1. 4K Collab Gladiator - 4Key (5,36 stars, 5850 notes)
2. 6K Collab Guardian - 6Key (6,37 stars, 7188 notes)

Map info

Background by Dub Stepmania!

4K Gladiator: me and Tidek
6K Guardian: me and Skalim (with help of Evening)

4K - Finished!

_underjoy: 00:00:00 to 02:29:185 and 04:33:985 to 05:55:585
Tidek:02:29:185 to 04:33:985 and 05:55:585 to 07:13:499

6K - Finished!

_underjoy: 00:00:00 to 00:25:585 and 05:55:585 to 07:13:499
Skalim: 00:25:585 to 05:55:585
Some parts of the solo and drum sections are made by Evening and remade by Skalim.

Thanks to Jole, -Kamikaze-, Tidek, E x e, Lenfried-, Daeris, Takane6, Davin Fortune, Pope Gadget, Valedict, XeoStyle, puxtu, MEGAtive, Nivrad00, ArcherLove, ajeemaniz, Rizqy, [ A v a l o n ] and Julie for modding! :3
Thanks to [ A v a l o n ] and -Kamikaze- for bubble <3
Big thanks to Julie for qualify <3 <3 <3

-Kamikaze- wrote:

shitty IRC 6k mod heh

log

19:37 -Kamikaze-: dawaj na ring
19:38 _underjoy: zaraz cie zniszcze
19:38 _underjoy: chociaz wait
19:38 _underjoy: wiekszosc tego diffa jest skalima
19:38 -Kamikaze-: eh
19:39 -Kamikaze-: kurde nie chce mi sie tego modować
19:39 -Kamikaze-: ale dobra
19:39 -Kamikaze-: niech będzie
19:39 -Kamikaze-: który part twój
19:40 _underjoy: nie no
19:40 _underjoy: wysle mu irca
19:40 _underjoy: moj part to poczatek i koniec xD
19:40 -Kamikaze-: oki
19:40 -Kamikaze-: no to najpierw spójrz do aimoda
19:40 -Kamikaze-: pare ciekawych rzeczy
19:41 _underjoy: tagi tylko tbh
19:41 -Kamikaze-: 	Uninherited timing points conflict with 4K Collab Gladiator diff.	
19:41 -Kamikaze-: dopiero pobrałem btw
19:41 _underjoy: to chodzi o koncowke
19:41 _underjoy: Tidek leniwy jeszcze nie zaczal mapic
19:41 -Kamikaze-: aa
19:41 -Kamikaze-: ok
19:42 -Kamikaze-: 00:05:185 - + 1 nutka do druma?
19:43 _underjoy: dodalem 6
19:43 -Kamikaze-: 00:15:385 - jak już to coś takiego zrób http://puu.sh/l2dzX/bef4cc3b81.png
19:45 -Kamikaze-: lepiej by było imo jakbyś alternował chordy zamiast na 1 ręce chordy i na 2 1/4
19:45 _underjoy: good idea
19:45 -Kamikaze-: dlatego że jak to 1/4 idzie w raz jednym raz drugiem kierunku to powiewa rakiem
19:45 -Kamikaze-: na 1 ręce
19:47 -Kamikaze-: 00:17:785 - same here smh tbh
19:48 -Kamikaze-: 00:19:210 (19210|1) - musisz to mapować z tymi LNami? ;-;
19:49 -Kamikaze-: 00:22:735 (22735|5,22735|0,22735|1,22735|3,22735|4,22735|2,22885|4,22885|2,22885|0,22885|5,22885|3,22885|1,23035|4,23035|5,23035|0,23035|3,23035|1,23035|2,23185|0,23185|2,23185|5,23185|1,23185|4,23185|3,23335|2,23335|5,23335|0,23335|4,23335|1,23335|3,23485|0,23485|4,23485|3,23485|1,23485|5,23485|2) - are you banana
19:50 _underjoy: wwhy not lny
19:50 _underjoy: no dobra no to zrobie z tego 5 chordy xD
19:52 -Kamikaze-: z tymi LNami dość dziwnie sie gra
19:52 -Kamikaze-: jak na intro to bym dał bez tego
19:52 _underjoy: oki
19:53 -Kamikaze-: jezus maria ile to shieldów ma
19:53 -Kamikaze-: dude kill yourself
19:53 _underjoy: welcome to skalim world
19:54 -Kamikaze-: 00:28:435 (28435|0,28735|0,28885|0,29035|0,29185|0,29335|0,29485|0,29635|0,29785|0) - mam ochotę się zabić bo to jest w kurwe rak ale nie moge nic na niego powiedzieć
19:55 _underjoy: ano xD
19:55 _underjoy: chyba ze
19:55 -Kamikaze-: ale anchorów tutaj jest
19:55 -Kamikaze-: ew
19:55 _underjoy: zeby zrobic z tego po 12 na kazdym
19:55 -Kamikaze-: 1/2 anchory są niesmaczne
19:59 -Kamikaze-: powinieneś to rozprowadzić tak żeby nie było anchorów jak tu 00:28:285 (28285|2,28435|2) - 
19:59 -Kamikaze-: ile się da
19:59 -Kamikaze-: bo to się potem źle gra
20:00 -Kamikaze-: 00:28:735 (28735|4,28885|4,28960|5,29110|5,29185|4,29335|4) - literally cancer for example
20:00 _underjoy: kk
20:00 _underjoy: ten fragment moduj po ang xD
20:01 -Kamikaze-: oki
20:01 _underjoy: w sumie as do 5:55
20:02 -Kamikaze-: as do
20:02 -Kamikaze-: polish english
20:02 _underjoy: no s jest blisko z
20:02 -Kamikaze-: co to zmienia
20:02 -Kamikaze-: XD
20:03 -Kamikaze-: a ok nvm
20:03 -Kamikaze-: sry dumb
20:06 -Kamikaze-: 00:29:935 (29935|4,30085|4,30235|3,30385|3,30535|2,30685|2) - skalim what the fuck are those anchors you nigger
20:06 -Kamikaze-: http://puu.sh/l2fct/4480c79d66.png
20:06 -Kamikaze-: meanwhile
20:08 _underjoy: contain ur antimeta shit faget
20:09 -Kamikaze-: kill yourself
20:09 -Kamikaze-: stab yourself with a huge dildo and choke to death
20:16 -Kamikaze-: spoonguy testnie to zara
20:16 _underjoy: jej
20:16 _underjoy: to updatne
20:18 -Kamikaze-: mów jak upniesz
20:19 *-Kamikaze- is watching [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/732248 Dragonforce - The Warrior Inside [6K Collab Guardian]] <osu!mania> |6K|
20:20 _underjoy: juz
20:20 -Kamikaze-: upnięte map
20:20 -Kamikaze-: prawie padł już
20:20 -Kamikaze-: lol
20:21 _underjoy: on to gra?
20:21 -Kamikaze-: warmup robi
20:21 -Kamikaze-: bo tak nie da rady XD
20:39 -Kamikaze-: http://puu.sh/l2hxT/f3212382e6.jpg
20:41 _underjoy: lmao
20:44 -Kamikaze-: dobra poszukam jakichś raków i chujowych anchorów
20:45 -Kamikaze-: 00:33:010 (33010|0,33160|0,33310|0,33460|0) - 2/10 wouldn't anchor
20:45 -Kamikaze-: 00:33:985 (33985|0,34135|1,34135|0,34285|0,34285|1,34435|0,34585|1,34585|0,34735|0,34735|1) - 1/10 end your life
20:45 -Kamikaze-: 00:35:635 (35635|2,35785|2,35935|2,36085|2,36235|2) - why are you doing this to me
20:45 -Kamikaze-: 00:36:235 (36235|1,36385|1,36535|1,36685|1) - 
20:45 -Kamikaze-: 00:37:135 (37135|0,37285|0,37435|0,37585|0,37735|0,37885|0,38035|0) - dude what the fuck
20:46 -Kamikaze-: this is a meme apocalypse
20:46 -Kamikaze-: 00:38:860 (38860|0,39010|0,39160|0,39310|0,39460|0,39610|0,39760|0,39910|0) - what in the world
20:47 _underjoy: lel
20:47 _underjoy: i to pierwsza minuta
20:47 -Kamikaze-: 00:37:135 (37135|0,37285|0,37435|0,37585|0,37735|0,37885|0,38035|0,38335|0,38485|0,38635|0,38860|0,39010|0,39160|0,39310|0,39460|0,39610|0,39760|0,39910|0) - 
20:49 -Kamikaze-: dude you need a proper repattern with fixing of those anchors to be done
20:49 -Kamikaze-: especially on 1/6 column
20:50 _underjoy: poor skal :<
20:50 -Kamikaze-: no wonder paul dropped harshly at 00:37:585 - 
20:51 -Kamikaze-: 00:41:185 - can't you just map it as a higher snap short LN burst or with harder LN patterns and not just spam the shit out of playfield with double short stream
20:52 -Kamikaze-: most of the js is fine, but anchors are bad and transitions between section of them are aids
20:53 _underjoy: jumpstream in 6k chart lel
20:53 -Kamikaze-: would call it chordstream but idk
20:53 -Kamikaze-: js is a better abbreviation
20:53 -Kamikaze-: 00:53:935 (53935|0,54085|0,54235|0,54385|0,54535|0,54685|0,54835|0,54985|0,55135|0,55285|0,55435|0,55585|0,55735|0) - holy fuck
20:54 -Kamikaze-: 01:01:585 - LNs + jacks in that pattern are ughhh, would like to see a chordjack section to be honest
20:55 -Kamikaze-: 01:09:985 - merry christmas mr. shield
20:55 _underjoy: lel
20:56 _underjoy: he will have a lot to do
20:56 -Kamikaze-: yea
20:56 -Kamikaze-: and I'm only a minute in
20:56 -Kamikaze-: 01:23:185 (83185|5,83485|4,83635|4,83785|4,83785|3,83785|5,83935|4,83935|5,83935|3,84085|3,84085|5,84085|4,84235|3,84235|5,84235|4) - fug
20:56 -Kamikaze-: 01:24:385 - that plays so fucking awkwardly holy shit
20:57 -Kamikaze-: well my general complaint is about anchors being shit
20:57 -Kamikaze-: so not gonna point much more
20:58 -Kamikaze-: just take a glance at rest and point out any cancers
20:58 -Kamikaze-: 02:12:385 (132385|5,132760|2,132835|4,132835|3,132910|2,132985|4,133060|2,133135|4) - this trill with those LNs mostly on the same hand
20:58 -Kamikaze-: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
21:00 _underjoy: xD
21:00 -Kamikaze-: 02:21:985 - the jacks
21:00 _underjoy: wait until you see that 300bpm trills
21:00 -Kamikaze-: noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
21:00 _underjoy: you gonna shit yourself
21:01 -Kamikaze-: 02:42:385 - same as before
21:02 -Kamikaze-: 02:50:785 - noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
21:02 -Kamikaze-: what is this abomination
21:02 _underjoy: XDDD
21:02 _underjoy: jhlee 99ed it so its gud
21:03 -Kamikaze-: 03:27:985 - are you banana
21:03 -Kamikaze-: 03:38:785 - hi zenx
21:04 _underjoy: hi
21:05 -Kamikaze-: 04:33:985 - why those jacks are even here anyway
21:06 -Kamikaze-: 04:39:085 (279085|4,279160|4,279235|4,279685|5,279760|5,279835|5,280885|0,280960|0,281035|0) - what made you think that those jacks with all those LNs are a good idea
21:06 -Kamikaze-: 04:43:585 - who pissed in your goddamn cereal when you mapped this
21:06 -Kamikaze-: 04:55:435 (295435|1,295510|1,295585|1) - no please
21:06 _underjoy: lol maki
21:07 -Kamikaze-: you should feel bad for mapping all those tiny LN streams
21:07 -Kamikaze-: they're borderline unreadable
21:08 _underjoy: :<
21:08 -Kamikaze-: 05:43:022 (343022|0,343060|3,343097|0,343135|3,343172|0,343210|3,343247|0,343285|2,343322|5,343360|2,343397|5,343435|2,343472|5,343510|2,343547|5) - ye nice
21:09 _underjoy: mm
21:09 _underjoy: da trill
21:09 -Kamikaze-: Skalim's OP right there
21:10 -Kamikaze-: (chorus: right there)
21:10 _underjoy: :>
21:14 -Kamikaze-: ok that's about all of the really bad stuff
21:15 -Kamikaze-: I think that it's too hard for it's own good
21:15 -Kamikaze-: esp with patterning
21:15 -Kamikaze-: but what do I know anyway
21:15 -Kamikaze-: kek
21:15 _underjoy: kek
21:16 _underjoy: log saved
21:16 -Kamikaze-: I'll save
21:16 -Kamikaze-: and post
21:16 -Kamikaze-: po co ja dalej po englishu
21:16 _underjoy: gud

Jole wrote:

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J O L O

[4K Collab Gladiator]

General
I don't really like the long note usage in the map but they do seem fair and justifiable in most places. Generally this map is a very nice platform to start from but I do see room for improvement. The main things I've looked at in this mod include pattern consistency and jumpstream pattern refining.

Here's a sightread replay, should you want it. You could perhaps use it for spotting difficulty spikes and such. http://puu.sh/lTpIE/67e84294de.osr

Notes
Priority: High

Right off the bat I notice these two notes aren't mapped properly according to pitch 00:10:435 (10435|3,10585|2) - . It seems like the intro is supposed to be mapped relative to pitch, so I suggest switching columns for the two notes so the last one is further to the right, indicating a higher pitch of course, how could I miss that :<

Throughout the map I noticed a lot of mirrored patterns on handstreams. This is a good example 00:37:660 (37660|0,37735|1,37810|2,37885|0,37885|1,37885|3,37960|2,38035|1,38110|0) -

I highly suggest avoiding these types of patterns (I think they're called anchors but I'm not entirely sure about the terminology) because they are more awkward to play and read than necessary. Perhaps make the pattern like shown in the box below to avoid the mirrored/symmetrical pattern. This will require you to change things around these sections as well

Show pattern

I've gone ahead and found all the places where I think the pattern should be changed so you don't have to - just so you can fix it more easily Note that not all of the patterns have to be changed. I can see that certain parts are mapped around that type of pattern which is fine but I'm just telling you to avoid them in general. I'll still be leaving all of them in the box so just pick and choose which ones you feel like need to be fixed. If they have not been put there to exaggerate sounds, I think you should change the pattern so it's less awkward and more enjoyable fixed some of them, thanks!

All aforementioned patterns

00:37:660 (37660|0,37735|1,37810|2,37885|0,37885|1,37885|3,37960|2,38035|1,38110|0) -
00:38:335 (38335|2,38410|1,38485|3,38485|2,38485|0,38560|1,38635|2) -
01:19:585 (79585|0,79585|3,79585|2,79660|1,79735|3,79810|1,79885|3,79885|2,79885|0) -
01:20:185 (80185|3,80185|1,80185|0,80260|2,80335|1,80410|2,80485|3,80485|0,80485|1) -
01:20:785 (80785|0,80785|3,80785|2,80860|1,80935|2,81010|1,81085|3,81085|2,81085|0) -
01:21:385 (81385|0,81385|1,81385|3,81460|2,81535|0,81610|2,81685|3,81685|0,81685|1) -
01:21:985 (81985|3,81985|2,81985|1,82060|0,82135|2,82210|0,82285|3,82285|1,82285|2) -
01:22:585 (82585|0,82585|1,82585|2,82660|3,82735|1,82810|3,82885|0,82885|1,82885|2) -
01:23:185 (83185|1,83185|2,83185|3,83260|0,83335|3,83410|0,83485|3,83485|2,83485|1) -
01:23:785 (83785|0,83785|1,83785|2,83860|3,83935|0,83935|1,84010|3,84085|0,84085|1,84085|2) -
01:24:985 (84985|0,84985|1,84985|3,85060|2,85135|1,85210|2,85285|0,85285|1,85285|3) -
01:25:585 (85585|1,85585|2,85585|3,85660|0,85735|3,85810|0,85885|3,85885|2,85885|1) -
01:26:185 (86185|0,86185|1,86185|2,86260|3,86335|0,86410|3,86485|0,86485|1,86485|2) -
01:40:435 (100435|0,100435|1,100510|2,100585|0,100585|3,100660|2,100735|0,100735|1) -
01:48:985 (108985|3,108985|0,109060|1,109135|3,109135|2,109210|1,109285|3,109285|0,109360|1,109435|0,109435|2,109510|1,109585|3,109585|0) - that's a big one
01:50:035 (110035|0,110035|1,110110|2,110185|0,110185|3,110260|2,110335|0,110335|1,110410|3,110485|1,110485|2,110560|3,110635|0,110635|1) - another big one
01:53:635 (113635|1,113635|2,113710|0,113785|3,113785|2,113860|0,113935|2,113935|1) -
01:56:635 (116635|2,116635|3,116710|1,116785|3,116785|0,116860|1,116935|3,116935|2) -
01:59:935 (119935|0,119935|1,120010|2,120085|1,120085|3,120160|2,120235|0,120235|1) -
02:09:385
02:56:635 (176635|3,176685|2,176735|1,176785|3,176785|0,176835|1,176885|2,176935|3) -
03:08:035 (188035|2,188110|1,188185|0,188185|3,188185|2,188260|1,188335|2) -
05:27:685 (327685|0,327685|1,327685|3,327760|2,327835|0,327835|1,327910|2,327985|3,327985|0,327985|1) -
05:28:885 (328885|2,328885|3,328885|0,328960|1,329035|0,329035|2,329110|1,329185|3,329185|0,329185|2) -

The transition here 02:57:835 (177835|0,177885|1,177935|2,177985|0,177985|3) - seems quite hard to hit without messing up the whole jumptrill. Seeing as the jumptrill is so long, changing it to a more simple |12| |34| jumptrill like shown below would make it less of an annoyance to players. The pattern right before and after the jumptrill has been adjusted in the screenshot as well



You've asked me to take a closer look at snaps for the guitar bits, which I'll get to now.

At this part 00:44:785 (44785|2,44785|0,44785|3) - there are several notes condensed into a single long note which doesn't fit with how the other guitar sections are mapped throughout the song like here 00:31:585 (31585|3) - . To keep the map more consistent and more fun because FAST I think you should change the pattern so all the notes are mapped. I've made a quick example of how it could look. I moved 00:44:710 (44710|1) - to column 1 as well to avoid some repetition from the parts before. I put that note just because I didn't know the correct snap and did this "for now".Applied your suggestion

Show pattern

01:14:785 (74785|3) - This part is definitely correctly snapped jej
There's a massive difficulty spike by adding jumps into this section 02:55:585 (175585|0,175585|1) - relative to the other 1/6 guitar streams. Consider removing it for consistent difficulty. I can't quite decide if it's correctly snapped or not. Something tells me 1/6 is too fast but 1/4 seems too slow. Someone else will need to recheck this, I'm not exactly the best at it

03:08:785 (188785|1,188785|0,188860|0,188935|2,189010|1,189085|2,189085|3,189160|3,189235|1,189310|2,189385|1,189385|0,189460|0,189535|2,189610|1,189685|2,189685|3,189760|3,189835|1,189910|2) - This part feels very undermapped because it doesn't follow the guitar. It would be much better if you changed it to 1/6

Not related to the guitar snap but minijacks on both hands like here 04:42:235 (282235|1,282235|2,282310|2,282310|1) - are more difficult than singlehanded ones. I'd like you to change it to a one-handed minijack instead just like the other ones around it. This counts for the section here as well 05:20:635 (320635|3,320635|0,320710|0,320710|3) - they are intended to be two sets of easier jacks linked by one set of harder ones

04:45:985 (285985|0) - This part seems correctly snapped although I might be wrong. Get someone to recheck

05:02:785 (302785|3) - Here it sounds like a mix of 1/3 and 1/6 so you could try that out. I really don't know if it's correct
05:25:585 (325585|3,325635|2,325685|1,325735|0,325785|1,325835|2,325885|3,326185|0,326235|1,326285|2,326335|3,326385|2,326435|1,326485|0) - I think you should change this part so there's only emphasis on the fast 1/6 guitar and the drums rather than switching between the two guitars that can be heard in the section. In other words, more 1/6 and take out the long notes. That's it for the guitar snaps, hope it helps kk boss

This mod turned out a lot shorter than I thought it would but that just shows my opinion about the map. I like the majority of it except for some long note usage, but I dislike long notes in general so I'm probably biased I'd like to see this ranked sometime

J O L O out

Lenfried- wrote:

4k is really cool
6k is too hard for me so i can't really go deep on this one

ill try to mod this even though i might miserably fail

4k

00:17:185 (17185|2,17335|2,17485|2) - ctrl h to be more expressive on the drum change if you want to mix in the guitar, [124][134][123] maybe ok
00:24:385 - throwing this in http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4141811 since the diff raise is still 100% playable and doesn't feel hard yea why not
00:28:435 (28435|0) - extend by 1/2? true
00:33:985 - kinda like the same thing i previously did http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4141827 yea
00:42:085 - idk lol http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4141848 disagree, the burst ends earlier and pattern later is good enough
00:55:735 (55735|0,55810|3,55885|1,55960|2,56185|1,56260|2,56335|1,56410|2) - doubles? doubles
01:13:810 (73810|1,73960|0,74035|2) - double? double
01:19:435 (79435|1) - convert to LN? m okay, hope the shield won't be tricky
01:32:185 (92185|3) - move to 2? nice
01:57:985 (117985|3,118585|1,119185|2,119485|2) - maybe triple to be more expressive on the strong beat due to the decrease in density. Possibly a good diff increase before the diff decrease rearranged something in that manner
03:17:185 - idk but i would prefer the chords changing for every 2/1 in an ascending way
04:23:860 (263860|1) - to 4
yup that's it

6k

This is way too complex for me so will focus on killing unnecessary consecutives like what i usually do and move some notes
00:32:785 - maybe do this to mirror the first triple used http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4141897
00:35:185 - should be a quad
00:39:985 - add 5?
00:42:385 - 00:44:485 section should be mirrored
00:48:385 (48385|1) - to 3?
00:49:585 - looks cool http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4141935
00:50:635 (50635|0) - to 6?
just realized that i will kill the chart's style by continuing this. Just don't go too much with the 1/4th consecutives on the same column. Only do those when it is necessary. If this mod did help the map, PM me and ill finish this.

Lenfried- wrote:

4k is really cool
6k is too hard for me so i can't really go deep on this one

ill try to mod this even though i might miserably fail

6k

This is way too complex for me so will focus on killing unnecessary consecutives like what i usually do and move some notes
00:32:785 - maybe do this to mirror the first triple used http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4141897 Parcially fixed... why damn have a jack? XD
00:35:185 - should be a quad if i add a quad, i should folllow the guitar, and the next guitars... and well, THAT is hard XD
00:39:985 - add 5? ok
00:42:385 - 00:44:485 section should be mirrored i don´t get it, why? but fixed a jack anyway XD
00:48:385 (48385|1) - to 3? ok
00:49:585 - looks cool http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4141935 i agree ^^
00:50:635 (50635|0) - to 6? Yea, more confortable
just realized that i will kill the chart's style by continuing this. Just don't go too much with the 1/4th consecutives on the same column. Only do those when it is necessary. If this mod did help the map, PM me and ill finish this.

Lenfried- wrote:

So what will be the focus of this mod? Usually I get rid of certain note continuation that are unnecessary which might end up with a pattern redo example. Other stuff are something I just stumble upon. Was hesitant because of the conflicts in styles but here it is.
00:32:935 (32935|0,33010|0) - minijack usage concerns me already fixed
00:42:385 - did a suggestion on this but those drum rolls should be descending they are descending lmao
00:48:385 - 4/1 here only has two mini trills ergo 00:50:185 - shouldn't be a trill already... fixed?
00:50:485 (50485|4,50485|3,50635|0,50635|1,50635|2) - ctrl h because that col 1 note succession is so long
00:56:635 (56635|4) - move to 4 because the note below is of a different pitch like a descendent pattern, got it
00:57:235 (57235|0) - move to 4 again because of the continuation of notes in col 1 patterns remaked like this for mirror
00:57:835 (57835|5,57910|2) - should be 4 and 5 respectively for the same reason no thanks, remaked for the mod of before
01:04:285 (64285|5) - maybe move to 3 for balance ok
01:05:785 (65785|0) - since col 1 isn't hit hat (not sure with the drum terminologies sorry about that) all the way, move to 4 to break that note succession in 1
01:07:285 (67285|5) - move to 5 lower pitch drum ok
01:07:285 (67285|5) - move to 4 just to break that succession in col 5 wut?
02:04:135 (124135|1,124135|0,124285|0,124285|1) - imo more expressive to do [43][32] for the doubles ok
03:00:235 (180235|4) - hand cramping, move to 3 rearranged, maybe more harder or more easy lol
03:09:985 - loool col 1 and 7 ???
03:24:835 (204835|5) - move to 3 to break that succession in 6, also has that counterpart in 03:25:135 - fixed
03:38:485 (218485|4) - move to 1 same reason wow ok
04:05:335 (245335|5,246085|4) - drums are different from other in the same column. Consider changing lane just changed in the note of above, is more suitable
04:06:010 - there's something here just in case you forgot to chart it this part is strange, but i´ll add it

04:07:135 (247135|5,247285|5,247435|5,247585|5,247735|5,247885|5) - don't really get why you would keep the notes here despite different drum usages throughout because its cool (?), fixed lol
04:09:685 (249685|0,249835|0,249985|0,250135|0,250285|0) - ^ same applies for other stuff like this ok
04:09:760 - there's something here again ok
04:12:160 - ^ there are some others, look out for those fixed all
04:24:160 (264160|5,264310|5) - could be better at 5 ok
guitar solo is too hard to mod
Mod could have been longer but i decided to increase the threshold for consecutive notes. killing 3 note successions turned out to be stupid because of the huge pattern restriction so i settled with 5. Not all are pinpointed because there are no better alternatives to said patterns. Or at least my mind can't grasp a better pattern.

Takane6 wrote:

underjoy are fancy speed streams? nvm dat duh


ene here o/

[general]
check ai mod again... >>> Uninherited timing points conflict with 6K Collab Guardian diff. <<<
fixed
1 2 3 4

4K

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00:11:335 (11335|1,11935|1) - move to 3 and
00:11:635 (11635|2) - move to 1 and
00:12:535 (12535|3) - move to 2
^ for better pitch placement Applied
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00:16:735 (16735|3,16885|3,17035|3,17185|3,17335|3,17485|3,17635|3,17785|3) - hmmmmmm
best to move 00:17:635 (17635|3,17710|2,17785|3,17785|1) - 1 collumn to the left and
00:17:935 (17935|0,18010|1,18085|2,18085|0) - move 1 collumn to the right Applied
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u consistently only make 1 jacks here... 00:20:185 (20185|1,20335|1) - and here 00:19:885 (19885|2,20035|2) - around...
so it is better you move 00:20:785 (20785|2) - to collumn 3 to prevent this typical 3 note jacks 00:20:485 (20485|2,20635|2,20785|2) - fixed
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00:26:185 (26185|3) - move to 3 for prevent this typical 3 note jacks 00:25:885 (25885|3,26035|3,26185|3) - because in this speed that particular pattern can be a disturbance
00:26:785 (26785|0) - move to 1... same reason
00:27:985 (27985|0,28060|1,28135|2) - move 1 col to the right...same reason looks better now
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00:31:585 (31585|3,31635|2,31685|1,31735|3,31785|2,31835|1,31885|3,31935|2,31985|1,32035|0,32085|2,32135|1,32185|0,32235|2,32285|1,32335|0,32385|3,32435|2,32485|1,32535|3,32585|2,32635|1,32685|3,32735|2) - this stream actually in 1/4 snap... u did that in ur 6K set
at least make all both diff 4K and 6K in the same snap because it can be confusing for players both modders I will talk with Skalim to make the 6k 1/6
00:41:185 (41185|0,41235|1,41285|2,41335|0,41385|1,41435|3,41485|0,41535|2,41585|3,41635|1,41685|2,41735|3,41785|1,41835|0,41885|3,41935|2,41985|0,42035|1) - the same
00:44:835 (44835|1,44885|0,44935|2,44985|1,45035|3,45085|2,45135|0,45185|3,45235|2,45285|1,45335|0,45385|2,45435|3,45485|1,45535|2,45585|0,45635|1,45685|3,45735|0,45785|1,45835|3,45885|0,45935|2) - the same
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00:46:735 (46735|1,46810|2,46885|1,46885|43) - if you make a 1/4 snap here...
then make the same at here too 00:46:510 - since it has a sound here that worth for 1/4
but make sure to prevent this typical 3 note jacks >>> 00:46:585 (46585|1,46735|1,46885|1) - because in this speed that particular pattern can be a disturbance...
04:10:735 (250735|3,250885|3,251035|3) - ^ same as above reason deleted the 1/4, kept the jacks to enhace the music



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00:55:585 (55585|0) - delete one note here... it hve a same sound with 00:55:660 (55660|2,56035|0,56110|3) - and aint hve a strong finish sound or strong sound as 00:55:735 (55735|1,55735|0,55810|2,55810|3,55885|1,55885|0,55960|2,55960|3) - true
00:56:035 (56035|0,56110|3) - move to 1 and 3 for better hand flow and better for pattern reading no
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00:56:785 (56785|2,56935|2,57085|2,57235|2) - why make this and suddenly chamge position at here 00:57:385 (57385|1,57535|1) - ???
00:57:085 (57085|2) - move to 2 for prevent that 4 "not same pitch" jacks 00:56:785 (56785|2,56935|2,57085|2,57235|2) - fixed, but the jacks stay
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01:02:585 (62585|2,62585|3,62685|1,62685|2,62785|1) - ctrl+h this for better pattern balancing both hand balance to mirroring pattern with 01:02:185 (62185|3,62285|3,62285|2,62385|2,62385|1) - okay... kinda ok
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01:13:660 (73660|1,73735|3) - make this 2 notes... its strong enough and have same power sound with 01:13:810 (73810|1,73810|0,73885|2,73885|3,73960|1,73960|0,74035|3,74035|2) - okay
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01:14:785 (74785|3,74835|2,74885|0,74935|1,74985|2,75035|3,75085|1,75135|2,75185|3,75235|0,75285|2,75335|1,75385|0,75435|3,75485|2,75535|0,75585|1,75635|2,75685|3,75735|1,75785|0,75835|2,75885|1,75935|0,75985|3,76035|2,76085|1,76135|3,76185|0,76235|1,76285|3,76335|2,76385|1,76435|0,76485|3,76535|2,76585|0,76635|1,76685|2,76735|0,76785|1,76835|3,76885|2,76935|0,76985|3,77035|2,77085|1,77135|0,77185|3,77185|2) -
im really not suggesting this 1/6 pattern...
1st. i cant hear the sound well
2nd. there is another loud sound which is the percussion in the 1/4 stream... better layer that
3rd. you didnt do the same as in the 6K... better or at least make all both diff 4K and 6K in the same snap because it can be confusing for players both modders 1/6 stays here.
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01:19:360 (79360|3) - no sound here... delete this there is a sound, + jack consistency
01:26:785 (86785|1,86785|3,86785|2) - 01:27:235 (87235|1,87235|3,87235|0) - three note but only 2 note at 01:27:685 (87685|3,87685|0,87985|3,87985|1,88285|3,88285|2,88585|0,88585|2,88885|0,88885|1) - because this 2 note actually have more power yet harder than what you layered in the 3 note okay this makes sense
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01:32:335 (92335|2) - move to 1 for prevent 01:32:035 (92035|2,92185|2,92335|2) - and for better hand balance because the jacks at 01:31:885 (91885|3,92035|3,92185|2,92335|2,92335|3,92485|3) - here is just a cancer and u didnt make any neutralizing pattern in the next or before this part not really a big change but I will accept it
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02:00:310 - no loud sound here...yet u didnt layer any note at 6K so better delete 1 or even 2 note of it ok
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02:17:560 (137560|3,137635|0) - ctrl+h this... this kind of bpm speed and 1/4 jacks can be cancer for real
02:24:760 (144760|3) - this kind of bpm speed and 1/4 jacks can be cancer for real it's not that hard + fits the music. This is extra diff

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02:21:985 (141985|0,142135|0,142285|0,142435|0,142585|0,142735|0,142885|0,143035|0,143185|0) - wow give mercy to left hand please... make it hand balanced please this is what the pattern is about
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02:25:960 (145960|2,146110|0,146260|3,146410|1,146560|2,146710|0) - o god please... dont make 1/4 EXCEPT the sound is EXACTLY 100% the same pitch or same sound I kept jacks but rearranged them
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02:42:385 (162385|0,162385|3,162385|1,162485|2,162485|3,162585|1,162585|2,162685|0,162685|1,162785|2,162785|3,162885|2,162885|1,162985|3,162985|0,162985|1,163085|3,163085|2,163185|2,163185|1,163285|1,163285|0,163385|3,163385|2,163485|2,163485|1) - ehey i like this pattern.. but wait
oh right!!! 02:42:385 (162385|3,162485|3,162485|2,162585|2,162785|3,162785|2,162885|2,162985|3,163085|3,163085|2,163185|2,163385|2,163385|3,163485|2,163585|2,163585|3) - this is so badly heavy in the right hand... move 02:42:785 (162785|2,163385|2) - to collumn 1 to prevent it
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03:41:035 (221035|3,221110|3,221185|3) - CANCER
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05:27:835 - delete 1 note for consistency with 05:27:235 - 05:26:935 - 05:26:635 - it accents the guitar
05:29:035 - ^

thats all or
should i mod 6K too?
o,o?

Takane6 wrote:

underjoy are fancy speed streams? nvm dat duh


ene here o/

1 2 3 4

4K

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02:42:385 (162385|0,162385|3,162385|1,162485|2,162485|3,162585|1,162585|2,162685|0,162685|1,162785|2,162785|3,162885|2,162885|1,162985|3,162985|0,162985|1,163085|3,163085|2,163185|2,163185|1,163285|1,163285|0,163385|3,163385|2,163485|2,163485|1) - ehey i like this pattern.. but wait
oh right!!! 02:42:385 (162385|3,162485|3,162485|2,162585|2,162785|3,162785|2,162885|2,162985|3,163085|3,163085|2,163185|2,163385|2,163385|3,163485|2,163585|2,163585|3) - this is so badly heavy in the right hand... move 02:42:785 (162785|2,163385|2) - to collumn 1 to prevent it Your pattern is actually way harder, mainly because it has way more 2hand chords that are a lot harder to press than one hand jumps
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03:41:035 (221035|3,221110|3,221185|3) - CANCER that kind of jacks flows perfectly, because they are ONE handed

Takane6 wrote:

underjoy are fancy speed streams? nvm dat duh

ene here o/

[general]
check ai mod again... >>> Uninherited timing points conflict with 6K Collab Guardian diff. <<< Fixed by underjoy i think lol

1 2 3 4 5 6

6K

00:16:510 (16510|3) - move to 5 ok
00:16:585 (16585|0) - move to 4 ok
^ for better placement yet hand balance too
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00:21:985 - 00:22:135 - err 6 note? but only 5 at 00:22:735 - 00:22:885 - ??? lol true, fixed
^ both of this note has same power yet same instruments inside... consistency is should be happen here
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00:28:735 (28735|0,28885|0,29035|0,29185|0,29335|0,29485|0,29635|0,29785|0) - hmmm
this LN is okay... but this 00:28:660 (28660|2,28810|1,29035|2,29260|1,29410|2,29560|1,29635|2,29785|1) - can break the left hand feels
how about move 00:28:735 (28735|4,29035|3,29185|4,29335|4,29485|5,29635|3) - to collumn 2 and
and move 00:28:810 (28810|1,29035|2,29260|1,29410|2,29560|1,29635|2) - to another collumn but not at 2
like this : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4227953 >>> i make this for both hand balance yet readable pattern
at least make the collumn 1 2 3 at the consistent 1/2 gap... HOLY GOD THIS HELPS A LOT, THANKS XD
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from 00:31:585 - 00:32:785 -
i know this diff should be hard... but this 1/2 short LN can be deadly... i think better to arrange this with better patternize ?
maybe like this >>> https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4227974 ? >>> this looks challanging but its patternized well... you still can choose to keep ur own pattern tho a little rearrange, but following the pitch maybe
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02:13:810 (133810|5,133960|5,134110|5,134260|5,134410|5) - this snap actually kinda closer into the yellow line at 1/8 (?)
kinda like this (the snapping) https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4228040 >>> ive heard it carefully tho but still hard to find the exact snaps... try consult this with others too totally rearranged and its 1/6 lol, replaced by normal notes too
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02:15:760 (135760|1,135910|2) - i think it will be no one bothered if this changed into 2 notes fixed
02:16:960 (136960|4,137110|3) - with this too... since it has the same sound with this >> 02:16:135 (136135|3,136135|2,136210|4,136210|5,136285|2,136285|3,136360|5,136360|4,136435|3,136435|2,136585|3,136585|2,136660|4,136660|5,136735|2,136735|3,136810|4,136810|5,136885|2,136885|3) - tho fixed? so big timming lol
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00:50:485 (50485|1,50485|2,50635|3,50635|4) - same sound with 02:31:285 (151285|5,151435|4) - but different length of LN? fixed
and change this into normal note >>> 02:30:985 (150985|0,151135|1) - because it aint like that at 00:50:185 (50185|4,50185|1,50335|0,50335|5,50335|3) - here ok
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03:13:585 (193585|0,193585|2,193735|2,193735|0,194185|5,194185|3,194335|3,194335|5) - change this into 1/4 long LN for better emphasizing the guitar more... it suits well there ok, after all, some LNs are more harder to acc actually XD
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04:24:385 - add one nore for finish sound and better impact sound yet its stronger than 04:24:685 (264685|4,264685|5,264685|3) - ok

thats all from me >w<
ene out o/

Davin Fortune wrote:

Hello

Modding Request Via Queue

Sorry for EXTRA LATE :3

MOD STATUS : NOT COMPLETED
NOTE : DONT APPLY THEM UNTIL ITS COMPLETED

No hitsound
... okay

6K column : 1-2-3-4-5-6

HOPE THIS NEWBIE'S MOD IS USEFUL >_<

6K Collab Guardian

USE 1/8 to avoid unsanpped notes

00:14:785 - make it same like 00:15:085 - umm, they are the same, be more specific?

00:25:810 (25810|0) - ghost lol thanks
00:28:210 (28210|5) - ^, i guess the mistake is same at the same beat listen with 50% rate, here is drum
00:30:910 (30910|1) - ghost a big evidence of drum here.
00:33:460 (33460|2) - ^ fixed
00:48:610 (48610|5) - ^ no thanks
00:48:910 (48910|5) - ^ guitar sound
00:49:810 (49810|5) - ^ ^
00:54:010 (54010|3) - ^ ^
00:55:510 (55510|3) - ^ ^
01:20:860 (80860|3) - ^ no thanks
01:23:260 (83260|2) - ^ ^
01:46:060 (106060|5) - ^ drum sound
01:51:010 (111010|2) - ^ ^
02:10:210 (130210|5) - ^ ok
02:12:610 (132610|2) - ^ ok
02:22:660 (142660|5) - ^ ok and changed patterns
02:22:960 (142960|0) - ^ changed pattern
02:27:460 (147460|4) - ^ main pitch
02:37:060 (157060|1) - ^ ^

00:29:785 - start from here until 00:30:385 - make it like this, actually just add LN from 00:29:785 - to 00:29:860 -
http://puu.sh/mq4gA/21479295f4.jpg&#40;you can rearranged it if u want) looks a little strange, no thanks

00:39:985 (39985|5,40435|4,40885|3) - delete these, keep this part as chord style pattern as you did before no thanks

00:50:786 - add a note , same as 00:50:635 - just in 50:635

00:52:285 - 6 is too much make 4, i guess(4 reference 00:51:985 - ) the real pattern got 4 notes, the other LNs are just the end lmao


00:42:835 (42835|1,42910|3) - this pattern is unmatch with the flow of song fixed a bit, but why?

00:58:285 - make it 3 i am following guitar - drum, is not really necessary

01:02:285 (62285|2) - delete i listened that like 10 times with 50% playback rate and i feel a drum here
01:02:685 (62685|0) - ^, since it already the part of 01:02:635 (62635|2) - drum

01:01:685 (61685|5) - unsnapped listen carefull with 25% rate, i am following the 1/3 drum
01:01:985 (61985|3) - ^ ^
01:01:985 (61985|3,62285|2,62385|1,62585|0,62685|0) - ^ ^
02:42:485 (162485|0,162585|1,162785|2,162885|2) - ^ ^

01:03:085 - this part doesn't has sound as big as 01:03:685 - 1 note for the sound of the background.
01:04:285 - ^ ^

01:04:285 - start from here, seems there is differentiation pattern with the beginning part, which this part become simpler than first part, while first part use many chord to catch the drum's beat.(thats okay i guess since its collab), and start from this part pattern start to be easier, i mean don't raise SR much the song got a lot of tones, but we can´t follow all (NOT ALL XD) for make the diff more harder, the map need a introduction, a middle and a final

01:10:885 (70885|4,70885|5,70885|0,70885|2,70885|3,71035|4) - apply this pattern to other part start from 01:11:185 - until 01:11:785 - rearranging all, ghost notes lmao
02:52:135 - 02:52:435 - again? ^ rearranged

01:13:435 (73435|5) - delete this LN, and change into some chord note like the patterns after this part ^

01:18:985 (78985|2) - change it with notes, since this is insane/high stars diff no thanks

01:23:260 (83260|2) - make it 3 why o_o

start 01:24:385 - till 01:29:110 - NICE PATTERN lol thanks

01:29:185 (89185|5,90385|3,90385|4,90685|3,90985|4,91285|5) - these LN style mustn't placed in normal mania map like this, but it should be in LN mania map(Rearranged it) ok

01:32:035 - add a note at column 3 and 01:31:885 (91885|2) - move to column 4 rearranged

01:32:485 (92485|0,92485|1) - make these only a LN please ok

01:32:935 - add a note here deleted the note of before, not necessary now

01:36:085 - make it 4 like other part This is not intense like the other patterns like drum-guitar-background

01:36:385 (96385|4,96385|1) - make these into other column, it doesnt count in the repeative beats after this part i need more reviews and test about that

01:45:985 - make it 3 not intense sound

Start from 02:01:135 - until 02:05:410 - should be same at the very first part, which there is LN and note and make sure make they have same pattern(not so much changes) i can´t understand that, why?

02:12:235 - better make it into 3 or 4 to differeniate with the notes behind ok, but looks a little tight

02:18:385 - no special, so make it 3 ok

02:18:535 - make it 1, just in case to differeniate it with 02:18:685 (138685|4,138685|5,138760|1,138760|0) - good point

02:19:585 (139585|3,139660|5) - make them into 1 LN ok
02:20:035 (140035|2,140110|4) - ^ listen with 25% rate

02:27:610 - this part make it like this
http://puu.sh/mqkSf/2409a61863.jpg yea, but for different sound above that, i keep that

02:43:585 (163585|2) - ehh..., make it easier please -_- rearranged
02:44:785 (164785|3) - ^ rearranged

02:48:460 (168460|3,168460|2,168535|5,168535|0,168610|3,168610|1,168610|2,168685|4,168685|5,168685|0,168760|3,168760|2,168835|5,168835|0,168910|4,168910|3,168910|2,168985|1,168985|5,168985|0,169060|2,169060|4,169135|3,169135|0,169210|1,169210|4,169210|5,169285|3,169285|0,169285|2,169360|1,169360|5,169435|4,169435|2,169510|3,169510|1,169510|0,169585|5,169585|4,169585|2,169660|3,169660|0,169735|5,169735|1,169810|2,169810|3,169810|4,169885|5,169885|1,169885|0) - (if i don't wrong click)same with 01:07:660 (67660|4,67660|5,67735|1,67735|0,67810|4,67810|5,67810|2,67885|1,67885|3,67885|0,67960|5,67960|4,68035|1,68035|0,68110|5,68110|4,68110|2,68185|3,68185|0,68185|1,68260|5,68260|4,68335|1,68335|0,68410|2,68410|5,68410|4,68485|3,68485|1,68485|0,68560|5,68560|4) - this special pattern Ironically this is possible :/

02:54:385 (174385|4,174385|1,174460|0,174535|2,174535|3,174610|0,174610|5,174685|1,174685|2,174760|3,174760|4,174835|5,174835|0,174985|2,174985|5,174985|0,175060|3,175060|4,175135|0,175135|2,175210|3,175210|5,175285|0,175285|1,175360|3,175360|4,175435|2,175435|1,175510|4,175510|5) - with 01:13:585 (73585|3,73585|1,73660|5,73660|0,73735|2,73735|4,73810|5,73810|0,73885|3,73885|1,73960|4,73960|0,74035|3,74035|2,74110|4,74110|1,74185|2,74185|5,74335|3,74335|0,74485|2,74485|1,74560|4,74560|3,74635|2,74635|0,74710|5,74710|3) - make them same >.> rearranged a little, but no for make it more easy or harder

02:59:710 - 02:59:860 - 03:00:160 - miss beat
apply ^ also in the beginning part this will destroy the coordination of the player XD

03:01:585 (181585|5,182185|5) - better make them into 1, to make easier in playing this beatmap we got two guitars here, sorry

03:06:310 (186310|3,186310|5) - make these like 03:06:235 (186235|1,186235|2) - , this LNs don't get into this flow 03:06:385 (186385|4,186385|2,186460|3,186460|1,186535|0,186535|2) - but how i should rearrange it :/?

03:06:910 (186910|3,186910|5) - ^ ^

03:15:535 - make this 2 like other part near this part

03:15:985 - 03:16:585 - 03:16:885 - make it 4 please the 885 yes, the other patterns are not necessary

03:20:485 - this only normal bass, make it 2
03:20:785 - ^
03:20:935 - ^
03:21:085 - ^
03:21:385 - ^
03:22:285 - ^
03:22:585 - ^
03:22:885 - ^
03:23:185 - ^
03:23:485 - ^
03:23:785 - ^
03:24:085 - ^
03:24:385 - ^
03:24:685 - ^
03:24:985 - ^
Okay, maybe you can point this notes yourself(cant point out more than this)
Help to differeniate : Kick 03:35:935 - ; normal bass : 03:35:485 - Yea, i should fix all that patterns, that was the zenx part (so well maded lol)but i don´t know why he put all in triple

03:20:635 - this is a kick sound, make it 3 ok
03:24:235 - ^ rearranged but with good intentions
03:32:935 - ^ ok

03:28:885 (208885|1,208885|0,208885|2) - make the end at 03:29:035 - wut?

03:55:885 (235885|5,236185|5) - these notes mustn't in the jack, so move it to other column which also has LN far from this note
03:58:285 (238285|0,238585|0) - ^

03:58:585 - should be in 2 notes fixed a LN with that intention
03:56:185 - ^ is not really necessary

04:14:785 (254785|0) - make like 04:17:185 (257185|2) - please i can´t understand the purpose of this

04:19:735 (259735|2,260185|1) - 04:20:935 (260935|3,261385|4) - 04:22:135 (262135|2,262585|4) - ghost, if this part change into short LN will be no problem fixed

04:38:935 (278935|2,278935|0,278935|3,279085|5,279235|5,279235|1,279235|4,279235|3) - make these pattern like 04:38:185 (278185|3,278185|5,278335|0,278335|2,278485|0,278560|1,278635|0,278635|2,278785|0,278785|2,278785|4) - the focus is 04:39:085 (279085|5,279235|4,279235|5) - and add notes that isn't find there fixed... i think XD

04:38:485 (278485|0,278560|1,278635|2,278635|0) - apply this pattern at 04:40:210 - no thanks

Okay maybe 5 minutes get modded is enough, its already much >w<

GOODLUCK ~~

Valedict wrote:

Short mod b/c the real meat of this difficulty is jumpstreams/handstreams outside of light noodle sections and there isnt much to say about them (with this mod being similar to the one i did for kakuzetsu)

4k Collab Gladiator HOO BOY DRAGGINFARCE

02:32:785 (152785|3) - I only hear the short LNs in this spot, and even then this feels cluttered. fixd

03:00:460 (180460|0) - You really love one hand trills don't you? Lmao, I know you are pretty adamant about things like these so I'll just suggest that you at least shorten the length of these trills and have them alternate a bit more. trills are 2x shorter now

03:05:185 (185185|3) - Fill me in here, what are these holds mapped to? Playability-wise they are fine, but even at 60% playback speed I'm having a hard time figuring out what sound these are placed down for. significant guitar sound

03:19:585 (199585|1) - Is the guitar here really worth mapping holds to and making a rather long section of holdstreams? If the streams were broken that'd be another thing, but repetitive runningmen patterns feels tacky. yes, because its a collaboration and choruses SHOULD be different, my chorus is more about finger control. About repetative runningman patterns, i can consider that, but i need suggestions. At the moment I tried to imitate drums

Evening wrote:

uh yea things

Most of these are approximations, but it should be a good enough reason to not try to map them accurately and still be rankable

04:46:381 - 1/8

05:00:385 - uhh are you planning to make this guitar specific? 1/4 is fine if you're going for the drums, if you're going for the guitar solely it might be quite awkward to play(?)

05:01:435 - 1/3 +1/4 poly if you'd like

05:25:585 - approximately 1/6 as a whole

05:43:585 (343585|1,344035|1) - between these 2 notes are 1/6 approximately for guitar

05:46:885 - approximately....1/5? for half a measure... probably just not follow this guitar for simplicitythis feels so strange lol

05:47:785 (347785|2,347935|4) - 1/6 approximately its 1/4 with 25% playback

others looks simple enough/correct

Pope Gadget wrote:

http://puu.sh/mVUy6/a1ed90d676.osr
shit

pls edit? c:

also this chart deserves epic status, I love it so much <3

XeoStyle wrote:

Yo UJ o/ Yo!

Dragonforce - The 4K Mod Inside

00:29:335 (29335|1,29335|0,29410|3,29485|1,29485|0,29560|2,29635|1,29635|0,29710|3,29785|1,29785|0,29860|3,29935|1,29935|2,30010|3,30085|1,30160|3,30235|2,30235|1,30310|3,30385|2,30385|1) - What about CTRL + H here ? Gonna be easier too accu for the LN I think There is no change in pitch, so LNs stay at the first column
00:31:585 (31585|3,31635|2,31685|1,31735|3,31785|2,31835|1,31885|3,31935|2,31985|1,32035|0,32085|2,32135|1,32185|0,32235|2,32285|1,32335|0,32385|3,32435|2,32485|1,32535|3,32585|2,32635|1,32685|3,32735|2) - What about this ? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4499013 . It's a little bit harder to hit but follow the guitar So I think it's better. I went for playability here, no change
00:54:835 (54835|0,54835|3) - For this section you have 2 choices :
You follow the guitar : add a note at 00:54:910- and maybe some of them before ?
You follow the drum (My favourite, looks better and more concistant) : remove 00:55:210 (55210|1) - . second option
01:12:985 (72985|3,73135|3,73285|3,73435|3,73585|3,73735|3,73885|3,74035|3,74185|3,74335|3,74485|3,74635|3,74785|3) - rly ? lol lol xD moved one note so it's fine now
01:23:935 (83935|1,83935|0,84235|1,84235|2) - Why chords just here ? to accent the guitar in this moment
02:36:910 (156910|1) - flow better is you remove this one
02:44:635 (164635|2) - move to 2 ?
02:45:835 (165835|1) - move to 3 ?
02:59:935 (179935|2,180160|2) - Looks hard to hit.
03:39:235 (219235|2,219310|1) - move 4 and 1 ?
the 04:33:385 (273385|1) - trills start at 04:33:085-
04:34:060 (274060|2,274135|1,274135|3,274285|0,274360|1,274435|0,274435|2,274585|1,274660|2,274735|1,274735|0,274885|3,274960|2,275035|1,275035|3) - what about add some notes like this? : https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4499116 I don't put doubles on pedals
04:37:135 (277135|0,277135|1,277435|1,277435|0) - If you map the guitar, I don't think adding 2 chords like this is a good idee, consitency problem I think. actually I map both of those at this moment, doing 1/4 for guitar and adding chords for drums. Seems fine.
04:38:035 (278035|2,278035|1) - ^
(04:45:985 (285985|0) - oh god thats part is rood lol haha) hue
04:55:435 (295435|2,295510|2) - Looks like accu killer for me but it's ok if you stay it like this. jacksss
04:57:535 (297535|2,297610|2) - This one looks tricky to hit/accu because of the notes befores :/ I moved the jack to 4 to lessen the emphasis on column 3
05:05:110 (305110|2) - remove oke

Ok i'm not really fan of the chart, I probably wouldn't have chart it in this way (with like LN, hands for the snare in stream sections...). But it's metal, so you know I still kinda like it

puxtu wrote:

had a lil talk with _uj about general issues

2016-02-21 18:14 puxtu: rip hitsounds
2016-02-21 18:14 puxtu: i thought it's already hitsounded
2016-02-21 18:14 _underjoy: huh
2016-02-21 18:14 _underjoy: noo not yet
2016-02-21 18:14 _underjoy: but it will be relatively soon
2016-02-21 18:19 puxtu: atleast make the hitsound softer pls
2016-02-21 18:19 puxtu: normal-hitnormal is too noisy tbh
2016-02-21 18:19 _underjoy: ok will do :>
2016-02-21 18:20 puxtu: and maybe turn down the sample volume into 20%?
2016-02-21 18:21 _underjoy: well it will all be fixed when the actual hitsounds come
2016-02-21 18:21 _underjoy: for now just turn them down
2016-02-21 18:21 puxtu: nice
2016-02-21 18:21 puxtu: http://puu.sh/nfV61/6b6eaa1469.png do you know what this is?
2016-02-21 18:22 _underjoy: well it's our collab spread
2016-02-21 18:22 _underjoy: who mapped how much
2016-02-21 18:22 puxtu: yes
2016-02-21 18:22 _underjoy: actually there will be an easier 4k diff
2016-02-21 18:22 puxtu: [http://puu.sh/nfV9F/17a3019572.png i'm really concern about this rc]
2016-02-21 18:22 puxtu: oh right
2016-02-21 18:22 puxtu: that new rc
2016-02-21 18:23 puxtu: so you're gonna make easier diff?
2016-02-21 18:23 puxtu: it's ok then
2016-02-21 18:23 _underjoy: well I don't have to since we got 6 months for ranking
2016-02-21 18:23 _underjoy: but I think I will anyway
2016-02-21 18:23 _underjoy: and my percentages together are more than skalim
2016-02-21 18:23 _underjoy: so it's fine
2016-02-21 18:23 _underjoy: I even asked Starry about this
2016-02-21 18:23 puxtu: orly
2016-02-21 18:23 _underjoy: yarly
2016-02-21 18:24 puxtu: but it's so close to skalim
2016-02-21 18:25 puxtu: 76,2 vs 76,9
2016-02-21 18:27 _underjoy: yeah
2016-02-21 18:27 _underjoy: but still more :>
2016-02-21 18:27 puxtu: damn you're right :v
2016-02-21 19:22 puxtu: it's like skalim made 3 diffs and you 3,1 diffs
2016-02-21 19:22 _underjoy: yeah xD

I'll continue the rest here..
6k- 00:15:235 - seems like you forgot to add 1/4 notes like in 4K - 00:15:235 (15235|2,15310|1) - I just remapped the beginning XD
both - 00:18:685 (18685|0,18835|1) - missing one 1/4 at blue thick? I'm pretty sure the hi-hat stream is more longer at this part I don't think so
6k - 00:18:985 - you have enough columns to put a ln here for that legit guitar sound yeah added
4k - 00:22:060 (22060|1) - I don't think this note is necessary. but well, because you layered the bgm sound so I think it's fine
4k - 00:23:185 - from this point, the guitar sound becomes much faster than 1/4, so use higher snaps maybe? I am not sure, no change for now
both - 00:31:585 - snaps conflict, I think both diffs are following the same sound but why are you guys using different snaps? I map 1/6, he follows 1/4 drums while adding LNs because the guitar is here
4k - 00:31:585 - maybe add jumps in every 1/1 for snare sound if you don't think it's too much for 1/6 stream the streams are singlestreams only
both - 00:41:185 - ^ again
4k - 00:55:585 - this pattern looks familiar hmm... that's how I map that part
6k - 01:02:785 - hmm this part lack a lot of 1/2 notes idk if it was intended or not, add graces for 01:03:385 (63385|0) - and anything else and extend the lns maybe? it looks weird if it's just 1/1 long
4k - 01:05:185 (65185|0) - extend until 01:07:585 - of course
4k - 01:07:585 - dude nice anchors they're intentional
6k - 01:09:985 - and nice mini lns lol, ignoring all those 1/4 drums tho..
both - 01:14:785 - this snapping conflict is a no-go from me
4k - 01:19:360 (79360|3) - oh aren't you the cutest hammer ever lol =^.^= I didn't map the stream because of that hammer though
6k - 01:32:935 - the 1/4 stream starts here
4k - 01:33:685 (93685|0) - why oops
6k - 01:34:810 - missing a 1/4 note for drum kick
4k - 01:36:160 - same tbh ??
both - 01:38:785 - TAKE MY STREAAAM~
6k - 01:42:760 (102760|3) - remove for consistency?
6k - 02:03:385 - add grace?
6k - 02:05:785 (125785|4) - remove, no sound
4k - 02:06:985 - follow the hi-hat? No, but I forgot to add more notes for melody
both - 02:13:735 - another conflict
6k - 02:43:885 - same issues like in 01:02:785 -
both - 02:55:585 - a
4k - 04:33:085 - kamui v2.0

puxtu wrote:

4k - 04:33:085 - kamui v2.0 How short LN trill is similar to kamui? :O

MEGAtive wrote:

Dragonforce - The Warrior Inside

Column
|1|2|3|4|5|6|

[General]
Hitsounds: Should be hitsounded
Graphics: 1366x768
Timing: Looks good
Audio: 192kbps
AIMod: I can see AIMod bitching about size over 10MB, but yeah there's nothing to do for this lel
Metadata: I assume this is right since I don't really know about Dragonforce's metadata

[6K Collab Guardian]

Mods

1. 00:20:785 - I prefer pattern like http://puu.sh/nDQjy/415ea699b4.png because it have the same symmetrical method like 00:19:585 yea, looks good XD
2. 00:47:035 (47035|0) - I'd prefer you to move this to |6|. I see that 00:45:985 (45985|0,46135|0,46285|0,46285|4,46435|4,46585|4,46585|2,46735|2,46885|2) are actually alternating hand from left hand-right hand-left hand. So end it with right hand should be more balanced. welp, for no overcharge the left
3. 00:52:135 (52135|2,52435|3) - I'm actually can't see what instrument that sounds long here so I'd suggest you to make these normal notes. But it's still up to you. is part of the guitar´s sound, changing his tone
4. 00:55:735 (55735|0,55960|5,56185|5,56410|0) - I think these are just additional notes for the pattern since well, 00:55:735 - 00:55:810 - 00:55:885 - 00:55:960 - and ahead are playing same instruments. fixed a little, but no the apperture of the pattern
5. 01:00:235 - I think this should be triple considering on how you map it at 00:58:135 - 00:58:435 - etc. fixed, but the difference is in 85:135 we no got sound, so, fixed too
6. 01:03:235 - 01:03:835 - 01:05:035 - You can add note here since there's a drum sound here and you are adding notes for these instruments in 01:05:635 (65635|3,66235|3) . sorry but the symmetry of the patterns lost with the other sounds :/
7. 02:19:360 - IDK if it's intentional or not, but you missed a note for the drum. lol thanks
8. 02:38:185 - I think you misplaced the triple notes since the snare is sounding at 02:38:335 and 02:38:485 . thanks
9. 02:44:035 - 02:44:335 - 02:44:635 - Is it intentional to miss the drum sounds here? the same about symmetry
10. 03:55:585 - I think it's better for you to map the piano sounds here like before. rearranged
11. 06:14:485 - Quint here? You sure? I think this should be Quad like 06:14:185 - true XD

This map is so rock. I mean, yeah the genre is metallic rock here but wow the map is so awesome. Have some star here. Good Luck~

Nivrad00 wrote:

From Nivrad00's Mania Queue

The 4K is too much for my limited experience to handle sadly

6K Collab Guardian

00:25:585 - what's the purpose of the green line here i don´t know lol
00:58:660 (58660|4,58660|5,58660|3,58735|1,58735|2) - looks like the layering got messed up here lol thanks XD
01:24:385 - I find this so hard to read lmao. Not that I want you to change it; in a way a reading challenge is just as valid as a playing challenge and it's interesting to see one so clearly. Also the lane colors kind of makes it look like art when it goes by so fast .o. changed due to a more easy pattern in 03:05:185 - for make coherence
02:00:310 - why leave this out? a mistake XD
03:09:985 - HAHA this pattern is so audacious lol XD
03:30:835 - missing note damn thanks XD
04:41:185 - holy shit and is FCable XD
04:50:785 - holy sh- actually nvm, if I react to every interesting pattern this mod will be two pages long lmao
05:04:735 - missing note lol ok
05:07:585 (307585|4,307660|1,307735|3,307810|2) - er I only hear three notes in the solo for the duration of these four notes i continue hearing 4 notes, but i´ll rearrange it lol
05:26:785 - i'm gonna have to object to the shields in this part. if you replace all the LNs with single notes it looks plain ridiculous and unjustified, especially the deal at 05:26:685 (326685|3,326785|3,326860|3,327010|3) - welp, just rearranged a little pattern for justify the LNs and follow the pitch of the guitar XD
05:31:585 - oh my god i love this layering so much. It reminds me of FtB. No one EVER does this on osu even though it's a great effect that makes your map stand out. ilu Thanks
05:53:185 - the guitar is definitely not doing 1/4ths here. or are these LNs for drums o-o the guitar, but now fixed
06:38:785 - missing notes? That´s the part of underjoy
06:43:585 - er there are overlapping notes here, unless my osu is messing up ;n; This too lol

I love everything about this. Challenging 6K, fun streams, daring and stylish patterns, cool jacks/anchors/trills/LNs. It even has a cool bg!! You know, Heroes of Our Time was like my holy grail when I first started playing osu!mania

@Skalim tbh the amount of anchors makes me twitch a little. I couldn't help but notice all the embedded trills in the dense chordstreams, and what's up with stuff like 00:58:510 (58510|5,58660|5,58810|5,58960|5,59110|5,59260|5,59410|5,59560|5,59710|5,59860|5) - ?? On the other hand I do think the excessive anchorage plays an important part in establishing the style and difficulty of this map, so despite my mapper instincts I suppose this isn't a bad thing ;p;

That was a big mistake for my part sincerelly, i take precautions about the column spam lately, thanks for notice that

I'ma go see if I can pass it. Have some stars, really hope this gets ranked!

pporse wrote:

hi~ from pm

column set
1 2 3 4 5 6

6K MOD

[6K Collab Guardian]
00:11:635 (11635|4) - move to 1st column
for pitch All ok


00:12:535 (12535|1) - move to 3rd column
00:12:685 (12685|2) - move to 2nd column
00:12:835 (12835|1) - move to 3rd column
for pitch All ok


00:25:810 (25810|0) - delete?
there is no sound rearranged and all ok


00:27:010 (27010|2) - ^ same as before
All ok

01:11:635 - add a note on 3rd column
there is empty. i guess it is your intention.
but i think it is better to add a note :3 its intentional XD


01:27:985 - ~ 01:29:185 -
i think that there is sound at 01:28:210 - 01:28:510 - 01:28:810 - 01:29:110 - a little sound of drum lol

and 01:27:985 (87985|4,87985|5,88060|2,88060|3) - there is drum bass + drum snare sound
but 01:28:135 (88135|5,88135|4) - there is just drum bass

so i think it is better to use just one note on 01:28:135 -

how about this?
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5308772 meeh like this, but good refference


01:45:835 - add a note?
it is snare timing. you should use 3-chords like other red-line already fixed in the work of hitsound lmao
but if it is your intention, then pass it :3


02:26:185 (146185|3) - move to 5th column
02:26:260 (146260|2) - move to 2nd column
it is different sound from 02:26:035 (146035|3,146110|2,146335|3,146410|2) - we got already a different hitsound, but beside of the original, originally maybe we can add some notes there, but better keep that XD


02:36:235 - add a note?
it is snare timing. you should use 3-chords like other red-line ok


02:54:910 (174910|0) - delete?
there is no sound lol true, rearranges a pattern too


03:08:785 - ~ 03:09:985 -
it is similar to 01:27:985 - ~ 01:29:185 -
i think that you should use note at 03:09:010 - 03:09:310 - 03:09:610 - 03:09:910 -
but if you want to highlight 03:08:785 (188785|4,188785|5,188860|3,188860|2) -
then pass my opinion guitar + drum, so close XD


03:43:435 (223435|3) - delete? is from the guitar


03:45:985 - ~ 04:00:385 -
pattern structure of this interval is not constant. fixed... i did my best XD

03:55:735 (235735|3,236035|4) - delete
03:58:435 (238435|2) - delete
03:59:935 - add a note
it you want to keep the constant pattern, you should follow this.

but i don't know why do not use note on 03:46:135 - 03:46:435 - 03:46:735 - @_@
actually i think it is better to use notes on all red-line. because i don`t wanna overcharge that part, is like the "rest"... i erased the snare notes too for more balance


04:05:185 (245185|5,245335|5,245485|5) - it is not suited
04:05:335 (245335|5) - move to 4th or 5th column ok

04:07:735 (247735|5,247885|5) - same opinion as before
04:07:735 (247735|5) - move to 2nd or 3rd column ok

04:10:135 (250135|0,250285|0) - same opinion as before
04:10:135 (250135|0) - move to 4th or 5th column ok

04:12:535 (252535|5) - ^
04:14:935 (254935|5) - ^
04:17:335 (257335|5) - ^
All ok

04:34:435 (274435|2,274435|4,274435|0,274435|5) - delete one note.
this is 4-chords. too many orz
you should use 3-chords. a mistake lol XD, now rearranged the jacks for more sense

04:37:735 (277735|3,277735|5,277735|0,277735|4,278035|4,278035|0,278035|3,278035|5) - ^ same as before ok


05:05:035 - add note? like 05:07:435 (307435|0,307435|3,307435|4) - ok


05:11:260 - add a note on 4th column its intentional

Do not forget to check the AiMOD in 4K diff ! :3



really REALLY hard map for me lol but nice pattern

good luck

ArcherLove wrote:

hi~

this chart actually already good lol so this suggestion only
1~6

6k

00:25:585 (25585|0) - add 1 more note here? ok
01:02:185 (62185|5,62335|4,62485|3,62635|2) - change to short note? (short LN) the sound say :nope: (or maybe its intentional XD)
01:18:985 (78985|2) - add to 1? no thanks

good luck!~

ajeemaniz wrote:

6K is hot damn layered

i won't really mod the technical aspect of the mapset structure because it looks awesome, rather some meta thingy that might be better to fix first

[Mania General]
dat metadata

Artist:
4K Collab Gladiator: DragonForce
6K Collab Guardian: Dragonforce

Artist unicode:
4K Collab Gladiator: DragonForce
6K Collab Guardian: Dragonforce

i mean lmao

fix thx

and im not sure, but http://puu.sh/pVNva/9e43ba5a24.png drum-hitfinish has delay


there's a lot of not hitsounded part (in guitar layering) that makes the hitsound rhythm become awkward, i highly suggest to add the kick-&-snare hitsounds (snare using normal-hitclap.wav) even you're layering the guitar for better hitsound feedback to player
and some awkward drum hitsound can be replaced with normal-hitclap as well (such in 04:34:135 (274135|5) - and so on)

lastly, idk if its correct but these red lines in the ending can be removed because you don't snap anything in there.. hence these timing points are useless.. o.o
(better to create a back up in case you remove it)

[4K]
00:31:585 (31585|3) - 00:41:185 (41185|0) - better to give drum hitsound because it looks awkward without hitsound feedback to the player
01:14:260 (74260|1,74410|1) - remove, ghost
01:49:360 (109360|2,109510|2) - not sure if ghost.. remove?
05:23:166 (323166|3,323335|0) - what is this, resnap again
04:42:535 (282535|1,282535|0) - 1313 2424 pls C:

[6K]
00:31:585 (31585|3) - 00:41:185 (41185|0) - better to give drum hitsound because it looks awkward without hitsound feedback to the player
01:49:360 (109360|3) - 01:49:510 (109510|2) - not sure if ghost.. remove?
02:03:435 - add in 2, 02:03:535 (123535|0,123535|1,123685|0,123685|1) - 13 13, 02:03:835 (123835|2) - 5
05:32:785 (332785|2,332935|1) - 2 13 05:33:085 (333085|2,333160|1,333235|0) - 123
05:33:535 (333535|1,333535|0,333685|2,333760|1,333835|0) - ^
and so on for each 2 beats (or maybe 4), 321 23 321 23 looks very repetitive
05:25:935 (325935|2,326035|1) - aaa swap this

aaaa neat <3 actually i couldn't find anything else than that, it should be ready for star icon / bubble after you fix metadata and other stuff i guess..

good luck guys!