LigerZero wrote:

in Tags added "Sentimental Skyscraper Aqua Trytone Comiket80 Sumijun すみじゅん ほたる Hotaru 法界の火 fires of hokkai stage 6 theme 感情の摩天楼 emotional skyscraper cosmic mind Touhou Seirensen Undefined Fantastic Object Byakuren Hijiri"

NO KUDOSU

1. add "kanjou" to the tags, it's the romaji of the theme's name (not to be confused with the song's name "kanshou")
2. i'd suggest using these combo colours, more consistent imo:
   

   [Colours]
   Combo1 : 0,85,0
   Combo2 : 91,32,164
   Combo3 : 146,13,5
   Combo4 : 193,169,30

1. 00:57:703 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this stream is REAAALLY long, and most importantly the same DS everywhere, even though the tension is building up, how about spicing it up with 1/4 sliders and gradually increasing the DS?
2. 01:11:473 (3,4,5) - you have quite a lot of momentum here and the stream here feels a bit awkward to play, how about doing something like this:
   
   SPOILER

   
3. other than that, not much really, the rhythm in general felt a bit weird but I guess it's because I played captin's map too much lol, and try to recheck the map's general aesthetics
   also im a bit rusty nowadays so i can't really play and judge if the jumps are good, but they look okay
   last thing the game is constantly crashing for whatever reason so i can't really check everything from the editor, just by playing

Alheak wrote:

ey m4m

[General]

1. add "kanjou" to the tags, it's the romaji of the theme's name (not to be confused with the song's name "kanshou") ait
2. i'd suggest using these combo colours, more consistent imo: thanks
   

   [Colours]
   Combo1 : 0,85,0
   Combo2 : 91,32,164
   Combo3 : 146,13,5
   Combo4 : 193,169,30

[mappu]

1. 00:57:703 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - this stream is REAAALLY long, and most importantly the same DS everywhere, even though the tension is building up, how about spicing it up with 1/4 sliders and gradually increasing the DS? fixed it to be better now
2. 01:11:473 (3,4,5) - you have quite a lot of momentum here and the stream here feels a bit awkward to play, how about doing something like this: that looks cool, added
   
   SPOILER

   
3. other than that, not much really, the rhythm in general felt a bit weird but I guess it's because I played captin's map too much lol, and try to recheck the map's general aesthetics
   also im a bit rusty nowadays so i can't really play and judge if the jumps are good, but they look okay
   last thing the game is constantly crashing for whatever reason so i can't really check everything from the editor, just by playing

here, good luck for the rest!

1. 00:26:555 (2) - Try sliderhead to x195y265 and stack the sliderend under 00:26:064 (1) - 's sliderend again, this looks better I think
2. 00:40:654 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This stream feels random and out of place since it follows a sound you have ignored for the biggest part of the spinner before!
3. 01:44:588 (3) - I don't really get what sound the shape of this slider follows
4. 02:15:080 (1,2) - Kinda misleading spacing cuz 02:09:178 (5,6) - etc
5. 02:55:408 (7,1) - It would look nice and clean if these pointed in the same direction
6. 02:58:687 (3) - Imo too thick, subjective I guess though, so I won't mention any more of these sliders in the future
7. 03:34:752 (2) - Try x268y88 and adjust 03:33:769 (1) - accordingly
8. 03:52:129 (1,2) - This can definetly look better I think, it's too cramped, specially for kiai time
9. 04:07:867 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Expected something more intense looking back at the previous section like this ;_;
10. 04:24:916 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Spacing on these could be clearer
11. 04:34:752 (4,5) - ^ , looks like oh baby a tripple
12. 04:43:277 (1,2,3,4) - Have the volume build up on these maybe?
13. 04:57:703 (1) - Too thick for sure :c
14. 05:02:621 (6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4) - Unclear spacing again

Zectro wrote:

Yo, m4m

[General]
Wave hitsounds with possible delay >5ms:
soft-hitclap.wav
soft-slidertick.wav
soft-hitclap3.wav not sure how to fix this tho D:

[Etheral]

1. 00:26:555 (2) - Try sliderhead to x195y265 and stack the sliderend under 00:26:064 (1) - 's sliderend again, this looks better I think it does, changed
2. 00:40:654 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This stream feels random and out of place since it follows a sound you have ignored for the biggest part of the spinner before! fixed again, but im not sure about this, because I think the spinner is too long but Ill just see D:
3. 01:44:588 (3) - I don't really get what sound the shape of this slider follows me neither now that Im thinking about it, fixed as well
4. 02:15:080 (1,2) - Kinda misleading spacing cuz 02:09:178 (5,6) - etc Im kind of building up I think, or Im not sure what you meant but I found another wrong thing so xD
5. 02:55:408 (7,1) - It would look nice and clean if these pointed in the same direction oh yeah true, fixed that
6. 02:58:687 (3) - Imo too thick, subjective I guess though, so I won't mention any more of these sliders in the future I think the same, made it less thick
7. 03:34:752 (2) - Try x268y88 and adjust 03:33:769 (1) - accordingly Fixed it to be something else
8. 03:52:129 (1,2) - This can definetly look better I think, it's too cramped, specially for kiai time its not kiai time, but I know what you mean, fixed
9. 04:07:867 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Expected something more intense looking back at the previous section like this ;_; Its because the section after this isnt as intense, so I made it less intense
10. 04:24:916 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Spacing on these could be clearer hmmm, sure
11. 04:34:752 (4,5) - ^ , looks like oh baby a tripple not this one D: I want it to be a bit hard to read
12. 04:43:277 (1,2,3,4) - Have the volume build up on these maybe? sure, good idea
13. 04:57:703 (1) - Too thick for sure :c this is fine imo
14. 05:02:621 (6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4) - Unclear spacing againThis too

Great map! Good luck

Stjpa wrote:

Somehow I know your name but I have no idea from where... I have no idea either o.o
This map seems pretty fine to me, so I can mostly just make some suggestions play-wise.


• 00:32:949 (1) - Why you so lazy? Ofc this spinner fits, but mapping something streamy here would be way cooler than this long-ass spinner. D: Actually I thought about this, and did it now.

• 01:43:277 (6,7,8,9,1) - It feels wrong that this stream gets a lower spacing again. Even though it's supposed to calm down, the music is still quite intense until the slider. And at first I moved them too fast because I expected some more spacing here. I dont want to speed up the acceleration before a slooow slider D:

• 01:58:359 (3,4,5,6) - Why don't you make a triangle out of this like you did here? 01:59:998 (2,3,1,2) Did something else

• 02:27:539 (3,4,5,6) - I feel like they should be more like this.That's just an example tho, like this it would be a better build-up and also flows way better than this you made here. (and you probably shouldn't place them on the exact same spot as I did) I like them more the way I did tbh

• 02:34:096 (3,4) - This stack kinda destroys the flow. Fixed

• 02:59:014 (4,5) - Switch these? Also fits better to the stream. The slider before is 3/4 tho D: so then it would be harder to read and you get sliderbreaks D:

• 03:04:752 (1) - Hard to explain, that's why I can just show it. Thingy with the slidertail of 03:03:932 (2) . Fixed to be something else

• 03:07:211 (8,9,10,11,1) - Same as above. This is fine imo

• 03:28:195 (6,7,8,9,1) - ^ ^

• 03:48:195 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14) - I think you should increase the spacing a little bit at yellow combo and once again at green combo. Or at least at green combo because you kinda emphasized it with your hitsounding. I dont hear any change in the music other than here tho 03:49:506 (1) -

• 04:07:867 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - Honestly I don't understand why you mapped this part so calm when you made the previous one that sounds exactly the same VERY intense. Because after this part, comes a slow part so wanted to tune down a little

• 04:18:687 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - I think this stream should gain spacing because of the sound. I suck at describing. I think its fine as it is

• 04:22:293 (1,2,3) - Why is this custom stacking different than 04:23:932 (3,4,5) ? oops

• 05:02:621 (6,7,8,9,1) - Maybe overthink the spacing here too, dunno. I want it to be like that D:

Karen wrote:

[notice][General]

1. Where is your "white.jpg",

nice map, call me back when you're ready.

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Karen wrote:

[General]

1. Where is your "white.jpg", Updated sb

[Ethereal]

1. 04:44:260 (4) - i feel it's better to use 1/4 stream here like you did here 01:24:916 (4,5,6,7) - Thats true, fixed to be a 1/4 stream
2. 00:33:932 (3,9) - why not stack them better. Fixed as well
3. 00:46:228 (4) - try (21,176), then 00:45:900 (3,4,5) - this flow would be better imo. youre right! thanks fixed
4. 00:58:195 (7,8,1,2,3) - a bit weird to play, try 04:19:424 (12,13,14,1,2) - this kind of angle. I think this one is fine, but im not sure tbh like everyone that plays loves these kind of patterns in streams (at least people I know)
5. 03:49:015 (3,4,5,6,7) - ^ This one I fixed a bit though
6. 01:21:800 (5,6,1) - is there any reason that you use such a small spacing, it doesn't fit the music here, i suggest to use the same spacing with 01:22:210 (4,5,6,7) - Tbh I dont know either why I put less spacing there o.o
7. 03:49:506 (1) - personal suggestion, use 1/4 slider here like 03:48:031 (11) - for consistency. Yeah, fits well, got problems with how to rotate the stream compared to the 1/4 slider, but it worked out
8. 04:04:424 (4,5) - they are too close compared with 04:04:260 (3,4) - this jump. Fixed
9. 04:49:342 (9) - it isn't a good flow here imo, if i was you i'd like to try stack it on 04:49:834 (3) - this slider's tail. Good suggestion right there, I like it

^ just suggestions, feel free to reject.
nice map, call me back when you're ready. Most of them were really good suggestions though

Kroytz wrote:

hype hype hype

-Genesis wrote:

Kroytz wrote:

hype hype hype

1. byakuren2s.jpg (1366x1202)
2. byakuren2colorful.jpg (1366x1202)
3. redlight.png (2000x1124)

1. soft-hitclap.wav
2. soft-slidertick.wav
3. soft-hitfinish2.wav
4. soft-hitclap3.wav

JBHyperion wrote:

Storyboard Elements: Several SB elements exceed maximum permitted dimensions. These are:

1. byakuren2s.jpg (1366x1202)
2. byakuren2colorful.jpg (1366x1202)
3. redlight.png (2000x1124)

whilst the maximum permitted size of a static SB element is 1366x768. Please reduce these if possible.

Chat log

2015-12-02 20:54 smsh150: Hello!
2015-12-02 20:54 JBHyperion: yo
2015-12-02 20:54 smsh150: saw your mod, thx to make it
2015-12-02 20:54 JBHyperion: you're here about the SB?
2015-12-02 20:54 smsh150: yep, it's me
2015-12-02 20:54 smsh150: May I ask a thing?
2015-12-02 20:55 JBHyperion: sure
2015-12-02 20:55 smsh150: "redlight.png (2000x1124)"
2015-12-02 20:55 smsh150: And ranking criteria says "Storyboard images must be at a reasonable filesize and dimension for their usage. For most uses (e.g. full-screen images), the maximum is 1366x768 pixels. For widescreen storyboards 854x480 is preferred as it matches the internal resolution of the SB editor. For 4:3 aspect ratio images 640x480 is preferred."
2015-12-02 20:55 smsh150: " images must be at a reasonable filesize and dimension for their usage"
2015-12-02 20:55 JBHyperion: I take it this is not "most usage"
2015-12-02 20:55 JBHyperion: it's a rotating element iirc
2015-12-02 20:56 smsh150: So it's not allowed to have that big image with 370kb?
2015-12-02 20:57 smsh150: it's really small, though it is big image
2015-12-02 20:57 JBHyperion: well as you pointed out, the RC says "appropriate for usage"
2015-12-02 20:57 JBHyperion: I wouldn't say the size of that particular image is strictly unrankable per se
2015-12-02 20:58 JBHyperion: which is why I said to reduce it "if possible"
2015-12-02 20:58 smsh150: So I don't have to make that image smaller?
2015-12-02 20:58 JBHyperion: you don't "have" to, but if you can in any way, I would advise you to do so
2015-12-02 20:59 smsh150: I'm bit scared it gets DQ because of me ;w;
2015-12-02 20:59 JBHyperion: obviously don't compromise the effect you're trying to pull off
2015-12-02 21:00 JBHyperion: if you're still in doubt, I'd try asking a QAT. I'm just working off the RC and some people interpret that in different ways lol
2015-12-02 21:00 JBHyperion: although even QATs sometimes disagree on stuff xD
2015-12-02 21:00 smsh150: RC =?
2015-12-02 21:00 JBHyperion: ranking criteria
2015-12-02 21:00 JBHyperion: sorry
2015-12-02 21:00 smsh150: sorry don't know these abbreviation
2015-12-02 21:01 smsh150: Ah np
2015-12-02 21:01 smsh150: Hm I think I'll leave that image as it is
2015-12-02 21:01 smsh150: since it's so big in usage
2015-12-02 21:01 smsh150: it would maybe look horrible with low quality
2015-12-02 21:01 smsh150: dunno
2015-12-02 21:01 JBHyperion: fair enough
2015-12-02 21:01 JBHyperion: I would have had to pop for hitsounds anyway
2015-12-02 21:01 smsh150: I see
2015-12-02 21:02 JBHyperion: if you can get another opinion on it, you may as well
2015-12-02 21:02 JBHyperion: but at the end of the day, it comes down to the bubblers/qualifier
2015-12-02 21:02 smsh150: yea
2015-12-02 21:02 JBHyperion: if they're ok with it, great
2015-12-02 21:02 JBHyperion: if QATs aren't, then something's gotta give
2015-12-02 21:03 smsh150: Hmm
2015-12-02 21:03 JBHyperion: since I can't rebubble it's not really my call on what you should do
2015-12-02 21:03 smsh150: how do I get "byakuren2s" and "byakuren333" smaller O-o?
2015-12-02 21:04 smsh150: then it's not anymore full screan
2015-12-02 21:04 smsh150: screen*
2015-12-02 21:05 smsh150: Ah I got it, I need to cut the image from top and bottom
2015-12-02 21:05 JBHyperion: see this is gonna be a tricky one, since you'd need to lose a bunch of rows to get it under 768 height without stretching the image
2015-12-02 21:05 smsh150: Sorry for askin nonsenses
2015-12-02 21:05 JBHyperion: it's fine xD
2015-12-02 21:06 JBHyperion: how you go about that while still keeping a ice image is up to you
2015-12-02 21:06 JBHyperion: nice*
2015-12-02 21:06 smsh150: yea
2015-12-02 21:07 smsh150: Also the place of the bg's toriis forced me to do big image of redlight.png
2015-12-02 21:07 smsh150: since it's so centre, and the red light have to cover whole screen to not look stupid
2015-12-02 21:08 smsh150: If you get what I'm saying D:
2015-12-02 21:08 JBHyperion: yeah
2015-12-02 21:08 JBHyperion: if that's the smallest you can go whilst still doing what you want it to do, then it's fine ino
2015-12-02 21:09 JBHyperion: since that's it's "purpose"
2015-12-02 21:09 smsh150: ^^
2015-12-02 21:12 smsh150: Do I need to do forum answer so other BNs will see the meaning not to change redlight.png?
2015-12-02 21:13 smsh150: what do you think?
2015-12-02 21:13 JBHyperion: If you want you can just save a log of this conversation and post it there
2015-12-02 21:13 JBHyperion: it wouldn't hurt
2015-12-02 21:13 smsh150: Ah so smart
2015-12-02 21:14 smsh150: I wouldn't think that option O-o
2015-12-02 21:14 JBHyperion: please >///<
2015-12-02 21:14 smsh150: heh
2015-12-02 21:14 smsh150: I would have just write all the again xd
2015-12-02 21:14 JBHyperion: exactly, why make extra work for yourself? xD
2015-12-02 21:14 smsh150: yea
2015-12-02 21:14 smsh150: you are right
2015-12-02 21:15 smsh150: It's so nice always to speak to British
2015-12-02 21:15 smsh150: you use so good English
2015-12-02 21:15 JBHyperion: well it's my native language so I would hope I had good English lol
2015-12-02 21:16 smsh150: Heh, to me it is xD

JBHyperion wrote:

Once these are addressed, I'm sure Karen wouldn't mind if you asked for a rebub. I'm a scrub at Std so I can't evaluate the map critically enough to icon myself - I'm merely trying to help avoid the "obvious" DQ material. I hope you understand. I understand Fully!

Good luck with qualification Keada! Thanks

chucentry wrote:

Emmmm....

i didnt read the thread and so.... ok em I Mod the map for M4M so if u want check it

Ethernal

00:45:326 (4) - Remove this note. Put here a triple 00:45:490 - Didnt fit the music tbh

01:05:408 (1) - maybe change it for 1 note and a slider if u do it NC in the slider (01:05:572 - ) I like it more with 1/1 sliders to this rhythm tbh, and that is why I have a clap sound as slidertick

01:08:031 (1) - same ↑ ^

01:10:654 (1) - same ↑ ^

01:21:882 (6) - remove clap youre actually right, mb

01:21:965 (1) - clap here this didnt fit with clap tho

01:22:292 (5) - clap here right here as well

01:57:375 (1) - maybe change it for a curve slider https://gyazo.com/3fcf395b801147f6545e9754daa7e7ef nah, doesnt fit with the section later D:

02:18:850 (1) - maybe curve this slider https://gyazo.com/cc4fb117d28719c0d57af5feb609e32d same here D:

02:24:096 (1) - clap nah, I have a finish there, cause the music

02:25:571 (1) - ↑ ^

02:26:719 (1) - clap and here ^

03:38:850 (6) - maybe stack with 03:37:211 (5) - did something else that fits here

03:39:014 (1,2,3,4) - mmm... 03:39:014 (1) - this in x:288 y:120 and them stack 03:39:670 (2,3) - in the slider tail and 03:40:162 (4) - in x:111 y:55 try it if u like https://gyazo.com/a8b8c7c1dd86f0e99b8c97028088ec03 I like it more my way tbh

03:49:506 (9) - NC and finish added finish but not NC

03:49:669 (1) - remove NC as stated ^

04:06:228 (5) - maybe something like this http://puu.sh/lIAEF/b254bb6721.jpg Thanks for the tip, but did something a little bit different here

05:11:965 (1) - slider + note nah I like it more this way D:

05:19:834 (1) - slider + note ^

05:22:457 (1) - slider + note^

Irreversible wrote:

Get some more mods by experienced people, and then try to requalify it.

Keada wrote:

It doesnt matter anymore...
This actually ruined my hope left in this game.
But thank you, at least I had something qualified.

And yeah Irreversible?
For the first, this isnt my first map (First map qualified but yeah)
For the 2nd youre saying this is nowhere good enough for rank? Why is this shitmap ranked then?https://osu.ppy.sh/s/350528
This is one of the most horrible maps of this song that Ive seen...I havent seen the mania map, but the Std map looks like shit and it plays like shit..

But yeah, none of it matters anymore, since the osu community is getting more and more shit for everyday.

But yeah, thanks to everyone that supported me through this map, but im sorry. Im quitting this game. Mapping was the only fun thing left for me in this game, and Irreversible ruined that, thanks... and bye.

Irreversible wrote:

I really have to say, this is nowhere good enough to get ranked after 1 page of rather poor mods.

Chaoslitz wrote:

BNs are always creating hope and help mappers to reach their own goals.

Exote wrote:

Not willing to start a fight, but...
Do you actually know how much people like us, I mean mappers with barely any ranked maps (or none at all) struggle to get mods from experienced modders, since like MOST of them ignore, no, they don't say no, they IGNORE? If you want some experienced modders/mappers to mod this map, go and do it yourself then.
As for the map, don't give up Keada. Try to fix at least the spacing inconsistencies, otherwise the map seems pretty solid to me. Good luck!

Hula wrote:

This is in no way a personal attack or whatever, take it as a mod. I haven't seen this map ever before and someone thought ti needed more modding and here I am.

Keada wrote:

For the 2nd youre saying this is nowhere good enough for rank? Why is this shitmap ranked then?https://osu.ppy.sh/s/350528
This is one of the most horrible maps of this song that Ive seen...I havent seen the mania map, but the Std map looks like shit and it plays like shit..
.

Keada wrote:

For the 2nd youre saying this is nowhere good enough for rank? Why is this shitmap ranked then?https://osu.ppy.sh/s/350528
This is one of the most horrible maps of this song that Ive seen...I havent seen the mania map, but the Std map looks like shit and it plays like shit..

Keada wrote:

But yeah, none of it matters anymore, since the osu community is getting more and more shit for everyday.

Keada wrote:

But yeah, thanks to everyone that supported me through this map, but im sorry. Im quitting this game. Mapping was the only fun thing left for me in this game, and Irreversible ruined that, thanks... and bye.

Hula wrote:

There's a huge number of BNs to QATs right now, and to expect them to check every map and then be bothered to potentially DQ every map constantly is a tall order.

Irreversible wrote:

It should be another approach to all BNs to raise their qualities and take care of details. Like this, less drama will be created. Less maps will be ranked too, but we will improve quality. We should not forget that ranking is not a privilege."

Irreversible wrote:

Yes, I am very aware of that. During the time, more and more experienced modders quit, but newbie modders never made it to this stage, because quality dropped more and more and people bubble or rank without proper checking.

Irreversible wrote:

It still seems not to be clear that disqualification is nothing bad at all. Yes, I disqualified this map for lacking quality, however: people can discuss, give their input and help to bring this map to a better state. In a disqualificated state it's possible for everyone to talk, but no one is taking this opportunity but rather starts to begin drama which doesn't lead us anywhere. And seeing that people actually agree that there are inconsistencies support my statement only more.

Hula wrote:

This is in no way a personal attack or whatever, take it as a mod. I haven't seen this map ever before and someone thought ti needed more modding and here I am.



[General]
I'm gonna try keep away from questioning your spacing too much, since well, it would make the mod much more time consuming for myself, and I only plan to do this for 20-30 mins.
check your blankets too.
The timeline rhythms are fine, but the patterns on the playscreen lack a lot of structure.

Okay, so at the start, already I'm under the impression that you struggle with emphasising with spacing correctly, this is a first impression mind you. You happily space 00:26:555 (2,3) - , which is understandable to a point, but then you won't space this 00:27:375 (6,1) - , musically in every sense this is a stronger beat, it's a louder sound, it's the start of the new bar, it's a downbeat. This should be spaced more. Sure, valid.

00:35:244 (9,1) - These should not be stacked, these have piano samples landing on the ticks, also it's a downbeat, why would you suddenly stack it like that.
Also valid.

In the first kiai, considering this is the type of map you've made, it bewilders me why you would put a 1/1 slider right over the top of that downbeat, I know you wanna get that epic sample mapped, but a 1/2 slider on the red tick ending on the downbeat is a much better compromise, right now you're missing 50% of the strongest beats in the first kiai. If I understood correctly which sliders you meant, he mapped them to the sound which was a dominating point in the song and there is NO problem with gameplay aswell right there.

01:11:801 (6) - Should be 1/2 circles instead to emphasise the synth better (let's just call it a synth now), currently it's the only time it's mapped like that and it's odd. Could be, shouldn't be because this fits the rhythml.

01:19:998 (1,2,3) - What the hell happened to the spacing here, 2 to 3 should never be that large, there's nothing in the music for that. I think that plays very nice and it emphasises the transition in the song
01:20:654 (7,8,9) - Same with this random spacing. Same
01:21:309 (1,2,3,4,5) - Sorry, but what? Agree this is weird as fuck.
01:25:244 (1,2) - No 3/4 rhythm hear at all, not even in the vocals, same with basically all of them in this kiai.Please, people do this in so many maps and you bring this up? No point, I have seen this in countless songs where people extend a slider like that.
01:26:228 (5,6) - Why is this spacing as large as the rest in this pattern? it's not even got a drum beat on it, it's got a vocal on it, but it's different. Also this pattern lacks structure, like that 5-6 placement could be way neater and included in some sort of pattern.I agree about the 5-6 placement because it flow badly atm but what is wrong with the spacing?
01:27:539 (5) - Why is this vocal pattern now a slider? but before it was 2.0 ds spacing 1/2 circles. Don't see your point.
01:32:949 (1) - Why is this spaced less in this pattern, though imo it shouldn't be, but then later on, 01:40:818 (1) - you would do this sort of massive spacing. At this point I feel like you mention stuff that I have seen in several ranked maps, people just sometimes space stuff less or more without reason and don't even try to tell me it is not the case.

01:39:178 (6,1) - I like this spacing though, because of the hold, real cool.
02:09:834 (1,2,3,4) - Why did you stop suddenly mapping the piano? That was sudden and unexpected, since you mapped the piano here on the red tick. Nothing wrong with this, again it's just something you would do - map the piano, he slowed down because of the vocals.

02:09:178 (5,6,1) - , it feels broken, especially as in the next bar you map it like this 02:10:982 (5,6,7) - obviously to try include all the piano bits with less intensity. As it stands, it's inconsistent at this part. 02:15:080 (1,2,3) - It works fine here though.That part is not broken although I think it the next 2 notes should be spaced if he used reverse slider, I srsly don't see a big problem anywhere there and it's just all again suggestions how it could work out differently, nothing DQ wrorth.
02:21:801 (2,5,1) - Spacing? Yes
02:24:014 (6,1) - Ugly as a mangled cat. Wtf
02:26:719 (1) - I was expecting a spacing increase here, since it's like the ugly as a mangled cat part, with the cymbal landing on the half beat before the downbeat. Yes
02:27:211 (2) - Should be 1/2 circles instead, currently feels wonky that you put the vocals on the end part and then put those batshit crazy 1/4 sliders there.
02:27:539 (3,4,5,6) - This probably shouldn't even be 1/4 sliders here at all. All you can hear is a buzz basically. Rather, you should just map the vocals, making a jump pattern from that. If you are gonna keep the 1/4 sliders, reconsider that spacing and also structure it, it currently lacks it entirely.

In this part again, these 3/4 things really aren't appropriate for 95% of the time, there is no 3/4, you don't even try to make an effort of reducing the slider end volume to offset the made up rhythm, which could be a workaround, since your hitnormal is very bass heavy and it makes you think you're hitting the drums.
02:46:555 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - This spacing seems very extreme to what we've seen mostly in the map, apart from the batshit crazy 1/4 sliders. Especially since this part isn't even that intense. It's spaced more than the next part with the sick saxophone and the kiais.

I really like the sax part at 2:51, I like the rhythms chose, maybe not the patterns sooo much, but the rhythms are nice.
02:51:637 (1,2,3) - Nice rhythm, but a missed chance of having structured rhythm here along the y-axis, for no reason whatsoever.
02:55:244 (6,7) - What's up with the spacing, it's suddenly huge, this is the calmer part of the section, i'd also strictly use sliders for the sax and circles for other things in this part, for emphasis and consistency, if you get me.
02:58:687 (3) - 100% should be 1/2 slider, there's a sound on the red tick, not at all on the blue.
03:00:654 (5,1) - Why does the spacing reduce here onto the downbeat which has the sax, but the red tick has greater spacing with nothing on it.
02:55:736 (1) - Same here with the 1/2 slider thing, apply this thing the whole time throughout now.
03:01:637 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This lacks structure and any kind of emphasis, there's the jump pattern with the sax, then suddenly the sax comes in and the same sort of thing is going on, no discernible difference, which shouldn't be the case, since this map doesn't have much restrictions on itself.
03:04:588 (5) - Delete circle, stack the next (1) on the (4), like you've been doing the whole song so far.


OKAY. time's up, I will complete the mod if you accept any of this and you want it ofc.

monstrata wrote:

The reason why post-qualification mods are met with such drama is cuz

1. They didn't ask for or want a mod.
2. Anything you say would basically be an attack on their map because you are pointing out stuff that may or may not be an issue for the purpose of drawing attention and calling them out for low quality works etc...

Keada wrote:

Ok, maybe I overreacted too much ._.
But sometimes, when I get to much critique, I just give up on things because thats who I am, but seeing all the support I got after this overreacting was, yeah I dont know how to explain it ;-;

Sorry I overreacted, and I will see what I can do later with the spacing issues.
I just want a little break first, since this was too much for me.

Thank you all thats been supporting me <3
Ill go back today when I have had a little break QQ

Hula wrote:

Hula wrote:

This is in no way a personal attack or whatever, take it as a mod. I haven't seen this map ever before and someone thought ti needed more modding and here I am.

This. Read this. I'm not going to pander to your emotions. Nor should anyone else. Mods are a necessary part of the map making process, it is akin to peer-reviewing in the scientific community, it encourages end products of higher quality.

Asfand wrote:

rank denne pls.
Vil ha min 90% acc pass

Cherry Blossom wrote:

You know, that's just a game. Not your life.

Daeymieh wrote:

Cherry Blossom wrote:

You know, that's just a game. Not your life.

You know, some people take things like this more serious than other do.

neonat wrote:

Cherry Blossom wrote:

You know, that's just a game. Not your life.

so? lol

neonat wrote:

so? lol

Keada wrote:

These are the kind of persons thats dragging this community down...just saying

1. 03:30:326 (5,6,7) - things like this are weird to play, the previous patterns are fast, i mean there is a high spacing between objects. And here, after a kick slider the spacing is kinda confusing, it gives a weird impression when the spacing between 03:30:654 (6,7) - is close.At least, it could be better if you increase the distance between 03:30:654 (6,7) -
   same for 01:45:408 (4,5,6,1) - etc.
2. 03:32:785 (2,4) - avoid this kind of overlap, it is ugly and it is not difficult to fix to give a better impression on visuals.

Keada wrote:

These are the kind of persons thats dragging this community down...just saying

Keada wrote:

For the 2nd youre saying this is nowhere good enough for rank? Why is this shitmap ranked then?https://osu.ppy.sh/s/350528
This is one of the most horrible maps of this song that Ive seen...I havent seen the mania map, but the Std map looks like shit and it plays like shit..

Trust wrote:

Keada wrote:

These are the kind of persons thats dragging this community down...just saying

Keada wrote:

For the 2nd youre saying this is nowhere good enough for rank? Why is this shitmap ranked then?https://osu.ppy.sh/s/350528
This is one of the most horrible maps of this song that Ive seen...I havent seen the mania map, but the Std map looks like shit and it plays like shit..

This thread is baffling.

Hula wrote:

This is in no way a personal attack or whatever, take it as a mod. I haven't seen this map ever before and someone thought ti needed more modding and here I am.



[General]
I'm gonna try keep away from questioning your spacing too much, since well, it would make the mod much more time consuming for myself, and I only plan to do this for 20-30 mins.
check your blankets too.
The timeline rhythms are fine, but the patterns on the playscreen lack a lot of structure.

Okay, so at the start, already I'm under the impression that you struggle with emphasising with spacing correctly, this is a first impression mind you. You happily space 00:26:555 (2,3) - , which is understandable to a point, but then you won't space this 00:27:375 (6,1) - , musically in every sense this is a stronger beat, it's a louder sound, it's the start of the new bar, it's a downbeat. This should be spaced more. Fixed this

00:35:244 (9,1) - These should not be stacked, these have piano samples landing on the ticks, also it's a downbeat, why would you suddenly stack it like that. true, fixed this as well

In the first kiai, considering this is the type of map you've made, it bewilders me why you would put a 1/1 slider right over the top of that downbeat, I know you wanna get that epic sample mapped, but a 1/2 slider on the red tick ending on the downbeat is a much better compromise, right now you're missing 50% of the strongest beats in the first kiai. This Ill have to say no to, because in this kiai the strong beat starts at 01:05:408 - after what im mapping here
01:11:801 (6) - Should be 1/2 circles instead to emphasise the synth better (let's just call it a synth now), currently it's the only time it's mapped like that and it's odd. I see, fixed to something a little bit different

01:19:998 (1,2,3) - What the hell happened to the spacing here, 2 to 3 should never be that large, there's nothing in the music for that. Fixed
01:20:654 (7,8,9) - Same with this random spacing. ^
01:21:309 (1,2,3,4,5) - Sorry, but what? ^
01:25:244 (1,2) - No 3/4 rhythm hear at all, not even in the vocals, same with basically all of them in this kiai. It is because, you dont hear any music on the red tick here, but its a strong clap on the next white tick, and thats why I mapped thos 3/4s
01:26:228 (5,6) - Why is this spacing as large as the rest in this pattern? it's not even got a drum beat on it, it's got a vocal on it, but it's different. Also this pattern lacks structure, like that 5-6 placement could be way neater and included in some sort of pattern. Fixed this pattern
01:27:539 (5) - Why is this vocal pattern now a slider? but before it was 2.0 ds spacing 1/2 circles. oops fixed
01:32:949 (1) - Why is this spaced less in this pattern, though imo it shouldn't be, but then later on, 01:40:818 (1) - you would do this sort of massive spacing. 01:39:178 (6,1) - I like this spacing though, because of the hold, real cool. oke fixed
02:09:834 (1,2,3,4) - Why did you stop suddenly mapping the piano? That was sudden and unexpected, since you mapped the piano here on the red tick, 02:09:178 (5,6,1) - , it feels broken, especially as in the next bar you map it like this 02:10:982 (5,6,7) - obviously to try include all the piano bits with less intensity. As it stands, it's inconsistent at this part. 02:15:080 (1,2,3) - It works fine here though. Not sure what you mean here? I am mapping after drums and vocal??
02:21:801 (2,5,1) - Spacing? not sure what you mean here??
02:24:014 (6,1) - Ugly as a mangled cat. youre ugly
02:26:719 (1) - I was expecting a spacing increase here, since it's like the ugly as a mangled cat part, with the cymbal landing on the half beat before the downbeat. fixed
02:27:211 (2) - Should be 1/2 circles instead, currently feels wonky that you put the vocals on the end part and then put those batshit crazy 1/4 sliders there. not sure, dont think so tbh its more fitted with a 1/2 slider here, but I fixed the spacing
02:27:539 (3,4,5,6) - This probably shouldn't even be 1/4 sliders here at all. All you can hear is a buzz basically. Rather, you should just map the vocals, making a jump pattern from that. If you are gonna keep the 1/4 sliders, reconsider that spacing and also structure it, it currently lacks it entirely. Fixed the pattern tho

In this part again, these 3/4 things really aren't appropriate for 95% of the time, there is no 3/4, you don't even try to make an effort of reducing the slider end volume to offset the made up rhythm, which could be a workaround, since your hitnormal is very bass heavy and it makes you think you're hitting the drums. I think it sounds way better with 3/4 on those sliders, and if its about hitsounds? then Ill just fix the soft instead on those
02:46:555 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - This spacing seems very extreme to what we've seen mostly in the map, apart from the batshit crazy 1/4 sliders. Especially since this part isn't even that intense. It's spaced more than the next part with the sick saxophone and the kiais. What are you talking about? this is one of the most intense parts of the song? do you have bad ears?

I really like the sax part at 2:51, I like the rhythms chose, maybe not the patterns sooo much, but the rhythms are nice.
02:51:637 (1,2,3) - Nice rhythm, but a missed chance of having structured rhythm here along the y-axis, for no reason whatsoever. fixed it
02:55:244 (6,7) - What's up with the spacing, it's suddenly huge, this is the calmer part of the section, i'd also strictly use sliders for the sax and circles for other things in this part, for emphasis and consistency, if you get me. youre right. fixed it now
02:58:687 (3) - 100% should be 1/2 slider, there's a sound on the red tick, not at all on the blue. true there. fixed it
03:00:654 (5,1) - Why does the spacing reduce here onto the downbeat which has the sax, but the red tick has greater spacing with nothing on it. thats true, no idea why. Fixed
02:55:736 (1) - Same here with the 1/2 slider thing, apply this thing the whole time throughout now. Things I said above ^
03:01:637 (3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - This lacks structure and any kind of emphasis, there's the jump pattern with the sax, then suddenly the sax comes in and the same sort of thing is going on, no discernible difference, which shouldn't be the case, since this map doesn't have much restrictions on itself. not sure what you meant?? :S
03:04:588 (5) - Delete circle, stack the next (1) on the (4), like you've been doing the whole song so far. Huh? what are you talking about? Im mapping after the music here and there is another rhythm in this timeline???


OKAY. time's up, I will complete the mod if you accept any of this and you want it ofc.

Cherry Blossom wrote:

And you're probably the best meme BN, holy mother of god this game.

Some things.

1. 03:30:326 (5,6,7) - things like this are weird to play, the previous patterns are fast, i mean there is a high spacing between objects. And here, after a kick slider the spacing is kinda confusing, it gives a weird impression when the spacing between 03:30:654 (6,7) - is close.At least, it could be better if you increase the distance between 03:30:654 (6,7) -
   same for 01:45:408 (4,5,6,1) - etc.
2. 03:32:785 (2,4) - avoid this kind of overlap, it is ugly and it is not difficult to fix to give a better impression on visuals.

no kd.

Fixed the things above here ^

pkhg wrote:

u broke rumia's heart

but u can still love maki

but Nozomi is better :<

[ C Y ] wrote:

00:59:014 (1) - i think it would be better to start streaming from this point...

RVMathew wrote:

Hi there. I am doing this mod to fulfill my obligation to you.

Obligation

You posted in my queue t/336458/start=30 7 months ago for a NM request on this map: https://osu.ppy.sh/b/716576. I do not know whether you will pick that map up again, so as compensation for not modding earlier I am doing this mod for you.

Note that whatever I say is my own opinion so you do not have to follow everything I say. Note that as I am not used to AR9+ some parts will be quite very subjective due to my lack of speed.

Sightread result

https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4387319

1) 00:15:736 - I notice that around here you can hear the sound of the waves, and they are getting louder and quieter. I was thinking of manipulating the spinner volume with timing points to reflect the volume of the waves going up or down. I think it makes the beatmap more interesting but if you think it is tacky and not worthwhile, ignore it. I did it

2) 00:28:523 (5) - I did trip up here, because I was expecting this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4387355. That was on my sightread though so you do not have to change it at all. I just wanted to mention that to you. Hmm, Ill think about it

3) 00:32:785 From here to the spinner, the music increases in volume. Wouldn't it be better to increase the hitsound volume to reflect the build up in music? More timing points = smoother increase in music. Tried it a bit

4) 00:34:752 (6,7,8,9) - I do not know whether you were trying to make a perfect square. If not ignore this. Otherwise I would use ctrl+shift+d as a guide. I wasnt going for perfect but I fixed it a bit xd

5) 00:45:244 (3,4,5) - I do know you are following the back rhythm, but since the vocals are prominent, why not use a 1/2 slider? Note that when I do mods or make maps, I put more emphasis on vocals, so this part is very subjective. Im going for back rhythm all the time so, I want to keep it consistent

6) 00:57:703 As the rhythm increases in volume, I would again reflect that with timing points; successive timing points have an increase in volume. did a bit

7) 01:02:867 I think you should silence the slider end: maybe put it at 10-15% volume to make it less prominent. fixed

8) 01:14:752 Onwards. You know the trumpet at the back? I was thinking of using hitwhistles to emphasize the trumpet, or if you wanted to go further, maybe keysound the trumpet? Good Idea, Ill do it elsewhere I hear it as well

9) 01:29:342 (2,3) - Considering point 2, they are not on the same line. I was thinking of shifting 3 so it looks like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4387395. This is me being very anal. Being linear isnt very fun D:

10) 01:58:687 (4) - Shift to (240,112) so it is aligned with the previous slider. I am curious as to why you turn to linear mapping? I do like that actually and the simplicity just makes it better. View>stacking, see now

11) 01:59:342 (1,2,3) - Thanks to the way stacking works, 1 and 3 are aligned properly but 2 and 3 are not aligned properly in the x direction. I recommend making 2 a partial stack so then you can have 1, 2 and 3 on the same x-coordinate. huh?

12) 02:06:555 (1) - Shorten this to a 3/2 slider and add a note at 02:07:211 (2). I know you are following something but I cannot name it. The reason I suggest the change is that at 02:07:211 (2) There is a vocal bit, which also happens to be on the big tick. This indicates that it is a strong beat so it would make sense to have this as a clickable bit.
- Applies to 02:17:047 (1) - Fixed it

13) 02:28:195 I was thinking this bit could be a kiai area. Same, why I didnt do it is a good question

14) 03:09:506 (1,2) - Silence the slider ends if you are following vocals. done

15) 03:33:113 (3,4,5,6) - For symmetrical reasons, copy one side and reflect it via the y-axis so it looks like this: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4387424. I like symmetry at times. Fixed

16) 04:44:868: Storyboard inspired by J.J Abrams (what is with the lens flare)?
Final thoughts
I really like this beatmap. I think in terms of rhythm, solid. Jumps: good and thanks to the smaller circle size, it looks less clustered and messy. I was very anal with some things but they may make a huge difference.

Good luck, and PM me via osu website if you want the other map I mentioned early on in the post checked.

Strategas wrote:

queue

[general]

delayed hitsounds ~5 ms soft-hitclap.wav and soft-slidertick.wav Fixed Earlier

[dff]

01:23:605 - 04:21:965 - probably missed normal addition fixed them

01:36:719 (5) - this feels lacking emphasis, move further a bit or something fixed

02:43:932 (1) - it would make more sense if the spacing started bigger but then gradually decreased, because the tone of the music and voice is getting weaker I like this more the way it is now, as it fits as well

02:59:178 (5,6,7) - flow is pretty bad here Fixed

03:16:719 (1) - this is pretty huge jump, could ctrl g 03:16:391 (5) - and move it a bit closer Good suggestion, fixed

03:40:326 (1) - don't it fits that well tbh could try making some long slider in this red combo following vocals it fits well imo o.O the rhythm in the bg as well and I end the slider when vocal is changing

03:49:506 (9) - would make more sense to nc here instead but I suppose you didn't because it looks better like this? And I keep it consisten as in here 03:48:195 (1) -

04:23:932 - clap oopsie, added

04:33:605 (8) - it'd be cooler if you made two of these that start on vocals 04:33:441 - 04:33:769 - true, fixed it

04:43:277 - does the sb really need to flash here xd I dont know ask the sber xd

04:57:375 (5,6) - more spacing on these would make sense fixed

05:05:572 (1,2,4,6,8) - a bit inconsistant overlapping, because it's the only one you do in the whole section tried to make a pattern of it lmao

nice map and song, hope to see it ranked again ^^ thanks :3