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Kohna
Hi, map is fun but HP 6.5 is maybe a bit high in last diff ;_; gl for rank!
7ambda
The ranked Natsukoi Hanabi is HP 7. Stop complaining and just learn to acc it.
VINXIS
bubbel my Map
defiance

Thanks wrote:

bubbel my Map
Thanks
Emilie-
buff map again
mits
natsukoi hanaPP

buff
Monstrata
Spark of Light

00:11:360 (4,5) - Not really liking how this is such a big jump while in the intro. Especially when you dont emphasize 00:10:791 (3) - .
00:12:689 (2,3) - It's not necessary to space these out the same as 3>4 imo. 4 Is emphasized so yea it can have a large spacing, but setting the jumps out like this makes it seem like 3>4 is just any other jump and not special.
00:26:360 (1,2,3) - Go for something besides a triangle here to emphasize 3 instead?
00:35:663 (2,3,4) - Emphasize 3 instead of 2 and 4 with your jumps. 00:37:183 (2,3) - Consistency with here.
00:38:512 (1,2,3) - Kinda odd that 2>3 isn't as big as 1>2
00:58:069 (1,2,3,4) - This could be structured better aesthetically imo...
01:03:196 (3,4,5) - Are you sure you want to emphasize 4 over 5?

I don't mind the large jumps. But your emphasis control for verse, and sections that aren't particularly emphatic could be a bit better.

nasya

01:14:018 (1,2) - Remove NC here and put it on 01:14:588 (3) - ? NC Rhythm seems odd here.
01:14:398 (2) - Also, this jump seems really big for a note that isn't really that special compared to the other notes in the song. Like, its bigger than the jumps on 01:16:297 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - so it feels a bit misplaced imo,.

Insane

00:31:297 (2,3,1) - Odd choice to put the jump on 3, instead of on 1.
00:32:626 (2,3) - Same^

Hard

00:21:613 (1,2,3) - I don't think these need to be jumps... or at least, that spaced.
01:11:550 (1,2,3) - Generally, your choice of jumps seems very irregular. Like you do jumps here. But not on previous downbeats like 01:08:322 (4,1) - 01:09:841 (5,1) -
01:14:398 (4,1) - Then you put jumps here but 01:15:917 (5,1) - here it's not as big.
01:16:297 (1,2) - And then here is really big but then 01:17:436 (3,1) - and 01:18:196 (2,3) - are really small in comparison.

Jumps seem misplaced on this diff.
SeaRasp
ERIT: wrong forum
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_3638005

Monstrata wrote:

Spark of Light

00:11:360 (4,5) - Not really liking how this is such a big jump while in the intro. Especially when you dont emphasize 00:10:791 (3) - .
00:12:689 (2,3) - It's not necessary to space these out the same as 3>4 imo. 4 Is emphasized so yea it can have a large spacing, but setting the jumps out like this makes it seem like 3>4 is just any other jump and not special.
00:26:360 (1,2,3) - Go for something besides a triangle here to emphasize 3 instead?
00:35:663 (2,3,4) - Emphasize 3 instead of 2 and 4 with your jumps. 00:37:183 (2,3) - Consistency with here.
00:38:512 (1,2,3) - Kinda odd that 2>3 isn't as big as 1>2
00:58:069 (1,2,3,4) - This could be structured better aesthetically imo...
01:03:196 (3,4,5) - Are you sure you want to emphasize 4 over 5? Yes, I want 4 to be emphasized more than 5, but looking at it again, 5 was under-emphasized so I gave it a bit of spacing.

I don't mind the large jumps. But your emphasis control for verse, and sections that aren't particularly emphatic could be a bit better.

Fixed everything else

nasya

01:14:018 (1,2) - Remove NC here and put it on 01:14:588 (3) - ? NC Rhythm seems odd here.
01:14:398 (2) - Also, this jump seems really big for a note that isn't really that special compared to the other notes in the song. Like, its bigger than the jumps on 01:16:297 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - so it feels a bit misplaced imo,.

Insane

00:31:297 (2,3,1) - Odd choice to put the jump on 3, instead of on 1.
00:32:626 (2,3) - Same^

Hard

00:21:613 (1,2,3) - I don't think these need to be jumps... or at least, that spaced.
01:11:550 (1,2,3) - Generally, your choice of jumps seems very irregular. Like you do jumps here. But not on previous downbeats like 01:08:322 (4,1) - 01:09:841 (5,1) -
01:14:398 (4,1) - Then you put jumps here but 01:15:917 (5,1) - here it's not as big.
01:16:297 (1,2) - And then here is really big but then 01:17:436 (3,1) - and 01:18:196 (2,3) - are really small in comparison.

Jumps seem misplaced on this diff.
no reply = fixed. Thanks!
will update my diffs later, when nasya replies.
Izzywing
irc about the hard

irc
16:16 Riven: hey! can you irc me for hanabi? i don't want the full set, i feel like the rest are ready, just one diff
16:17 Hobbes2: ya sure
16:17 Hobbes2: the hard right?
16:17 Riven: yes
16:17 Riven: you see, this is the first hard i ever mapped
16:17 Riven: and the last time i played a hard diff was about 2 years ago
16:17 Riven: lol
16:18 Hobbes2: it feels more like a light insane than a hard tbh
16:18 Riven: i reverted the difficulty to the old version, before monstrata's post so no fixes on it yet
16:18 Hobbes2: hards dont usually have jump sections like00:19:335 (3,4,5,6) -
16:18 Riven: ok so, do people use distance snap for hard
16:18 Hobbes2: not for the whole thing, but circle patterns ar eusually DSd
16:19 Hobbes2: 00:21:613 (1,2,3) - spacing like this feels really big for a hard
16:19 Riven: hmm
16:19 Hobbes2: basically if you use circles, DS it
16:19 Hobbes2: because circles are hard
16:20 Hobbes2: 00:22:753 (5) - this kind of jump is okay
16:21 Hobbes2: i suggest looking at a doormat hard
16:21 Hobbes2: hes a beast at making hard diffs
16:21 Riven: 00:17:626 (3,4,5,6,7) - this?
16:21 Riven: or 00:23:512 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - this?
16:21 Hobbes2: the second exmaple is definitely too much
16:21 Hobbes2: especially with the 5 note burst
16:21 Riven: maybe i should ask for a gd from him and delete my hard :^)
16:22 Hobbes2: this diff isnt bad, just feels like a light insane instead of a hard
16:22 Riven: so hard diffs don't have many jumps then?
16:22 Hobbes2: 00:31:297 (2,3,4,1) - i know this is the slow part but like
16:22 Hobbes2: this spacing for the entire thing woulda been good lol
16:23 Hobbes2: they have jumps, but they dont have jump patterns
16:23 Hobbes2: if that makes sense
16:23 Riven: right
16:23 Riven: 00:12:499 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - so this is too much then?
16:23 Riven: ill use 00:31:297 (2,3,4,1) - this spacing for it
16:24 Hobbes2: yea that would be good
16:24 Hobbes2: tbh the spacing itself probably wasnt the issue for monstrata
16:24 Hobbes2: i think his problem was that your jumps werent really consistent
16:25 Riven: yeah, tbh i don't want it to be a light insane, cause then i would need another diff
16:25 Hobbes2: ex: theres a jump to 01:11:550 (1) - but in the previous measure theres no jump to 01:10:221 (1) -
16:25 Riven: 01:04:145 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - is this ok?
16:25 Hobbes2: too many circles
16:25 Hobbes2: its a lower bpm so you can get away with more but longer sections like this are still too much
16:26 Hobbes2: 01:14:398 (4,1) - big jump, but01:15:917 (5,1) - is not a big jump
16:26 Hobbes2: i think these inconsistencies are the bigger issue
16:26 Riven: ill study some other hards for the thought process behind it, and ill work for consistency on my diff
16:27 Hobbes2: yeah, that should be good
16:27 Riven: ok, thanks x)
16:27 Riven: free kds go post!!
16:27 Riven: or edit last post
16:27 Hobbes2: definitely recommend doormat maps to check out
N a s y a

Monstrata wrote:

nasya

01:14:018 (1,2) - Remove NC here and put it on 01:14:588 (3) - ? NC Rhythm seems odd here.
01:14:398 (2) - Also, this jump seems really big for a note that isn't really that special compared to the other notes in the song. Like, its bigger than the jumps on 01:16:297 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - so it feels a bit misplaced imo,.
fix~
thx monstrata san :)

http://puu.sh/uhH5e/aca6bb15fc.zip
unko
can't pay ur country's crippling debt with pp :)
Logic Agent
short mod from my stream

[Spark of Light]
  1. 00:09:272 (3) - would reccomend using a cirlce and then a 1/2 slider after it so you can click on the change in the song
  2. 00:39:272 (1,2) - I feel like stacking these would work better
  3. 01:14:588 (1,2,3) - would like to see this pattern fit together much like the previous two


[N a s y a's Insane]
  1. 00:35:854 (3) - if you ctrl + g this the implied motion is much nicer and the emphasis on 4 is stronger
  2. 01:04:145 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is a pretty big diffspike and honestly it's subjectievly harder than the topdiff
  3. 01:23:702 (1) - ctrl + h


[Hard]
  1. 00:13:829 (1,2) - make this more triangular? you can do that by just movinug literally every object before this down a bit
  2. 00:18:575 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - would prefer if you did this, i think variation is nice when the harder version comes last however these stacked circles would be considered the "spike."
  3. 00:23:512 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - these jumps though they're at a low bpm are a pretty intense spike, especially considering how you go into a short stream afterwards, and there's no real decrease in intensity after the stream (stacked 1/2 into a 1/2 slider) I would prefer if you used a smaller ds on the jumps and also started going with an easier rhythm after the short stream (like using a reverse slider or something along those lines)
  4. 00:27:689 (1,1,1) - would prefer same visual distance between the three of these, you did it later on so
  5. 00:31:297 (2,3,4,1) - this is pretty linear, you should try and angle it more
  6. 01:04:145 (1,2,3,4) - the intensity here is pretty hard and would rather see a leadin to some kidn of jumps instead of just going ham with stars immediately. maybe by making the timestamp into sliders you would be able to achieve that
  7. 01:15:348 (3,4) - i would put 4 at the tail of 3 because the current positiong takes away from the power of 5
  8. 01:19:335 (1,2) - would ctrl + g 2 because the power on that sound is less than 1 imo so it makes sense for it to be easier
  9. 01:21:423 (3,4) - you didn't do any kind of overlap like this until now, so introdcuing a new aesthetic choice so late is kinda bleh. also it doesn't look that great
  10. 01:24:272 (2,3,4,5) - could do a slider with 2 circles after it here, for the same reason as earlier. an increase in intensity instead of just consistent difficulty
  11. 01:26:170 (3) - i would ctrl g this because the next pattern is much smaller in spacing compared to this one



gl! i love this song lol
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_3638005
Logic Agent

Logic Agent wrote:

short mod from my stream

[Spark of Light]
  1. 00:09:272 (3) - would reccomend using a cirlce and then a 1/2 slider after it so you can click on the change in the song Used my own rhythm but still made 00:09:461 (1) - clickable.
  2. 00:39:272 (1,2) - I feel like stacking these would work better ok
  3. 01:14:588 (1,2,3) - would like to see this pattern fit together much like the previous two Too many 3x 120s, I don't want to overload it and make it too dull, also the 3 has a different feel to it from the 1 and 2 so I'd rather make it angled like that.


[Hard]
  1. 00:13:829 (1,2) - make this more triangular? you can do that by just movinug literally every object before this down a bit I tried xd
  2. 00:18:575 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - would prefer if you did this, i think variation is nice when the harder version comes last however these stacked circles would be considered the "spike." Sure
  3. 00:23:512 (2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) - these jumps though they're at a low bpm are a pretty intense spike, especially considering how you go into a short stream afterwards, and there's no real decrease in intensity after the stream (stacked 1/2 into a 1/2 slider) I would prefer if you used a smaller ds on the jumps and also started going with an easier rhythm after the short stream (like using a reverse slider or something along those lines) I'll look into this. It's low bpm so I'm not really sure. I'll discuss with some more people and see.
  4. 00:27:689 (1,1,1) - would prefer same visual distance between the three of these, you did it later on so changed latter part.
  5. 00:31:297 (2,3,4,1) - this is pretty linear, you should try and angle it more You mean the jump from 4 to 1 is linear? Otherwise it's pretty circular, or even angled if you snap to each note. idk it plays really nice for me, ill keep it.
  6. 01:04:145 (1,2,3,4) - the intensity here is pretty hard and would rather see a leadin to some kidn of jumps instead of just going ham with stars immediately. maybe by making the timestamp into sliders you would be able to achieve that Putting sliders there ruins it way too much for me. The sliderends end up being on really strong beats and it feels very underwhelming overall. The bpm is fairly low so I believe that it's okay.
  7. 01:15:348 (3,4) - i would put 4 at the tail of 3 because the current positiong takes away from the power of 5 01:15:348 (3) - ended up making this a reverse slider.
  8. 01:19:335 (1,2) - would ctrl + g 2 because the power on that sound is less than 1 imo so it makes sense for it to be easier alright.
  9. 01:21:423 (3,4) - you didn't do any kind of overlap like this until now, so introdcuing a new aesthetic choice so late is kinda bleh. also it doesn't look that greatok
  10. 01:24:272 (2,3,4,5) - could do a slider with 2 circles after it here, for the same reason as earlier. an increase in intensity instead of just consistent difficulty I'd rather keep this rhythm. The intensity of the triple will be gone if I put it after a slider, so no.
  11. 01:26:170 (3) - i would ctrl g this because the next pattern is much smaller in spacing compared to this oneI didn't want to ctrl + g so I decreased the spacing between the sliders.



gl! i love this song lol


Thanks for modding!
unko
tfw this will get ranked but not scuttlebug
N a s y a

Logic Agent wrote:

short mod from my stream

[N a s y a's Insane]
  1. 00:35:854 (3) - if you ctrl + g this the implied motion is much nicer and the emphasis on 4 is stronger
  2. 01:04:145 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this is a pretty big diffspike and honestly it's subjectievly harder than the topdiff :arrow: keep
  3. 01:23:702 (1) - ctrl + h
thx modding :)

http://puu.sh/unJ6x/af70ba4319.zip
VINXIS
i want the 2 kd PLZ

general

  1. turn on widescreen supp X d
  2. smokeman has diffrnt combocolours idk if u want tht but ye

top diff

  1. 00:24:272 (1,2,3,1) - this wud b better emphasized and play better if it was just a stream leading onto the next sliderhead tbh cuz then it feels lik a drum fill being played idk
  2. 00:25:601 (4,5,6,1) - isnt tht easily misreadable as a 1/2 instead of a 1/1 idk i cant map pp
  3. 01:00:727 (1) - tbh extending this to 3/4 and giving it a more meme sv change wud make the nc feel more justifiable idk
  4. 01:25:411 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - thisd proly play better if the beginning was left-right and the extending jumps were up-down Lol
Monstrata
Kalkililria Pryoitooildjiyjds

00:18:765 (2) - You could probably position this circle a bit better with respect to the visual consistency of 00:19:145 (2,2,2,2) -
00:44:778 (2,3) - Stacking really underrepresents the drum that lands on 3. Give it some movement at least?
01:01:487 (2,3) - Same idea here. You could try stacking 3 with 01:00:727 (1) - 's head, and maybe changing the slider shape or something if it doesn't fit ur aesthetic completely.
01:28:449 (1,2,1,2) - Really wouldn't recommend this angle. repetitive topleft - bottom-right movement is really uncomfortable for people who are right-handed (which is the majority of ppl who will be playing this). Try holding a pencil and moving bottom left > top right. it's a lot easier than top left > bottom right.

Hard

00:25:791 (5) - This placement doesn't look too nice with 3. I think you can structure it better. Don't worry so much about the jump here from 4. The positioning and slider leniency allows players to move from 4>5 without feeling like they had to make a jump.
01:27:689 (3,4,5) - Triangle with 3>4>5? the spacing is kinda inconsistent atm

Normal

00:08:512 (4,1,2) - Spacing is slightly inconsistent between 4>1

[]

Should be all now.
Zare
pp mappers should quit mapping
zhuxiaoyan
can u please map this like an actual map and not inferno
Illyasviel
Rank when?
KnockOnDood

[XV] wrote:

Rank when?
My thoughts exactly. RANK PLS
s2milo

KnockOnDood wrote:

[XV] wrote:

Rank when?
My thoughts exactly. RANK PLS

agreed xd
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_3638005

Monstrata wrote:

Kalkililria Pryoitooildjiyjds

00:18:765 (2) - You could probably position this circle a bit better with respect to the visual consistency of 00:19:145 (2,2,2,2) - Yea it was too far left, I changed it.
00:44:778 (2,3) - Stacking really underrepresents the drum that lands on 3. Give it some movement at least? OK, I ctrl+g 3.
01:01:487 (2,3) - Same idea here. You could try stacking 3 with 01:00:727 (1) - 's head, and maybe changing the slider shape or something if it doesn't fit ur aesthetic completely. Changed, but instead of stacking on 1's head I just blanketed 3 to 1.
01:28:449 (1,2,1,2) - Really wouldn't recommend this angle. repetitive topleft - bottom-right movement is really uncomfortable for people who are right-handed (which is the majority of ppl who will be playing this). Try holding a pencil and moving bottom left > top right. it's a lot easier than top left > bottom right. I tried making it more comfortable to play? I think it's better now. I also saved the old version since it has been 2 months and you probably don't remember how the jumps were: http://puu.sh/vUoyU/3d3bebcc74.osu

Hard

00:25:791 (5) - This placement doesn't look too nice with 3. I think you can structure it better. Don't worry so much about the jump here from 4. The positioning and slider leniency allows players to move from 4>5 without feeling like they had to make a jump. Sure
01:27:689 (3,4,5) - Triangle with 3>4>5? the spacing is kinda inconsistent atm Triangle it is!

Normal

00:08:512 (4,1,2) - Spacing is slightly inconsistent between 4>1 Made it consistent.

Should be all now.
Genjuro
hi from m4m!

uhh im new at this idk how to format but o well :3

00:18:575 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - nerf
00:23:322 (1,2,3,4,5) - nerf
01:04:145 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3) - nerf
01:07:183 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,1) - remap
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_3638005
thanks for the mod but i'll keep everything as it is!
Monstrata
Surprise bubble! I totally forgot about this xP. Well I rechecked it already but then alien stuff happened over the last few days lol.
Emilie-
:thinking:
Ideal
whomst'd had asked for pp
pishifat
nsaya
01:04:335 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - start the buildup from like 30% volume. 10% is too low to be audible :(

if u give a suggestion on any difficulty of https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/639319/discussion i'll qualify
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_3638005
I changed the build-up volume for nasya's part.

Also for Spark of Light I made slight adjustments to 00:18:575 - this part, mostly for visual purposes and aesthetics and decreased the spacing on some jumps.

Here are the metadata sources:

Syph
just a small thing i noticed in editor but uh why did u silence the last spinner lol
there's a cymbal crash and u even added u finish to it but it's like inaudible now cuz it's on 5% (sry if this got pointed out before)
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_3638005
I originally had the spinner end 01:37:563 - here, and the volume was 5% since the music kept decreasingly getting lower in volume.

But then I shortened the spinner and I took the old inherited point and placed it on the new spinner's end. I never really bothered with it but I suppose I could change it even though it doesn't really matter.

Changed, thanks for the feedback!
Spaghetti
cool map, looking forward to seeing it in the ranking system :D
Topic Starter
DeletedUser_3638005
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pishifat
Lacrimosa
\o/
Vivyanne
Nikakis
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh !1!!!1111!! εΠΙΤΕΛΟΥΣ

Genjuro
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