 notes... Fixed the other 2 diffs
01:15:176 (75176|3) - change the note to a LN as 00:19:176 (19176|0) Fixed!

ohter diffs are no problem XD


Thanks for the mod!
Why does everyone say that the lower diffs are no problem :roll:
Kruzon
1,023 posts
Joined December 2013
Kruzon
hii, i'll be modding your 4k and my modding column format is as following: 1-4

let's goo

moderato

i assume this map is plotted vastly dependent on pitch, therefore my modding will more oriented to pitch relevancy as well

00:02:426 (2426|3,2676|2) - shift them 1 time to the left,

00:14:176 (14176|3) - move to 3
00:14:426 (14426|0) - move to 4
00:14:676 (14676|2) - move to 2
00:14:926 (14926|0) - move to 3
00:15:176 (15176|3) - move to 1
00:15:426 (15426|1) - move to 4
00:15:676 (15676|2) - move to 2
00:15:926 (15926|0) - move to 3

00:16:176 (16176|1) - move to 1 implement pattern repetition for consistency 00:14:426 (14426|3,14676|1,14926|2,15176|0) -
00:16:551 (16551|1) - move to 4
00:16:676 (16676|0) - move to 2
00:17:176 (17176|1) - move to 1 same as 00:16:176 (16176|0) -
00:17:551 (17551|1) - move to 4
00:17:676 (17676|0) - move to 2

00:21:176 (21176|0) - move to 2, different vibe than 00:19:176 (19176|0) - therefore assign it with different column

00:22:676 (22676|1) - move to 1
00:24:176 (24176|0) - move to 2
00:26:676 (26676|1) - move to 1
00:30:176 (30176|0) - move to 2 00:30:176 (30176|1,31051|1) -

00:34:426 (34426|0) - move to 2
00:34:676 (34676|1) - move to 1
00:34:926 (34926|0) - move to 2

00:36:176 (36176|2) - move to 1
00:36:426 (36426|0) - move to 2
00:36:676 (36676|1) - move to 1
00:36:926 (36926|0) - move to 2

00:39:551 (39551|2) - move to 4 00:39:051 (39051|0,39176|3,39551|3,39676|0) -
00:40:176 (40176|2) - move to 2 00:39:926 (39926|1,40176|1) -
00:41:301 (41301|1) - move to 1 00:40:676 (40676|3,40801|0,41176|3,41301|0) -
00:41:426 (41426|0) - move to 3
00:41:551 (41551|2,41676|2) - shift them 1 time to the left 00:40:926 (40926|2,41051|1,41426|2,41551|1) -
00:41:801 (41801|1) - move to 3 00:41:426 (41426|2,41801|2) -

00:42:176 (42176|0) - move to 2
00:42:676 (42676|1) - move to 3
00:43:176 (43176|2) - move to 2
00:45:176 (45176|2) - move to 4 00:44:176 (44176|0,44176|3,45176|3,45176|0) -

00:53:176 (53176|3,53176|2) - shift 1 time to the left
00:54:176 (54176|2) - move to 2 00:54:176 (54176|1,54301|3,54426|0,54551|2,54676|1,54801|3,54926|0,55051|2) -
00:56:176 (56176|2) - move to 2
00:57:301 (57301|1) - move to 3

00:59:301 (59301|2) - move to 2
00:59:426 (59426|1) - move to 4

01:13:176 (73176|2,73176|3) - shift 1 time to the left
01:17:176 (77176|3) - move to 3

starting here 01:22:176 (82176|2,82176|1) - suggest to variate the pattern:
01:22:176 (82176|2,82676|1) - shift them 1 time to the right
01:23:176 (83176|2,83926|1) - shift them 1 time to the left
01:24:926 (84926|2,84926|1) - shift them 1 time to the left
01:25:176 (85176|3) - move to 1

- mod ends -

good luck with your map c:
Chronocide
236 posts
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Topic Starter
Chronocide

Kruzon wrote:

SPOILER
hii, i'll be modding your 4k and my modding column format is as following: 1-4

let's goo

moderato

i assume this map is plotted vastly dependent on pitch, therefore my modding will more oriented to pitch relevancy as well

00:02:426 (2426|3,2676|2) - shift them 1 time to the left, Whoops, fixed that

00:14:176 (14176|3) - move to 3 Doesn't work with the rest
00:14:426 (14426|0) - move to 4 Fixed
00:14:676 (14676|2) - move to 2 Doesn't work with the rest
00:14:926 (14926|0) - move to 3 ^
00:15:176 (15176|3) - move to 1 ^
00:15:426 (15426|1) - move to 4 ^
00:15:676 (15676|2) - move to 2 ^
00:15:926 (15926|0) - move to 3 ^

00:16:176 (16176|1) - move to 1 implement pattern repetition for consistency 00:14:426 (14426|3,14676|1,14926|2,15176|0) - ^
00:16:551 (16551|1) - move to 4 ^
00:16:676 (16676|0) - move to 2 ^
00:17:176 (17176|1) - move to 1 same as 00:16:176 (16176|0) - ^
00:17:551 (17551|1) - move to 4 ^
00:17:676 (17676|0) - move to 2 ^

00:21:176 (21176|0) - move to 2, different vibe than 00:19:176 (19176|0) - therefore assign it with different column Low note should be placed on the most left position, which is 0

00:22:676 (22676|1) - move to 1 Yea, that's better
00:24:176 (24176|0) - move to 2 ^
00:26:676 (26676|1) - move to 1 ^
00:30:176 (30176|0) - move to 2 00:30:176 (30176|1,31051|1) - Changed it, but different

00:34:426 (34426|0) - move to 2 I really don't want to change this around, it's based on position relativity, due to 4k not having enough space.
00:34:676 (34676|1) - move to 1 ^
00:34:926 (34926|0) - move to 2 ^

00:36:176 (36176|2) - move to 1 ^
00:36:426 (36426|0) - move to 2 ^
00:36:676 (36676|1) - move to 1 ^
00:36:926 (36926|0) - move to 2 ^

00:39:551 (39551|2) - move to 4 00:39:051 (39051|0,39176|3,39551|3,39676|0) - ^
00:40:176 (40176|2) - move to 2 00:39:926 (39926|1,40176|1) - ^
00:41:301 (41301|1) - move to 1 00:40:676 (40676|3,40801|0,41176|3,41301|0) - ^
00:41:426 (41426|0) - move to 3 ^
00:41:551 (41551|2,41676|2) - shift them 1 time to the left 00:40:926 (40926|2,41051|1,41426|2,41551|1) - ^
00:41:801 (41801|1) - move to 3 00:41:426 (41426|2,41801|2) - ^

00:42:176 (42176|0) - move to 2 ^
00:42:676 (42676|1) - move to 3 ^
00:43:176 (43176|2) - move to 2 ^
00:45:176 (45176|2) - move to 4 00:44:176 (44176|0,44176|3,45176|3,45176|0) - ^

00:53:176 (53176|3,53176|2) - shift 1 time to the left yeap, that's indeed better
00:54:176 (54176|2) - move to 2 00:54:176 (54176|1,54301|3,54426|0,54551|2,54676|1,54801|3,54926|0,55051|2) - Same as above, don't want to change this pattern. It plays well and fits the music
00:56:176 (56176|2) - move to 2 ^
00:57:301 (57301|1) - move to 3 ^

00:59:301 (59301|2) - move to 2 ^
00:59:426 (59426|1) - move to 4 ^

01:13:176 (73176|2,73176|3) - shift 1 time to the left yeap, that's indeed better
01:17:176 (77176|3) - move to 3 Fixed

starting here 01:22:176 (82176|2,82176|1) - suggest to variate the pattern: Oooh, I really like what you did there! Thanks!
01:22:176 (82176|2,82676|1) - shift them 1 time to the right ^
01:23:176 (83176|2,83926|1) - shift them 1 time to the left ^
01:24:926 (84926|2,84926|1) - shift them 1 time to the left ^
01:25:176 (85176|3) - move to 1 ^

- mod ends -

good luck with your map c:
Thanks for the mod! Really helpfull! Have some kudosu :P
EDIT: Added spoiler
Last edited by Chronocide , edited 1 time in total.
Chronocide
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Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Chronocide

Update!

Updated all the difficulties, completely redone the hit-sounds. Enjoy!
JamesHappy
678 posts
Joined January 2014
JamesHappy
I'll post the mods tomorrow

m4m yo

mods inside
|1|2|3|4|

[Adante]

HP7 OD7 please (HPOD8 is too harsh for beginner)

00:06:926 - try this

for the sake of hand balance
00:11:926 (11926|2,12176|1) - move to 4 and 3
00:13:176 (13176|1) - to 3
00:16:176 (16176|1,17176|1) - ^
00:18:051 (18051|0) - ^

00:34:426 (34426|2,34676|1) - ctrl+H
00:35:676 (35676|1,35926|2) - ^
00:36:426 (36426|2,36676|1) - ^

00:46:426 - do this


00:50:426 (50426|3,50676|2,50926|3,51176|2,51426|1,51676|0,51926|1,52176|2) - do the same as above
00:54:426 (54426|2,54676|1) - ctrl+H
00:55:676 (55676|1,55926|2,56426|2,56676|1) - ^

01:06:426 (66426|3,66676|2,66926|1,67176|2,67426|1,67676|0,67926|1,68176|2) - same as 00:46:426
01:10:426 (70426|3,70676|2,70926|1,71176|2,71426|1,71676|0,71926|1,72176|2) - ^
01:20:926 (80926|2,81176|1) - move one column to the left (give chance to the left)
01:22:676 (82676|1) - to 1 (pitch?)
01:23:926 (83926|2,84176|1) - move one column to the left

[Moderato]

HPOD 7.5 please

00:07:176 (7176|1,7426|2) - ctrl+h
for balance
00:07:676 (7676|3) - move to 3
00:07:926 (7926|2) - move to 1

00:18:176 (18176|2,18259|1,18342|2,18426|1,18509|2,18592|1,18676|2,18759|1,18842|2,18926|1,19009|2,19092|1) - oh god, please nerf this one, make it 1/3 or make it 2 LN's. I know this sound harsh but you know this is too hard for beginners, especially for those only passed Normal diffs.
00:20:176 (20176|1,20259|2,20342|1,20426|2,20509|1,20592|2,20676|1,20759|2,20842|1,20926|2,21009|1,21092|2) - ^
01:14:176 (74176|2,74259|1,74342|2,74426|1,74509|2,74592|1,74676|2,74759|1,74842|2,74926|1,75009|2,75092|1,76176|1,76259|2,76342|1,76426|2,76509|1,76592|2,76676|1,76759|2,76842|1,76926|2,77009|1,77092|2) - ^
01:19:926 (79926|2,80176|1) - move one column to the left
01:20:926 (80926|1,80926|2) - ^ but to the right


[Allegro]

HPOD 8 please

00:11:176 (11176|0) - move to 4
00:13:926 (13926|0,14051|1) - move to 2 and 3(hand balance)
00:15:926 (15926|1) - move to 4
00:18:176 (18176|3,18176|1,18259|2,18342|3,18426|2,18509|3,18592|2,18676|3,18759|2,18842|3,18926|2,19009|3,19092|2,19176|3) - this kind of pattern makes me failed on accuracy, re-arrange if needed or just do this
00:20:176 (20176|3,20259|2,20342|3,20426|2,20509|3,20592|2,20676|3,20759|2,20842|3,20926|2,21009|3,21092|2,21176|3,21176|0,21176|1) - same suggestion as above
01:14:176 (74176|0,74176|2,74259|1,74342|0,74426|1,74509|0,74592|1,74676|0,74759|1,74842|0,74926|1,75009|0,75092|1,75176|0,75176|3,76176|0,76259|1,76342|0,76426|1,76509|0,76592|1,76676|0,76759|1,76842|0,76926|1,77009|0,77092|1,77176|0,77176|2,77176|3) - ^

okay not gonna touch the other ones since it plays very well

that's all GL~
Chronocide
236 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Chronocide

JamesHappy wrote:

I'll post the mods tomorrow

m4m yo

mods inside
|1|2|3|4|

[Adante]

HP7 OD7 please (HPOD8 is too harsh for beginner)

00:06:926 - try this

for the sake of hand balance
00:11:926 (11926|2,12176|1) - move to 4 and 3
00:13:176 (13176|1) - to 3
00:16:176 (16176|1,17176|1) - ^
00:18:051 (18051|0) - ^

00:34:426 (34426|2,34676|1) - ctrl+H
00:35:676 (35676|1,35926|2) - ^
00:36:426 (36426|2,36676|1) - ^

00:46:426 - do this


00:50:426 (50426|3,50676|2,50926|3,51176|2,51426|1,51676|0,51926|1,52176|2) - do the same as above
00:54:426 (54426|2,54676|1) - ctrl+H
00:55:676 (55676|1,55926|2,56426|2,56676|1) - ^

01:06:426 (66426|3,66676|2,66926|1,67176|2,67426|1,67676|0,67926|1,68176|2) - same as 00:46:426
01:10:426 (70426|3,70676|2,70926|1,71176|2,71426|1,71676|0,71926|1,72176|2) - ^
01:20:926 (80926|2,81176|1) - move one column to the left (give chance to the left)
01:22:676 (82676|1) - to 1 (pitch?)
01:23:926 (83926|2,84176|1) - move one column to the left

[Moderato]

HPOD 7.5 please

00:07:176 (7176|1,7426|2) - ctrl+h
for balance
00:07:676 (7676|3) - move to 3
00:07:926 (7926|2) - move to 1

00:18:176 (18176|2,18259|1,18342|2,18426|1,18509|2,18592|1,18676|2,18759|1,18842|2,18926|1,19009|2,19092|1) - oh god, please nerf this one, make it 1/3 or make it 2 LN's. I know this sound harsh but you know this is too hard for beginners, especially for those only passed Normal diffs.
00:20:176 (20176|1,20259|2,20342|1,20426|2,20509|1,20592|2,20676|1,20759|2,20842|1,20926|2,21009|1,21092|2) - ^
01:14:176 (74176|2,74259|1,74342|2,74426|1,74509|2,74592|1,74676|2,74759|1,74842|2,74926|1,75009|2,75092|1,76176|1,76259|2,76342|1,76426|2,76509|1,76592|2,76676|1,76759|2,76842|1,76926|2,77009|1,77092|2) - ^
01:19:926 (79926|2,80176|1) - move one column to the left
01:20:926 (80926|1,80926|2) - ^ but to the right


[Allegro]

HPOD 8 please

00:11:176 (11176|0) - move to 4
00:13:926 (13926|0,14051|1) - move to 2 and 3(hand balance)
00:15:926 (15926|1) - move to 4
00:18:176 (18176|3,18176|1,18259|2,18342|3,18426|2,18509|3,18592|2,18676|3,18759|2,18842|3,18926|2,19009|3,19092|2,19176|3) - this kind of pattern makes me failed on accuracy, re-arrange if needed or just do this
00:20:176 (20176|3,20259|2,20342|3,20426|2,20509|3,20592|2,20676|3,20759|2,20842|3,20926|2,21009|3,21092|2,21176|3,21176|0,21176|1) - same suggestion as above
01:14:176 (74176|0,74176|2,74259|1,74342|0,74426|1,74509|0,74592|1,74676|0,74759|1,74842|0,74926|1,75009|0,75092|1,75176|0,75176|3,76176|0,76259|1,76342|0,76426|1,76509|0,76592|1,76676|0,76759|1,76842|0,76926|1,77009|0,77092|1,77176|0,77176|2,77176|3) - ^

okay not gonna touch the other ones since it plays very well

that's all GL~
Thanks for the mod! Applied all of it :)
Kuki
722 posts
Joined October 2013
Kuki
Yo, IRC check over all diffs 8-)

SPOILER
2015-10-27 21:17 Han Solo: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/758599 Hasegawa Tomoki - Zetsubou no Minuet (Piano)]
2015-10-27 21:17 Kuki: ye
2015-10-27 21:17 Han Solo: It's as good as finished
2015-10-27 21:17 Kuki: oh cool i like this
2015-10-27 21:17 Kuki: played it in standard
2015-10-27 21:18 Han Solo: Full keysound
2015-10-27 21:18 Han Solo: Same
2015-10-27 21:18 Han Solo: Thought it needed a mania version :P
2015-10-27 21:18 Kuki: nice
2015-10-27 21:18 Kuki: yeah hahah
2015-10-27 21:19 Han Solo: And the keysounds are an added bonus :)
2015-10-27 21:19 Han Solo: That took me so goddamn long
2015-10-27 21:20 Kuki: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/758598 Hasegawa Tomoki - Zetsubou no Minuet (Piano) [Allegro]]
2015-10-27 21:20 Kuki: yeah hahah
2015-10-27 21:20 Kuki: how'd you do em?
2015-10-27 21:20 Kuki: 00:59:426 (59426|1,59426|0,59551|2,59676|1,59676|0) - idk but maybe this should just be a single?
2015-10-27 21:20 Kuki: not sure
2015-10-27 21:20 Han Solo: I have a piano soundfont and a midi file
2015-10-27 21:20 Han Solo: Take the midi file, read what note it is
2015-10-27 21:20 Han Solo: Rip the piano sound from the soundfont
2015-10-27 21:21 Han Solo: Export that as wav
2015-10-27 21:21 Han Solo: And use that as keysound
2015-10-27 21:21 Kuki: oh far out
2015-10-27 21:21 Kuki: 00:59:676 (59676|0) - i think deleting this looks better there
2015-10-27 21:21 Kuki: idk what do you think
2015-10-27 21:21 Han Solo: Hold on
2015-10-27 21:21 Han Solo: The first one
2015-10-27 21:21 Han Solo: Should be like that
2015-10-27 21:21 Kuki: it's the same thing i'm talking about there too
2015-10-27 21:21 Han Solo: But the notes need to be turned around lol
2015-10-27 21:21 Kuki: yeah
2015-10-27 21:21 Kuki: lol
2015-10-27 21:22 Han Solo: Maybe I'll do single
2015-10-27 21:22 Han Solo: It's double in the midi, that's why :P
2015-10-27 21:22 Han Solo: But, as you can hear
2015-10-27 21:22 Kuki: ah
2015-10-27 21:22 Han Solo: The keysounds are a bit off
2015-10-27 21:22 Kuki: yeah
2015-10-27 21:22 Han Solo: I don't have the same samples as the song ><
2015-10-27 21:23 Han Solo: But! You can play the song without the music
2015-10-27 21:23 Han Solo: And it still sounds like the song :)
2015-10-27 21:23 Kuki: 01:27:176 - maybe add an extra note in the second column here to emphasise the last(ish) note
2015-10-27 21:23 Han Solo: And that's what I found the most important
2015-10-27 21:23 Kuki: yeah that's cool
2015-10-27 21:25 Han Solo: I tried
2015-10-27 21:25 Han Solo: single single double
2015-10-27 21:26 Kuki: mk
2015-10-27 21:26 Kuki: that's aight
2015-10-27 21:26 Han Solo: But then you don't get the octave
2015-10-27 21:26 Kuki: ACTION is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/758599 Hasegawa Tomoki - Zetsubou no Minuet (Piano) [Moderato]]
2015-10-27 21:26 Kuki: yeah
2015-10-27 21:26 Kuki: can you do two doubles or would that be weird
2015-10-27 21:26 Han Solo: Hold on
2015-10-27 21:28 Han Solo: Yea
2015-10-27 21:28 Kuki: 01:26:926 (86926|3,87051|2,87051|1,87176|0) - single single double here ayy
2015-10-27 21:28 Han Solo: That can work
2015-10-27 21:28 Han Solo: I'll add that
2015-10-27 21:28 Kuki: alright coolio
2015-10-27 21:30 Han Solo: I also forgot the LN there ><
2015-10-27 21:31 Han Solo: 01:26:176 (86176|3) -
2015-10-27 21:31 Kuki: 01:32:926 (92926|1,93051|2,93176|3) - ctrl g might look look here
2015-10-27 21:31 Han Solo: I might make that a double too
2015-10-27 21:31 Kuki: okay
2015-10-27 21:31 Kuki: i think that'd be good
2015-10-27 21:31 Han Solo: Oh
2015-10-27 21:31 Han Solo: OH
2015-10-27 21:31 Han Solo: KUKI
2015-10-27 21:31 Han Solo: 1-2-3 3-2-1 1-2-3
2015-10-27 21:31 Han Solo: IS ACTUALLy
2015-10-27 21:32 Han Solo: PRETTY SEXY PATTERN
2015-10-27 21:32 Han Solo: No, wait
2015-10-27 21:32 Han Solo: 1-2-3, 1-2-3, 3-2-1 is better
2015-10-27 21:32 Han Solo: I like your way of thinking :O
2015-10-27 21:32 Kuki: hahah
2015-10-27 21:32 Kuki: i'm glad
2015-10-27 21:32 Kuki: maybe i won't be such a garbage mania modder
2015-10-27 21:32 Kuki: i need to play it more
2015-10-27 21:32 Han Solo: But, does that work on Allegro as well?
2015-10-27 21:32 Kuki: and edit maps
2015-10-27 21:32 Han Solo: With the LN's?
2015-10-27 21:32 Han Solo: Yea
2015-10-27 21:32 Kuki: sorry what are LNs
2015-10-27 21:32 Kuki: lol
2015-10-27 21:32 Han Solo: Holds
2015-10-27 21:32 Han Solo: LN = Long Notes
2015-10-27 21:33 Han Solo: :P
2015-10-27 21:33 Kuki: oh
2015-10-27 21:33 Kuki: lmao
2015-10-27 21:33 Han Solo: Officially, they're called holds, but everybody calls em LN
2015-10-27 21:33 Kuki: yeah i think so
2015-10-27 21:33 Kuki: probably cause of o2jam or somethin
2015-10-27 21:33 Kuki: lol idk
2015-10-27 21:33 Kuki: i think it would work tho
2015-10-27 21:34 Kuki: 00:30:926 (30926|3,31051|2,31051|1,31176|0) - single single double again
2015-10-27 21:34 Kuki: lol
2015-10-27 21:34 Han Solo: I'll try
2015-10-27 21:34 Kuki: idk what do you think about that
2015-10-27 21:34 Han Solo: Already edited that :O
2015-10-27 21:34 Han Solo: *:P
2015-10-27 21:34 Kuki: lol
2015-10-27 21:34 Han Solo: With the LN's, wont work
2015-10-27 21:35 Kuki: alright
2015-10-27 21:35 Kuki: 00:53:176 (53176|1) - double here?
2015-10-27 21:35 Han Solo: https://gyazo.com/5d577cfefee179848fced146c98c768a
2015-10-27 21:35 Kuki: sounds like a double to me
2015-10-27 21:35 Han Solo: Pretty awkward pattern :O
2015-10-27 21:35 Kuki: yeah i see that
2015-10-27 21:35 Han Solo: Yea
2015-10-27 21:35 Han Solo: It's a double, right?
2015-10-27 21:35 Kuki: yea
2015-10-27 21:36 Han Solo: Maybe I'll do something like this
2015-10-27 21:36 Han Solo: https://gyazo.com/c8984a093a1a519c33289883e5772820
2015-10-27 21:36 Han Solo: To emphasize that cello a bit more
2015-10-27 21:37 Kuki: yeah
2015-10-27 21:37 Kuki: seems to me main focus is on piano
2015-10-27 21:37 Kuki: but i reckon you could do that
2015-10-27 21:37 Kuki: it depends on what you think
2015-10-27 21:37 Han Solo: Mmh
2015-10-27 21:38 Han Solo: Nah, I avoided LN's in Moderato as much as possible
2015-10-27 21:38 Han Solo: Won't add em
2015-10-27 21:38 Kuki: aight
Frim4503
2,067 posts
Joined July 2013
Frim4503

Col : 1,2,3,4,5,6,7
m4m (maybe)

[General]
-BG : ok
-Mp3 : ok
-Hitsound : ok
-Difficulty : idk about that diff name is ok or not. cuz i can't differ it
-AI Mod : ok
-Comments : the filesize is too big

Allegro
00:09:176 (9176|3) - move to 2. more confortable and follow the song
00:10:176 (10176|1) - ^3
00:13:676 (13676|0) - change this to LN. cuz you use LN for 00:12:676 (12676|0) - that have same sound
00:11:676 (11676|0) - move to 4. not same like prev. note
00:23:676 (23676|0) - move to 3. too many note is col. 1
00:35:926 (35926|3) - move to 1. more confortable and follow the song perfect
00:39:926 (39926|1) - ^4
00:55:926 (55926|3) - ^ 1
00:59:926 (59926|1) - move this to 4 or 01:00:176 (60176|2) -
01:19:676 (79676|0) - move to 3
other seem ok
sorry just 1 diff
good luck
Aruel
1,891 posts
Joined February 2014
Aruel


Hi Han! Mod from your M4M!

|1|2|3|4|

[General]
▶BG: No problem but I just recommend 1366x768
▶MP3: No problem
▶Spread: No problem
▶AI mod: No problem
▶Audio and Hitsound: No problem
▶Timing: No problem
▶Etc: Turn off the Wide screen support if you don't use the SB
The real song's name should be 絶望のメヌエット (Piano Ver.)
also the Artist name should be 長谷川智樹
You can add the tags Piano Zoku Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei original soundtrack
[Adante]
00:07:176 (7176|2,7426|1,7676|2) - Ctrl + H this notes. For balance. You're using 00:06:676 (6676|2,7176|2,7676|2) - The three notes on this column. but 00:07:426 (7426|1) - This 2 column seems lonely right? So I just recommend it for more good balance. If you applied this. The all columns have been use evenly.

00:12:551 (12551|2,12676|1) - Just recommend to make this 1-4 column. for more comfortable pattern. let see this.
00:11:676 - ~ 00:14:051 - You can see the 1 column is empty for a loooooong time. but on the other hand. 00:12:176 (12176|2,12551|2,13176|2,13551|2) - It's too long and too heavy just on 3 column. So if you follow this. The beginner players will able to play this more comfortably. or. maybe. If it's your pattern for 00:13:176 (13176|2,13551|2,13676|1) - This. 00:12:551 (12551|2,12676|1,13551|2,13676|1) - Just I suggest to Ctrl + H because For remove the jacks like 00:12:176 (12176|2,12551|2) - This. kinda hard on easy diff. Isn't it? :>

00:16:551 (16551|2,16676|1,17551|2,17676|1) - Same as above. Same pattern XD I think I don't have to explain this the twice :)

00:31:051 (31051|1,31051|2) - Actually I know already this two notes are for the hitsounds. but the beginner's hands are will be mess. It's too hard just in my opinion. hmm... so I thought which patterns are good for playing while maintain the chords. How about this?
This

00:44:176 (44176|0,44176|2,44676|1,44676|3,45176|2,45176|0,45676|1,45676|3,46176|2) - How about Ctrl + H this part? It's kinda boring for playing. just repeat pattern from 00:42:176 - Here until 00:46:176 - Here. If you Ctrl + H on this part. It will be more interesting for playing. and actually It's not hard.

01:20:176 (80176|2) - Just suggest to move to 1 column this note. It's kinda more given on 3 column but 1 column seems REALLY lonely ;w; so it just for balance. It will be more good for playing.
[Moderato]
00:16:176 (16176|1,16551|1,16676|0,17176|1,17551|1,17676|0) - I just suggest to make this part Ctrl +H. Because 00:12:176 (12176|1,12551|1,12676|0,13176|1,13551|1,13676|0) - This same part also uses left hand. maybe you were considering about pitch but. Maybe some peoples will feel the heavy notes on left hand. So I just suggest this for balance and not destroy your patterns.

00:29:176 - Add a one note on this timing. for remove some awkward. 00:25:176 - This part has kinda similar sound with this timing but different chord. If you add a note on column 4. It will makes more good balance.

00:41:551 (41551|2) - About this jack. maybe you want to make this jack for pitch. but on your chart. It doesn't have the jack for pitch. also I thought it's not good. I couldn't feel this jack when I was playing this. Just suggest to move to 4. That was more better for playing.

00:50:176 (50176|0) - I don't think this note should be on column 1. Because 00:49:926 (49926|0,50176|0) - It has different pitch also If you move to column 2. It will makes more good balance! seems column 2,4 has been empty for a long time but if you move to column 4. It will break this balance due to 00:50:426 (50426|3,50676|3) - This notes. It should be heavy just on column 4. on the other hand. column 4 doesn't have any heavy notes also jack.

01:10:176 (70176|0) - Just same as above. really same pattern perfectly with 00:50:176 (50176|0) - This reason. as I said. I recommend to move to column 2.

[Allegro]
00:13:676 (13676|0) - It should be extended to 00:14:176 - Here. the main piano symbol sound has been change to 00:14:176 - here. also 00:17:676 (17676|0) - This part is same sound but you used the 1/1 LN.

00:22:426 (22426|0) - Move to 2. actually 00:22:426 (22426|0,22676|0,22926|0) - It's kinda not good just see it. isn't it? makes feel it's hammer pattern. I just recommend it for more distribution the notes. also you used really similar pattern which I suggested on. 00:26:426 (26426|1)

00:44:176 (44176|0,44176|3,44426|1,44676|0,44676|2,44926|1,45176|3,45176|0,45426|1,45676|0,45676|2,45926|1) - Ctrl + H this notes. for more fun to play. it's too repeat for a long time. It will makes players bored. if you Ctrl + H on this part. It will be more good to playing. also It's not became a hard.

00:46:176 - Seems you missed the note on this timing. Your other difficulties are using the note on this timing.

01:04:176 (64176|3,64176|0,64426|1,64676|2,64676|0,64926|1,65176|0,65176|3,65426|1,65676|0,65676|2,65926|1) - It's the same reason with 00:44:176 - part. I don't explain twice because it's just same patterns. XD

01:06:176 - Also. you missed the note on this timing. Other difficulties are all using notes on this timing point.

01:31:926 - I just want to recommend this for more good unaffected pattern and fun to playing. How about this?
This

hmm... Seems patterns are kinda repeat. about all difficulties...
It will make players bored to playing. hmm... Why I say about this...
First I just considered about pitch but pitches aren't fit overall. It can be a reason.
It means. You don't care about pitch and just stacked the notes.
So I just consider it when I was modding it. actually I don't like pitch too XD
just want to more fun to play also more good balance!! I hope you will improve your patterns with my mod!

Good luck for rank! :)
Last edited by Aruel , edited 1 time in total.
Chronocide
236 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Chronocide

Frim4503 wrote:


Col : 1,2,3,4,5,6,7
m4m (maybe)

[General]
-BG : ok
-Mp3 : ok
-Hitsound : ok
-Difficulty : idk about that diff name is ok or not. cuz i can't differ it
-AI Mod : ok
-Comments : the filesize is too big

Allegro
00:09:176 (9176|3) - move to 2. more confortable and follow the song - Added
00:10:176 (10176|1) - ^3 - ^
00:13:676 (13676|0) - change this to LN. cuz you use LN for 00:12:676 (12676|0) - that have same sound - ^
00:11:676 (11676|0) - move to 4. not same like prev. note - ^
00:23:676 (23676|0) - move to 3. too many note is col. 1 - Added, and changed the following pattern as well
00:35:926 (35926|3) - move to 1. more confortable and follow the song perfect - Changed, but different
00:39:926 (39926|1) - ^4 - Changed, but different
00:55:926 (55926|3) - ^ 1 - Changed, but different
00:59:926 (59926|1) - move this to 4 or 01:00:176 (60176|2) - Changed, but different
01:19:676 (79676|0) - move to 3 - Changed, but different
other seem ok
sorry just 1 diff
good luck
Thanks for the mod!
DeletedUser_259972
DeletedUser_259972
Hi, Han Solo! Requested from my queue :)

Wow, this map was sooooo perfect!
It will be so bad mod sorry :o

1|2|3|4


[Overall]

How about adding new timing point at 00:10:176 - ? Because new measure changes?


[Adante]

Isn't this Andante? :?

00:12:551 (12551|2,12676|1) - Move to left by 1 column
00:16:551 (16551|2,16676|1) - ^

00:13:176 (13176|2) - Move to 4
00:17:176 (17176|2) - ^

00:19:176 (19176|0) - Move to 2

01:20:926 (80926|2,81176|1) - Move to left by 1 column


[Moderato]

00:02:426 (2426|3,2676|2) - Move to left by 1 column

00:04:926 (4926|2,5176|1) - Move to right by 1 column and 00:05:176 (5176|3) - Move this to 1 and Extend until 00:06:426 -

00:08:176 (8176|3) - Extend this until 00:09:176 -

00:11:676 (11676|0) - Move to 4

00:13:176 (13176|1,13551|1,13676|0) - Move to left by 2 column
00:17:176 (17176|1,17551|1,17676|0) - ^

00:29:176 (29176|2) - Make this LN until 00:30:176 -

00:39:801 (39801|2,40176|2) - Move to 4
00:49:426 (49426|0,49926|0) - ^
00:53:426 (53426|0,53926|0) - ^

00:54:176 (54176|2) - Move to 2

00:56:176 (56176|2,56301|3,56426|0) - Ctrl+H

00:59:801 (59801|2,60176|2) - Move to 4
01:09:426 (69426|0,69926|0) - ^
01:13:426 (73426|0,73926|0) - ^

01:24:926 (84926|0,84926|1,85176|0,85176|2) - Ctrl+H


[Allegro]

00:05:176 (5176|0,5176|1) - Extend until 00:06:426 -
00:08:176 (8176|2,8176|3) - Extend until 00:09:176 -

00:12:176 (12176|2,12426|0,12551|1) - Move to left by 1 column
00:16:176 (16176|2,16426|0,16551|1) - ^

00:13:176 (13176|2,13426|0,13551|1) - Maybe Ctrl+H? or Move to left by 1 column
00:17:176 (17176|2,17426|0,17551|1) - ^

00:16:926 (16926|1) - Move to 4

00:44:176 (44176|3,44176|0,44426|2,44676|3,44676|1,44926|2,45176|0,45176|3,45426|2,45676|3,45676|1,45926|2) - Ctrl+H?
01:04:176 (64176|3,64176|0,64426|1,64676|0,64676|2,64926|1,65176|3,65176|0,65426|1,65676|2,65676|0,65926|1) - ^

00:46:176 - Add
01:06:176 - ^

01:16:176 (76176|2,76259|1,76342|2,76426|1,76509|2,76592|1,76676|2,76759|1,76842|2,76926|1,77009|2,77092|1,77176|3,77176|2,77176|0) - Ctrl+H

End of poor mod

Here's 2 kudosu star for ya! PEWPEW

GL!!
Chronocide
236 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Chronocide

jakads wrote:

Hi, Han Solo! Requested from my queue :)

Wow, this map was sooooo perfect!
It will be so bad mod sorry :o

1|2|3|4


[Overall]

How about adding new timing point at 00:10:176 - ? Because new measure changes? - Yea, sure, why not?


Adante
Isn't this Andante? :? - I feel so silly right now ><

00:12:551 (12551|2,12676|1) - Move to left by 1 column - Won't add. 00:12:551 (12551|2) is on a 1/4, it would confuse the player if I would move it to the left
00:16:551 (16551|2,16676|1) - ^ - ^

00:13:176 (13176|2) - Move to 4 - ^
00:17:176 (17176|2) - ^ - ^

00:19:176 (19176|0) - Move to 2 - 00:19:176 (19176|1) puts more emphasis on the lower pitch, I feel

01:20:926 (80926|2,81176|1) - Move to left by 1 column - Same as the previous suggestions


Moderato
00:02:426 (2426|3,2676|2) - Move to left by 1 column - Mmh, sure

00:04:926 (4926|2,5176|1) - Move to right by 1 column and 00:05:176 (5176|3) - Move this to 1 and Extend until 00:06:426 - Yea, I like that

00:08:176 (8176|3) - Extend this until 00:09:176 - Won't add, the long note doesn't extend that long (and plays better this way)

00:11:676 (11676|0) - Move to 4 - Won't add, that pattern would break up the downward stairs in the song

00:13:176 (13176|1,13551|1,13676|0) - Move to left by 2 column - These notes have the same pitch as 00:12:176 (12176|1,12551|1,12676|0), so no
00:17:176 (17176|1,17551|1,17676|0) - ^ ^

00:29:176 (29176|2) - Make this LN until 00:30:176 - Added, but different, made it end here 00:29:926 instead (plays better)

00:39:801 (39801|2,40176|2) - Move to 4 - Only moved 00:39:801 (39801|3) to 4
00:49:426 (49426|0,49926|0) - ^ Won't add, 00:49:426 (49426|0,49926|0) are the same pitch (and sound) as 00:48:426 (48426|0,48926|0) + it would play really awkward
00:53:426 (53426|0,53926|0) - ^ - ^

00:54:176 (54176|2) - Move to 2 - No, 3 works better pitch wise 00:53:926 (53926|0) is fairly low compared to 00:54:176 (54176|2), therefore a bigger gap is better

00:56:176 (56176|2,56301|3,56426|0) - Ctrl+H - [color=green4]Added, changed the rest of the pattern as well[/color]

00:59:801 (59801|2,60176|2) - Move to 4 - Only moved 00:59:801 (59801|2) to 4
01:09:426 (69426|0,69926|0) - ^ - Same as the previous suggestion
01:13:426 (73426|0,73926|0) - ^ - ^

01:24:926 (84926|0,84926|1,85176|0,85176|2) - Ctrl+H - Changed pattern instead


Allegro
00:05:176 (5176|0,5176|1) - Extend until 00:06:426 - Feels awkward
00:08:176 (8176|2,8176|3) - Extend until 00:09:176 - ^

00:12:176 (12176|2,12426|0,12551|1) - Move to left by 1 column - Changed pattern instead
00:16:176 (16176|2,16426|0,16551|1) - ^ - Feels off

00:13:176 (13176|2,13426|0,13551|1) - Maybe Ctrl+H? or Move to left by 1 column - ^
00:17:176 (17176|2,17426|0,17551|1) - ^ - ^

00:16:926 (16926|1) - Move to 4 - Added

00:44:176 (44176|3,44176|0,44426|2,44676|3,44676|1,44926|2,45176|0,45176|3,45426|2,45676|3,45676|1,45926|2) - Ctrl+H? - Ctr H'd the entire thing instead
01:04:176 (64176|3,64176|0,64426|1,64676|0,64676|2,64926|1,65176|3,65176|0,65426|1,65676|2,65676|0,65926|1) - ^ - Nope

00:46:176 - Add - No, these are ghost notes
01:06:176 - ^ - ^

01:16:176 (76176|2,76259|1,76342|2,76426|1,76509|2,76592|1,76676|2,76759|1,76842|2,76926|1,77009|2,77092|1,77176|3,77176|2,77176|0) - Ctrl+H - Added!

End of poor mod

Here's 2 kudosu star for ya! PEWPEW

GL!!
Every mod helps! Thanks for the stars! :O
Chronocide
236 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Chronocide

_FrEsH_ChICkEn_ wrote:



Hi Han! Mod from your M4M!

|1|2|3|4|

[General]
▶BG: No problem but I just recommend 1366x768
▶MP3: No problem
▶Spread: No problem
▶AI mod: No problem
▶Audio and Hitsound: No problem
▶Timing: No problem
▶Etc: Turn off the Wide screen support if you don't use the SB
The real song's name should be 絶望のメヌエット (Piano Ver.)
also the Artist name should be 長谷川智樹
You can add the tags Piano Zoku Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei original soundtrack

Adante
00:07:176 (7176|2,7426|1,7676|2) - Ctrl + H this notes. For balance. You're using 00:06:676 (6676|2,7176|2,7676|2) - The three notes on this column. but 00:07:426 (7426|1) - This 2 column seems lonely right? So I just recommend it for more good balance. If you applied this. The all columns have been use evenly.

I see where you're going, but I find your pattern rather strange. I've reworked the pattern (properly balanced)

00:12:551 (12551|2,12676|1) - Just recommend to make this 1-4 column. for more comfortable pattern. let see this.
00:11:676 - ~ 00:14:051 - You can see the 1 column is empty for a loooooong time. but on the other hand. 00:12:176 (12176|2,12551|2,13176|2,13551|2) - It's too long and too heavy just on 3 column. So if you follow this. The beginner players will able to play this more comfortably. or. maybe. If it's your pattern for 00:13:176 (13176|2,13551|2,13676|1) - This. 00:12:551 (12551|2,12676|1,13551|2,13676|1) - Just I suggest to Ctrl + H because For remove the jacks like 00:12:176 (12176|2,12551|2) - This. kinda hard on easy diff. Isn't it? :>

Completely re-balanced

00:16:551 (16551|2,16676|1,17551|2,17676|1) - Same as above. Same pattern XD I think I don't have to explain this the twice :)

Applied ;)

00:31:051 (31051|1,31051|2) - Actually I know already this two notes are for the hitsounds. but the beginner's hands are will be mess. It's too hard just in my opinion. hmm... so I thought which patterns are good for playing while maintain the chords. How about this?


I totally agree! That pattern is fun to play and not too hard

00:44:176 (44176|0,44176|2,44676|1,44676|3,45176|2,45176|0,45676|1,45676|3,46176|2) - How about Ctrl + H this part? It's kinda boring for playing. just repeat pattern from 00:42:176 - Here until 00:46:176 - Here. If you Ctrl + H on this part. It will be more interesting for playing. and actually It's not hard.

I disagree on boring, and alternating them midway would make no sense pitch-wise. The pitches keep alternating, and so do the LN and singles notes.

01:20:176 (80176|2) - Just suggest to move to 1 column this note. It's kinda more given on 3 column but 1 column seems REALLY lonely ;w; so it just for balance. It will be more good for playing.

Mmh, yes, agreed
Moderato
00:16:176 (16176|1,16551|1,16676|0,17176|1,17551|1,17676|0) - I just suggest to make this part Ctrl +H. Because 00:12:176 (12176|1,12551|1,12676|0,13176|1,13551|1,13676|0) - This same part also uses left hand. maybe you were considering about pitch but. Maybe some peoples will feel the heavy notes on left hand. So I just suggest this for balance and not destroy your patterns.

I used a different pattern instead

00:29:176 - Add a one note on this timing. for remove some awkward. 00:25:176 - This part has kinda similar sound with this timing but different chord. If you add a note on column 4. It will makes more good balance.

Technically a ghost note (the note doesn't appear in the actual song), but plays better, added

00:41:551 (41551|2) - About this jack. maybe you want to make this jack for pitch. but on your chart. It doesn't have the jack for pitch. also I thought it's not good. I couldn't feel this jack when I was playing this. Just suggest to move to 4. That was more better for playing.

Agreed!

00:50:176 (50176|0) - I don't think this note should be on column 1. Because 00:49:926 (49926|0,50176|0) - It has different pitch also If you move to column 2. It will makes more good balance! seems column 2,4 has been empty for a long time but if you move to column 4. It will break this balance due to 00:50:426 (50426|3,50676|3) - This notes. It should be heavy just on column 4. on the other hand. column 4 doesn't have any heavy notes also jack.

^

01:10:176 (70176|0) - Just same as above. really same pattern perfectly with 00:50:176 (50176|0) - This reason. as I said. I recommend to move to column 2.

^

Allegro
00:13:676 (13676|0) - It should be extended to 00:14:176 - Here. the main piano symbol sound has been change to 00:14:176 - here. also 00:17:676 (17676|0) - This part is same sound but you used the 1/1 LN.

Yes, true, but extending the LN to there would make the pattern rather confusing due to this 00:14:051 (14051|1) note. Forcing that note on the right hand would be even worse (mini trill).

00:22:426 (22426|0) - Move to 2. actually 00:22:426 (22426|0,22676|0,22926|0) - It's kinda not good just see it. isn't it? makes feel it's hammer pattern. I just recommend it for more distribution the notes. also you used really similar pattern which I suggested on. 00:26:426 (26426|1)

Yes, agreed. Rearranged that pattern

00:44:176 (44176|0,44176|3,44426|1,44676|0,44676|2,44926|1,45176|3,45176|0,45426|1,45676|0,45676|2,45926|1) - Ctrl + H this notes. for more fun to play. it's too repeat for a long time. It will makes players bored. if you Ctrl + H on this part. It will be more good to playing. also It's not became a hard.

Same as in Andante, I disagree. Pitch-wise, it would make no sense to Ctr + H there, since the note constantly alternate (therefore, LN on left, single on right). In this case, I find pitch more important than being repetitive.

00:46:176 - Seems you missed the note on this timing. Your other difficulties are using the note on this timing.

Whoops

01:04:176 (64176|3,64176|0,64426|1,64676|2,64676|0,64926|1,65176|0,65176|3,65426|1,65676|0,65676|2,65926|1) - It's the same reason with 00:44:176 - part. I don't explain twice because it's just same patterns. XD

Same as above

01:06:176 - Also. you missed the note on this timing. Other difficulties are all using notes on this timing point.

Whoops

01:31:926 - I just want to recommend this for more good unaffected pattern and fun to playing. How about this?

Considered doing this a while back, wonder why I didn't add this
This

hmm... Seems patterns are kinda repeat. about all difficulties...
It will make players bored to playing. hmm... Why I say about this...
First I just considered about pitch but pitches aren't fit overall. It can be a reason.
It means. You don't care about pitch and just stacked the notes.
So I just consider it when I was modding it. actually I don't like pitch too XD
just want to more fun to play also more good balance!! I hope you will improve your patterns with my mod!

Good luck for rank! :)
Thanks, very helpful mod! Thanks!
ninevdk
1 post
Joined February 2015
ninevdk
Modding sessie w/slet :3
Mod
[20:37:14] Han Solo: Begin met Andante
[20:37:25] Ninevdk: zonder HD heb ik allegro nog nie gespeelt tho
[20:39:32] Han Solo: Thanks for playtest
[20:39:34] Han Solo: Zag al een fout
[20:39:50] Han Solo: Wat vind je van dat begin
[20:39:54] Han Solo: Met de
[20:39:56] Han Solo: Uhm...
[20:40:00] Han Solo: 1-3 3-1
[20:40:12] Han Solo: Zegt je niks natuurlijk xD
[20:40:16] Ninevdk: nope
[20:40:18] Han Solo: Was er iets
[20:40:24] Han Solo: Dat niet klopte?
[20:40:28] Ninevdk: uuuh
[20:40:30] Han Solo: Of niet lekker speelde
[20:40:48] Ninevdk: t viel me op dat t einde anders was maar da kwam omdat ik m vaker had gespeeld
[20:40:54] Ninevdk: verder nix
[20:40:58] Han Solo: Ja, 123-321-123
[20:41:02] Ninevdk: ja
[20:41:06] Han Solo: Vind je dat beter dan 123-123-123?
[20:41:13] Ninevdk: opzich
[20:41:20] Ninevdk: maar ik verwachte t nie XD
[20:41:27] Han Solo: Ok
[20:41:35] Ninevdk: next?
[20:41:35] Han Solo: Volgende ^^
[20:42:10] Han Solo: Dat
[20:42:12] Han Solo: Dat stukje
[20:42:15] Ninevdk: wtffffff
[20:42:17] Han Solo: Du dudu du dudu
[20:42:21] Ninevdk: ik verwachte die andere
[20:42:26] Ninevdk: en ik kreeg dat
[20:42:28] Ninevdk: XD
[20:42:31] Han Solo: Haha
[20:42:40] Han Solo: IIG, dat stukje du dudu du dudu is nieuw
[20:42:42] Han Solo: Vind je dat beter?
[20:42:52] Ninevdk: idkkk
[20:42:56] Han Solo: Same
[20:42:59] Ninevdk: w8 ik speel m effe opnieuw
[20:43:01] Han Solo: Ok
[20:43:08] Han Solo: Na het trapje
[20:44:20] Han Solo: Dat stukje, godlike vind ik
[20:44:41] Han Solo: 2 - 1-4 - 3 - 1-4 - 2 - 1-4 - 3 - 1-4
[20:44:44] Han Solo: Zo goed
[20:44:48] Han Solo: ANYWAYS
[20:44:51] Han Solo: Hoe vind je de update?
[20:44:59] Ninevdk: ok dat stukje net voor t einde
[20:45:07] Ninevdk: net voor 123 321 123
[20:45:11] Han Solo: Moment
[20:45:21] Han Solo: Ja?
[20:45:29] Ninevdk: da stukje komt dr 2x in
[20:45:31] Han Solo: 4 - 2-3 - 1-4
[20:45:36] Ninevdk: en is nie echt prachtig
[20:45:39] Han Solo: Ja
[20:45:41] Han Solo: Dacht ik al
[20:45:46] Han Solo: Die pattern in Andante is beter
[20:46:05] Ninevdk: en t gaat ineens heel snel
[20:46:14] Han Solo: Het middenstuk?
[20:46:16] Ninevdk: ja XD idk hoe ik t moet uitleggen
[20:46:16] Ninevdk: ja
[20:46:28] Han Solo: Dat kan ik niet langzamer maken
[20:46:32] Ninevdk: snap ik
[20:46:39] Ninevdk: maar t was n surprise
[20:46:41] Han Solo: Hasha
[20:46:42] Han Solo: *Hahah
[20:46:46] Han Solo: En de doubles?
[20:46:51] Han Solo: Zijn die speelbaar?
[20:47:21] Ninevdk: ja ik heb moeite met veell doubles achter elkaar en ga dan gwn op de maat spammen XD
[20:47:35] Han Solo: Mja, zijn octaven, dus doe ze toch niet weg ;)
[20:47:48] Ninevdk: XD
[20:47:49] Han Solo: En verder?
[20:47:55] Ninevdk: uuuuuh
[20:48:33] Ninevdk: ja dat stukje du dudu du dudu was wel apart maar da kwam denk ik door nieuwigheid
[20:48:40] Ninevdk: is uniek
[20:48:46] Han Solo: Ik vind het echt heel stom spelen
[20:49:05] Han Solo: Want het heeft hetzelfde geluid, maar zit op andere plek
[20:49:17] Han Solo: Als ik de banen 1-2-3-4 noem, snap je me wel
[20:49:21] Ninevdk: ja
[20:49:25] Han Solo: Ik heb nu 2 1 3
[20:49:29] Han Solo: Voorheen was het 2 2 3
[20:49:43] Han Solo: Ach
[20:49:51] Ninevdk: da moet je gen zelf kiezn
[20:49:52] Han Solo: Ja
[20:50:00] Han Solo: Ok
[20:50:01] Han Solo: Op naar Allegro
[20:50:06] Han Solo: Daar is redelijk wat verandert
[20:50:09] Han Solo: Volgens mij
[20:50:10] Han Solo: xD
[20:50:25] Ninevdk: nog niet zonder HD gespeelt maar he ill try
[20:50:34] Han Solo: Ik kan zelf ook niet boven 96% acc
[20:51:20] Han Solo: Damn, jij acet die trill?
[20:51:22] Han Solo: Netjes
[20:51:27] Ninevdk: ?
[20:51:29] Han Solo: Nvm
[20:51:32] Han Solo: Keep going :3
[20:52:37] Ninevdk: zonder HD is di zo andersssssssss
[20:52:38] Han Solo: Mooi
[20:52:42] Han Solo: Jij doet die triples
[20:52:45] Han Solo: Met quads xD
[20:52:48] Ninevdk: ssssssst
[20:53:48] Ninevdk: tmw
[20:53:54] Ninevdk: je die laatste eerder loslaat
[20:53:59] Ninevdk: hey man i tried
[20:54:01] Han Solo: Ok
[20:54:04] Han Solo: Nu met HD?
[20:54:13] Ninevdk: can try
[20:54:27] Ninevdk: maar met HD had ik net ook nie hoger als B
[20:54:29] Ninevdk: dus idk
[21:02:51] Han Solo: Iets daar dat niet klopte?
[21:02:55] Ninevdk: ja
[21:03:00] Ninevdk: einde
[21:03:07] Han Solo: 123-321-123?
[21:03:11] Ninevdk: ja
[21:03:14] Han Solo: Zeker de LN
[21:03:25] Ninevdk: ney die noot net na de LN
[21:03:29] Han Solo: Dacht ik al
[21:03:35] Ninevdk: die echt kan de tyfus krijgen
_underjoy
704 posts
Joined January 2013
_underjoy
Hello!
Mod from Mania Modding Association.

1|2|3|4

Andante
00:02:926 (2926|0,3176|3) - move to 2 and 3 respectively (pitch relevancy)
00:07:176 (7176|1,7426|2) - ctrl+H, same reason (the reason will be pitch from now, unless I state otherwise)
00:08:176 (8176|2) - move to 2, the melody raises slowly.
00:14:051 (14051|1) - move to 1
00:14:176 - I suggest making the section the same as previous due to the same exact sounds. Mainly because that's piano.
00:29:176 (29176|3) - to 3
00:30:926 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062220 (the pattern is more easy-friendly)
00:34:426 (34426|1,34676|2) - ctrl+H
00:35:676 (35676|2,35926|1) - ctrl+H
00:38:176 (38176|1,38426|2,38676|3,38926|0,39176|2,39426|1,39676|0,39926|0) - my suggestion is http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062270
00:40:176 (40176|3) - to 1
00:49:176 (49176|2) - delete, because there is no double note on 00:48:176 - (consistency)
00:50:426 (50426|3) - to 1 (same as previous fragment)
00:53:176 (53176|1) - to 1
00:54:176 - this kiai is exactly the same as previous and I suggest to rearrange it exactly like that (I'm sorry for the pattern diversity, piano songs should be pitch-consequent) (the whole kiai)
01:14:176 (74176|1,75176|3) - swap them
01:16:176 (76176|0,77176|2) - here too
01:18:176 (78176|3,79176|2) - ctrl+J
01:19:926 (79926|3,80926|2) - move those one column to the left
01:20:176 (80176|1,80926|2) - ctrl+H
01:22:676 (82676|0) - I would put this in 2 too.
01:24:176 (84176|0,84926|1,85176|3) - consecutively: to 2, to 1, to 3
01:26:926 - same as in https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062220

Moderato
00:01:176 (1176|1) - there is only one musical note. Delete this one.
00:05:176 (5176|2) - same
00:06:426 (6426|3) - delete
00:07:176 (7176|2,7426|1,7676|2) - move them to 2,3,4 respectively
00:08:176 (8176|3) - delete, and make 00:08:176 (8176|1) - a LN
00:09:176 (9176|1) - move to 4
00:14:051 (14051|2) - to 1
00:14:176 - again this section similar to previous. 00:14:176 (14176|3) - should be on 3 though.
00:23:676 (23676|0,24676|3,27676|0,28676|3) - those are ghost notes, delete.
00:39:926 (39926|1) - move to 1. Nice stream before.
00:40:176 (40176|2) - move to 2.
00:54:176 - I don't want to check it all once again but it should be exact same as first kiai. Apply the changes from first and compare both, eliminating differences.
01:15:176 (75176|3) - make this a LN like before
01:17:176 (77176|0) - this too
01:18:176 - you chose to map differently than 00:22:176 - but it's ok because some variation :P

Allegro
00:12:676 (12676|0) - make this 1/2 shorter
00:17:676 (17676|0) - this too
00:18:176 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062451 Those are the correct snaps for the piano. I know you maybe tried to simplify it but ghost notes are not rankable (especially your second piano note is not audible at all).
00:19:176 (19176|0,19176|3) - swap the LN and the note (consistency with Moderato + pitch)
00:20:176 - the second one. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062436 The second one. Notice the slight difference.
00:23:676 (23676|1,24676|2,27676|1,28676|2) - same as Moderato, ghost notes.
00:23:926 (23926|0) - delete, one note is sufficient here.
00:24:926 (24926|0) - delete, same.
00:25:176 (25176|1,25426|2,25926|2) - move to right for variation, looks better.
00:27:926 (27926|0,28176|2,28176|1,28426|0,28676|2) - arrange it like before.
00:28:926 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062483 use this. The streams flow with pitch better and are more consequent.
00:34:176 - try this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062503
00:36:176 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062513
00:38:926 (38926|2) - to 4
00:39:176 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062523
00:40:176 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062535
00:47:926 (47926|1) - move to 1
00:51:926 (51926|1) - same
00:54:176 - do the same thing with the second kiai.
01:14:176 - do the same thing with the trills (and LNs) as before.
01:18:176 - apply the same changes as in 00:22:176 -
01:26:176 (86176|1,86176|3) - those are sharp short sounds, should end 01:26:426 - here.

Good luck for ranking!
Chronocide
236 posts
Joined December 2014
Topic Starter
Chronocide

_underjoy wrote:

Hello! - Hey!
Mod from Mania Modding Association.

1|2|3|4

Andante
00:02:926 (2926|0,3176|3) - move to 2 and 3 respectively (pitch relevancy) - Fixed, plays better as well
00:07:176 (7176|1,7426|2) - ctrl+H, same reason (the reason will be pitch from now, unless I state otherwise) - Pitch-wise, yes, balance-wise, no. The alternating pattern is easier to play than what you suggested, and this being the easiest difficulty (only being 1,29*) I find that balance is more important that pitch relevancy (to a certain extent, of course)
00:08:176 (8176|2) - move to 2, the melody raises slowly. -Same as above, plus this is more balanced than what you suggested
00:14:051 (14051|1) - move to 1 - Fixed that
00:14:176 - I suggest making the section the same as previous due to the same exact sounds. Mainly because that's piano. - Yes and no, 00:10:176 (10176|1) is a different start than 00:14:051 (14051|0), therefore repeating the pattern would force me to move 00:14:176 (14176|3) to 2, which would be silly, since you suggested "00:14:051 (14051|1) - move to 1" before
00:29:176 (29176|3) - to 3 - Balance > Pitch relevancy
00:30:926 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062220 (the pattern is more easy-friendly) - True, but that would remove 1 note, and that would be an inconsisentcy compared to the other difficutlies
00:34:426 (34426|1,34676|2) - ctrl+H - Pitch-wise yes, playability wise, no. The emphasis in this part is the alternating piano sounds. Doing 1-3 creates the illusion of playing those parts, whilst 1-2-3-4 would sound "off" in that part.
00:35:676 (35676|2,35926|1) - ctrl+H - ^
00:38:176 (38176|1,38426|2,38676|3,38926|0,39176|2,39426|1,39676|0,39926|0) - my suggestion is http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062270 - That does play better, yea
00:40:176 (40176|3) - to 1 - ^
00:49:176 (49176|2) - delete, because there is no double note on 00:48:176 - (consistency) - Fixed that
00:50:426 (50426|3) - to 1 (same as previous fragment) - No, that note has the same sound as 00:50:676 (50676|3)
00:53:176 (53176|1) - to 1 - Fixed
00:54:176 - this kiai is exactly the same as previous and I suggest to rearrange it exactly like that (I'm sorry for the pattern diversity, piano songs should be pitch-consequent) (the whole kiai) - Pitch-wise, you're right. However, pitch isn't the only thing that matters in a chart, especially on the easiest difficulty. I find playabality / balance more important than pitch in this chart, so I won't do that.
01:14:176 (74176|1,75176|3) - swap them - Fixed
01:16:176 (76176|0,77176|2) - here too - ^
01:18:176 (78176|3,79176|2) - ctrl+J - Yea
01:19:926 (79926|3,80926|2) - move those one column to the left - Totally
01:20:176 (80176|1,80926|2) - ctrl+H - Fixed
01:22:676 (82676|0) - I would put this in 2 too. - 1 is easier to play
01:24:176 (84176|0,84926|1,85176|3) - consecutively: to 2, to 1, to 3 - This pattern is the same as above, so no
01:26:926 - same as in https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062220 - Same as before

Moderato
00:01:176 (1176|1) - there is only one musical note. Delete this one. - Plays better, so no
00:05:176 (5176|2) - same - ^
00:06:426 (6426|3) - delete - ^
00:07:176 (7176|2,7426|1,7676|2) - move them to 2,3,4 respectively - Went for 3-1-2-0 instead
00:08:176 (8176|3) - delete, and make 00:08:176 (8176|1) - a LN - There's already a LN there?
00:09:176 (9176|1) - move to 4 - That does play better
00:14:051 (14051|2) - to 1
00:14:176 - again this section similar to previous. 00:14:176 (14176|3) - should be on 3 though. - ?
00:23:676 (23676|0,24676|3,27676|0,28676|3) - those are ghost notes, delete. - Deleting those would break flow, so no
00:39:926 (39926|1) - move to 1. Nice stream before. - No, that would break the 2-0-3-1 pattern
00:40:176 (40176|2) - move to 2. - Changed, and rearanged previous part as well
00:54:176 - I don't want to check it all once again but it should be exact same as first kiai. Apply the changes from first and compare both, eliminating differences. - No, that would make it quite boring, repeating the pattern again
01:15:176 (75176|3) - make this a LN like before - Whoops
01:17:176 (77176|0) - this too - ^
01:18:176 - you chose to map differently than 00:22:176 - but it's ok because some variation :P - Thanks ^^[/color

Allegro
00:12:676 (12676|0) - make this 1/2 shorter -
00:17:676 (17676|0) - this too - That however, is better
00:18:176 - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062451 Those are the correct snaps for the piano. I know you maybe tried to simplify it but ghost notes are not rankable (especially your second piano note is not audible at all). - First, I tried making this as correct as possible, but soon figured out that is no fun to play, at all. Therefore, after a lot of discussing with other mods, I decided to settle with this pattern. I get that this pattern is wrong, but it plays better, which, in the end, is more important that pitch-relevancy. If you want a perfect version, go play the actual midi I'd say ^^
00:19:176 (19176|0,19176|3) - swap the LN and the note (consistency with Moderato + pitch) - No, the LN is deep, and I want that on the left. The only reason it's swapped in Moderato is due to it being easier to play that way. Now I have a double, so it wouldn't matter if it's left or right, playability wise.
00:20:176 - the second one. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062436 The second one. - Notice the slight difference. - Same as above
00:23:676 (23676|1,24676|2,27676|1,28676|2) - same as Moderato, ghost notes. - Same as Moderato, playability
00:23:926 (23926|0) - delete, one note is sufficient here. - Plays better, 1 note kinda breaks flow (2-3-2 > 2-1-2)
00:24:926 (24926|0) - delete, same. - ^
00:25:176 (25176|1,25426|2,25926|2) - move to right for variation, looks better.
00:27:926 (27926|0,28176|2,28176|1,28426|0,28676|2) - arrange it like before. - Thought of that, but would conflict with 00:26:176 (26176|3)
00:28:926 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062483 use this. The streams flow with pitch better and are more consequent.
00:34:176 - try this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062503 - The current pattern flows better
00:36:176 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062513 - Not changing the current pattern
00:38:926 (38926|2) - to 4 - ^
00:39:176 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062523 - ^
00:40:176 - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4062535 - ^
00:47:926 (47926|1) - move to 1 - Ooh, nice catch!
00:51:926 (51926|1) - same - ^
00:54:176 - do the same thing with the second kiai. - Variety is more important, I think
01:14:176 - do the same thing with the trills (and LNs) as before. - Same as mentioned earlier
01:18:176 - apply the same changes as in 00:22:176 - Nice catch!
01:26:176 (86176|1,86176|3) - those are sharp short sounds, should end 01:26:426 - here. - Nice! That's way better yea!

Good luck for ranking!
Woa, thanks for the killer mod! Really helped me out!
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okay checking

overall, all mania hitsound are delayed, as i told in pm so i will recheck when you done fix them
Preview time should be on 00:22:176 -

[Andante]
00:11:676 (11676|0,11926|2) - seem to be it's different pitch than 00:10:676 (10676|0,10926|2) - , you may need to move some notes to make the different
00:18:176 (18176|3,19176|0) - how about swtich column of them? because 00:19:176 (19176|0,21176|0) - definitely different pitch
so on if you argeed, move 00:21:176 (21176|0) - to 2
00:40:676 (40676|2,40926|2) - they are different pitch, not same as 00:39:676 (39676|2,39926|2) - so move 00:40:676 (40676|2) - to 2nd column
00:46:176 - how about this, for the pitch http://puu.sh/oBc4R/bb052afd14.png
or you can make them like these 01:06:426 -

[Moderato]
00:11:676 (11676|0,11926|2) - same problems as i told in earlier
00:34:176 (34176|2) - move this to 2nd for more balance
00:36:176 (36176|2) - same here
the jacks on here well i don't have any better suggestion 00:46:426 -
but i think it could be improved, you can recheck it again
00:54:176 (54176|2) - move to 2 for balance
00:56:926 - how about this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5045686 , works best for pitch but also for balance imo
01:06:426 - this jack too
01:18:176 - the last part was a little different from the begin but it not a problem anyways

[Allegro]
00:10:676 (10676|0,11676|0) - avoid these jacks, it sound no same pitch in here but it's a good patterns and well balanced so you can consider
00:13:676 (13676|0) - this hold should be same long as 00:12:676 (12676|0) - , i felt it end in the next double white
00:34:426 (34426|1,34426|0) - why there are two notes here? clearly no senses on here, and also according on 00:36:426 - there are no 2 notes here too
00:35:926 - add a note on 1st for piano
According to 00:38:426 (38426|2,39426|0) - , you should add a note on 00:40:426 (40426|2,41426|0) - because it should almost the same from them
00:54:426 (54426|1,54426|0) - same problem
00:55:926 - add a note for piano
01:00:426 (60426|2,61426|0) - you know what i meant
01:14:176 (74176|3,74176|2) - only single piano on here, no other sound, so remove one note here, according to 01:14:176 (74176|2,74176|3) -
01:17:176 (77176|0,77176|1,77176|3) - it's just a lower pitch than 01:15:176 - but still sound only worth for 2 notes only so remove one note

it's a good map overall, call me back later you done
Chronocide
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Kuo Kyoka wrote:

okay checking

overall, all mania hitsound are delayed, as i told in pm so i will recheck when you done fix them - Fixed
Preview time should be on 00:22:176 - ^

[Andante]
00:11:676 (11676|0,11926|2) - seem to be it's different pitch than 00:10:676 (10676|0,10926|2) - , you may need to move some notes to make the different - The pitch is indeed different, but to fix this I would have to use 1-2-1, which I don't want to use due to hand balance
00:18:176 (18176|3,19176|0) - how about swtich column of them? because 00:19:176 (19176|0,21176|0) - definitely different pitch
so on if you argeed, move 00:21:176 (21176|0) - to 2 - I'm aware of the pitch change, to accent the pitch change I decided to bring 00:20:176 (20176|2) to 3 and keep the single on 1. I wanted the very deep sound as far left possible, which fits better imo
00:40:676 (40676|2,40926|2) - they are different pitch, not same as 00:39:676 (39676|2,39926|2) - so move 00:40:676 (40676|2) - to 2nd column - Fixed, changed 00:41:426 (41426|3,41676|2,41926|1) as well
00:46:176 - how about this, for the pitch http://puu.sh/oBc4R/bb052afd14.png
or you can make them like these 01:06:426 - Fixed, went for the 2nd suggestion

[Moderato]
00:11:676 (11676|0,11926|2) - same problems as i told in earlier - Fixed
00:34:176 (34176|2) - move this to 2nd for more balance - Good catch!
00:36:176 (36176|2) - same here - ^
the jacks on here well i don't have any better suggestion 00:46:426 -
but i think it could be improved, you can recheck it again - Completely reworked that section
00:54:176 (54176|2) - move to 2 for balance - Reworked this as well
00:56:926 - how about this: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5045686 , works best for pitch but also for balance imo - Very flat and boring pattern, not going to use that
01:06:426 - this jack too - Reworked that as well :)
01:18:176 - the last part was a little different from the begin but it not a problem anyways - Alrighty then

[Allegro]
00:10:676 (10676|0,11676|0) - avoid these jacks, it sound no same pitch in here but it's a good patterns and well balanced so you can consider - The reason why I chose for minijacks here, is because I want sample 60/55 as far left as possible, since they sound very low compared to say 87
00:13:676 (13676|0) - this hold should be same long as 00:12:676 (12676|0) - , i felt it end in the next double white - Fixed
00:34:426 (34426|1,34426|0) - why there are two notes here? clearly no senses on here, and also according on 00:36:426 - there are no 2 notes here too - I've used the MIDI to check what sound goes where, and apparently 00:34:426 (34426|0,34426|1) has a 55, and 00:36:426 (36426|1) doesn't. I could remove it, but playability-wise, it doesn't make that much of a difference.
00:35:926 - add a note on 1st for piano - Added
According to 00:38:426 (38426|2,39426|0) - , you should add a note on 00:40:426 (40426|2,41426|0) - because it should almost the same from them - Same as previous section
00:54:426 (54426|1,54426|0) - same problem - ^
00:55:926 - add a note for piano - Added
01:00:426 (60426|2,61426|0) - you know what i meant - Yep
01:14:176 (74176|3,74176|2) - only single piano on here, no other sound, so remove one note here, according to 01:14:176 (74176|2,74176|3) - Same issue as before, MIDI says note, but not sure if I'll keep it...
01:17:176 (77176|0,77176|1,77176|3) - it's just a lower pitch than 01:15:176 - but still sound only worth for 2 notes only so remove one note - ^

it's a good map overall, call me back later you done
Thank you for the check :D
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I actually can bubble it now but all hitsound are still delayed



please fix all of them
Chronocide
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Kuo Kyoka wrote:

I actually can bubble it now but all hitsound are still delayed



please fix all of them
Wait, what? I actually fixed those in the update, guess it didn't upload it properly, give me a moment to fix those :?

EDIT: Hitsounds are fixed.
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Hasegawa Tomoki - Zetsubou no Minuet (Piano Ver.) [OsuMania]


[Generals]
- BPM: Okay
- Offset: Okay
- AiMod: Okay
- Tags: Okay
- BG: Okay
- Kiai: Okay
- Metadata: Okay
- Folder’s problem: None
- Hitsound: Okay
- Timing: Okay
- Other: Okay

Bubbled


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1 more step :D
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Please provide metadata proof for this song before qualification.
Chronocide
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IamKwaN wrote:

Please provide metadata proof for this song before qualification.
The MP3 used comes from this beatmap. I've added Piano Ver. due to the fact I used a MIDI to keysound the chart. I'm assuming the metadata needs to be changed? :(
Edit: Fixed metadata and updated beatmap, rip bubble :cry:
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Hasegawa Tomoki - Zetsubou no Minuet [OsuMania]


[Generals]
- BPM: Okay
- Offset: Okay
- AiMod: Okay
- Tags: Okay
- BG: Okay
- Kiai: Okay
- Metadata: Okay
- Folder’s problem: None
- Hitsound: Okay
- Timing: Okay
- Other: Okay

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looks good now, good luck!
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good luck mate! have a star ミ★
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Alright, we did IRC stuff.
It's just the half log because the other half was in Discord.

Fixed HS delay, a lot of HS inconsistency etc.

IRC Log
22:57 Feerum: Le meme
22:57 Han Solo: o/
22:57 Feerum: Damn dat samples
22:58 Han Solo: Yea, next time going to do a better job
22:58 Han Solo: The note placement is wonky as well
22:58 Feerum: Do you keep the uhh trills
22:58 Han Solo: Like, 55 on the right smh
22:58 Han Solo: Idk
22:58 Feerum: The samples in the trill
22:58 Han Solo: It's not consistent
22:58 Feerum: Yeah
22:59 Han Solo: It sounds weird without music as well
22:59 Feerum: hmm
22:59 Han Solo: Will change Moderato
22:59 Feerum: wouldn't it be better to map 1/2 in Moderato
22:59 Han Solo: Isn't that hard
22:59 Han Solo: Oh, nvm
23:00 Han Solo: Yea, 1/2 might be better
23:00 Feerum: Like this maybe.http://puu.sh/pIei5/8ad5222c1a.png
23:00 Feerum: and then you can use the samples from allegro
23:00 Feerum: ~
23:00 Han Solo: Why are all your notes white?
23:01 Feerum: because in mania i don't use default skin in editor
23:01 Han Solo: Ow
23:02 Han Solo: Kinda sad that so much stuff is wrong :/
23:02 Feerum: To have a full keysounded map right is much work
23:03 Han Solo: Yea
23:03 Han Solo: And this is, I believe my 2nd uploaded map
23:03 Han Solo: (So that would be my 3rd map)
23:03 Han Solo: Haha
23:03 Han Solo: http://puu.sh/pIeuJ/55f356940a.jpg
23:04 Han Solo: So, it's not correct according to Allegro
23:04 Han Solo: But it plays better and makes more sense
23:04 Feerum: Yeah! With this i'm totally fine
23:04 Han Solo: Cool
23:05 Han Solo: S0, now I think Allegro and Moderato are ok, right?
23:06 Feerum: Ahh no
23:06 Feerum: 01:26:176 -  here in Moderato are both 91 but in Allegro you have 79/91
23:07 Feerum: Then it should be fine :D
23:08 Han Solo: Oh
23:08 Han Solo: Yea, that double
23:08 Han Solo: I used to accentuate the 91, but 79/91 might be better
23:08 Feerum: Yeah
23:09 Feerum: Alright then
23:09 Han Solo: Now Andante...
23:09 Feerum: To Adante HS check *yay*
23:10 Han Solo: Sorry :*
23:10 Han Solo: *:(
23:10 Feerum: gay
23:10 Feerum: :^)
23:10 Feerum: It's okay haha
23:10 Feerum: I got BN to help ppl :)
23:10 Han Solo: Lol
23:11 Han Solo: 00:18:176 (18176|3) -
23:11 Han Solo: 80
23:11 Feerum: Le yes
23:11 Feerum: 00:20:176 -  too
23:11 Han Solo: Got the other one as well
23:11 Feerum: hah was faster
23:12 Han Solo: 00:42:176 (42176|2) - Rip
23:13 Feerum: yeah xD
23:13 Feerum: i'm not that fast aa
23:14 Feerum: All are wrong when i see it right
23:14 Han Solo: Okay, I'm here now 00:46:176 (46176|2) -
23:14 Han Solo: Yea
23:14 Han Solo: Idk why :(
23:14 Feerum: 00:46:176 -  this one too yeah
23:15 Feerum: can i suggest
23:15 Feerum: even when it's actually NOT wrong
23:15 Feerum: 00:53:176 (53176|0) -  change to 71
23:15 Feerum: 79 is still right
23:15 Feerum: but  previously you also used 71
23:15 Han Solo: 71?
23:15 Feerum: 00:49:176 -  here
23:15 Feerum: Yes
23:15 Feerum: 79 is also right but it's same sound, same note, so better same hitsound too :D
23:16 Han Solo: Hold on
23:16 Feerum: Yeah?
23:16 Han Solo: Let me check the midi
23:16 Feerum: No need to
23:16 Feerum: you have in Allegro 71,79 and 67
23:16 Feerum: all 3 are correct
23:17 Han Solo: Oh
23:17 Feerum: I just mean it's the same note on same column
23:17 Han Solo: I think I'll keep it as is
23:17 Han Solo: 79 sounds ok
23:17 Feerum: ke
23:17 Feerum: 01:02:176 -  rip again
23:18 Feerum: :D
23:18 Han Solo: orz
23:19 Feerum: Oh yeah and then to pattern i found something
23:19 Han Solo: ?
23:20 Feerum: 00:49:176 -  here you used a single note
23:20 Feerum: 01:09:176 -  jump
23:20 Han Solo: Yes
23:20 Feerum: Same sound
23:20 Feerum: absolute same part
23:20 Han Solo: Why
23:20 Feerum: different pattern :D
23:20 Han Solo: Why did I do this
23:20 Feerum: idk
23:20 *Han Solo smashing head against desk
23:21 Han Solo: Fixed
23:21 Feerum: ok that's all
23:21 Han Solo: We did it!
23:21 Han Solo: Now to upload and pop bubble :(
23:21 Feerum: Yeah, can you update
23:22 Feerum: That's okay
23:22 Feerum: I can still qualify it
23:22 Feerum: Since the Bubble Pop was caused because of a BN check hue
23:23 Han Solo: Updated
23:23 Feerum: Great, let me redl
23:24 Feerum: i just gonna recheck it, if everything is fine now i will qualify it
23:24 Han Solo: I love you forever man :D
23:24 Feerum: You're luck that i had some time when we talked about it and i love keysounded maps, especially piano xd
23:24 Han Solo: If you need something from me, just let me know ^^
23:25 Han Solo: Wew
23:25 Han Solo: I have 2 others, but never bothered to finish
23:25 Feerum: i could always need something from the Netherlands.. :^)
23:25 Feerum: jkjk
23:25 Han Solo: Since this one was such a hassle
23:25 Feerum: rip
23:25 Han Solo: Need stroopwafles? xD
23:25 Han Solo: *stroopwafels
23:25 *Han Solo is listening to BeautifulDay - V3 (Piano Version)
23:25 Han Solo: Ye
23:26 Feerum: V3 i think i know this
23:26 Han Solo: Yea
23:26 *Han Solo is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/72878 BeautifulDay - V3 (Piano ver.)]
23:26 Han Solo: I found the MIDI
23:26 Han Solo: Was planning on 4,5,6,7 full set
23:26 Han Solo: Hitsounding took too much time :/
23:26 Feerum: use hitsound copier hue
23:27 Feerum: ayyy yuuuu
23:28 Feerum: http://puu.sh/pIgcD/36bddf6227.jpg le meme
23:28 Han Solo: Yea, told you
23:28 Han Solo: 80-79-80-79 is better
23:28 Han Solo: Otherwise it would be 80-80-80-80 :/
23:28 Han Solo: Or something weird
23:29 Han Solo: Maybe I'll actually change it to 1/4
23:29 Han Solo: 1/6 is just...
23:29 Feerum: You're right
23:29 Han Solo: I mean, the MIDI is 1/4...
23:29 Feerum: 1/4 is too much
23:29 Feerum: for a Normal Diff
23:30 Han Solo: ?
23:30 Han Solo: Yea
23:30 Feerum: Or do you mean in Allegro
23:30 Han Solo: Yea
23:30 Han Solo: I want 1/4 for Allegro
23:30 Han Solo: I mean, the song is 1/6, but, ehh....
23:30 Han Solo: Idk
23:30 Feerum: nah let it
23:31 Feerum: 1/6 is fine
23:31 Han Solo: Okay
23:31 Feerum: If this will be a problem someone will say something and we can dq it to fix it
23:31 Han Solo: I think Moderato should stay like 8-79-80 etc
23:31 Han Solo: Okay
23:31 Feerum: Yeah it's ok
23:36 Feerum: 01:06:176 (66176|0) - 
23:36 Feerum: Allegro is 56, Moderato is 55
23:36 Feerum: i thought i said that? xd
23:37 Han Solo: Could've sworn I changed that
23:38 Han Solo: Fixed
23:40 Feerum: ok then Moderato is fine, only Adante left xd
23:43 Han Solo: I'll update when you checked Adante
23:43 Feerum: yeah
23:47 Feerum: In Adante 00:53:176 -  and 01:13:176 -  you want to keep it single note?
23:47 Feerum: Same like 01:09:176 -  etc. I thought actually you just remove the one chord you had but you added another note xD So just to be sure
23:47 Feerum: i ask :D
23:48 Han Solo: Mmh
23:48 Han Solo: It's a 2 measure gap, so double chords would be ok
23:48 Han Solo: BUT
23:49 Han Solo: If I were to make thouse doubles
23:49 Han Solo: 00:52:176 (52176|3) -
23:49 Han Solo: Those should be doubles as well, otherwise it would be weird
23:49 Han Solo: So I guess singles
23:49 Feerum: Yeah 
23:49 Feerum: you can do if you want
23:49 Feerum: is fine
23:49 Han Solo: Singles :)
23:49 Feerum: Ok! Then remove one note from the chords
23:50 Han Solo: All fixed
23:50 Han Solo: Changed the position as well, so all of the 79 are on 2
23:50 Feerum: ok then i'm almost done
23:51 Feerum: oh
23:51 Han Solo: What about OD/HP, btw, is that fine?
23:51 Feerum: i just noticed
23:51 Han Solo: I don't know much about low level HP/OD
23:51 Feerum: After the LN's
23:51 Han Solo: Adante?
23:51 Han Solo: *Andante
23:51 Feerum: 00:46:176 -  here you have 55 and there you have 56
23:51 Feerum: actually in all diffs
23:51 Feerum: :D
23:52 Han Solo: Rip
23:52 Feerum:  01:06:176 (66176|0) -  
23:52 Han Solo: Yea, should all be 56
23:52 Feerum: Ahh okay
23:52 Feerum: then fix them to 56
23:52 Han Solo: No, wait
23:52 Han Solo: 00:45:176 (45176|0,45676|1,46176|2) -
23:52 Han Solo: 55-56-55
23:53 Han Solo: 01:05:176 (65176|0,65676|1,66176|2) -
23:53 Han Solo: 55-56-56
23:53 Han Solo: The fuck
23:53 Feerum: Oh yeah
23:53 Feerum: 55, good catch
23:53 Han Solo: Alllll should be changed baaaack toooo 55 agaiiin
23:53 Han Solo: Hahahaha
23:53 Feerum: :D
23:54 Han Solo: Goddamnit xD
23:56 Feerum: Well then we are done
23:56 Feerum: just fix the last hs things :D
23:56 Han Solo: All fixed!
23:56 Feerum: Oki
23:57 Han Solo: Updated
23:57 Han Solo: You're the best :D
23:57 Feerum: Great
23:58 Feerum: hm 
23:59 Feerum: The BG think shouldn't be a problem
23:59 Han Solo: Hm?
00:00 Feerum: Nope, just asked a QAT, is no problem
00:00 Han Solo: Cool
00:01 Han Solo: Al good? :D
00:01 Han Solo: *All
00:02 Feerum: one moment
00:02 Feerum: jep
00:02 Feerum: lets move

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