It's impossible in taiko, 3 overlapped notes... :/DakeDekaane wrote:
Ultra Beginner got ruined by the high AR, can't be helped without SBing, but Super Beginner and Beginner got ruined by the overlaps.
Edit: lol Yuii- mapping wtf
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AKINO from bless4 & CHiCO with HoneyWorks - MIIRO vs. Ai no
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hehe
RudeMinakami Yuki wrote:
hehe
quite confused about the metadata lolCherry Blossom wrote:
RudeMinakami Yuki wrote:
hehe
let's see how it will happen
/me hides
seems no one notices this postCrystal wrote:
:( it can be fixed easily..
the only thing you need to do is moving the last anchor 1 grid away and then move it back
http://puu.sh/jJ5fH/bf9a0e66e2.jpg
or is it just me who will not see this problem by solving this way
also i agree with thisMinakami Yuki wrote:
quite confused about the metadata lol
Topic Starter
Even if it can be solved easily, what about other ranked maps with the same issue? The problem isn't that the slider is less than one 1ms unsnapped, its that there is a platform error that wasn't there before. It's a bug with cutting-edge. Fixing the slider on this map won't fix the issue because it affects other maps. I would know because i have another ranked map with the same issue now.
Regarding metadata:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/299000
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/28222
Same concept lol. Title and artist displays the previewed song, and the second song is used in tags. The only difference is that I intentionally filled the first 20 tags with GD names and kancolle tags so the "ai no scenario" "magic kaito 1412" tags will not appear on the online listings. Only the first 20 tags are displayed on the beatmap listing page. If QAT's disagree with this strongly enough, they have my permission to edit the tags and have all Ai no Scenario related tags in the first 20 tags. This will not require a DQ because QAT's can edit online tags without necessitating a DQ for me to re-upload.
Regarding metadata:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/299000
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/28222
Same concept lol. Title and artist displays the previewed song, and the second song is used in tags. The only difference is that I intentionally filled the first 20 tags with GD names and kancolle tags so the "ai no scenario" "magic kaito 1412" tags will not appear on the online listings. Only the first 20 tags are displayed on the beatmap listing page. If QAT's disagree with this strongly enough, they have my permission to edit the tags and have all Ai no Scenario related tags in the first 20 tags. This will not require a DQ because QAT's can edit online tags without necessitating a DQ for me to re-upload.
Shohei Ohtani
monstrata wrote:
Even if it can be solved easily, what about other ranked maps with the same issue? The problem isn't that the slider is less than one 1ms unsnapped, its that there is a platform error that wasn't there before. It's a bug with cutting-edge. Fixing the slider on this map won't fix the issue because it affects other maps. I would know because i have another ranked map with the same issue now.
Regarding metadata:
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/299000
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/28222
Same concept lol. Title and artist displays the previewed song, and the second song is used in tags. The only difference is that I intentionally filled the first 20 tags with GD names and kancolle tags so the "ai no scenario" "magic kaito 1412" tags will not appear on the online listings. Only the first 20 tags are displayed on the beatmap listing page. If QAT's disagree with this strongly enough, they have my permission to edit the tags and have all Ai no Scenario related tags in the first 20 tags. This will not require a DQ because QAT's can edit online tags without necessitating a DQ for me to re-upload.
BanchoBot wrote:
Issue(s) in this thread have been addressed by the following changes:The changes will be applied to builds newer than b20150821.3cuttingedge.
- Disallow slider ticks closer than 10ms to slider ends. (Tom94)
Please follow up in this thread if you believe more work needs to be done to fix the mentioned issues. If they have not yet been resolved, please provide any new details that may have arisen after this build.
I think you're safe now
so how about fixing those hitsounds
The gap between Normal and Walao's Advanced is too high, make a new diff please.
I can have red name too.
Gratz
Gratz
this actually got ranked,,,?
Shohei Ohtani
I'm still worried about that metadata lol
But there is something I'm worried more... why in Ultra Beginner the mod multiplicators are ignored in std and ctb? I never have seen something like that before... I don't understand how the hell a NF EZ HT play can get the same record that a HD HR DT FL... (anyway It's funny to see things like that XD)
But there is something I'm worried more... why in Ultra Beginner the mod multiplicators are ignored in std and ctb? I never have seen something like that before... I don't understand how the hell a NF EZ HT play can get the same record that a HD HR DT FL... (anyway It's funny to see things like that XD)
Such little extra score
Use HT/EZ to get more points from the spinner
Use HT/EZ to get more points from the spinner
Lach wrote:
Can someone unrank this so monstrata can finish his hitsounding like what the fuck
huh what is the probl- ohLach wrote:
so how about fixing those hitsounds
The set uses customs for a lot of the difficulties and they sound quite good (toybot's Insane, pishi's Extra, Kyshiro's Extra)
But others use mostly defaults (Tatoe, Nathan's Insane, Sharkie's Insane, sheela's Very Hard, Hard, Smoothie World's Extra, Walao's Advanced, Extra, Normal, Yuistrata's easy).
The soft whistle, soft clap combination going on sounds really bad, especially during the last kiai.
If you're wanting to have a mix of custom hitsounding and traditional hitsounding, use ktgster's difficulty as a reference for when using mostly defaults. It sounds nice.
Also be careful when using hitsound copiers! Maps have different densities, and sometimes a clap that sounds appropriate in one won't sound good in the other!
So when this gets moved back to fix the slider shenanigans, don't forget to fix the hitsounding.
... oh and uh, change the background from PNG to JPG, it's bigger than the mp3.
I meant that It's irrelevant to use them considering that the diff has OD 0 (and NF is still useless)Baraatje123 wrote:
Such little extra score
Use HT/EZ to get more points from the spinner
たとえ Even if you edit mp3 and have the right to name it, honestly I disagree with current metadata (especially Artist, Title and Source) that misleads people.. This may be just me though. Well, I will also see how this goes for now.
Gratz anywa
Gratz anywa
Topic Starter
Well, it's supposed to mislead people xD.
Seeing as tom94 has fixed the slider-tick issue by widening the window from <1ms to 10ms the slider-tick issue should no longer be an issue.
If this does get DQ'ed for some non meta-data related issue i'll probably just redo the hitsounding myself, thanks Charles, even tho Lach's intentions were really that i didn't use custom "Ta" "To" "Eh" hitsounds for the Tatoe change lol.
Seeing as tom94 has fixed the slider-tick issue by widening the window from <1ms to 10ms the slider-tick issue should no longer be an issue.
If this does get DQ'ed for some non meta-data related issue i'll probably just redo the hitsounding myself, thanks Charles, even tho Lach's intentions were really that i didn't use custom "Ta" "To" "Eh" hitsounds for the Tatoe change lol.
Not only 先輩 \( ‾◡‾)/KSHR wrote:
たとえ Even if you edit mp3 and have the right to name it, honestly I disagree with current metadata (especially Artist, Title and Source) that misleads people.. This may be just me though. Well, I will also see how this goes for now.
Gratz anywa
Gratz.
No, it was the fact that you have randomly placed hit-claps that feel very disruptive and inconsistent across each difficulty after the song change.monstrata wrote:
Lach's intentions were really that i didn't use custom "Ta" "To" "Eh" hitsounds for the Tatoe change lol.
Topic Starter
qq"
so much for #modhelp ;ccccc
Well, lets see how this goes.
so much for #modhelp ;ccccc
Well, lets see how this goes.
Disqualification Notice
Hello!
Unfortunately, the Quality Assurance Team has decided to disqualify this beatmap. The following is a list of reasons and examples for the disqualification. We do not outline every issue in detail, so make sure to take the idea behind each reason and apply it to the entire beatmap as issues might be found in more than the spots mentioned below. If you have any questions, please reply to this post and we will do our best to clarify any misunderstandings.
General
Misleading Artist/Title
Misleading Artist/Title
The current artist/title is really misleading to the player. You can decide artist/title freely, but we don't accept the current artist/title. Therefore you need to decide a name that does not misleading. I'd like to recommend the following example.
- Artist: AKINO from bless4 & CHiCO with HoneyWorks
- Title: 海色 & アイのシナリオ
- Romanised Title: MIIRO & Ai no Scenario
Source should be removed because MIIRO and Ai no Scenario are the different anime songs.
MIIRO is "艦隊これくしょん -艦これ-" and Ai no Scenario is "まじっく快斗1412".
If you happen to have concerns about this disqualification, you can contest the decision with this form. Before using this form, please read the instructions carefully.The Beatmap Nominators may handle this mapset after the issues have been addressed.
Good luck!
###B
Okay, so lesson of today, dont farm maps until they are really ranked,
just dropped 53 pp (570 ranks for me)
just dropped 53 pp (570 ranks for me)
If you're going to change title, why not change to AKINO with Honeyworks - MIIRO no Scenario? lol
contest please.
Raikozen wrote:
then, tell me, QAT, how is THIS ranked the way it is?
bullshit.
Bluekrait wrote:
Umm https://osu.ppy.sh/s/299000 ?
Doesn't matter. This DQ isn't even wrong in the reasoning. Stop crying and play maps whenever they are ranked if you can't contribute with anything else other than rants.
Ah well the map is still the same, even if the surprise meme element is gone.
I'm more surprised that out of all these diff's not one difficulty-specific or quality issue was found (good job everyone?).
I'm more surprised that out of all these diff's not one difficulty-specific or quality issue was found (good job everyone?).
Why does everyone think that since that April fools map got ranked suddenly it's alright to use the wrong meta data? I've seen more people linking that and this map to do the same thing (cough nocturnus).
Talking about creating precedents, geez. That Bad Apple should have never been ranked.
Talking about creating precedents, geez. That Bad Apple should have never been ranked.
Song: MIIRO
Artist: Monstrata
He could technically make it his own song and keep the same title.
Artist: Monstrata
He could technically make it his own song and keep the same title.
wrong metadata is just wrong, it can cause dq, so dont be amazed that it happens.
I also dont know why https://osu.ppy.sh/s/299000 can be ranked, maybe justin bieber's song have no source so the mapper can use touhou as source? or it's just a carelessness from QATs.
the mapset itself is quite well, good luck on re-qualifying this, tatoe mix is really funny and interesting lol
I also dont know why https://osu.ppy.sh/s/299000 can be ranked, maybe justin bieber's song have no source so the mapper can use touhou as source? or it's just a carelessness from QATs.
the mapset itself is quite well, good luck on re-qualifying this, tatoe mix is really funny and interesting lol
Hey now you can fix the hitsounds
Sushi makes funny meme 4 years ago and people still think it's still funny to do this kind of thing. I'm surprised nobody has done it with Never Gonna Give You Up yet because that's how dry this kind of humour is.A Mystery wrote:
Why does everyone think that since that April fools map got ranked suddenly it's alright to use the wrong meta data? I've seen more people linking that and this map to do the same thing (cough nocturnus).
Talking about creating precedents, geez. That Bad Apple should have never been ranked.
I wouldn't really put remixing into the same boat as copypasting two songs together in a DAW but okWookiezi wrote:
Song: MIIRO
Artist: Monstrata
He could technically make it his own song and keep the same title.
Yes, it is funny, but now there have to be people to ruin that fun and (complain about) abuse (of) that one-time-april-fools-qualify.Lach wrote:
Hey now you can fix the hitsoundsSushi makes funny meme 4 years ago and people still think it's still funny to do this kind of thing. I'm surprised nobody has done it with Never Gonna Give You Up yet because that's how dry this kind of humour is.A Mystery wrote:
Why does everyone think that since that April fools map got ranked suddenly it's alright to use the wrong meta data? I've seen more people linking that and this map to do the same thing (cough nocturnus).
Talking about creating precedents, geez. That Bad Apple should have never been ranked.
He made the mp3 himself, so he's free to title it as he wants.Minakami Yuki wrote:
wrong metadata is just wrong, it can cause dq, so dont be amazed that it happens.
I also dont know why https://osu.ppy.sh/s/299000 can be ranked, maybe justin bieber's song have no source so the mapper can use touhou as source? or it's just a carelessness from QATs.
the mapset itself is quite well, good luck on re-qualifying this, tatoe mix is really funny and interesting lol
The issue brought up by the QAT, however, is that the title he chose is inappropriate for the game. I guess that's up for debate.Quality Assurance Team wrote:
You can decide artist/title freely, but we don't accept the current artist/title. Therefore you need to decide a name that does not misleading.
Topic Starter
Please requalify this map, you're not allowed to use this "Disqualification Notice" anymore.Quality Assurance Team wrote:
Disqualification Notice
Hello!
Unfortunately, the Quality Assurance Team has decided to disqualify this beatmap. The following is a list of reasons and examples for the disqualification. We do not outline every issue in detail, so make sure to take the idea behind each reason and apply it to the entire beatmap as issues might be found in more than the spots mentioned below. If you have any questions, please reply to this post and we will do our best to clarify any misunderstandings.General
Misleading Artist/Title
The current artist/title is really misleading to the player. You can decide artist/title freely, but we don't accept the current artist/title. Therefore you need to decide a name that does not misleading. I'd like to recommend the following example.Unnecessary Source
- Artist: AKINO from bless4 & CHiCO with HoneyWorks
- Title: 海色 & アイのシナリオ
- Romanised Title: MIIRO & Ai no Scenario
Source should be removed because MIIRO and Ai no Scenario are the different anime songs.
MIIRO is "艦隊これくしょん -艦これ-" and Ai no Scenario is "まじっく快斗1412".
If you happen to have concerns about this disqualification, you can contest the decision with this form. Before using this form, please read the instructions carefully.The Beatmap Nominators may handle this mapset after the issues have been addressed.
Good luck!
###B
wtf?
just no
just no
fkin serious? rip my pp!@@!111
always popular map is dq.
My dog cri
always popular map is dq.
My dog cri
Topic Starter
On a serious note though, the map was meant to mislead players. I don't think you were aware of that because you wrote "The current artist/title is really misleading to the players" as if it were a statement you concluded on, when it should be a fact from the beginning. Your recommendations miss the pointQuality Assurance Team wrote:
Disqualification Notice
Hello!
Unfortunately, the Quality Assurance Team has decided to disqualify this beatmap. The following is a list of reasons and examples for the disqualification. We do not outline every issue in detail, so make sure to take the idea behind each reason and apply it to the entire beatmap as issues might be found in more than the spots mentioned below. If you have any questions, please reply to this post and we will do our best to clarify any misunderstandings.General
Misleading Artist/Title
The current artist/title is really misleading to the player. You can decide artist/title freely, but we don't accept the current artist/title. Therefore you need to decide a name that does not misleading. I'd like to recommend the following example.Unnecessary Source
- Artist: AKINO from bless4 & CHiCO with HoneyWorks
- Title: 海色 & アイのシナリオ
- Romanised Title: MIIRO & Ai no Scenario
Source should be removed because MIIRO and Ai no Scenario are the different anime songs.
MIIRO is "艦隊これくしょん -艦これ-" and Ai no Scenario is "まじっく快斗1412".
If you happen to have concerns about this disqualification, you can contest the decision with this form. Before using this form, please read the instructions carefully.The Beatmap Nominators may handle this mapset after the issues have been addressed.
Good luck!
###B
.Talking on #osu.dev with Garven, I will agree that the source could be removed. I will not be changing title/artist though because that's the joke. osu! is also a game, and while players were indeed mislead by the ostensible metadata, the general reception to this Tatoe mix was overwhelmingly positive. People still want to have a laugh too.
Final decision:
Remove Source
Keep Title/Artist
What do you guys think?
i like the idea about mixing the artists instead though..monstrata wrote:
Final decision:
Remove Source
Keep Title/Artist
What do you guys think?
AKINO from bless4 & CHiCO with HoneyWorks - TATOE would actually cover both songs, i find it more suitable if we are talking about not so misleading metadata (if not then feel free to ignore me) and "can decide artist/title freely"
im serious lol
Topic Starter
Well, I poked Asphyxia and his opinion was the same as Garven's. The source is definitely incorrect (which i will change) but title/artist are optional even though it is recommended to change them.
I don't want a mash-up because it loses the surprise element and I still want to throw some fun into this set and leave something for players to laugh at.
I don't want a mash-up because it loses the surprise element and I still want to throw some fun into this set and leave something for players to laugh at.
and this ladies and gentlemen is why you dont play qualified maps.
a mapper decides to be deceptive and kills your pp because this genius system cant update meta data without destroying scores.
ps: i have no sympathy for the people who lost pp. i mean dont farm qualified maps. lol dummies.
a mapper decides to be deceptive and kills your pp because this genius system cant update meta data without destroying scores.
ps: i have no sympathy for the people who lost pp. i mean dont farm qualified maps. lol dummies.
If it's a mashup, you should specifically state this in the title (add "bootleg" or something). You can't just change a song and call it the same name as the original.
You aren't trying to surprise people. you llama. That's not what we're here to do.
Do not qualify this map again until someone has checked with me (after a new title has been decided).
You aren't trying to surprise people. you llama. That's not what we're here to do.
Do not qualify this map again until someone has checked with me (after a new title has been decided).
Topic Starter
Hmm, alright, since peppy disapproves nothing can be done about that lol.peppy wrote:
If it's a mashup, you should specifically state this in the title (add "bootleg" or something). You can't just change a song and call it the same name as the original.
You aren't trying to surprise people. you llama. That's not what we're here to do.
Do not qualify this map again until someone has checked with me (after a new title has been decided).
What about:
Title: MIIRO [Bootleg]
Artist: AKINO from bless4 & CHiCO with HoneyWorks
Source: None
Oh, also, would something like "Artist: Tatoe Squad" be allowed in the case of using a [bootleg] tag. Someone suggested this lol.
I really like this metadata:
Artist: AKINO from bless4 vs. CHiCO with Honeyworks
Tittle: MIIRO vs. Ai no Scenario (Tatoe Sekai)
But I think metadata is fine because This song for joke like case Bad Apple and Baby (Neil Watts map) and Bad Apple and Friday (Sushi map)
Because QAT said &, So i think is fine too (And add mashup in tittle or tags)
EDIT:
Wait, who edit this mp3? So who edit this mp3 so let him/her for decides this metadata! (Like case in HELIX (Edit ver.) By Hollow Wings (but mp3 edit by LKs)
Artist: AKINO from bless4 vs. CHiCO with Honeyworks
Tittle: MIIRO vs. Ai no Scenario (Tatoe Sekai)
But I think metadata is fine because This song for joke like case Bad Apple and Baby (Neil Watts map) and Bad Apple and Friday (Sushi map)
Because QAT said &, So i think is fine too (And add mashup in tittle or tags)
EDIT:
Wait, who edit this mp3? So who edit this mp3 so let him/her for decides this metadata! (Like case in HELIX (Edit ver.) By Hollow Wings (but mp3 edit by LKs)
I like the option someone pointed out a while back, to change the artist title to "monstrata" or any other alias of yourself since it technically is your remix. That'll also allow you to keep the surprise element.
I just do not understand how such a professional team can give the thumbs up for one map that does this thing and a fuck you to another map that does the same because the "rules and standards change everyday." I'd find it kind of offensive in my opinion how they're giving someone else special privileges.
By the way, since Yuii- quit, you can probably rework your hitsounds now if you aren't happy with them.
I just do not understand how such a professional team can give the thumbs up for one map that does this thing and a fuck you to another map that does the same because the "rules and standards change everyday." I'd find it kind of offensive in my opinion how they're giving someone else special privileges.
By the way, since Yuii- quit, you can probably rework your hitsounds now if you aren't happy with them.
monstrata wrote:
What about:
Title: MIIRO [Bootleg]
Artist: AKINO from bless4 & CHiCO with HoneyWorks
Source: None
Since I'm not an English native, I don't know if Bootleg is an appropriate word. If it is, I'd personally say it's much better.
Well, I'm not the one who can make the decision. Take this just as one opinion.
Good luck, monstrata
For remixes, you don't change the artist. You have (xxxx mix) after it.
I think changing the title to the "vs" one works best, too.
I think changing the title to the "vs" one works best, too.
Topic Starter
Bootleg is an english word yes. It would definitely fit in this case.
"A bootleg recording is an audio or video recording of a performance that was not officially released by the artist or under other legal authority."
I'm fine with "MIIRO [Bootleg]". Peppy wanted to see something like that added to the title which is fine by me.
I guess the Artist being "AKINO from bless4 & CHiCO with HoneyWorks" is fine too, but "Tatoe Squad" would be cool, as would "AKINO from bless4 vs. CHiCO with HoneyWorks." I'd prefer one of the latter choices if I was allowed that option.
Thanks for your opinion KSHR!!
I'll try and get this set rolling again some time this week after i rework the hitsounds.
"A bootleg recording is an audio or video recording of a performance that was not officially released by the artist or under other legal authority."
I'm fine with "MIIRO [Bootleg]". Peppy wanted to see something like that added to the title which is fine by me.
I guess the Artist being "AKINO from bless4 & CHiCO with HoneyWorks" is fine too, but "Tatoe Squad" would be cool, as would "AKINO from bless4 vs. CHiCO with HoneyWorks." I'd prefer one of the latter choices if I was allowed that option.
Thanks for your opinion KSHR!!
I'll try and get this set rolling again some time this week after i rework the hitsounds.
Topic Starter
Hmmm Alright. I like the "vs." one too tbh xD. Artist will stay as "&" and not vs. since we can't change the artist(s). Alright, thanks for confirming, peppy!
Title: MIIRO vs. Ai no Scenario
Artist: AKINO from bless4 & CHiCO with HoneyWorks
Title: MIIRO vs. Ai no Scenario
Artist: AKINO from bless4 & CHiCO with HoneyWorks
I like your opinion, monstrata xD
Artist: AKINO from bless4 & CHiCO with Honeyworks
Tittle: MIIRO vs. Ai no Scenario
But about Previewtime, I think is nice if you put in Ai no Scenario and just my ear is problem or not, but why mp3 quality is bad? (Volume is bad to listening)
Artist: AKINO from bless4 & CHiCO with Honeyworks
Tittle: MIIRO vs. Ai no Scenario
But about Previewtime, I think is nice if you put in Ai no Scenario and just my ear is problem or not, but why mp3 quality is bad? (Volume is bad to listening)
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/299000peppy wrote:
If it's a mashup, you should specifically state this in the title (add "bootleg" or something). You can't just change a song and call it the same name as the original.
You aren't trying to surprise people. you llama. That's not what we're here to do.
Do not qualify this map again until someone has checked with me (after a new title has been decided).
Can you explain this then please?
Since this mapset get DQed, I'll tell what I've found.
[Kyshiro's Extra]
00:55:692 -
I know the green line was necessary for SV change, but don't give a different sampleset between the green line and red line.
[Walao's Hyper]
00:56:692 - Unnecessary green line. There's no SV change in the green line so the best way is to remove it.
[Kyshiro's Extra]
00:55:692 -
I know the green line was necessary for SV change, but don't give a different sampleset between the green line and red line.
[Walao's Hyper]
00:56:692 - Unnecessary green line. There's no SV change in the green line so the best way is to remove it.
Thanks xDDBlizs wrote:
Since this mapset get DQed, I'll tell what I've found.
[Walao'sHyperAdvanced :v]
00:56:692 - Unnecessary green line. There's no SV change in the green line so the best way is to remove it.lol..fixed, didnt notice that tbh :v
@monstrata, help me remove it >w<
>DQ Notice ;^)................................. good luck for re-ranking guys
for better artist and title, try this one,AKINO from CHiCO - MIIRO no Tatoe, lol why am i here, bye
for better artist and title, try this one,
that terrible title
Topic Starter
I know ;__; but i still want to rank this set. /cries
Updated metadata and redid the hitsounding. Should be ready now.
Updated metadata and redid the hitsounding. Should be ready now.
Hello monstrata o/
As requested. The current metadata is fine!
Good luck on re-rank :3
As requested. The current metadata is fine!
Good luck on re-rank :3
>AKINO from bless4 & CHiCO with HoneyWorks
lol rip jokes
lol rip jokes
title seems to be approved sooo
dude who the hell caresBlizs wrote:
[Kyshiro's Extra]
00:55:692 -
I know the green line was necessary for SV change, but don't give a different sampleset between the green line and red line.
Loctav cares. And he confirmed this is an unrankable issue.xxdeathx wrote:
dude who the hell cares
Topic Starter
Uhh can we get context on that? Because other QAT's say it's not unrankable and they've given adequate explanations for why red/green line stacking isn't unrankable.
I fixed anyways to avoid d r a m a. But i've always thought they were perfectly rankable just unnecessary (but who the hell cares).
I fixed anyways to avoid d r a m a. But i've always thought they were perfectly rankable just unnecessary (but who the hell cares).
How does osu actually handle it? Does it take the hitsound sample set of the inherited point or the timing point? Maybe it could cause some bugs? I've seen maps where the same thing was done and after mentioning it people realized they weren't using the hitsounds they intended to use, because the editor used the hitsounds of one of the points (usually it's simple things like 70% volume instead of 50%, so they don't always notice it)
I think he has a fair point, worth removing to avoid issues
I think he has a fair point, worth removing to avoid issues
Please don't tell me you're serious. Different samplesets can't be played at the same time, just like when you have different volume values at the same time.xxdeathx wrote:
dude who the hell caresBlizs wrote:
[Kyshiro's Extra]
00:55:692 -
I know the green line was necessary for SV change, but don't give a different sampleset between the green line and red line.
Topic Starter
xxdeathx's point is valid though. stacked red/green lines literally don't matter. Here's an explanation from what I know, a lot of this is just paraphrasing from talking with other QAT's
How red/green lines work is, osu will always prioritize green over red lines. try it with any map. change the red line to soft, and add a green line with Normal sampleset. Osu will make the section Normal and not soft. You can see this with SV changes. Osu will always take the green line value so if theres an SV change between red/green, the section will never be 1.00x SV. Green > Red
The problem is when theres two stacked red lines or two stacked green lines.
Two stacked green lines with different sampleset = osu doesn't known which value to choose so it may take from both, or combine values:
Example, Green Line 1 = 20% volume, sampleset Soft,
Green Line 2 = 50% volume, sampleset Normal,
You may get an output like = 50% volume, sampleset soft. which takes values from both green lines. It's the same idea with red lines. Green line is 1st priority, and red line is 2nd priority. If they are stacked, osu will always take the green line value over the red line value.
Green = Green > Red = Red
I'd like some context as to why this is considered unrankable besides the fact that you heard someone say so. I trust information that i've tested to be true over 2nd hand information xP.
How red/green lines work is, osu will always prioritize green over red lines. try it with any map. change the red line to soft, and add a green line with Normal sampleset. Osu will make the section Normal and not soft. You can see this with SV changes. Osu will always take the green line value so if theres an SV change between red/green, the section will never be 1.00x SV. Green > Red
The problem is when theres two stacked red lines or two stacked green lines.
Two stacked green lines with different sampleset = osu doesn't known which value to choose so it may take from both, or combine values:
Example, Green Line 1 = 20% volume, sampleset Soft,
Green Line 2 = 50% volume, sampleset Normal,
You may get an output like = 50% volume, sampleset soft. which takes values from both green lines. It's the same idea with red lines. Green line is 1st priority, and red line is 2nd priority. If they are stacked, osu will always take the green line value over the red line value.
Green = Green > Red = Red
I'd like some context as to why this is considered unrankable besides the fact that you heard someone say so. I trust information that i've tested to be true over 2nd hand information xP.
rip the title and artist.
We've entered the serious face zone. no fun allowed. I guess this also marks the end of the bad apple trolls.
Maybe you would've had better luck if you tried to rank this around April fools, but who knows, the QAT's whims are ever changing.
We've entered the serious face zone. no fun allowed. I guess this also marks the end of the bad apple trolls.
Maybe you would've had better luck if you tried to rank this around April fools, but who knows, the QAT's whims are ever changing.
I'm sorry ;w;
I don't know if it will be a serious discussion. Actually I don't really know if it unrankable or not. But I post that mod because I read that problem in Ranking Criteria
once again sorry ;w;
I don't know if it will be a serious discussion. Actually I don't really know if it unrankable or not. But I post that mod because I read that problem in Ranking Criteria
There I read that we can put a red line and green line at the same point just for change the SV. I'm just affraid if this amazing meme XD mapset become DQed with this reasonRanking Criteria wrote:
Timing
- No two uninherited or two inherited timing sections should be placed at the same point. An inherited timing section may be placed on an uninherited timing section (but only to change the slider speed). Having two uninherited or two inherited sections on top of each other will cause problems within the beatmap.
once again sorry ;w;
Topic Starter
No worries, thanks for your concerns.
Tbh the ranking criteria wording could be improved. It only mentions "two uninherited sections" and "two inherited sections" causing problems in the map, not an Uninherited and Inherited section. Anyways, i already removed them anyways to avoid drama, we're just discussing the rule, hopefully some context/clarification can be given in the future.
Tbh the ranking criteria wording could be improved. It only mentions "two uninherited sections" and "two inherited sections" causing problems in the map, not an Uninherited and Inherited section. Anyways, i already removed them anyways to avoid drama, we're just discussing the rule, hopefully some context/clarification can be given in the future.
Ranked!
Regratz! MIIRO <3
Topic Starter
Thanks DD
DD
Shohei Ohtani
The next person that fucking says "QAT ruining osu!" is seriously going to make me shit on a child.
I think everyone here knows that I literally am not in support of unwarranted defense of the QAT, as I have a lot of issues with many members of the team. However, shut the fuck up and stop your bitching about "omg QAT ruin game((!!!"
Mostly because, firstly, it's not just QAT that has issues with the metadata. Literally peppy came in and complained about it. Which, while you can go off about how peppy isn't a good player or some other shit, it's worth something when the creator of the game and manager of the entire staff comes in and discusses an issue. But the thing between you guys and peppy is that peppy is giving legitimate reasoning and talking like an adult, and the mapper is defending his points but also willing to make changes because that is the general concensus of what makes better quality maps within multiple teams. And sometimes that may change over time, especially on things that are super subjective and rare like this. And often times that's a byproduct of people viewing things in a different light, sharing those opinions, and convincing others that one side may be better than the other.
If you guys actually want to sort of like, you know, assist in making these rules more consistent, then do that here with legitimate reasoning as to why you feel a rule should be handled a certain way. Is it a relatively slow process that doesn't get instant gratification? A little bit, yeah, but it's still an open forum to have legitimate discussion rather than putting the blame on QATs who are legitimately concerned about issues in the map and are handling it in a sensible and logical way.
It doesn't help your case to be a little whiny bitch in a map thread, especailly when the mapper has been cooperative in adjusting minor things based on what others have said. It's not going to help anything, it's not going to convince anybody to change their opinions, and it's not going to help the betterment of osu!.
I don't give a fuck what this map is called, but I give a fuck about how this community wishes to influence maps and ranking criteria. And right now you guys are literally being babies about it. Learn to take things into your own hands in a productive manner rather than being a bag of shit.
incoming silence but it's worth it since I really am annoyed that people just take to being babies about QAT unranks because of something that actually probably requires legitimate discussion as they're issues we've not really dealt with before that often
also this rant is rushed since someone is literally waiting outside to drive me somewhere soooo
I think everyone here knows that I literally am not in support of unwarranted defense of the QAT, as I have a lot of issues with many members of the team. However, shut the fuck up and stop your bitching about "omg QAT ruin game
((!!!"Mostly because, firstly, it's not just QAT that has issues with the metadata. Literally peppy came in and complained about it. Which, while you can go off about how peppy isn't a good player or some other shit, it's worth something when the creator of the game and manager of the entire staff comes in and discusses an issue. But the thing between you guys and peppy is that peppy is giving legitimate reasoning and talking like an adult, and the mapper is defending his points but also willing to make changes because that is the general concensus of what makes better quality maps within multiple teams. And sometimes that may change over time, especially on things that are super subjective and rare like this. And often times that's a byproduct of people viewing things in a different light, sharing those opinions, and convincing others that one side may be better than the other.
If you guys actually want to sort of like, you know, assist in making these rules more consistent, then do that here with legitimate reasoning as to why you feel a rule should be handled a certain way. Is it a relatively slow process that doesn't get instant gratification? A little bit, yeah, but it's still an open forum to have legitimate discussion rather than putting the blame on QATs who are legitimately concerned about issues in the map and are handling it in a sensible and logical way.
It doesn't help your case to be a little whiny bitch in a map thread, especailly when the mapper has been cooperative in adjusting minor things based on what others have said. It's not going to help anything, it's not going to convince anybody to change their opinions, and it's not going to help the betterment of osu!.
I don't give a fuck what this map is called, but I give a fuck about how this community wishes to influence maps and ranking criteria. And right now you guys are literally being babies about it. Learn to take things into your own hands in a productive manner rather than being a bag of shit.
also this rant is rushed since someone is literally waiting outside to drive me somewhere soooo
Topic Starter
^I'd kd's that if I could. Thanks Reditum!
Yea. It sucks we weren't able to keep the original metadata but lets move on from that.
Yes yes, there are exceptions, but not everyone has the time to check every map with "misleading metadata", especially not someone like peppy.
Anyways lets see how this goes.
Yea. It sucks we weren't able to keep the original metadata but lets move on from that.
Yes yes, there are exceptions, but not everyone has the time to check every map with "misleading metadata", especially not someone like peppy.
Anyways lets see how this goes
.Congraulation to the reranking. @TatoeforPresident
Congrats!!
Hope it doesn't get DQ again :p
Congratz everyone!
Glad the meta data is "correct" now, otherwise even more people will use this as an example when they want to use the wrong meta-data, though I still feel like people will use that bad apple map now. Creating precedents is dangerous.
Glad the meta data is "correct" now, otherwise even more people will use this as an example when they want to use the wrong meta-data, though I still feel like people will use that bad apple map now. Creating precedents is dangerous.
Re-congrats Monstrata and everyone!
Re-gratz monstrata
Gratz!
Also, nice post Reditum!
Also, nice post Reditum!
Regratzz~
You should use lossless source for editing, converting lossy format to lossy format (mp3) results in very crappy sound. It is very noticeable even without headphones.