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Joined October 2014

Left 2016-11-01T05:06:39+00:00

Zero__wind wrote:
M4M from my queue

Left's Insane
00:17:901 (1,2,3,4,5) - doesn't flow so smooth imo, maybe move 3 and 4 down to around (248,360)? fixed
00:58:593 (1,2) - the rhythm feels better if you merge them into one 1/2 slider as I don't think there's any hit-worthy beat at 00:58:752 (2) - i'll consider it cuz it's pattern now
01:19:976 (5,2) - this overlap doesn't look so nice, maybe move 5 up a bit to avoid this? well i don't think it's bad
01:22:848 (1,2,3,4) - I would like to see a jump pattern here fixed

good luck

thx for mod~

Left's Insane

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Title:COOLEST
TitleUnicode:COOLEST
Artist:CustomiZ
ArtistUnicode:カスタマイZ
Creator:TaMul
Version:Habi's Hard
Source:坂本ですが？
Tags:Left HabiHolic [ kuro usagi ] Sakamoto Desu Ga? op opening tv size
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pkhg

2,507 posts

Joined May 2010

pkhg 2016-11-25T18:09:57+00:00

[Easy]

00:03:380 (1,1) - id space them properly cuz the 2nd slider is already visible before the 1st slider end
00:10:242 (1) - 00:33:540 (3) - 00:54:284 (2) - 00:59:391 (2) - 01:04:497 (2) - avoid 1/2
00:23:008 (3,4) - ^same. use 3/2 slider instead
00:24:763 (2) - u better make it a 3/2 cuz the downbeat isnt strong as the red tick in this case http://puu.sh/su7uG/1c2652a57b.jpg
00:43:274 (3,4,1) - this rhythm feels a bit weird cuz you mapped some snares and other strong sounds with sliderends which could be misleading for newer players. try this http://puu.sh/su7EX/3badea4144.jpg
01:04:976 (3) - this does it better 00:59:870 (1,2) -
01:12:635 (3,1) - what about http://puu.sh/su7T1/221ea8d431.jpg this way you dont skip snares neither the downbeat and fits vocals imo
01:19:976 (2,3,4) - this gives the proper emphasis to each beat http://puu.sh/su80k/583d3e8175.png

[Normal]

00:03:380 (2) - you didnt nc'd this on easy. make it consistent pls (i prefer removing the nc from easy)
00:05:135 (2,3) - since its a normal diff you can use 1/2 more freely. i suggest you to do it instead of mapping stuff with sliderticks. try this http://puu.sh/su8cU/36756e0678.jpg
00:11:040 - since you follow vocals mostly mapping this will make sense
00:17:901 (1) - this nc breaks your pattern. better remove it
00:25:721 (4,1) - this overlap is misleading. try to keep a clear and smooth path between notes
01:15:189 (3) - id destroy the symmetry here to map this section properly. as i said on 00:05:135 (2,3) - you can use 1/2 so theres no point to make this section less denser than easy diff
01:16:784 - and map this pls
your rhythms were way better from kiai onwards. maybe you can take a look at my diff regarding mainaining a clear path between notes and maybe some rhythms

[Habi's Hard]

cool

[Left's Insane]

00:00:827 (1) - remove nc? its kinda useless
01:26:997 (2,3) - ctrl+g maybe?
love your maps

[Extra]

add video
set stack leniency to 4. higher stack leniency ruins patterns like this one 00:10:401 (1,2,1) - . enable stacking on editor so u can check other patterns like 01:14:231 (2,4,5,6) -
00:11:838 (2,3) - maybe you can increase the spacing here. feels really awkward to play
00:12:476 (1,2) - i think the spacing is too large. i couldnt predict the 1/4 gap
00:13:593 (1,2) - swap nc
00:15:348 (2,3) - ctrl+g fits better rhythm wise
00:15:827 (1,2) - id replace this with a 1/2 sliders or maybe what left did on his diff
00:16:784 (2) - remove the reverse and add a circle. this way you dont skip the kick on 00:17:104 -
00:29:231 (1,2) - more spacing here will fix the lack of emphasis youre giving to (2)
00:29:870 (5,6,7,1) - really awkward to play. sharper angles are more confortable to play
00:31:465 (3) - circles are more fitting here cuz voice is strong on both white and red tick
00:52:050 (8,1) - unstack for emphasis
01:06:891 (1,2,3) - (3) is way stronger than (2) but has a larger spacing
i didnt pointed out everything cuz theres much stuff to fix. work more on your spacing emphasis and rhythm choices. pishifat has many useful videos regarding these topics that could help you a lot

[COOLEST K.USAGI]

00:31:784 - duplicated greenline

good luck

GugUCorn

936 posts

Joined October 2011

Topic Starter

GugUCorn 2016-11-26T07:27:27+00:00

pkhg wrote:
[Easy]
00:03:380 (1,1) - id space them properly cuz the 2nd slider is already visible before the 1st slider end k
00:10:242 (1) - 00:33:540 (3) - 00:54:284 (2) - 00:59:391 (2) - 01:04:497 (2) - avoid 1/2 k
00:23:008 (3,4) - ^same. use 3/2 slider instead k
00:24:763 (2) - u better make it a 3/2 cuz the downbeat isnt strong as the red tick in this case http://puu.sh/su7uG/1c2652a57b.jpg good! fixed
00:43:274 (3,4,1) - this rhythm feels a bit weird cuz you mapped some snares and other strong sounds with sliderends which could be misleading for newer players. try this http://puu.sh/su7EX/3badea4144.jpg lol nice! fixed
01:04:976 (3) - this does it better 00:59:870 (1,2) - k
01:12:635 (3,1) - what about http://puu.sh/su7T1/221ea8d431.jpg this way you dont skip snares neither the downbeat and fits vocals imo k
01:19:976 (2,3,4) - this gives the proper emphasis to each beat http://puu.sh/su80k/583d3e8175.png k
[Normal]
00:03:380 (2) - you didnt nc'd this on easy. make it consistent pls (i prefer removing the nc from easy) oh fixed
00:05:135 (2,3) - since its a normal diff you can use 1/2 more freely. i suggest you to do it instead of mapping stuff with sliderticks. try this good. i fixed as you said.
00:11:040 - since you follow vocals mostly mapping this will make sense k
00:17:901 (1) - this nc breaks your pattern. better remove it k
00:25:721 (4,1) - this overlap is misleading. try to keep a clear and smooth path between notes k
01:15:189 (3) - id destroy the symmetry here to map this section properly. as i said on 00:05:135 (2,3) - you can use 1/2 so theres no point to make this section less denser than easy diff fixed
01:16:784 - and map this pls fixed
your rhythms were way better from kiai onwards. maybe you can take a look at my diff regarding mainaining a clear path between notes and maybe some rhythms thanks it's lots of help!
[Extra]
add video already added
set stack leniency to 4. higher stack leniency ruins patterns like this one 00:10:401 (1,2,1) - . enable stacking on editor so u can check other patterns like 01:14:231 (2,4,5,6) - i see! fixed!
00:11:838 (2,3) - maybe you can increase the spacing here. feels really awkward to play fixed pattern on this part
00:12:476 (1,2) - i think the spacing is too large. i couldnt predict the 1/4 gap ^
00:13:593 (1,2) - swap nc k
00:15:348 (2,3) - ctrl+g fits better rhythm wise good fixed
00:15:827 (1,2) - id replace this with a 1/2 sliders or maybe what left did on his diff nope because i want to add jump as single note
00:16:784 (2) - remove the reverse and add a circle. this way you dont skip the kick on 00:17:104 -fixed
00:29:231 (1,2) - more spacing here will fix the lack of emphasis youre giving to (2) fixed
00:29:870 (5,6,7,1) - really awkward to play. sharper angles are more confortable to play k
00:31:465 (3) - circles are more fitting here cuz voice is strong on both white and red tick you do have a point. but after fixed this part, i don't want to change slider to circle note. maybe it'll be ok..!
00:52:050 (8,1) - unstack for emphasis k
01:06:891 (1,2,3) - (3) is way stronger than (2) but has a larger spacing fixed
i didnt pointed out everything cuz theres much stuff to fix. work more on your spacing emphasis and rhythm choices. pishifat has many useful videos regarding these topics that could help you a lot thanks! i'll see that

[COOLEST K.USAGI]
00:31:784 - duplicated greenline fixed
good luck

thanks you for modding! it was really lots of help!

HabiHolic

5,488 posts

Joined October 2012

HabiHolic 2016-12-01T13:56:14+00:00

좀 이상한부분있어서 고쳐놨습니다 업댓해주세요

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GugUCorn

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GugUCorn 2016-12-01T15:31:47+00:00

HabiHolic wrote:

좀 이상한부분있어서 고쳐놨습니다 업댓해주세요

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Affirmation

2,554 posts

Joined March 2015

Affirmation 2016-12-08T09:49:51+00:00

역시 한국인은 한국어를 써야해.....

[General]
3.4/4.7 하드와 인센의 난이도입니다. 난이도 차이 너무 큰데 라이트인센 같은거 하나 만드시는걸 권장합니다.

[이지]
00:23:008 (3) - 컨트롤 hj써서 00:23:806 (4) - 랑 흐름 맞춰주시면 좋을것 같네요.
00:40:721 (1) - 뉴콤보 제거

[노말]
00:30:189 (2,3) - 슬라이더 하나로 하는게 플레이에 편할듯합니다.
00:40:721 (1) - 뉴콤제거

[엑스트라]
00:03:380 (1,2) - 저번에 irc에서도 간단히 말했지만 1/4 박자 간격에 이런 점프 넣는거 상당히 어렵습니다. 00:04:976 (1,2,3,4) - 1/2 박자 간격에 DS를 이렇게 좁게 잡으셨으면서 앞에 1/4 박자에 그렇게 큰 점프를 넣어서 강조할 필요는 없을것 같네요. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6754863 이렇게만 해도 되었을거고 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6754865아니면 이렇게라도 가능했을것 같네요.
00:10:721 (1) - 다른 비트들( 00:10:401 (1) - 00:11:040 (1) - )처럼 00:10:960 - 여기까지 슬라이더를 끌어주시는게 좋을것 같습니다.
00:18:221 (3,5) - 단순히 삼각형 패턴만 쓰니깐 뭔가 창의성이 떨어지는것 처럼 보였습니다. 얘네 둘이 다른데 놔보시는건 어떨까요
위에 00:03:380 (1,2) - 얘를 컨셉으로 잡으실거면 00:23:088 (2,3) - 띄우시는게 좋을 것 같네요.00:17:582 (6,1) - 마찬가지.
00:24:763 (3,1) - 이 패턴은 상당히 읽기 어렵다고 보는데요, 당장 봐도 2번이 1번보다 엄청나게 가까이에 있고 1/4 박자 간격에 다음노트가 여기 배치되어있는 1번에 있을거라고는 상상도 하기 힘들 것 같습니다.
00:31:465 (7) - 제가 에디터로만 봐서 이런건지는 모르겠는데 12345 서클 노트들 잔상 때문에 7번이 슬라이더일 거라는 생각을 하지 못했습니다. 그냥 12345에 따라 반 정도 오버랩 시키는 쪽이 스택보다는 좀 더 나을 것 같습니다.
00:38:806 (1) - 슬라이더 속도 줄일 이유가 없는것 같네요.
00:42:635 (1) - 얘 역시 오버랩 피해주세요.
00:42:955 (3,1) - 00:46:066 (2,3) -
00:56:040 (7,2) - 얘도 조금 읽기 어려웠네요.
01:26:678 (1,2,3) - 얘네들에 비해 01:26:997 (3,1) - 얘가 너무 떨어져있어요.

Good luck

GugUCorn

936 posts

Joined October 2011

Topic Starter

GugUCorn 2016-12-08T11:19:21+00:00

Neoskylove wrote:
역시 한국인은 한국어를 써야해.....

[General]
3.4/4.7 하드와 인센의 난이도입니다. 난이도 차이 너무 큰데 라이트인센 같은거 하나 만드시는걸 권장합니다.

[이지]
00:23:008 (3) - 컨트롤 hj써서 00:23:806 (4) - 랑 흐름 맞춰주시면 좋을것 같네요. no
00:40:721 (1) - 뉴콤보 제거 강조시키려 넣었습니다 패스

[노말]
00:30:189 (2,3) - 슬라이더 하나로 하는게 플레이에 편할듯합니다. 이건 고려 좀 해봐야겠네요 패스
00:40:721 (1) - 뉴콤제거 이지와 같습니다 패스

[엑스트라]
00:03:380 (1,2) - 저번에 irc에서도 간단히 말했지만 1/4 박자 간격에 이런 점프 넣는거 상당히 어렵습니다. 00:04:976 (1,2,3,4) - 1/2 박자 간격에 DS를 이렇게 좁게 잡으셨으면서 앞에 1/4 박자에 그렇게 큰 점프를 넣어서 강조할 필요는 없을것 같네요. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6754863 이렇게만 해도 되었을거고 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6754865아니면 이렇게라도 가능했을것 같네요. 이정도는 괜찮다고 생각드는데요..
00:10:721 (1) - 다른 비트들( 00:10:401 (1) - 00:11:040 (1) - )처럼 00:10:960 - 여기까지 슬라이더를 끌어주시는게 좋을것 같습니다. ㄴㄴ..
00:18:221 (3,5) - 단순히 삼각형 패턴만 쓰니깐 뭔가 창의성이 떨어지는것 처럼 보였습니다. 얘네 둘이 다른데 놔보시는건 어떨까요 패스할께요
위에 00:03:380 (1,2) - 얘를 컨셉으로 잡으실거면 00:23:088 (2,3) - 띄우시는게 좋을 것 같네요.00:17:582 (6,1) - 마찬가지. 앞에하곤 이쪽하곤 다르죠..
00:24:763 (3,1) - 이 패턴은 상당히 읽기 어렵다고 보는데요, 당장 봐도 2번이 1번보다 엄청나게 가까이에 있고 1/4 박자 간격에 다음노트가 여기 배치되어있는 1번에 있을거라고는 상상도 하기 힘들 것 같습니다. 이부분은 전부터 고려하고있는 부분이에요. 일단은 맨처음에 했던걸로 수정했습니다
00:31:465 (7) - 제가 에디터로만 봐서 이런건지는 모르겠는데 12345 서클 노트들 잔상 때문에 7번이 슬라이더일 거라는 생각을 하지 못했습니다. 그냥 12345에 따라 반 정도 오버랩 시키는 쪽이 스택보다는 좀 더 나을 것 같습니다. 다른분이나 저나 플레이하는데는 문제없어보였는데, 안보일수도있다고하니까...절반오버랩시켜도 모양은 안 이상하니까 수정했습니다
00:38:806 (1) - 슬라이더 속도 줄일 이유가 없는것 같네요. 가사 부분에서 강조시키고싶어서 넣은것같네요
00:42:635 (1) - 얘 역시 오버랩 피해주세요. 괜찮아요~:p
00:42:955 (3,1) - 00:46:066 (2,3) -
00:56:040 (7,2) - 얘도 조금 읽기 어려웠네요. 음 괜찮다고생각합니다
01:26:678 (1,2,3) - 얘네들에 비해 01:26:997 (3,1) - 얘가 너무 떨어져있어요. 강조시키려 큰 점프를 넣었습니다 플레이상에는 문제없어요

Good luck

thanks

PyroBear

144 posts

Joined October 2015

PyroBear 2016-12-09T07:02:55+00:00

다들 한국분이시니까 한국어로 할게요~

[Left's Insane]

00:15:827 (1)에서 (2) 로 건너갈 때에 거리가 너무 먼 것 같네요. (사실 하면서 눈치를 못챘다 :* )

헉, 다른 건 문제점이 없네요

별을 드리겠습니다. BN 불러도 됄 것 같으려나?

Irohas

1,353 posts

Joined May 2014

Irohas 2016-12-09T16:33:33+00:00

#modreqs

easy

00:04:976 (1,2) - First, it's not as it was a big issue, but I think it's better to avoid this kind of (1) slider on easy diffs, you can try to make a rhythm as https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6764102, second I really recommand this rhythm because it's kinda inconsistent cause you mapped the loud drum at 00:05:135 - and not at 00:05:774 -
00:08:167 (2,1) - blanket here is really ugly lol
00:10:401 (3) - NC here is necessary according to your NC pattern 00:06:252 (1,1) -
00:26:997 (2) - I think finish on its tail is not necessary it makes kinda loud when playing on the contrary 00:26:359 (1) -'s tail needs a finish
00:40:401 (3,1) - flow is not really good, you started by making a kind of circular movement at 00:39:763 (1,2,3) - so I think it's better to keep this flow a bit as http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6764205 cause it's forced the player to make a movement that he doesn't expect
00:49:018 (4,2) - what about avoiding this kind of overlap?
00:53:487 (1) - you should try to make as 00:58:593 (1) - I think it'll fit better and you didn't map drums at it and I think it's a better choice
01:04:976 (2) - it doesn't look good as much imo
01:23:646 - I think it's better to skip that the sound is not as loud as that

normal

00:04:976 (1) - clap here is needed, it feels really weird without hitsound
00:10:401 (3,4) - what about trying to replace it by a slider to emphasize better the loud finish sound at 00:11:040 (5) - ?
00:14:072 - mapping this is not necessary since drums is not as loud
00:14:710 - what about trying to map this also ? same sound than 00:15:029 -
00:26:678 (2,3) - same as easy about finishes
01:01:784 - what about trying to make this clickable ? cause you mapped as 01:00:827 (1) - while they don't really sound the same (hope you understand)
01:20:295 (3,4) - inconsistency with 01:15:189 (3,4,5) - I think it'll be better if you add a circle between

habi

00:11:838 (2,3) - 00:14:391 (2,3) - kinda inconsistent spacing try to stack 00:11:838 (2,3) - because it's only here that you didn't stack
00:28:912 (4,1) - 00:52:848 (3,4) - reducing the spacing would surely be better (according to 00:00:508 (1,2,1) -)
00:34:338 (5,1) - NC should be on (5) not on (1)
00:35:614 (3) - 00:38:167 (5) - 00:40:721 (5) - 00:41:678 (1) - NC here would be good
cool diff

left

00:12:316 (5,1) - what about increasing a little bit more spacing to show the emphisize ?
00:13:593 (1) - this slider end needs to be muted according to 00:15:827 (1) -
00:17:104 (3) - circles would fit better than slider since there are loud drums on it and I think circles would emphasize better them
01:13:274 (1,2,3,4,5) - a "straight" stream would be better visually I think
01:18:221 - there is nothing above as 01:17:582 -, 01:16:944 -; I think it's better to make them consistent, or maybe try to map 01:17:582 - and 01:16:944 -

extra

00:21:572 (1,2) - slider should be better than circles, since sound at 00:21:731 (2) - don't deserve being "clickable". a slider end would fit better
00:25:242 (2,3) - inconsistency with 00:22:689 (1,2,3) - try to remove (2) since it's a bit overmapped to me
00:33:540 (2,3) - spacing should be a bigger a bit as 00:31:784 (1,4) -
00:32:263 (2,3,4) - overmapped and inconsistent with 00:37:210 (2,3) -
00:59:072 (2,3) - same as above but with 01:04:178 (2,3,4) -
01:17:423 - NC because SV change

coolest

00:21:252 (3) - I think it's better to map those drums after since it's the higher diff imo
00:26:997 (2,1) - spacing too huge compared to 00:26:359 (7,1,1,2,1,2) -
00:52:050 (4,1) - not really a good flow imo, it forced the player to make an awkward movement

[]
that's all for me good luck!

Deppyforce

1,989 posts

Joined November 2014

Deppyforce 2016-12-10T07:12:10+00:00

[coolest]
00:18:380 (5,6,7) - 5 ->6 should be smaller spaced than 6->7 tbh cuz its stronger
00:33:699 (4,5,6) - try ctrl+g rhythm to follow vocals
00:49:417 - missed 1/4 snare here, if u intended to make this part a jump i highly recommend u change 00:49:338 (3) - to kickslider instead of just circle
01:03:460 - theres literally no sound here zzz

[extra]
00:30:907 (2) - ey theres no sound here, the rhythm here should be mapped like this if u listen closely http://puu.sh/sKoHe/32253fca4d.jpg
00:41:359 (1,2) - seriously i think this is too fast for what the song provides
01:14:231 (2,4,5,6) - g. http://puu.sh/sKoL7/bf7b8dba2b.jpg u should try blanket the first circle instead in this case

h sorry for short mod no kds if changed nothing
good luck

GugUCorn

936 posts

Joined October 2011

Topic Starter

GugUCorn 2016-12-10T07:57:00+00:00

MugiwaraSekai wrote:
#modreqs

easy
00:04:976 (1,2) - First, it's not as it was a big issue, but I think it's better to avoid this kind of (1) slider on easy diffs, you can try to make a rhythm as https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6764102, second I really recommand this rhythm because it's kinda inconsistent cause you mapped the loud drum at 00:05:135 - and not at 00:05:774 - just i want to emphasize on not 00:05:774 but 00:05:933. anyway, your opinion is not bad. but i want to stay. i'll consider it later.
00:08:167 (2,1) - blanket here is really ugly lol oh fixed
00:10:401 (3) - NC here is necessary according to your NC pattern 00:06:252 (1,1) - That could be so, but it is successive things..maybe
00:26:997 (2) - I think finish on its tail is not necessary it makes kinda loud when playing on the contrary 00:26:359 (1) -'s tail needs a finish nope. i want to add symbalz sound here. because it's my drum cover.
00:40:401 (3,1) - flow is not really good, you started by making a kind of circular movement at 00:39:763 (1,2,3) - so I think it's better to keep this flow a bit as http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/6764205 cause it's forced the player to make a movement that he doesn't expect fixed
00:49:018 (4,2) - what about avoiding this kind of overlap? when (2) slider start, (4) slider's body is already gone. so it'll be not problem..maybe
00:53:487 (1) - you should try to make as 00:58:593 (1) - I think it'll fit better and you didn't map drums at it and I think it's a better choice fixed
01:04:976 (2) - it doesn't look good as much imo fixed
01:23:646 - I think it's better to skip that the sound is not as loud as that fixed
normal
00:04:976 (1) - clap here is needed, it feels really weird without hitsound oh i forgot to add it
00:10:401 (3,4) - what about trying to replace it by a slider to emphasize better the loud finish sound at 00:11:040 (5) - ? not bad. fixed
00:14:072 - mapping this is not necessary since drums is not as loud i see. fixed
00:14:710 - what about trying to map this also ? same sound than 00:15:029 - fixed
00:26:678 (2,3) - same as easy about finishes same reason to easy diff.
01:01:784 - what about trying to make this clickable ? cause you mapped as 01:00:827 (1) - while they don't really sound the same (hope you understand) i'll consider it.
01:20:295 (3,4) - inconsistency with 01:15:189 (3,4,5) - I think it'll be better if you add a circle between no
extra
00:21:572 (1,2) - slider should be better than circles, since sound at 00:21:731 (2) - don't deserve being "clickable". a slider end would fit better no
00:25:242 (2,3) - inconsistency with 00:22:689 (1,2,3) - try to remove (2) since it's a bit overmapped to me no
00:33:540 (2,3) - spacing should be a bigger a bit as 00:31:784 (1,4) - nope
00:32:263 (2,3,4) - overmapped and inconsistent with 00:37:210 (2,3) - removed a note on blue tic
00:59:072 (2,3) - same as above but with 01:04:178 (2,3,4) - no
01:17:423 - NC because SV change yup but no.
that's all for me good luck!

Thanks!!

GugUCorn

936 posts

Joined October 2011

Topic Starter

GugUCorn 2016-12-10T08:07:30+00:00

Deppyforce wrote:
[extra]
00:30:907 (2) - ey theres no sound here, the rhythm here should be mapped like this if u listen closely http://puu.sh/sKoHe/32253fca4d.jpg i see. fixed
00:41:359 (1,2) - seriously i think this is too fast for what the song provides maybe it's not have problem. because as you know, there is same pattern on monstrata's beatmap, Can Do.
01:14:231 (2,4,5,6) - g. http://puu.sh/sKoL7/bf7b8dba2b.jpg u should try blanket the first circle instead in this case that maybe you check stacking option. In my editor..

h sorry for short mod no kds if changed nothing
good luck

thanks :3

Deppyforce

1,989 posts

Joined November 2014

Deppyforce 2016-12-10T09:02:31+00:00

TaMul wrote:
Deppyforce wrote:
[extra]
01:14:231 (2,4,5,6) - g. http://puu.sh/sKoL7/bf7b8dba2b.jpg u should try blanket the first circle instead in this case that maybe you check stacking option. In my editor..

yeah it looks fine in your editor but it'll look like my pic when you actually play the map :/
change stack leniency maybe?

GugUCorn

936 posts

Joined October 2011

Topic Starter

GugUCorn 2016-12-10T09:12:58+00:00

Deppyforce wrote:
yeah it looks fine in your editor but it'll look like my pic when you actually play the map :/
change stack leniency maybe?

yup, already changed it to 4.

HabiHolic

5,488 posts

Joined October 2012

HabiHolic 2016-12-14T12:12:48+00:00

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Left 2016-12-15T02:16:02+00:00

MugiwaraSekai wrote:
#modreqs

left
00:12:316 (5,1) - what about increasing a little bit more spacing to show the emphisize ? vocal isn't changing, so this spacing
00:13:593 (1) - this slider end needs to be muted according to 00:15:827 (1) - using soft sampleset instead
00:17:104 (3) - circles would fit better than slider since there are loud drums on it and I think circles would emphasize better themrip i'm using symmetry pattern here
01:13:274 (1,2,3,4,5) - a "straight" stream would be better visually I think well now is ok
01:18:221 - there is nothing above as 01:17:582 -, 01:16:944 -; I think it's better to make them consistent, or maybe try to map 01:17:582 - and 01:16:944 - song is obviously different there, and i had some intentions.
that's all for me good luck!

thx for mod!

kul

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GugUCorn

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GugUCorn 2017-01-02T13:28:54+00:00

Irohas wrote:
#modreqs

coolest
00:21:252 (3) - I think it's better to map those drums after since it's the higher diff imo it maybe cause of sound, "hey!"
00:26:997 (2,1) - spacing too huge compared to 00:26:359 (7,1,1,2,1,2) - i'll consider it.
00:52:050 (4,1) - not really a good flow imo, it forced the player to make an awkward movement pass
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that's all for me good luck!

Deppyforce wrote:
[coolest]
00:18:380 (5,6,7) - 5 ->6 should be smaller spaced than 6->7 tbh cuz its stronger not bad consider it
00:33:699 (4,5,6) - try ctrl+g rhythm to follow vocals good! fixed
00:49:417 - missed 1/4 snare here, if u intended to make this part a jump i highly recommend u change 00:49:338 (3) - to kickslider instead of just circle fixed
01:03:460 - theres literally no sound here zzz agree but no change

fixed by me cause of long absent [ kuro usagi]
thanks mod!

Saileach

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Joined November 2014

Saileach 2017-01-18T03:04:05+00:00

OH YEAH YEAH
Song and map is HYPE, gl, take my stars

GugUCorn

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GugUCorn 2017-01-18T10:07:08+00:00

- Rain - wrote:
OH YEAH YEAH
Song and map is HYPE, gl, take my stars

lol 5 stars..Thanks a lot!

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2017-01-22T02:39:16+00:00

Sorry, super late lol.

COOLEST

00:23:167 (2,3,4) - Don't do spaced triplets here, the 1/4 is barely even audible. It really sounds overmapped imo tbh xP
00:34:338 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Really unsure what rhythm you are following here. I think vocal is best tbh, since 00:33:221 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - follow the vocal rhythm really well.
00:52:449 (2,3) - Better to just stack. The custom stack isn't necessary and the angle isn't actually good imo.

Extra

00:15:348 (2,3) - Ctrl+G sounds better in terms of rhythm. Make the snare on 00:15:508 - clickable.
00:59:550 (3,4) - This deserves a larger jump imo. No emphasis onto 4 ;c
01:16:784 (3,1,2,1) - You should NC them based on SV change and use a custom NC rhythm here.

Like this, the combo colors are used again so purple = slow pink = fast

01:17:104 (1,1) - I wouldn't recommend using a full overlap here tho. Since 01:16:784 (1,1) - are rotated, you can do the same for these two sliders instead of stacking.
01:26:199 (5) - NC here and remove on 01:26:358 (1) - imo. Changing NC's in between a stream like this looks really ugly D:

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Other diffs look good! Do you have metadata btw?

GugUCorn

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GugUCorn 2017-01-22T03:28:19+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
Sorry, super late lol.

COOLEST

00:23:167 (2,3,4) - Don't do spaced triplets here, the 1/4 is barely even audible. It really sounds overmapped imo tbh xP i see. removed (3) note.
00:34:338 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Really unsure what rhythm you are following here. I think vocal is best tbh, since 00:33:221 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - follow the vocal rhythm really well. fixed with followed vocal
00:52:449 (2,3) - Better to just stack. The custom stack isn't necessary and the angle isn't actually good imo. agreed, fixed

Extra

00:15:348 (2,3) - Ctrl+G sounds better in terms of rhythm. Make the snare on 00:15:508 - clickable. fixed ctrlG and snare
00:59:550 (3,4) - This deserves a larger jump imo. No emphasis onto 4 ;c i think it is not big jump. its distance is 1.02x
01:16:784 (3,1,2,1) - You should NC them based on SV change and use a custom NC rhythm here. fixed
Like this, the combo colors are used again so purple = slow pink = fast
01:17:104 (1,1) - I wouldn't recommend using a full overlap here tho. Since 01:16:784 (1,1) - are rotated, you can do the same for these two sliders instead of stacking. fixed to this. https://puu.sh/tvaUr/256198c67a.png
01:26:199 (5) - NC here and remove on 01:26:358 (1) - imo. Changing NC's in between a stream like this looks really ugly D: fixed

Other diffs look good! Do you have metadata btw?

Thanks for mod!

about kuro usagi's diff, Caused of absent fixed by me.

and I don't know your meaning about metadata. is it wrong about its metadata?
+edit. I found some metadata of this song from Venix. p/5566974
here is medata link. http://www.shi-no-kakaku.com/2016/04/cu ... su-ga.html
i don't know sure..

Last edited by GugUCorn 2017-01-22T03:32:55+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2017-01-22T03:31:05+00:00

Nono, just wondering if you have an official source for your metadata, like link to discography or something.

If you don't I can find official source too.

Left

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Left 2017-01-22T13:19:09+00:00

이거 왜 매냐태고 랭맵 다 있는데 메타를 아무도 제시안했는지ㅋㅋㅋ

GugUCorn

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GugUCorn 2017-01-22T13:32:10+00:00

Left wrote:
이거 왜 매냐태고 랭맵 다 있는데 메타를 아무도 제시안했는지ㅋㅋㅋ

어 그러고보니까 그러네요ㅋㅋㅋ

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2017-01-24T07:17:48+00:00

Metadata seems fine. Checked myself. Alright then, bubbled!

GugUCorn

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GugUCorn 2017-01-24T10:48:25+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
Metadata seems fine. Checked myself. Alright then, bubbled!

lol thanks, monstar!

F D Flourite

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F D Flourite 2017-02-01T15:59:08+00:00

bubble check. Something needs a deeper consideration imo.

Red -- Directly relate to bubble pop
Bold -- Highly relate to bubble pop or should be carefully concerned
normal -- Suggestions or personal opinions

[General]

normal-slidertick25.wav is unused. Delete it.
normal-hitfinish.wav has a delay of more than 5ms. Here is the fixed version: Download
The video is in Korean, while I'm sure that the original video is in Japanese. So I would prefer a video with Japanese lyrics or with no lyric.

[Extra]

Slidertick hitsounds are not used properly in this diff and COOLEST K. USAGI, especially (and mostly) on 3/4 sliders

Guideline wrote:
Slider tick hitsounds are discouraged. If you want to use them, then make sure that their volume is balanced (i.e. notably quieter than regular hitsounds). A very loud slider tick, especially when only used once or twice, would be extremely jarring.
Take 01:05:933 (5,1,2) - in Extra as an example. Their lengths are the same, so players would expect them sharing the same rhythm at the first time. But they are not, which is even acceptable because due to the slidertick on 01:06:252 (1) - , this pattern could be somewhat readable. However, players will hear a loud clap hitsound on the slidertick of 01:06:252 (1) - , which is extremely confusing. It could mislead players that they've hit a 1/2 slider, which lead to a bad gameplay experience.

Even if such patterns may be considered readable and playable, switching track in such pattern is still confusing. Obviously you are trying to follow the drum at the red tick (01:06:412 - ), but still the slidertail of 3/4 slider is snapped to the fade-out of vocal. Such variation of music track in such a short period of time could be extremely distracting tbh.

What's worse, your map is lack of consistency on such patterns. I know 01:06:252 (1) - slidertick on this slider is trying to follow the second whistle on this music section. But among all other similar music sections, patterns are not similar in rhythm. ( 00:56:040 (7,1,2) - ) In this case, slidertick hitsounds on 3/4 sliders seems really disorganized.

And, I don't like 3/4 sliders sharing the same length as 1/2 sliders, please reconsider such patterns in Extra. You may slightly extend the length of 3/4 sliders to make such patterns more clearly. (COOLEST doesn't have this problem I guess)

After finishing all, you may call me back.

GugUCorn

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GugUCorn 2017-02-02T10:48:53+00:00

F D Flourite wrote:
bubble check. Something needs a deeper consideration imo.

Red -- Directly relate to bubble pop
Bold -- Highly relate to bubble pop or should be carefully concerned
normal -- Suggestions or personal opinions

[General]
normal-slidertick25.wav is unused. Delete it. fixed
normal-hitfinish.wav has a delay of more than 5ms. Here is the fixed version: Download thanks, fixed
The video is in Korean, while I'm sure that the original video is in Japanese. So I would prefer a video with Japanese lyrics or with no lyric. I knew that. it's just little consideration for my country.
[Extra]
Slidertick hitsounds are not used properly in this diff and COOLEST K. USAGI, especially (and mostly) on 3/4 sliders I try to realize drum cover by using hitsound. but i couldn't use drum hitsound on middle of slider for realizing drum cover. I used many slidertick hitsounds on Easy and Normal Diff. but In Hard, Insane and Extra Diff, It doesn't have necessity that Adding lots of slidertick hitsound on slider. because In Easy and Normal Diff, there are lots of slider, but In other diff(Hard,Insane,Extra..), they have lots of circle note than slider. so I used slidertick hitsounds on necessary part. besides, I naturally used it harmoniously.

Guideline wrote:
Slider tick hitsounds are discouraged. If you want to use them, then make sure that their volume is balanced (i.e. notably quieter than regular hitsounds). A very loud slider tick, especially when only used once or twice, would be extremely jarring.
Take 01:05:933 (5,1,2) - in Extra as an example. Their lengths are the same, so players would expect them sharing the same rhythm at the first time. But they are not, which is even acceptable because due to the slidertick on 01:06:252 (1) - , this pattern could be somewhat readable. However, players will hear a loud clap hitsound on the slidertick of 01:06:252 (1) - , which is extremely confusing. It could mislead players that they've hit a 1/2 slider, which lead to a bad gameplay experience.

Even if such patterns may be considered readable and playable, switching track in such pattern is still confusing. Obviously you are trying to follow the drum at the red tick (01:06:412 - ), but still the slidertail of 3/4 slider is snapped to the fade-out of vocal. Such variation of music track in such a short period of time could be extremely distracting tbh.

What's worse, your map is lack of consistency on such patterns. I know 01:06:252 (1) - slidertick on this slider is trying to follow the second whistle on this music section. But among all other similar music sections, patterns are not similar in rhythm. ( 00:56:040 (7,1,2) - ) In this case, slidertick hitsounds on 3/4 sliders seems really disorganized.
And, I don't like 3/4 sliders sharing the same length as 1/2 sliders, please reconsider such patterns in Extra. You may slightly extend the length of 3/4 sliders to make such patterns more clearly. (COOLEST doesn't have this problem I guess)

ah, I understand your opinion. cause of using slidertick hitsound on 3/4 slider, some player may have problem to reading. so i changed pattern about 3/4 sliders like this but i didn't change 3/4 slider to 1/2 slider.

After finishing all, you may call me back.

Thanks!

F D Flourite

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F D Flourite 2017-02-02T15:15:51+00:00

Rechecked. fixed some 3/4 rhythm in Extra and a slider in Normal. And remove useless characters in tag

To following modders:
there are still 3/4 sliders with slidertick hitsounds in COOLEST K. USAGI diff, but these sliders are mostly readable and playable. Even in rhythm, they could be understood as following both tracks and keeping hitsound consistency imo. So I decide to let it pass.

Rebubble~

-NanoRIPE-

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-NanoRIPE- 2017-02-06T10:37:57+00:00

omg hype!

Luel Roseline

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Luel Roseline 2017-02-07T11:09:57+00:00

비기: 하트랭크
대기탑니다

Sonnyc

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Sonnyc 2017-02-09T10:20:40+00:00

General.
프리뷰 지점이 애매하게 빨라보이는데, 00:52:848 등 조금 더 늦게 설정해주시는 것은 어떤가요?

Easy.
00:04:976 (1) - 해당 난이도 유일의 1/2 슬라이더인데, 이지 난이도에서 이러한 짧은 슬라이더의 사용은 초보자들에게 권장되지 않습니다. 박자를 00:05:135 에서 시작하고 00:05:933 에서 끝나는 긴 슬라이더로 바꾸는 등 박자에 변화를 주어보세요.
00:10:401 (3,4) - (2,3)에 3/2 박자 텀 이후에 1/1 노트 2개를 두기에는 조금 이지에 비해 까다로운 면이 커보이네요. (3,4)를 슬라이더로 바꾸는건 어떨까요?
00:39:763 (1,2,3) - 3 연속 서클에 조금 부담이 느껴지는데 조금 쉬운 박자로 바꿔보실 수 있나요?

Normal.
00:32:742 (3,1) - 여기만 스택 내에 콤보가 섞여있는데, 하나의 색으로 통일 가능하신가요?
01:23:806 (1,2) - 음악상 (2)부터 콤보 가는게 악기랑 맞아보이네요.

Extra.
00:11:359 ~ 00:21:492 - 이 구간은 음악의 초반에서 아직 그 강도(?)가 약한 지점으로 보는데 혹은 적어도 뒤의 강렬한 음악 구간들보다는 약해보이는데 사용하신 점프라던가 간격 설정이 거의 키아이 점프급이네요 ㅇㅅㅇ 이 구간은 훨씬 강도 약한 점프들로 이루어지는게 음악과 맞지 않을까 싶네요.
00:38:806 (1) - 인게임으로 보시면 우선 틱이 안보이는 속도이고, 모양도 이전의 00:38:167 (5,6)와 동일해서 감속이 이루어진 3/4라는게 잘 드러나지 않네요. 속도를 조금 높혀서 틱이 보이게 하시고, 모양도 조금 다르게 쓰면 좋을듯 하네요.
00:41:359 (1,2) - 슬라 속도가 여기서 상당히 폭주하고 있는데, 음악에 비해 이정도 속도의 1/4 슬라이더를 사용하는 것은 조금 심히 과장된 느낌이네요.
01:21:572 (1,2,3,4) - 이 구간은 슬라 속도가 약해진 음악에 비해 다소 빨라보이네요.

Usagi.
00:07:130 (4,5) - 00:09:205 (5,6) - 잘 이해가 가지 않는 간격 불일치네요. 시각적인 효과를 누리는 것도 아니고, 음악과 잘 맞는 느낌도 아니라서 이전 연타와 일정한 간격을 사용해주세요.
00:21:412 - 00:34:577 - 음악상 박자가 존재하는데 3/4 슬라이더로 처리하는 것은 음악 표현에 적합하지 않아보이네요.
00:26:359 (7,1,2,1,1,2,1,2) - 3/4 슬라 이후 1/2 슬라들이 등장하고 있는데, 매번 사용된 슬라 모양이나 간격이나 다 일정하지 않아서 통일된 느낌은 들지 않네요.
00:35:295 (5,6) - 간격이 갑자기 감소했는데 음악상 큰 변동이 없어서 어색해보이네요.
전반적으로, 아직 랭크되기에는 충분하지 못한 퀄리티로 보이네요. 개별적인 흐름과 모양 자체는 괜찮아 보입니다만 그것들이 서로 기술적으로 호응해서 완결된 패턴을 형성하는데에 있어서 부족함이 많이 느껴졌습니다. 하드 정도 난이도에서 이러한 퀄리티라면 어찌어찌 넘어가드릴만 하겠지만 플레이어층의 관심이 많이 쏠리는 최상위 난이도라는 특성을 감안할 떄, 제 입장에서는 더 높은 퀄리티가 필요해보이네요.

현 최상위 난이도를 제거하시면 리버블 달아드릴 의향이 있습니다만, 그런게 아니라면 현 비트맵 디자인에 동의할 수 있는 BN 2명을 추가적으로 찾으셔야 할 것 같네요. 나머지 난이도들은 좋게 봤습니다.

Popping over questionable quality of the highest diff.

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GugUCorn

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GugUCorn 2017-02-10T08:56:40+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
General.
프리뷰 지점이 애매하게 빨라보이는데, 00:52:848 등 조금 더 늦게 설정해주시는 것은 어떤가요? fixed

Easy.
00:04:976 (1) - 해당 난이도 유일의 1/2 슬라이더인데, 이지 난이도에서 이러한 짧은 슬라이더의 사용은 초보자들에게 권장되지 않습니다. 박자를 00:05:135 에서 시작하고 00:05:933 에서 끝나는 긴 슬라이더로 바꾸는 등 박자에 변화를 주어보세요. fixed
00:10:401 (3,4) - (2,3)에 3/2 박자 텀 이후에 1/1 노트 2개를 두기에는 조금 이지에 비해 까다로운 면이 커보이네요. (3,4)를 슬라이더로 바꾸는건 어떨까요? fixed
00:39:763 (1,2,3) - 3 연속 서클에 조금 부담이 느껴지는데 조금 쉬운 박자로 바꿔보실 수 있나요? 슬라이드하고 서클노트로 바꿔봤어요

Normal.
00:32:742 (3,1) - 여기만 스택 내에 콤보가 섞여있는데, 하나의 색으로 통일 가능하신가요? fixed
01:23:806 (1,2) - 음악상 (2)부터 콤보 가는게 악기랑 맞아보이네요. fixed

Extra.
00:11:359 ~ 00:21:492 - 이 구간은 음악의 초반에서 아직 그 강도(?)가 약한 지점으로 보는데 혹은 적어도 뒤의 강렬한 음악 구간들보다는 약해보이는데 사용하신 점프라던가 간격 설정이 거의 키아이 점프급이네요 ㅇㅅㅇ 이 구간은 훨씬 강도 약한 점프들로 이루어지는게 음악과 맞지 않을까 싶네요. 음..그래서 나름 고쳐봤는데..나아졌을련지 모르겠네요..
00:38:806 (1) - 인게임으로 보시면 우선 틱이 안보이는 속도이고, 모양도 이전의 00:38:167 (5,6)와 동일해서 감속이 이루어진 3/4라는게 잘 드러나지 않네요. 속도를 조금 높혀서 틱이 보이게 하시고, 모양도 조금 다르게 쓰면 좋을듯 하네요. 일부러 변속시킨걸 빠르게하면 차이가 없어져버려서 빠르게보다 느리게 0.5x로 바꿔봤습니다. 플레이해봤을때도 큰 문제는 잘 안 보이던데..
00:41:359 (1,2) - 슬라 속도가 여기서 상당히 폭주하고 있는데, 음악에 비해 이정도 속도의 1/4 슬라이더를 사용하는 것은 조금 심히 과장된 느낌이네요. https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1055880 이 난이도를 보고 만들긴했는데, 문제되면 고칠까요?
01:21:572 (1,2,3,4) - 이 구간은 슬라 속도가 약해진 음악에 비해 다소 빨라보이네요. 변속으로 줄여봤습니다

전반적으로, 아직 랭크되기에는 충분하지 못한 퀄리티로 보이네요. 개별적인 흐름과 모양 자체는 괜찮아 보입니다만 그것들이 서로 기술적으로 호응해서 완결된 패턴을 형성하는데에 있어서 부족함이 많이 느껴졌습니다. 하드 정도 난이도에서 이러한 퀄리티라면 어찌어찌 넘어가드릴만 하겠지만 플레이어층의 관심이 많이 쏠리는 최상위 난이도라는 특성을 감안할 떄, 제 입장에서는 더 높은 퀄리티가 필요해보이네요.

현 최상위 난이도를 제거하시면 리버블 달아드릴 의향이 있습니다만, 그런게 아니라면 현 비트맵 디자인에 동의할 수 있는 BN 2명을 추가적으로 찾으셔야 할 것 같네요. 나머지 난이도들은 좋게 봤습니다.

Popping over questionable quality of the highest diff.

모딩감사합니다!

그리고 쿠로 우사기 겟난 지웠습니다

Sonnyc

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Sonnyc 2017-02-10T09:37:05+00:00

Nominated.

Left

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Left 2017-02-14T10:30:14+00:00

흠... 몬스트라타나 플로라이트 리버블은 언제...

F D Flourite

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F D Flourite 2017-02-21T08:40:40+00:00

RIP Usagi diff~

Rechecked. Fixed some sliders in Extra.

Have fun~

EDIT: in case anyone need metadata information: http://www.kingrecords.co.jp/cs/g/gKICM-1671/ or http://www.tbs.co.jp/anime/sakamoto/cd/

Saileach

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Saileach 2017-02-21T09:00:45+00:00

Ive been following this set for months, i love it, CONGRATS!

Luel Roseline

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Luel Roseline 2017-02-21T09:05:34+00:00

왁!! 비기:첫랭의 축복이!

Bursthammy

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Bursthammy 2017-02-21T09:46:07+00:00

cool

COOLER

COOLEST

Shiny-

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Shiny- 2017-02-21T21:37:38+00:00

ooo finally first std coolest, congrats!

Mint

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Mint 2017-02-21T22:13:57+00:00

gratz!

Kyouren

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Kyouren 2017-02-22T05:33:41+00:00

Gratzz! :3

Yuii-

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Yuii- 2017-02-22T07:50:00+00:00

Greetings, even yet and once more!

You know, I was looking through the map and I must admit, you have a very interesting mapping style. I do actually like some of the flows you managed to create here and there, it was really solid. Although there are some things I will like to discuss with you, if you do not mind. These are very specific things that I believe are worth fixing in the highest difficulty.

00:04:976 (1,2,3,4) - To begin with, I don't think these share the same intensity musically speaking, yet you are mapping them like if they were. There it also seems to be a rhythm mistake with the way notes are being considered as 'clickable', for instance 00:05:774 - this isn't being clickable while it's a very noticeable sound and 00:05:295 - is a circle as of right now. This is absolutely weird because this rhythm isn't following what it really should. http://i.imgur.com/rJzMHQV.jpg something like this would work much better because you have two guitar sounds (first one from 00:05:135 - to 00:05:295 - ; the second one from 00:05:455 - to 00:05:614 - ) and then three drum hits at 00:05:774 - , 00:05:933 - and 00:06:093 - .
00:08:487 (1,2,3) - Spacing these out would be way easier to hit than your current pattern. Players have to speed up on 00:08:167 (1,2,3,4,1) - and then decrease their spead on 00:08:487 (1,2,3) - even though the music actually is getting more intense. For example, http://i.imgur.com/9FUZZJv.jpg could work a bit better without creating any awkward angles from (3) to 00:08:965 (1) - . This way you are keeping the spacing in a more balanced way.
00:12:795 (2,3) - I am really not getting what these are following exactly. 00:12:955 - that is being mapped as the slidertail, yet it's being hitsounded with a finish, that means you want to emphasise the hit. Not only that, but vocals also seem not to match with your current rhythm. I believe Ctrl+G'ing these objects would actually improve a lot in terms of rhythm. Same would apply to 00:15:348 (2,3) - , by the way; vocals start on 00:15:508 - and not before + you also have the finish hitsound in there!
00:17:582 (6) - This slider stands out in the map way too much, its shape is something that it only is seen once in the entire difficulty, something more 'seen' (or, "generic") would have fit way more.
00:19:018 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - The patterning here is interesting visually speaking, but it fails its job at following the music properly. Not to mention the fact that you are randomly swapping from vocal mapping to drum mapping, which I am leaving aside. The major issue here is how you grouped this pattern into a group of 3 objects each... why? There is no real reason for you to do such pattern change in the map because the music simply does not support it at all. Also, let me mention that the music doesn't get any intense. Snapping these groups isn't an easy task, you have to do slight movements on each and then accelerate and decrease the speed again from pattern to pattern, it's hard to comprehend how it truly works without a lot of mapping experience. Let me suggest you a different rhythm that feels like the music is being different but it's not so reliable on clickable objects.
00:23:088 (2) - I cannot hear anything, unfortunately. This is definitely overmapped.
00:21:572 (1,2) - A slider would fit vocals the most. Are you following the guitar, right? If anything, I would increase the spacing a little bit more, you are underemphasising it a bit if that's the case.
00:26:997 (3,1) - and 00:27:955 (4,5) - after patterns like 00:24:763 (3,1) - and 00:26:359 (1,2) - it's most likely for players to believe this is an actual 3/4 pattern rathen than a 1/2 jump. Leaving the visual aspect aside, musically speaking, you are not giving a proper emphasis to the notes that should be truly emphasised. Why is 00:26:997 (3,1) - getting less spacing than 00:27:316 (1,2) - ? The same applies to 00:27:955 (4,5,6) - ; but in this case, the vocals reach its peak, at 00:28:274 - so spacing-wise there seems to be a mistake.
00:29:231 (1,3,4,5) - Could have made a blanket pattern here. Seems like you ran out of space or something, though, because the amount of spacing given to 00:29:550 (2,3) - is not enough compared to everything else.
00:31:784 - to 00:39:125 - Now this is the part where things start getting a little bit out of hands. This is supposed to be the calmest section in the entire song, yet it doesn't look as calm as people may think. It is equally spaced as everything else on the map, yet both vocals and instruments are pretty low here. You will most likely want to focus on a more structured-type of section where the spacing gets considerably lower as well as the amount of objects for the sake of the song. A lower slider velocity can help a lot too. You have patterns such as 00:33:380 (1,2,3,4) - which are actually cool, with a relatively low spacing and a clear rhythm, but that's just it... everything else is as intense as the rest of the map. Try following the vocals only here, with a slower SV and more space-focused.
00:36:252 (1,2,3) - Also, please, don't spam finish hitsounds on such a section, it is quite of annoying for the players.
00:43:274 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Once again, the patterning isn't appropriate for the music. 00:43:593 (2) - is losing too much emphasis while it seems 00:43:912 (1) - is super important, when it actually is not. Mind trying a rhythm like http://i.imgur.com/1q7LTxy.jpg for example?
00:49:258 - Volume is too loud, I would decrease it to make it sound like 00:09:444 - .
00:52:050 - Please, do remove the finish from the tail, it is too spammy.
As for the Kiai, I am only going to mention one simple thing because it is the same amount of mistakes I mentioned above over and over again. For example, regarding emphasis 01:06:252 (1,2,3) - why is (2) getting such protagonism while (3) is so low? You properly made it 01:06:891 (1,2,3) - and on a lot of other spots, but you failed there
01:11:678 (1) - This is something you really want to avoid. Not only because it's extremely inconsistent with the mapset, but the fact that you are placing an SV change for only one slider in such an intense part ruins the momentum as a whole. If you are going to keep this, you should introduce it in other sections on the Kiai and not only there because it seems like it was a mistake.

[]

I feel like you could work more on the mapset, or in the highest difficulty, at least. You have some cool patterns, visually speaking, but you fail when it comes to properly follow the music, highlighting what truly is important as well as what instrument to follow. You sure can make improvements here, I know you can... it will not be easy and it will probably take you some time, but trust me when I say you will thank yourself later for spending more time in the Editor.

As a personal advice, you should also work around streamshapes. Some just look kind of awkward, it would be nice if you could get some help with these as they might not be easy to make at the beginning.

Please, do reply to this mod properly. I will make sure to keep track of the map in case you need further assistance as well as giving other BNs the 'okay' to push this map forward again.

Best of lucks with further processing~

Cellina

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Cellina 2017-02-22T09:41:20+00:00

축하한다고 리플달러 왔더니 엄청 긴 양의 모딩을 보았습니다

Left

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Left 2017-02-22T10:30:21+00:00

바보바보바보

GugUCorn

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GugUCorn 2017-02-22T10:58:19+00:00

Yuii- wrote:
Greetings, even yet and once more!

You know, I was looking through the map and I must admit, you have a very interesting mapping style. I do actually like some of the flows you managed to create here and there, it was really solid. Although there are some things I will like to discuss with you, if you do not mind. These are very specific things that I believe are worth fixing in the highest difficulty.

00:04:976 (1,2,3,4) - To begin with, I don't think these share the same intensity musically speaking, yet you are mapping them like if they were. There it also seems to be a rhythm mistake with the way notes are being considered as 'clickable', for instance 00:05:774 - this isn't being clickable while it's a very noticeable sound and 00:05:295 - is a circle as of right now. This is absolutely weird because this rhythm isn't following what it really should. http://i.imgur.com/rJzMHQV.jpg something like this would work much better because you have two guitar sounds (first one from 00:05:135 - to 00:05:295 - ; the second one from 00:05:455 - to 00:05:614 - ) and then three drum hits at 00:05:774 - , 00:05:933 - and 00:06:093 - .
oh, rhythm you said is not bad. But In my case, Initially, it was appropriate to make it seem like this. and there are two kick sound on 00:05:135, 00:05:455. I probably expressed it by using 1/2 slider. and for emphasizing drum snap sound, I used jump pattern by using circle notes like 00:05:933 (5,6,1). suggested your opinion's rhythm is good but imo my rhythm is not bad maybe
00:08:487 (1,2,3) - Spacing these out would be way easier to hit than your current pattern. Players have to speed up on 00:08:167 (1,2,3,4,1) - and then decrease their spead on 00:08:487 (1,2,3) - even though the music actually is getting more intense. For example, http://i.imgur.com/9FUZZJv.jpg could work a bit better without creating any awkward angles from (3) to 00:08:965 (1) - . This way you are keeping the spacing in a more balanced way.
certainly..not bad. I was little hard to mapping this part..
00:12:795 (2,3) - I am really not getting what these are following exactly. 00:12:955 - that is being mapped as the slidertail, yet it's being hitsounded with a finish, that means you want to emphasise the hit. Not only that, but vocals also seem not to match with your current rhythm. I believe Ctrl+G'ing these objects would actually improve a lot in terms of rhythm. Same would apply to 00:15:348 (2,3) - , by the way; vocals start on 00:15:508 - and not before + you also have the finish hitsound in there! disagreed, first of all, 00:12:795 (2) is straight from 00:12:476 (1) to (2). just no reason. just i want to use that pattern. and reason about using finish is expressed by using drum hit-hat sound.
00:17:582 (6) - This slider stands out in the map way too much, its shape is something that it only is seen once in the entire difficulty, something more 'seen' (or, "generic") would have fit way more.
that's just my mapping style..
00:19:018 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - The patterning here is interesting visually speaking, but it fails its job at following the music properly. Not to mention the fact that you are randomly swapping from vocal mapping to drum mapping, which I am leaving aside. The major issue here is how you grouped this pattern into a group of 3 objects each... why? There is no real reason for you to do such pattern change in the map because the music simply does not support it at all. Also, let me mention that the music doesn't get any intense. Snapping these groups isn't an easy task, you have to do slight movements on each and then accelerate and decrease the speed again from pattern to pattern, it's hard to comprehend how it truly works without a lot of mapping experience. Let me suggest you a different rhythm that feels like the music is being different but it's not so reliable on clickable objects.
maybe you can heard piano sound. I mapped this part by piano sound. it is following not vocal but music. and I said this word on above, and i used my mapping style by grouping.
00:23:088 (2) - I cannot hear anything, unfortunately. This is definitely overmapped. maybe i followed vocal sound.
00:21:572 (1,2) - A slider would fit vocals the most. Are you following the guitar, right? If anything, I would increase the spacing a little bit more, you are underemphasising it a bit if that's the case. yes, i followed the guitar. This part is start of next vocal and imo it doesnt't need to add more spacing.
00:26:997 (3,1) - and 00:27:955 (4,5) - after patterns like 00:24:763 (3,1) - and 00:26:359 (1,2) - it's most likely for players to believe this is an actual 3/4 pattern rathen than a 1/2 jump. Leaving the visual aspect aside, musically speaking, you are not giving a proper emphasis to the notes that should be truly emphasised. Why is 00:26:997 (3,1) - getting less spacing than 00:27:316 (1,2) - ? The same applies to 00:27:955 (4,5,6) - ; but in this case, the vocals reach its peak, at 00:28:274 - so spacing-wise there seems to be a mistake.
About 00:24:763 (3) , It lead to not completed moving but stopped on middle moving. and i lead distinction from 3/4 slider and 1/2 slider. And about 00:26:997 (3,3) , that have big tone. so I used jump pattern.
00:29:231 (1,3,4,5) - Could have made a blanket pattern here. Seems like you ran out of space or something, though, because the amount of spacing given to 00:29:550 (2,3) - is not enough compared to everything else. there is jump pattern next. so it doesn't need to give more spacing. well..anyway, if i give blanket pattern to it, it doesn't have difference because of difference of distance is just 0.3x(1.08x ->1.35x).
00:31:784 - to 00:39:125 - Now this is the part where things start getting a little bit out of hands. This is supposed to be the calmest section in the entire song, yet it doesn't look as calm as people may think. It is equally spaced as everything else on the map, yet both vocals and instruments are pretty low here. You will most likely want to focus on a more structured-type of section where the spacing gets considerably lower as well as the amount of objects for the sake of the song. A lower slider velocity can help a lot too. You have patterns such as 00:33:380 (1,2,3,4) - which are actually cool, with a relatively low spacing and a clear rhythm, but that's just it... everything else is as intense as the rest of the map. Try following the vocals only here, with a slower SV and more space-focused.
I tried to make calm down this part by using long slider. but In extra diff, I can't calm down this part anymore. just i'm used long slider and simple pattern.
00:36:252 (1,2,3) - Also, please, don't spam finish hitsounds on such a section, it is quite of annoying for the players. no, it really need. as you know, there are not only cymbals sound but also i made it like drum cover by using hitsound.
00:43:274 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Once again, the patterning isn't appropriate for the music. 00:43:593 (2) - is losing too much emphasis while it seems 00:43:912 (1) - is super important, when it actually is not. Mind trying a rhythm like http://i.imgur.com/1q7LTxy.jpg for example? I almost mapped by drum sound of music. and it's just my mapping style
00:49:258 - Volume is too loud, I would decrease it to make it sound like 00:09:444 - . there are snap sound on music. 00:09:444 is use of tom.
00:52:050 - Please, do remove the finish from the tail, it is too spammy. same. there are cymbals sound
As for the Kiai, I am only going to mention one simple thing because it is the same amount of mistakes I mentioned above over and over again. For example, regarding emphasis 01:06:252 (1,2,3) - why is (2) getting such protagonism while (3) is so low? You properly made it 01:06:891 (1,2,3) - and on a lot of other spots, but you failed there
i don't understand meaning of 'protagonism'. imo It is not emphasis by using long jump. By using low spacing after long spacing, it maybe gives another emphasis.

01:11:678 (1) - This is something you really want to avoid. Not only because it's extremely inconsistent with the mapset, but the fact that you are placing an SV change for only one slider in such an intense part ruins the momentum as a whole. If you are going to keep this, you should introduce it in other sections on the Kiai and not only there because it seems like it was a mistake.
that reason is difference of tone. so i used SV changing and for revealing 3/4 slider, i used hook slider.
[]

I feel like you could work more on the mapset, or in the highest difficulty, at least. You have some cool patterns, visually speaking, but you fail when it comes to properly follow the music, highlighting what truly is important as well as what instrument to follow. You sure can make improvements here, I know you can... it will not be easy and it will probably take you some time, but trust me when I say you will thank yourself later for spending more time in the Editor.

As a personal advice, you should also work around streamshapes. Some just look kind of awkward, it would be nice if you could get some help with these as they might not be easy to make at the beginning.

Please, do reply to this mod properly. I will make sure to keep track of the map in case you need further assistance as well as giving other BNs the 'okay' to push this map forward again.

Best of lucks with further processing~

first of all, i commented my opinion as using by poor english skill. I don't know you can understand my word.
anyway..thanks for looking my poor diff..

Enon

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Enon 2017-02-22T11:48:49+00:00

Yuii 바보

HabiHolic

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HabiHolic 2017-02-22T13:33:20+00:00

ㅊㅋ합니다!

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2017-02-22T22:28:53+00:00

That's not "cool"

As far as I can tell, that's just a random pseudo insult you could avoid (or at least explain why Yuii is being a stupid here).
This goes for Enon too <.<

____________________________

Mind if I try explaining some things too?

Extra

00:04:976 (1,2,3,4) - Here you lack what I call "contrast".
Contrast is simply making something stand out more by using an opposite. In this case, you have a lot of 1/2 beats which completely cover up the nice 1/1 rhythm you have on drums.
Here's a suggestion... but leaving 00:05:295 - this empty you create contrast with the other beats, so the player will focus more on those (and this is good since those are far more important beats in the song)
00:09:923 (1) - same concept here: 00:10:002 - this beat just makes everything the same, but 00:10:082 - should be emphasized more. Example
00:10:721 (1,1) - this spacing is really short. I mention this now because I know what's ahead: you keep changing the spacing for your 1/4 and 1/2 snaps a lot, which then becomes confusing (sometimes you have large 1/4 after sliders, while some other times you have really short 1/2 which are really similar to 1/4). Maybe try this? It's just to make the jump larger and not make it to be confused with a 1/4 snap later on.
00:19:657 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - you ignore your own mapping style here, since you were mapping vocals just before (00:11:040 (1,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1) - ) and the way you switch to the background instruments is really random.
You should try to change instruments when your current instrument matches the rhythm of the other instrument.
As it is now 00:19:497 - this one is on vocals and would need a big spacing as you did for 00:15:827 (1,2) - , while from 00:19:657 - you switch to drums.
As you can see, the vocal starts its rhythm on the red tick while the drum starts on the white tick. This inconsistency is what makes this switch so bad imo, so you should still stick to vocals.
I get the feeling that triplets like 00:22:449 - 00:23:726 - are coming a bit out of nowhere, since again vocals don't really help to follow that, but I guess we can consider it as a minor thing
Take 00:25:242 (2,3) - for a moment, and compare the visual spacing of this one with 00:24:763 (3,1) - or with 00:23:806 (4,1) - . I'm obviously not asking for a perfect calculation of spacing between objects, but this makes it really awkward: you put more spacing between 1/4 and less spacing between 1/2. That's not cool (and doesn't make that much sense either).
Unfortunately I can't make an example here, since you'd need to move a lot of stuff to keep a good flow, but I hope you get my point
00:26:359 (1,2,3,1) - I'm so sad... vocals in this song are like... Merilin Monroe acting in a film, they are really important and beautiful to follow, yet you decide to ignore them.
I mean, this might be personal rhythm choice, but 00:26:997 (3,1) - should have a similar rhythm to 00:26:359 (1,2) - imo, since you hear how the vocals play, right?
00:27:635 (3,4,5,6,7) - same could be applied for these I suppose, although it is a bit different
00:33:699 (3,4) - this makes up for what I call "song expression".
Idk if we hear the same, but 3 and 4 have really different pitches. In particular 4 has a higher pitch which would make me think that you should put more spacing, like this or something similar, idk. Structure would need some improvements too
00:33:699 (3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - btw, for this whole part you seem to ignore the song again, since you switched to drums or whatever instrument that is, while vocals are still strong and carry the main melody.
00:38:806 (1) - I honestly have no idea why you used such a slow SV out of nowhere. Isn't this beat identical to 00:38:167 (5,6) - ?
I can understand there is a long vocal, but in that case why not a 1/1 slider?
00:43:593 (2,3,1,2,3) - again, you were following vocals until now and you suddenly decide not to anymore. That is a bad way to switch to background instruments, zzz. Just a suggestion, but you can do much more
00:54:604 (4,5,1) - again one of those triplets that sort of ruin the flow. Just 2 circles would help keep the energy from the kiai better , trust me
in kiai time I don't have much I can point out in specific, but I can look more at structure and tell you that you need quite some work on it.
What I mean is "why is each object of your patterns in the place you put them?"
For example, take 01:03:699 (1,2,3,4) - , what is the meaning of this pattern? Does it follow a concept in specific I missed? Do you formed a sort of geometrical figure I can't see?
It's a matter of using similar concepts for all your patterns, and in this case, it seems like you don't have references to other patterns.
If you link me one pattern which is similar to this one we could understand each other better probably.
01:06:252 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - same happens here: these triangular jumps seem a bit random to me.
Since both combos are a similar rhythm, shouldn't you use a more similar way to represent them and not just... rotating the whole thing and changing the jumps based on... idk on what?
01:11:359 (3,1,1,2) - I mentioned this identical thing before already: 01:11:359 (3,1) - and 01:11:997 (1,2) - should be using a similar pattern due to their similar rhythm in the song
01:16:465 (1,2,1,1,2,1) - so many NCs out of nowhere D:
01:21:572 (1,2,3,4) - talking about structure again: you could have used a concept you used before and re-worked it for this part, instead you just went ahead and used random jumps, convinced that the player will read them just because it is an Extra :/
That's not how it works, you should give them a meaning and by meaning I mean you should take example from your other patterns and do similar concepts.
Unfortunately I can't give you an example, since there are too many. It's up to you to decide the meaning here.
01:23:327 (4,5,6,1) - I testplayed this and it is really awkward: you should use just one circle instead. 01:23:327 (4,5) - 1/1 slider works better
01:26:199 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I can agree that you have a downbeat on 3, but in gameplay I don't see the timeline, I can't tell where the downbeat is exactly. That's why this pattern doesn't look so great, because when I play it I just see a random curve and some random spacing increase.
Your other stream parts where more constant, like 01:20:614 (2,3,4,5,6) - 01:12:635 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - (in this case you used a NC for example, which is cool) 00:58:274 (6,7,8,9,1) - and so on
I find AR9.5 to be a bit too much of a spike in difficulty considering the map is just 5.4* and that the Insane is AR9.
How about AR9.2/9.3 ? (I'd honestly keep it at 9, but oh well..)

________________

As Yuii- said, I believe this mapset has still room for improvement, above all in the structure's depart.
I could bring up some more examples regarding structure, but in the end it is just a matter of asking yourself "why is this object here" and trying to reply to that. If you can reply to that your structure is probably good, although I believe you wouldn't be able to bring up that many reasons as to why 00:12:476 (1,2,3,4,5) - 00:33:380 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5) - (and others) are like that.

Good luck and let me know if you need additional details of what I tried explaining.

Natsu

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Natsu 2017-02-22T22:39:14+00:00

바보 mmm is more like silly, btw yui and enon are friends (i think) so isn't an insult

btw why kuro's diff got removed

Seijiro

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Seijiro 2017-02-23T00:38:09+00:00

oh, my bad then (or rather, #blameGoogleTranslate)

Left

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Left 2017-02-23T02:36:51+00:00

and why u think it's to yuii... i'm friend with Cellina

pishifat

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pishifat 2017-02-23T02:40:39+00:00

since there's a good amount of discussion going on, ill take this out of qualified for now. it would be good to think over sergio's mod and maybe reconsider some of what yuii talked about as well, especially the intensity difference thing at 00:31:784 -

Enon

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Enon 2017-02-23T03:02:41+00:00

well, 바보 was just like "baka" in japanese?

it could be a bad word though, it was just for show friendliness ;_;

if you feel bad i would apologize

Sonnyc

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Sonnyc 2017-02-23T03:06:16+00:00

Enon 바보

Luel Roseline

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Luel Roseline 2017-02-23T03:43:29+00:00

야레야레
디퀼이라

GugUCorn

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GugUCorn 2017-02-23T05:18:30+00:00

@MrSergio : I fixed almost about your opinion.
@pishifat : I want to give kudosu to MrSergio..

and here is changelog. I applied not only MrSergio's mod but also Yuii's mod.

-Changlog-
1. fix and add some note on first part ( 00:00:508 ~ 00:04:976)
2. make more spacing on 00:08:487 (1,2,3) it's about yuii's opinion
3. removed 1/4 slider and change to 1/2 slider

00:09:763 (5,1)
4. changing of location of 00:11:040 (1)
5. changed pattern as fitting to vocal (00:19:018 ~ 00:21:891)
6. I can't remove triplets. but i fixed just little..

00:22:689 (1,2,3)
7. but i removed this triplets.

00:23:487 (1,2,3,1)
8. changing of patttern (00:23:487 ~ 00:25:880, 00:26:678 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5), 00:34:338 ~ 00:36:093, 00:38:487 ~ 00:39:444, 00:43:593 ~ 00:44:391
9. moved this slider 00:34:018 (4)
10. removed triplets on 00:54:524
11. changing of pattern on 01:06:252 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,4)
12. moved this slider 01:12:316 (2)
13. Ctrl+G 01:21:891 (2), it is my best..
14. change this slider 01:23:327 (4) to 1/2 slider
15. changing of pattern on 01:25:721 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1)

and about NC on 01:16:465 (1,2,1,1,2,1,1), because of SV changing, I added NC. if i group this part like 1,2,3 and 1,2,3, is it make confuse?

HabiHolic

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HabiHolic 2017-02-23T12:55:53+00:00

일단 언랭된김에... 저도 하나 엑스트라에서 문제를 하나 집어드리자면

01:11:678 (1) - 이거는 제가 무슨 의도이신지는 모르겠지만. 앞쪽에는 1/2 슬라이더로 동일화시키셨는데 유독 이곳에만 변속을 넣으시고 4/3 박자로 맞추셨는지 약간 의문점이 드는 부분이었습니다. 저는 통일시키는걸 권장드릴게요. 그렇게 큰 문제는 아니지만 BN 들이나 QAT 분들이 이 문제에 대해 지적한다면 고치셔야 될지도 모르겠습니다.

GugUCorn

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GugUCorn 2017-02-23T13:52:01+00:00

HabiHolic wrote:
일단 언랭된김에... 저도 하나 엑스트라에서 문제를 하나 집어드리자면

01:11:678 (1) - 이거는 제가 무슨 의도이신지는 모르겠지만. 앞쪽에는 1/2 슬라이더로 동일화시키셨는데 유독 이곳에만 변속을 넣으시고 4/3 박자로 맞추셨는지 약간 의문점이 드는 부분이었습니다. 저는 통일시키는걸 권장드릴게요. 그렇게 큰 문제는 아니지만 BN 들이나 QAT 분들이 이 문제에 대해 지적한다면 고치셔야 될지도 모르겠습니다.

그정도는 괜찮다고 생각합니다. 참고로 Mrsergio님이 하신말에서 01:11:359 (3,1) - and 01:11:997 (1,2) - should be using a similar pattern due to their similar rhythm in the song에서 비슷한 패턴을 유지하라고 해서 2번 슬라이드를 아래쪽이 아닌 변속된 슬라이더 왼쪽에 뒀습니다. 변속은 그 다음 걸 강조 시키려고 쓴거고요. BN지적이 오면 고치겠습니다.

Venix

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Venix 2017-02-24T23:07:34+00:00

Hey~
I think I can help with polishing this map a bit more.

[General]

I think current timing is totally off. I prefer use -114 offset, because it sounds too better. Don't forget about resnapping objects after this change.

[Extra]

As first I think you can avoid some HP bar overlaps, which are very noticable in game, like 00:45:667 (7,8,1) - this. I know, at testplay it's small overlap, but some skins using larger hp bar and it looks weird on these ones.
Don't you think 00:03:699 (1,2) - this is a bit overmapped? You are used similar spacing 00:04:976 (1,2) - here, when it's reasonable, because rythm is much stronger and it emphasise it well, but 00:04:034 (2) - on this circle rythm is more light and it doesn't look very well. You should decrease it a bit here.
00:07:226 (5) - You should put NC here, because you putted it on every other beat like this.
00:10:337 (4,1) - Flow is a bit harsh here. You can make it more smoother by rotating 00:10:417 (1) - this slider by ~-40°. It should works better.
00:13:609 (5,1) - This is overspaced, rythm is very strong, but not like this.
00:24:779 (4,2) - This composition looks weird, because these slider shapes are not perfectly blanketed. You should fix it.
00:25:258 (2,3,4) - Usage of consisent spacing here looks very weird, because rythms are totally another. You should increase it between 00:25:737 (3,4) - these objects, because rythm here is kinda stronger.
00:31:481 (8,3) - I think these sliders are both too close to use overlap like this, because it doesn't look very well. I think you can try it. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7415941

Ok, that's all! I hope it can helps.

GugUCorn

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GugUCorn 2017-02-25T02:17:41+00:00

Venix wrote:
Hey~
I think I can help with polishing this map a bit more.

[General]
I think current timing is totally off. I prefer use -114 offset, because it sounds too better. Don't forget about resnapping objects after this change. ok, fixed
[Extra]
As first I think you can avoid some HP bar overlaps, which are very noticable in game, like 00:45:667 (7,8,1) - this. I know, at testplay it's small overlap, but some skins using larger hp bar and it looks weird on these ones. About this, first of all, I focused to player by using default skin. According to this Screenshot, Maybe it hasn't no big problem. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7417001 https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7417005
Don't you think 00:03:699 (1,2) - this is a bit overmapped? You are used similar spacing 00:04:976 (1,2) - here, when it's reasonable, because rythm is much stronger and it emphasise it well, but 00:04:034 (2) - on this circle rythm is more light and it doesn't look very well. You should decrease it a bit here. i don't think it's overmapping. it's just not only no big jump but also i don't use triplet pattern. if i use triplets, it'll be overmapped
00:07:226 (5) - You should put NC here, because you putted it on every other beat like this. that's just adding NC on spacing change..but that's not bad, fixed
00:10:337 (4,1) - Flow is a bit harsh here. You can make it more smoother by rotating 00:10:417 (1) - this slider by ~-40°. It should works better. fixed
00:13:609 (5,1) - This is overspaced, rythm is very strong, but not like this. nope
00:24:779 (4,2) - This composition looks weird, because these slider shapes are not perfectly blanketed. You should fix it. already good..anyway..fixed
00:25:258 (2,3,4) - Usage of consisent spacing here looks very weird, because rythms are totally another. You should increase it between 00:25:737 (3,4) - these objects, because rythm here is kinda stronger. no, not weird. In 00:24:779 (4), that's part of strong rhythm. however, In 00:25:258 (2,3,4), that's not strong rhythm.
00:31:481 (8,3) - I think these sliders are both too close to use overlap like this, because it doesn't look very well. I think you can try it. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/7415941 fixed[
Ok, that's all! I hope it can helps.

thx

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