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LeaF - Chronostasis [Taiko]

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DakeDekaane
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on sábado, 25 de julio de 2015 at 02:21:50 p. m.

Artist: LeaF
Title: Chronostasis
Tags: Unisphere Cyberland Chrono Core
BPM: 190
Filesize: 4473kb
Play Time: 02:11
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2.53 stars, 344 notes)
  2. Inner Oni (5.88 stars, 902 notes)
  3. Kantan (1.58 stars, 207 notes)
  4. Muzukashii (3.69 stars, 530 notes)
  5. Oni (4.49 stars, 751 notes)
Download: LeaF - Chronostasis
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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~ Boss Alert ~

So I had a mapping rampage while I was mapping this song.

~ 28th mapset, enjoy ~

Download with [I]MMoRTal[S]'s diff

Dake's LeaF series
Ranked
  1. Chronostasis
  2. Kyouki Ranbu
  3. Heterochromia Iridis
  4. Poison AND/OR Affection
  5. Calamity Fortune
Unranked:
  1. Resurrection Spell (experimental, very high SV)
  2. Musical Movement (poo, may remap later)
  3. NANO DEATH!!!!! (kinda gimmickish)
  4. Go Beyond!! 100->200->400 (unrankable-ish)
  5. Evanescent (experimental, early SV gimmicks)
  6. Arianrhod (experimental, 1/8 patterns)
  7. I (needs refinement)
  8. ATHAZA(needs refinement)
List of lovely people
Nardoxyribonucleic
bananannian
Razorflamekun
MMzz
Lost The Lights
Aldwych
Backfire
goatlife
Nwolf



Cool links
Album: http://unisp.web.fc2.com/unsp0002.html
Label's site: http://unisp.web.fc2.com/
Licensing info (CC BY-NC 4.0): http://unisp.web.fc2.com/about.html | http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/4.0/legalcode
LeaF's SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/leaf-7
Lost The Lights
Ese momento en el que tenes el spread en escalera, pero con la dificultad 1 mas alta... (Me refiero, Kantan con simbolo de Normal, Futsuu con Hard, Muzukashii con Insane y Oni con Expert).

NERF DAKE ONI!

Star cuz Dake Oni.
wasonz
:P My Guest Diff sir
Note 999
OD 6
HP 6
Star 6.00

@Dakedekaane - i can't make 1234 note with 5.67 star sorry :P
Topic Starter
DakeDekaane
Revived and did some stuff to "improve" spread
Renamed Oni -> Ura Oni - 900 notes
*new* Oni - 750 notes
Muzukashii - 600 -> 530 notes
Futsuu - 400 -> 380 notes
Kantan - 250 -> 240 notes

Mod pls.
Nardoxyribonucleic
Hi Dake, here comes a taiko mod as requested through IRC.

  • [Kantan]
  1. 00:40:749 (74,75,76) - I think 1/2 notes should be rarely used in Kantan, otherwise it would be Futsuu-like. As the BPM of the song is high, consider deleting 00:40:907 (75) - and change 00:41:065 (76) - to D for simplicity ?
  2. 00:45:486 (82,83,84,85) - similar to ^ , try deleting 00:45:960 (84) - and make 00:46:117 (85) - the only K for emphasis ?
  3. 01:15:170 (138) - K could be used for the stressed sound there.
  4. 01:15:960 (141) - consider deleting this note to make the pattern easier for Kantan players ? I'm sure that kk kk in 1/2 is a pattern for Futsuu.
  5. 01:37:591 (9) - k here and delete 01:37:749 (10) - ? Similar reason as 00:40:749 (74,75,76) - , the 1/2 ddd pattern would be good in Futsuu.
  6. 01:47:696 (29,30) - same as ^
  • [Futsuu]
  1. 00:11:854 (3,6) - consider deleting these notes ? I know you are following the background piano there, but ddk ddk ddD in 1/2 is in fact a bit dense for Futsuu.
  2. 00:14:381 (14,17) - ^
  3. 00:18:170 (31) - ^
  4. 00:20:696 (42) - ^
  5. 00:40:749 (117,118,119) - similar to Kantan, I think 00:40:907 (118) - could be deleted and finish could be added at 00:41:065 (119) - to emphasize the stop of music in a way better.
  6. 01:15:170 (32) - same as Kantan
  7. From 01:58:749 to 02:02:223 - The difficulty jump is too great when compared to the same part in Kantan: I would suggest deleting 01:58:907 (72,78,86) - to crack the 1/2 notes a bit.

    In general, the use of 1/2 notes could be reduced so that it would be more suitable for lower players. Currently it looks like an easy Muzukashii.
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:12:170 (5,6,7) - As the BPM of the long is high, consider changing it to ddd or kkk for simplicity ?
  2. 00:14:696 (17,18,19) - ^
  3. 00:24:960 (67) - maybe d here for a more consistent hitsounding ?
  4. 00:48:328 (172,174) - consider swapping these notes to d k ? This could follow the pitch of the piano in a way better.
  5. 00:48:960 (175) - d would sound better if you change ^
  6. 01:09:170 (269) - k could fit both the pitch increase and the snare there.
  7. 01:17:854 (306,307,308) - Again, the ddk triplets in this part would be a bit hard for Muzukashii due to the high BPM. But you may keep them since the sound at 01:18:012 (308) - is really high-pitched compared to 01:17:854 (306,307) -
  8. 01:18:328 (309) - consider removing the finish here ? It has the same sound as 01:19:591 (316) - where you used d there.
  • [Oni]
  1. 00:39:170 (192) - k would be better since the pitch is higher than 00:39:012 (191) - and it has the same cymbal sound as the previous 00:38:854 (190,191) -
  2. 00:44:223 (228) - ^
  3. 00:48:328 (254,256) - same as Muzukashii
  4. 00:52:907 (273,274,275,276) - try dkk k ? This could follow the piano pitch nicely imo.
  5. 01:14:065 (391) - maybe k for pattern consistency as 01:09:012 (366) - ?
  6. 01:15:170 (397) - I think you may have missed the finish here ?
  7. 01:26:223 (470) - ^
  8. 01:30:802 (485,486) - d k would be better since this could make a contrast to 01:29:696 (477,478,479,480) -
  • [Ura Oni]
  1. 00:39:170 (209) - same as Oni
  2. 00:48:328 (274,276) - same as Muzukashii
  3. 00:48:960 (277) - maybe d as you did in Oni ?
  4. 00:52:907 (294,295,296,297) - same as Oni

    A really nice Ura Oni here.
That's all and good luck~ :D
Topic Starter
DakeDekaane

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hi Dake, here comes a taiko mod as requested through IRC.

  • [Kantan]
  1. 00:40:749 (74,75,76) - I think 1/2 notes should be rarely used in Kantan, otherwise it would be Futsuu-like. As the BPM of the song is high, consider deleting 00:40:907 (75) - and change 00:41:065 (76) - to D for simplicity ? /*I'd want to keep those, as it emphasize nicely the music, a 1/1 pattern wouldn't emphasize it the same.
  2. 00:45:486 (82,83,84,85) - similar to ^ , try deleting 00:45:960 (84) - and make 00:46:117 (85) - the only K for emphasis ? /*Same, but removed the finishers there.
  3. 01:15:170 (138) - K could be used for the stressed sound there. /*It's not really that strong compared with my other big notes.
  4. 01:15:960 (141) - consider deleting this note to make the pattern easier for Kantan players ? I'm sure that kk kk in 1/2 is a pattern for Futsuu. /*Replaced with a spinner, tried with a 3/2 pattern but sounds awful.
  5. 01:37:591 (9) - k here and delete 01:37:749 (10) - ? Similar reason as 00:40:749 (74,75,76) - , the 1/2 ddd pattern would be good in Futsuu. /*Same as in the first 1/2 ddd patterns.
  6. 01:47:696 (29,30) - same as ^ /*Ditto,
  • [Futsuu]
  1. 00:11:854 (3,6) - consider deleting these notes ? I know you are following the background piano there, but ddk ddk ddD in 1/2 is in fact a bit dense for Futsuu. /*Removed 00:12:960 (8,9) - to create a 2/1 break after this pattern.
  2. 00:14:381 (14,17) - ^ /*Similar.
  3. 00:18:170 (31) - ^ /*Similar.
  4. 00:20:696 (42) - ^ /*Similar.
  5. 00:40:749 (117,118,119) - similar to Kantan, I think 00:40:907 (118) - could be deleted and finish could be added at 00:41:065 (119) - to emphasize the stop of music in a way better. /*The kat there is enough to emphasize that beat, as I used only dons before :P
  6. 01:15:170 (32) - same as Kantan /*Same as there.
  7. From 01:58:749 to 02:02:223 - The difficulty jump is too great when compared to the same part in Kantan: I would suggest deleting 01:58:907 (72,78,86) - to crack the 1/2 notes a bit. /*Did something similar, and also made a bit simpler patterns (this part so hard to simplify appropriately lol)

    In general, the use of 1/2 notes could be reduced so that it would be more suitable for lower players. Currently it looks like an easy Muzukashii. /*Well, this is structured as a hard Futsuu (as well as the rest of the spread), but simplified a bit some patterns that were a bit too hard.
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:12:170 (5,6,7) - As the BPM of the long is high, consider changing it to ddd or kkk for simplicity ? /*I'd like to keep these, as the piano has a higher tone in 00:12:328, kkk would reduce the emphasis here.
  2. 00:14:696 (17,18,19) - ^ /*Ditto
  3. 00:24:960 (67) - maybe d here for a more consistent hitsounding ? /*Okay
  4. 00:48:328 (172,174) - consider swapping these notes to d k ? This could follow the pitch of the piano in a way better. /*Leaving as k k d, the pattern is easier, and still not sounds bad, as 00:48:960 (175,176) - should have a higher emphasis, given by the color change in 00:48:644 (174,175,176) -
  5. 00:48:960 (175) - d would sound better if you change ^ /*Same reason
  6. 01:09:170 (269) - k could fit both the pitch increase and the snare there. /*Keeping this as I'm focusing more on the piano sound.
  7. 01:17:854 (306,307,308) - Again, the ddk triplets in this part would be a bit hard for Muzukashii due to the high BPM. But you may keep them since the sound at 01:18:012 (308) - is really high-pitched compared to 01:17:854 (306,307) - /*Yes, I was actually doing them like that for the high tone there.
  8. 01:18:328 (309) - consider removing the finish here ? It has the same sound as 01:19:591 (316) - where you used d there. /*Right, done.
  • [Oni]
  1. 00:39:170 (192) - k would be better since the pitch is higher than 00:39:012 (191) - and it has the same cymbal sound as the previous 00:38:854 (190,191) - /*Keeping as don to mark better the change between sections.
  2. 00:44:223 (228) - ^ /*Same
  3. 00:48:328 (254,256) - same as Muzukashii /*Done here.
  4. 00:52:907 (273,274,275,276) - try dkk k ? This could follow the piano pitch nicely imo. /*Done
  5. 01:14:065 (391) - maybe k for pattern consistency as 01:09:012 (366) - ? /*Okay
  6. 01:15:170 (397) - I think you may have missed the finish here ? /*Considering I didn't map 01:15:802 - mapping 397 as a big note would feel weird as that music pattern is incomplete
  7. 01:26:223 (470) - ^ /*Oops
  8. 01:30:802 (485,486) - d k would be better since this could make a contrast to 01:29:696 (477,478,479,480) - /*Yup, done.
  • [Ura Oni]
  1. 00:39:170 (209) - same as Oni /*Same.
  2. 00:48:328 (274,276) - same as Muzukashii /*Want to keep as this, to make both difficulties different, as they're the same rhythmically.
  3. 00:48:960 (277) - maybe d as you did in Oni ? /*Same
  4. 00:52:907 (294,295,296,297) - same as Oni /*Same

    A really nice Ura Oni here.
That's all and good luck~ :D
Thanks for the mod Nardo, I really appreciate the help here :3
bananannian
Hi! From my forum NM/M4M taiko queue.
I am pretty thorough, so don't be annoyed if I point out a lot of issues. A lot of times they are just my opinions, so feel free to object to them. :3

I look at mainly composing: how you map the music. Not just the drums; the vocals, background synth, the symphonic backing, the pauses; everything. But especially vocals.
I also look at pattern repetition and consistency, and how you fit in your 1/4 runs.

(Note: If I tell you your Oni isn’t hard enough, that’s just my masochist side speaking, you can most definitely ignore if you wish. ^.^ )

d = don
k = katsu
D = big don
K = big katsu

[General]
Solid beatmap. Nice mapping, especially the Onis.

Sorry, Ura Oni is beyond my understanding of mapping/modding. ^.^ After all I am still new to Taiko. Sounds and looks great though.

[Kantan]
Very nice Kantan.
00:51:802 - personally for this segment I would change 00:53:065 (85,86) to k and add a d at 00:56:223 to mirror the previous segment, but up to you.
01:21:802 - add k to lead in the D at 01:22:117 (13)
02:02:539 (59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66) - personally I would change this to dddDkkkK, to emphasize the last note, up to you again.
02:10:433 (9) - replace this spinner with a slider of the same length?

[Futsuu]
00:18:960 (28) - the same pattern here is repeated 4 times in a row, which might be a bit monotonous for the player. Change this to k, since there's a background chimes like synth for this measure.
00:30:644 (68,69,70) - change this to kdk would mirror 00:26:854 (53,54,55) , since 00:29:381 (63,64,65) is mirroring 00:28:117 (58,59,60)
00:35:381 (87,88,89) - ^
00:39:012 - add k, match synth entry
00:44:065 - ^
01:15:486 (30,31,32,33) - change to kd kd to match synth (or kd dk if you want the offbeat to be k)
01:21:960 - add k, match synth as well as lead in to 01:22:117 (52) , as opposed to having an abrupt break for the other k's in this section.
01:26:854 (67) - maybe change to k?
01:51:802 (54,55) - maybe change to K k, would break the repetitive d's
02:02:539 (87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94) - see Kantan
02:10:433 (1) - see Kantan

[Muzukashii]
00:24:012 - This part seems a bit strange and inconsistent with previous pattern. Change to this?

00:35:539 - add d, match bass drum kick
00:40:749 (142) - change to k, match previous triplet
00:58:433 (215) - change to d, drums here is a muffled kick, not snares
01:01:354 (230) - move to 01:01:433 to match snares
01:01:591 (231) - move to 01:01:749 to match snares
01:04:670 (247,248,249,250) - these should all be moved 1/4 backwards to match snares
01:22:117 to 01:24:644 - I would prefer these patterns to not be exactly the same as 01:17:065 to 01:19:591 , suggest recomposing.
01:48:644 (83,84) - change to d, bass drum is pretty loud here and should imo be mapped.
01:49:907 (90) - ^
02:05:381 (160,161) - maybe change to d d, to match pitch
02:10:433 (1) - see Kantan

[Oni]
00:22:749 (80,85) - I prefer these as k instead of d, it's a high pitched synth overall
00:26:223 (101) - ^
00:27:486 (109) - change to k would match synth
00:32:539 (143) - ^
00:39:170 (192) - really am not sure what you're mapping here... I would do this:

01:05:933 - add d here would match drums BUT would make this a 7plet. Your choice!
01:19:512 - add k, match synth
01:51:170 - really don't like the monotonous d here (of course if you have a valid reason I'm all ears)
02:09:960 (24) - change to k, match synth pitch increase
02:10:433 (1) - see Kantan
[]

And also, after looking through my mod, would you mind taking the time to check out my taiko set? <3

There you go! Intense song 8-) Hope you find this mod helpful, and good luck beatmapping!
Topic Starter
DakeDekaane

bananannian wrote:

Hi! From my forum NM/M4M taiko queue.
I am pretty thorough, so don't be annoyed if I point out a lot of issues. A lot of times they are just my opinions, so feel free to object to them. :3

I look at mainly composing: how you map the music. Not just the drums; the vocals, background synth, the symphonic backing, the pauses; everything. But especially vocals.
I also look at pattern repetition and consistency, and how you fit in your 1/4 runs.

(Note: If I tell you your Oni isn’t hard enough, that’s just my masochist side speaking, you can most definitely ignore if you wish. ^.^ )

d = don
k = katsu
D = big don
K = big katsu

[General]
Solid beatmap. Nice mapping, especially the Onis.

Sorry, Ura Oni is beyond my understanding of mapping/modding. ^.^ After all I am still new to Taiko. Sounds and looks great though. /*Don't worry.

[Kantan]
Very nice Kantan. /*Thanks.
00:51:802 - personally for this segment I would change 00:53:065 (85,86) to k and add a d at 00:56:223 to mirror the previous segment, but up to you. /*I'd do it if the piano was similar there, but it isn't.
01:21:802 - add k to lead in the D at 01:22:117 (13) /*Okay
02:02:539 (59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66) - personally I would change this to dddDkkkK, to emphasize the last note, up to you again. /*I find one being big note but not the rest a bit weird, as all the notes have the same intensity.
02:10:433 (9) - replace this spinner with a slider of the same length? /*The "noise" here isn't regular 1/4, which isn't very fitting considering how sliders play in osu!taiko

[Futsuu]
00:18:960 (28) - the same pattern here is repeated 4 times in a row, which might be a bit monotonous for the player. Change this to k, since there's a background chimes like synth for this measure. /*Did something here.
00:30:644 (68,69,70) - change this to kdk would mirror 00:26:854 (53,54,55) , since 00:29:381 (63,64,65) is mirroring 00:28:117 (58,59,60) /*It sounds a bit weird, I'd like to keep ddk k to make the kats more unique, emphasizing the synth better in those notes.
00:35:381 (87,88,89) - ^ /*^
00:39:012 - add k, match synth entry /*That'd increase a bit the difficulty, and reasoning will be explained in Muzukashii
00:44:065 - ^ /*^
01:15:486 (30,31,32,33) - change to kd kd to match synth (or kd dk if you want the offbeat to be k) /*dk dk matches better the synth as it goes up (at least for me, it doesn't sound bad, though.)
01:21:960 - add k, match synth as well as lead in to 01:22:117 (52) , as opposed to having an abrupt break for the other k's in this section. /*I'd want to leave this space to not be too evil (this is still a "normal" difficulty).
01:26:854 (67) - maybe change to k? /*did 1/2 DDK instead the color change feels better being in the end.
01:51:802 (54,55) - maybe change to K k, would break the repetitive d's /*I'd want to keep this as the background percusions are all the same.
02:02:539 (87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94) - see Kantan /*Same
02:10:433 (1) - see Kantan /*Same

[Muzukashii]
00:24:012 - This part seems a bit strange and inconsistent with previous pattern. Change to this? /*Just made the dkdkdkd, I want to keep the buzzy sound empty in this diff

00:35:539 - add d, match bass drum kick /*Okay.
00:40:749 (142) - change to k, match previous triplet /*Okay.
00:58:433 (215) - change to d, drums here is a muffled kick, not snares /*Okay.
01:01:354 (230) - move to 01:01:433 to match snares /*Looks like it'll be a bit harder but okay.
01:01:591 (231) - move to 01:01:749 to match snares /*^
01:04:670 (247,248,249,250) - these should all be moved 1/4 backwards to match snares
01:22:117 to 01:24:644 - I would prefer these patterns to not be exactly the same as 01:17:065 to 01:19:591 , suggest recomposing. /*Made some small changes
01:48:644 (83,84) - change to d, bass drum is pretty loud here and should imo be mapped. /*This difficulty is already in the top limit of hard (in osu!taiko standards) kkd d wouldn't be a big problem for me, but I rather do kkk d.
01:49:907 (90) - ^ /*^Similar
02:05:381 (160,161) - maybe change to d d, to match pitch /*Replaced this part with the spinner next, somehow I didn't like how this played.
02:10:433 (1) - see Kantan /*Same

[Oni]
00:22:749 (80,85) - I prefer these as k instead of d, it's a high pitched synth overall /*Sure, done.
00:26:223 (101) - ^ /*^
00:27:486 (109) - change to k would match synth /*^
00:32:539 (143) - ^ /*Keeping this, as it'd be very similar to Ura
00:39:170 (192) - really am not sure what you're mapping here... I would do this: /*Swapped 00:39:960 (197,198) - k d -> d k

01:05:933 - add d here would match drums BUT would make this a 7plet. Your choice! /*Why not
01:19:512 - add k, match synth /*The synth here goes 1/6+1/4, I want to keep the 1/4 to make the difference notable.
01:51:170 - really don't like the monotonous d here (of course if you have a valid reason I'm all ears) /*tbh I just put dons because I like don patterns, I see them fitting with the background drums.
02:09:960 (24) - change to k, match synth pitch increase /*Done*
02:10:433 (1) - see Kantan /*Same
[]

And also, after looking through my mod, would you mind taking the time to check out my taiko set? <3

There you go! Intense song 8-) Hope you find this mod helpful, and good luck beatmapping!
Thanks a lot for the mod, really detailed and just what I needed. I appreciate the help (expect a surprise soon?).
Razorflamekun
Random mod :)

General:

Change HP and OD to 3 on Kantan.
Change HP and OD to 7 on Ura Oni.

Kantan:

Overall, a really fun difficulty to play, but there's this one glaring issue:

01:38:539 - Don't stop the Kiai segment here. Make it go into the next Kiai segment. Voltage of the song continues during this section of the song and there is no reason to stop the Kiai segment here.

A suggestion: This song is very conducive to SVs...consider adding some in not only this difficulty, but every difficulty.

Futsuu:

Again, a really fun difficulty to play, same glaring issue as Kantan:

01:38:539 - Don't stop the Kiai segment here. Make it go into the next Kiai segment. Voltage of the song continues during this section of the song and there is no reason to stop the Kiai segment here.

A suggestion: This song is very conducive to SVs...consider adding some in not only this difficulty, but every difficulty.

Would you be willing to allow me to do another Taiko difficulty as a GD by chance? I know you already have a full spread, but I really love the song and would love to map another Taiko difficulty if you're willing to let me try :)

Thanks! A star for this set and I hope this helps :)
Topic Starter
DakeDekaane
Thanks for checking, I'll only change OD in Kantan, as I forgot to change before. I may change Ura to OD7, but I always use the same settings for Oni/Ura Oni.
About the kiai, I stopped the kiai there to get a new fountain in 01:43:591 - .
I'm not going to add SV changes here, this song doesn't call me to put any, as the intensity is relatively constant.

About the GD, feel free to do it, but I'll let you know I won't add it, as I want to have this as a solo set. (I'll add it on Creator Word, like [I]MMoRTal[S]'s.)
Lost The Lights
Ola k ase.

d=don
k=kat
D=Big Don
K=Big Kat
r=remove
(?)=Suggestion.

[General]
Widescreen support. No tengo nada mas que decir hu3.

[Kantan]
  1. 00:39:170 (63,64,65) - Tal vez kdk o dkd, la música da para eso, no se.
  2. Si cambias lo de arriba: 00:44:223 (72,73,74) - Acá podes poner el contrario del que hayas puesto. (Si pusiste kdk pones dkd y si pusiste dkd pones kdk.
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:56:854 (154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167) - No entiendo mucho el ritmo de este pattern. Fíjate si podes hacerlo mejor, si no podes, avísame ingame y veo si te puedo dar un pattern que te guste.
  2. 01:33:486 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Por qué los dejaste todos como d aca? Esto da para un k d k d k d k.
  3. 01:43:591 (29,30,31,32,33,34,35) - Lo mismo de arriba.
Vos y tus Futzuukashiis (?

[Muzukashii]
  1. 01:07:275 - 01:08:539 - 01:09:802 - 01:12:328 - 01:13:591 - En estos 5 lugares yo pondría un k, queda muy vacío a mi parecer.
  2. 01:27:170 (360) - Un Finisher acá estaría bueno.
  3. 01:38:539 - Te fuiste al carajo, dejame decirte xD. Borrale la 4ta nota a todos los 5-plets, no va a ser tan difícil y el ritmo va a ser mas o menos igual.
Te diría que intentes nerfear un poco la diff, pero el spread se te iría a la mierda.

[Oni]
  1. 00:11:381 - Este inicio suena mucho mejor que el que tenes actualmente. ALTAMENTE recomiendo poner este pattern.
  2. 00:13:907 - Lo mismo de arriba.
  3. 00:22:749 (80,85,101) - Les podrías poner un Finisher o cambiar la nota anterior de cada una a d para que se resalte más ese sonido que hay de fondo.
  4. 00:27:328 (107,108,109) - Este triplet no debería ser ddk?
  5. 00:29:854 (124,125,126) - Para variar un poco, en vez de hacer este ddk podes hacerlo kkd y va a sonar bien.
  6. 00:32:381 (141,142,143,158,159,160) - Lo mismo que los dos puntos de arriba.
  7. 01:07:433 - 01:09:960 - 01:12:486 - Creo que un d en estos tres lugares sería lo mejor para seguir bien el ritmo, es un poco confuso atm.
  8. 01:26:854 (472,473,474,475,476) - Seria mucho mejor si el stream fuera kkddk en vez de kkkdk.
  9. 01:38:539 - Esto que te voy a decir es solo una sugerencia: Prueba esto, por ahí te gusta y no la haces tan complicada.
[Ura Oni]
  1. 00:22:749 (89,94,113) - Aca te tengo que obligar a poner los Finishers, es una Ura Oni, van a quedar muy bien. (Btw cambia 113 a k)
  2. 00:31:591 (148) - Hay sonido para un Finisher.
  3. 00:36:644 (188) - Creo que este como D sería mucho más jugable, además que pega más con la música.
  4. 00:37:354 (194) - k suena mejor x_x
  5. 00:42:407 (232) - Lo mismo de arriba.
  6. 00:48:328 (274,275,276) - kdk, en la Oni lo hiciste así y suena mejor, la verdad.
  7. 01:26:854 (562,563,564,565,566) - Lo mismo que te dije en la Oni, va a ser mucho mejor para jugar y se va a escuchar mejor si lo haces kkddk.
  8. 01:30:960 (579) - k? Suena un poquito mejor.
  9. 02:07:749 (13,14,25,26) - dk ambos please.
Eso es todo, Ya sabes que me encanta este map y espero que lo rankees pronto <3
Topic Starter
DakeDekaane

Lost The Lights wrote:

Ola k ase.

d=don
k=kat
D=Big Don
K=Big Kat
r=remove
(?)=Suggestion.

[General]
Widescreen support. No tengo nada mas que decir hu3. /*aaaaaaaa

[Kantan]
  1. 00:39:170 (63,64,65) - Tal vez kdk o dkd, la música da para eso, no se. /*Me gusta como suena siendo una sección solo con dons y otra solo con kats :<
  2. Si cambias lo de arriba: 00:44:223 (72,73,74) - Acá podes poner el contrario del que hayas puesto. (Si pusiste kdk pones dkd y si pusiste dkd pones kdk. /*^
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:56:854 (154,155,156,157,158,159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166,167) - No entiendo mucho el ritmo de este pattern. Fíjate si podes hacerlo mejor, si no podes, avísame ingame y veo si te puedo dar un pattern que te guste. /*Hice algo acá
  2. 01:33:486 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Por qué los dejaste todos como d aca? Esto da para un k d k d k d k. /*Considerando que el beat es constante, queda mejor todo como dons (y tampoco quiero exceder tanto la dificultad).
  3. 01:43:591 (29,30,31,32,33,34,35) - Lo mismo de arriba. /*^
Vos y tus Futzuukashiis (?

[Muzukashii]
  1. 01:07:275 - 01:08:539 - 01:09:802 - 01:12:328 - 01:13:591 - En estos 5 lugares yo pondría un k, queda muy vacío a mi parecer. /*No los pondría, ya que a pesar que se siente vacío, lo dos dons al inicio del pattern dejan seguir limpiamente ese sonido que no se como se llama.
  2. 01:27:170 (360) - Un Finisher acá estaría bueno. /*Okay
  3. 01:38:539 - Te fuiste al carajo, dejame decirte xD. Borrale la 4ta nota a todos los 5-plets, no va a ser tan difícil y el ritmo va a ser mas o menos igual. /*Si borro esto el spread se va a la mierda, ya que en el Oni tengo streamzz
Te diría que intentes nerfear un poco la diff, pero el spread se te iría a la mierda. /*Hice el Futsuu más díficil 8-)

[Oni]
  1. 00:11:381 - Este inicio suena mucho mejor que el que tenes actualmente. ALTAMENTE recomiendo poner este pattern. /*Es lo mismo que el Ura, pero sin el ddkdk :( aunque cambié los kkk por kdk
  2. 00:13:907 - Lo mismo de arriba. /*^
  3. 00:22:749 (80,85,101) - Les podrías poner un Finisher o cambiar la nota anterior de cada una a d para que se resalte más ese sonido que hay de fondo. /*Okay (no me mates por no hacerlo en el Ura también).
  4. 00:27:328 (107,108,109) - Este triplet no debería ser ddk? /*Podría, pero no, esta parte es ritmicamente similar al Ura, solo hice patrones más simples.
  5. 00:29:854 (124,125,126) - Para variar un poco, en vez de hacer este ddk podes hacerlo kkd y va a sonar bien. /*Pero el tono es mayor en el final :<
  6. 00:32:381 (141,142,143,158,159,160) - Lo mismo que los dos puntos de arriba. /*Ditto
  7. 01:07:433 - 01:09:960 - 01:12:486 - Creo que un d en estos tres lugares sería lo mejor para seguir bien el ritmo, es un poco confuso atm. /*Lo dejaré así por el momento, puede ser algo confuso, pero representa bien como van los beats en la música.
  8. 01:26:854 (472,473,474,475,476) - Seria mucho mejor si el stream fuera kkddk en vez de kkkdk. /*Ura
  9. 01:38:539 - Esto que te voy a decir es solo una sugerencia: Prueba esto, por ahí te gusta y no la haces tan complicada. /*Me gusta como suena, pero no dejaría que los beats de 01:39:012 (542,548,554,560) - se den a notar más como lo hacen ahorita estando aislados.


[Ura Oni]
  1. 00:22:749 (89,94,113) - Aca te tengo que obligar a poner los Finishers, es una Ura Oni, van a quedar muy bien. (Btw cambia 113 a k) /*No voy a poner finishes, el cambio de colo es suficiente para enfatizar ese beat, que no es tan fuerte.
  2. 00:31:591 (148) - Hay sonido para un Finisher. /*Considerando que estoy mapeando sobre el sintetizador, y ese no tiene un sonido que amerite una nota grande, lo dejo así.
  3. 00:36:644 (188) - Creo que este como D sería mucho más jugable, además que pega más con la música. /*Okay.
  4. 00:37:354 (194) - k suena mejor x_x /*Este lo dejaré como don, tenemos el mismo patrón en 00:38:775 (206,207,208) - , el cual es más fuerte y lo tengo mapeado como dk k, teniendo lo dos iguales no dejaría que este último se escuche "único"
  5. 00:42:407 (232) - Lo mismo de arriba. /*^
  6. 00:48:328 (274,275,276) - kdk, en la Oni lo hiciste así y suena mejor, la verdad. /*Okay.
  7. 01:26:854 (562,563,564,565,566) - Lo mismo que te dije en la Oni, va a ser mucho mejor para jugar y se va a escuchar mejor si lo haces kkddk. /*Se podría jugar mejor como kkddk, pero si escuchas como va esa parte, kkkdk lo complementa mejor.
  8. 01:30:960 (579) - k? Suena un poquito mejor. /*Okay.
  9. 02:07:749 (13,14,25,26) - dk ambos please.
Eso es todo, Ya sabes que me encanta este map y espero que lo rankees pronto <3
Gracias <3
Aldwych
[General]

You should decrease kantan's HP drain by 1 in order to make 3-4-5-6.
And the Ura Oni can be increase by 1 for both OD and HP, having the same difficutly for Oni and Ura should't be a good choice.

[Kantan]

Well i'm not fan of the 5 1/1 in a row for a kantan, the idea is to delete some notes to make 3 1/1 in a row without changing too much the mapping style.
On this following notes :
- 00:14:223
- 00:16:749
- 00:19:275

But also the problem i find by deleting this is the spread with futsuu because on the same time you're using triple 1/2 pattern which will result in a disorder, so it's up to you since your diff are harder than the classics one (regarding on the star rating).

00:25:275 : Here you have some trouble since you didn't put a note on the muzukashii diff. So maybe choose between delete on futsuu or add on muzukashii
00:26:539 + : these kind of patterns should be ddk, but i can understand that if you do this, it'll result in a repetitive part but because it's a kantan diff, is it a problem, maybe not.

00:56:854 : I felt weird when i saw this part, because there's only k notes, and in muzukashi+, you didn't, maybe changing some k to d would be a good choice. On this following notes :
- 00:57:802
- 00:59:696
- 01:00:328
- 01:02:223
- 01:02:854
- 01:04:749
-01:05:065
-01:05:381

The idea here is first of make make the part more consitent with the muzu+ ones (i'll do the same for futsuu eh), and to make the piano and the battery more distinct, and not a full combo of k which is boring.

01:17:381 - 01:18:644 - 01:19:907 : Theses notes diserved to be k, they're higher compared to the others.

01:37:591 : I advise you to swap it to triple k, you did on futsuu, and on the other diff, it's massively k notes here too.
01:42:664 : On the other 3 1/1 in a row you did dkd, you should changing this to k in order to make the combo more consistent.
01:52:433 : Maybe change this one to k.

01:58:749+ : This part is quite intense for a kantan, maybe delete these folowing notes ?
- 01:59:696
- 02:00:960
- 02:02:223

[Futsuu]

00:26:579 : Here's you're changing the playstyle and the patterns in comparison with the previous part. Maybe consider making a pause by delting the 3 previous note (or less if you prefer)?
00:39:484+ : Strangely i'd rather see dkd pattern here.

00:57:382 : So same as kantan.
Note :
- 154 = 00:56:854
- I've also modifed the first pattern in order to fit better with the piano and be more consistent with the next pattern.

01:37:907 : YOu should change it to d, the sound is different, so the pattern deserve to be too.
01:39:170 : I'd rather see a k here, the next patter will be easier to read.
01:40:433 : And here a d to make a contrast the previous pattern.
01:48:012 : Same a 01:37:907.
01:58:749 : Strangly if it was me, i would map this pater on the other side, i mean 02:02:539+ should the part with 1/2.

02:06:328 : Imo, this part should be map like : d dk dk kd kdk kd dk. This is more conistent with the music.

[Muzukashii]

00:25:275 : see futsuu notes.
00:25:907 : This should bee dkk since on the previous parts the last one sounds k on your patterns.
00:26:854+ : about this part i'm a bit confuse on how you put your d and your k, and i felt weird so in my opinion this is how you should do your patterns, on the following ones :
- 00:26:854 : On this kind of pattern this should be dkk kkk , on this pattern the k are used on the higher sounds, plus the k and d are more visible and so more intuitive.
- 00:28:117 : On this one, this should be dkk, the music is repetitive so the pattern has to be a little consistent and legit so this one is a bit similar to the previous on without the triple k.
- 00:30:664 : And this one, dkkdk, this one is similar to the previous one except you added a note, so this have to a d in order to make soundly more visible the next k, but because it's not consistent with the main pattern of this part, i advise you to delete the fourth note.

Here is the final example :
note : circle n° 84 = 00:28:749

00:57:644 : This is way complicated for a muzukashii, you should stay simple and go for a k k kkk with 1/2 1/4 pattern.
00:59:696 : I'm not a big fan too, because it's confuse too. but i'm more to move the first 1/4 pattern for 1/4 tick latter since it's more symetric with the whole pattern, and you keep 1/1 distance with the previous d instead of a 3/4.
01:01:443 : This is too much confuse for a pattern of this style, you go 3/4 for 3 notes, the first react of a player is to continue for a 3/4, so i really advise you to back 1/4 earlier.
01:01:591 : Here you altern different double pattern, not fan for a muzu one.
01:01:670 : But on the other hand i don't know on how you based this 1/4 since this should be a 1/2.

01:27:012 : You have a not on futsuu and oni, so you should add a k here.

The rest is a technical but ok for me.

[Oni]

00:26:854 : You should reverse this and the next circle, this is more logic and reliable with the music.
00:27:486 : Here, this should be a k too, same args the above. And the next triple is ddk too.
00:28:117 : ^ 00:26:854

00:29:065+ : Copy / Paste the previous part?
And after and after for the next ones.

00:52:907 : Same triple appears on the Ura one, and it's not the same pattern, dkk or kdk. Choose. :>
01:11:696 : Muzukashii had map this tick, Ura too, mabe consider the same here.

The rest is fine for me.

[Ura Oni]

00:11:539 : This is strange since on your Ura and Oni, you didn't put the triple on the same place. Maybe be more consistent or logic? But i prefer the oni version here.
00:31:117 : You should put the same triple as the previous one, so choose between kdk or kkd, i'm more for the kdk since you continuing on a k note after on the first one, and the last note of the triple is noticable, also on the next pattern you finish the triple by a k.
02:03:696 : I think it's would be better if you clearly make a 1/1 break, so i advise you to delete this note
02:06:012 : Is a 1/2 spinner usefull and rankable? I don't think it's a good idea, at least for safety about unqualified. Sice you did 1/8 (or 1/6), you could do a full circle, or at least a slider.

I'm not pro to judge Ura / Inner so can't do more.

[Spread]

00:34:117~ (Oni - Ura Oni) : if you compare this area, you'll find that the patterns are the same expect at the end with 1/8 k patterns. Maybe consider clearing some objects on the oni one?

00:39:170~ (Kantan - Futsuu - Muzukashii) : Here you have to much objects on the futsuu, if you check, you'll find a disorder, consider deleting some notes on the futsuu in order to equalize the part?

00:39:170~ (Oni - Ura Oni) : Same thing as above on 00:37:117.

00:41:696~ (Kantan - Futsuu - Muzukashii) : Same thing, plus lot of k appears on the muzukashii, imo there's some trouble.

01:17:065~ (Kantan - Futsuu - Muzukashii) : On this area (especially on futsuu) there's a problem, you don't use 1/2 pattern on futsuu while you're making 1/4 on muzukashii, something is wrong about this part.

01:57:960~ (Muzukashii - Oni - Ura Oni) : You have the same pattern during this part for the whole 3 diff, how about adding some notes on the 2 hardest ones.

02:08:854~ (Futsuu - Muzukashii - Oni) : The pattern between Futsuu and Muzukashii are similar around this area, maybe consider adding some notes on the muzukashii one and have a better spread with Oni.


Wouw finished! \:D/
Topic Starter
DakeDekaane

Aldwych wrote:

[General]

You should decrease kantan's HP drain by 1 in order to make 3-4-5-6.
And the Ura Oni can be increase by 1 for both OD and HP, having the same difficutly for Oni and Ura should't be a good choice. /*Personally I wouldn't like to punish players a lot, Ura is already harder due the final long stream (also I dislike decimal settings for HP and OD).

[Kantan]

Well i'm not fan of the 5 1/1 in a row for a kantan, the idea is to delete some notes to make 3 1/1 in a row without changing too much the mapping style. /*Keeping this as doing it would break the consistency I brought with the first ddk, and making it 2/1 would be quite meh.
On this following notes :
- 00:14:223
- 00:16:749
- 00:19:275

But also the problem i find by deleting this is the spread with futsuu because on the same time you're using triple 1/2 pattern which will result in a disorder, so it's up to you since your diff are harder than the classics one (regarding on the star rating). /*I had in mind a "boss" spread when I mapped this, an "usual" Kantan wouldn't really fit here, given how the song is, from my mapping perspective (you can easily tell this by looking some of my other maps).

00:25:275 : Here you have some trouble since you didn't put a note on the muzukashii diff. So maybe choose between delete on futsuu or add on muzukashii /*Didn't put in Kantan because I wanted to focus on the bassy beats, put in Futsuu because I mapped them there, and didn't put in Muzukashii to create a small break (it isn't that bad, I think).
00:26:539 + : these kind of patterns should be ddk, but i can understand that if you do this, it'll result in a repetitive part but because it's a kantan diff, is it a problem, maybe not. /*While I agree on repetitive pattern not being a problem, I find it a bit boring here, since the tone changes considerably to have the same pattern 8 times in a row.

00:56:854 : I felt weird when i saw this part, because there's only k notes, and in muzukashi+, you didn't, maybe changing some k to d would be a good choice. On this following notes :
- 00:57:802
- 00:59:696
- 01:00:328
- 01:02:223
- 01:02:854
- 01:04:749
-01:05:065
-01:05:381

The idea here is first of make make the part more consitent with the muzu+ ones (i'll do the same for futsuu eh), and to make the piano and the battery more distinct, and not a full combo of k which is boring. /*Well, I want to make some emphasis for the heavy snare section here, mixing don and kats in a very simple rhythm wouldn't let me achieve that, so I went full kat here.

01:17:381 - 01:18:644 - 01:19:907 : Theses notes diserved to be k, they're higher compared to the others. /*Not really, making them kat would not let the high tone sound in 01:18:012 - 01:19:275 - and 01:20:539 - feel the same, since we'd have another high tone sound, I know they're empty, and that was the intention.

01:37:591 : I advise you to swap it to triple k, you did on futsuu, and on the other diff, it's massively k notes here too. /*This would make a nice difficulty increasing here, due the color change, and considering this is a Kantan, I don't want to go harder, since I'm already near the limits, lol
01:42:664 : On the other 3 1/1 in a row you did dkd, you should changing this to k in order to make the combo more consistent. /*The music is different here :P
01:52:433 : Maybe change this one to k. /*This part is less sadist being all D.

01:58:749+ : This part is quite intense for a kantan, maybe delete these folowing notes ? /*This part is special in the whole set, as this part is the difficultie peak in all diffs, I'd like to keep this motif.
- 01:59:696
- 02:00:960
- 02:02:223

[Futsuu]

00:26:579 : Here's you're changing the playstyle and the patterns in comparison with the previous part. Maybe consider making a pause by delting the 3 previous note (or less if you prefer)? /*Removed a few notes here.
00:39:484+ : Strangely i'd rather see dkd pattern here. /*I removed some notes and I don't remember the whole pattern x_x, but I prefer leaving a lonely kat in 00:41:065 (103) - while the rest are dons, as that beat is the highest, being this unique will make it stand out more.

00:57:382 : So same as kantan. /*Same as there.
Note :
- 154 = 00:56:854
- I've also modifed the first pattern in order to fit better with the piano and be more consistent with the next pattern.

01:37:907 : YOu should change it to d, the sound is different, so the pattern deserve to be too. /*I want to give some emphasis here, since the sound is high, I know it doesn't match strictly the tone, but making it don wouldn't feel the same.
01:39:170 : I'd rather see a k here, the next patter will be easier to read. /*Not really, since both patterns are inversed, I think this is pretty friendly.
01:40:433 : And here a d to make a contrast the previous pattern. /*^
01:48:012 : Same a 01:37:907. /*^Same
01:58:749 : Strangly if it was me, i would map this pater on the other side, i mean 02:02:539+ should the part with 1/2. /*That wouldn't let me put this tasty big notes there tho.

02:06:328 : Imo, this part should be map like : d dk dk kd kdk kd dk. This is more conistent with the music. /*I want to keep the end simple, changed 02:08:223 (7) - to kat tho.

[Muzukashii]

00:25:275 : see futsuu notes. /*Explained there.
00:25:907 : This should bee dkk since on the previous parts the last one sounds k on your patterns. /*Since it has a different tone than the previous note, and that is higher, I'm keeping this as don.
00:26:854+ : about this part i'm a bit confuse on how you put your d and your k, and i felt weird so in my opinion this is how you should do your patterns, on the following ones :
- 00:26:854 : On this kind of pattern this should be dkk kkk , on this pattern the k are used on the higher sounds, plus the k and d are more visible and so more intuitive. /*Changed for d d k kkk.
- 00:28:117 : On this one, this should be dkk, the music is repetitive so the pattern has to be a little consistent and legit so this one is a bit similar to the previous on without the triple k. /*Since I did ddk there, I'm going ddk here too.
- 00:30:664 : And this one, dkkdk, this one is similar to the previous one except you added a note, so this have to a d in order to make soundly more visible the next k, but because it's not consistent with the main pattern of this part, i advise you to delete the fourth note. /*This pattern is based on 00:29:381 (86,87,88,89,90,91) - , just as 00:28:117 (81,82,83,84) - is based on 00:26:854 (74,75,76,77,78,79) - , so the kkddk, didn't go kkdkk, since it doesn't sound good, as for the extra note, the music is stronger here.

Here is the final example :
note : circle n° 84 = 00:28:749

00:57:644 : This is way complicated for a muzukashii, you should stay simple and go for a k k kkk with 1/2 1/4 pattern. /*I'd like to go simple here, but it just doesn't sound nice, neither goes naturally with the song.
00:59:696 : I'm not a big fan too, because it's confuse too. but i'm more to move the first 1/4 pattern for 1/4 tick latter since it's more symetric with the whole pattern, and you keep 1/1 distance with the previous d instead of a 3/4. /*^
01:01:443 : This is too much confuse for a pattern of this style, you go 3/4 for 3 notes, the first react of a player is to continue for a 3/4, so i really advise you to back 1/4 earlier. /*I agree here.
01:01:591 : Here you altern different double pattern, not fan for a muzu one. /*Alternating doubles are quite common tho.
01:01:670 : But on the other hand i don't know on how you based this 1/4 since this should be a 1/2. /*I think I'm a bit deaf.

01:27:012 : You have a not on futsuu and oni, so you should add a k here. /*Having that note here wouldn't benefit at all the big notes pattern I have, since I'm going more for the strongest sounds here.

The rest is a technical but ok for me.

[Oni]

00:26:854 : You should reverse this and the next circle, this is more logic and reliable with the music. /*I don't think so, 00:26:854 (104) - has a similar note as 00:27:170 (106) - , not 00:27:012 (105) -
00:27:486 : Here, this should be a k too, same args the above. And the next triple is ddk too. /*^Similar.
00:28:117 : ^ 00:26:854 /*^

00:29:065+ : Copy / Paste the previous part? /*^
And after and after for the next ones.

00:52:907 : Same triple appears on the Ura one, and it's not the same pattern, dkk or kdk. Choose. :> /*Both sounds good imo, and I want to make Ura and this not so similar here (they already are, since Oni is just an easier version of Ura).
01:11:696 : Muzukashii had map this tick, Ura too, mabe consider the same here. /*I want a small break here, since it fits.

The rest is fine for me.

[Ura Oni]

00:11:539 : This is strange since on your Ura and Oni, you didn't put the triple on the same place. Maybe be more consistent or logic? But i prefer the oni version here. /*hehe, I'm deaf.
00:31:117 : You should put the same triple as the previous one, so choose between kdk or kkd, i'm more for the kdk since you continuing on a k note after on the first one, and the last note of the triple is noticable, also on the next pattern you finish the triple by a k. /*They shouldn't be the same, as music tone is different for both patterns.
02:03:696 : I think it's would be better if you clearly make a 1/1 break, so i advise you to delete this note. /*Okay, I wasn't happy with this note (added a note on 01:14:302 - to keep the 900 combo tho).
02:06:012 : Is a 1/2 spinner usefull and rankable? I don't think it's a good idea, at least for safety about unqualified. Sice you did 1/8 (or 1/6), you could do a full circle, or at least a slider. /*I know this is gimmick, but neither circles (neither 1/4 or 1/6 fits this bzzzzz sound) or slider (if they weren't restricted only to 1/4 ticks) would play the same for this part.

I'm not pro to judge Ura / Inner so can't do more.

[Spread]

00:34:117~ (Oni - Ura Oni) : if you compare this area, you'll find that the patterns are the same expect at the end with 1/8 k patterns. Maybe consider clearing some objects on the oni one? /*Not really an issue imo, since the patterns are simpler, and breaking patterns in Oni would feel awkward to play, given I followed this synth sound.

00:39:170~ (Kantan - Futsuu - Muzukashii) : Here you have to much objects on the futsuu, if you check, you'll find a disorder, consider deleting some notes on the futsuu in order to equalize the part? /*Yes, removed a considerable ammount of notes in Futsuu.

00:39:170~ (Oni - Ura Oni) : Same thing as above on 00:37:117. /*Same as there.

00:41:696~ (Kantan - Futsuu - Muzukashii) : Same thing, plus lot of k appears on the muzukashii, imo there's some trouble. /*If you refer to the Kantan, it's perfectly fine, since I played a bit with abekobe (inverse colour) with the previous pattern.

01:17:065~ (Kantan - Futsuu - Muzukashii) : On this area (especially on futsuu) there's a problem, you don't use 1/2 pattern on futsuu while you're making 1/4 on muzukashii, something is wrong about this part. /*While I don't use 1/2 in Futsuu, but 1/4 in Muzukashii, the patterns in Muzukashii aren't really that hard (ooo o), and I have 1/1 breaks between them, somehow balancing the continuous 1/1 in Futsuu.

01:57:960~ (Muzukashii - Oni - Ura Oni) : You have the same pattern during this part for the whole 3 diff, how about adding some notes on the 2 hardest ones. /*I really can't add more notes here o_O.

02:08:854~ (Futsuu - Muzukashii - Oni) : The pattern between Futsuu and Muzukashii are similar around this area, maybe consider adding some notes on the muzukashii one and have a better spread with Oni. /*Okay, added some notes in Muzukashii.


Wouw finished! \:D/
Whoaaa, thanks a lot for the mod, although I didn't apply most of it, but the one I applied were some critical mistakes from mine, I really appreciate this help.
Backfire
Oni-
00:25:117 - I dont like the break here, theres a break in a bit which is fine but there is still stuff here I think. Unless this is specifically for spread.
00:41:065 - finisher? Its the end of this little like...idk what to call it. Do it if you like or not lol
01:14:539 (398,400) - I like these both as finishers
01:33:486 - finisher please :( it fits so well

Ok thats all, good diff :)

ORRAORRAORRA Oni -
As a general thing, I think you can make it more dense LOL I know its already hard but yeah
01:14:539 (457,458,459,460,461,462) - this whole little section needs some finisher here or there
01:33:486 - finisher here like last diff
01:38:065 - you could add some stuff here, a don or something
01:53:696 - 01:58:433 - oh god my eyes, please make this part like...fitting to the diff :( It's inner oni, you don't need that weak stuff!
02:06:012 - yo fuck this spinner just put some 1/6 kkkk if you wanna be a troll

Alright good.

This diff is a troll, you're a troll.
Topic Starter
DakeDekaane

Backfire wrote:

Oni-
00:25:117 - I dont like the break here, theres a break in a bit which is fine but there is still stuff here I think. Unless this is specifically for spread. /*Yup, added a note there.
00:41:065 - finisher? Its the end of this little like...idk what to call it. Do it if you like or not lol /*The sound isn't that strong to deserve a big note x_x
01:14:539 (398,400) - I like these both as finishers /*Okay
01:33:486 - finisher please :( it fits so well /*That'd make it inconsistent with 01:43:591 (578) - ;~;

Ok thats all, good diff :)

ORRAORRAORRA Oni -
As a general thing, I think you can make it more dense LOL I know its already hard but yeah /*I know, but somehow I'd want to keep it a bit simple (and keep the 900 911 combo) Added a few notes.]
01:14:539 (457,458,459,460,461,462) - this whole little section needs some finisher here or there /*Added big notes.
01:33:486 - finisher here like last diff /*Same as there ;~;
01:38:065 - you could add some stuff here, a don or something /*I don't find very fitting, since the pause lets 01:37:907 (636) - be emphasized, somewhat.
01:53:696 - 01:58:433 - oh god my eyes, please make this part like...fitting to the diff :( It's inner oni, you don't need that weak stuff! /*Consider this part as a small breather before the storm comes, added a few notes tho..
02:06:012 - yo fuck this spinner just put some 1/6 kkkk if you wanna be a troll /*I don't wanna be a troll :(

Alright good.

This diff is a troll, you're a troll.
Thanks for modding, Bacfire!
rip 900 notes
hi 911 notes huehuehue. (Also back to its original 5.78 SR)
goatlife
Hello! This is my first mod be nice ;)

k - kat
d - don
K - Big kat
D - Big don

[Ura Oni]
00:22:749 (89) - Add a K here. The sound is very loud/cool here so I think it deserves it.
00:23:696 (94) - ^
00:26:223 (113) - This note should be a K because you used kats on the other 2 notes that make this same sound. Consistency is key breh
01:18:012 (483) - K
01:28:117 - You should map something starting here. To start off you could do a dddk then a kkkd after. This part of the map feels empty w/o notes
02:06:012 (1) - You should add a stream of red notes here instead of a spinner similarly like you did with this: 00:25:275 (103,104,105,106,107,108,109) Having a spinner here is really random and I don't think spinners are supposed to be for small/mappable parts like this.

Overall fun to play though great work!

[Oni]
00:11:696 (3,4,5) - Remove the 4? It's up to you. It sounds over mapped for an Oni. Same applies to 00:12:328 (8,9,10) and 00:12:960 (13,14,15) If you want, you can remove the middle note in all of these and then leave the middle note in for the second stream after this one. Lots of things you can do! Hope that makes sense.
00:25:275 (94,95,96) - add a k @ 00:25:512 after 96 to match the roll with the song.
00:27:486 (109) - Replace with a k
00:32:539 (143) - ^
00:59:223 - add a k
00:59:302 - ^
01:16:433 (406) - Either make this a tad longer or map it out with d's
01:18:012 (414) - should be a K like it was in the beginning of the song.
01:28:117 - See Ura Oni

[Muzukashii]
00:25:275 - add a k
00:25:433 - ^
02:07:117 - add a d
02:09:012 - ^

[Futsuu]
00:47:696 - add a k
00:49:749 - ^
00:49:907 - ^

[Kantan]
nada

Hope I helped a bit ^_^
Topic Starter
DakeDekaane

goatlife wrote:

Hello! This is my first mod be nice ;)

k - kat
d - don
K - Big kat
D - Big don

[Ura Oni]
00:22:749 (89) - Add a K here. The sound is very loud/cool here so I think it deserves it. /*Not that loud as the other places where I put big notes.
00:23:696 (94) - ^
00:26:223 (113) - This note should be a K because you used kats on the other 2 notes that make this same sound. Consistency is key breh /*The sound isn't the same tho, this is lower than where I put kats, but still put a big don.
01:18:012 (483) - K /*As first suggestions.
01:28:117 - You should map something starting here. To start off you could do a dddk then a kkkd after. This part of the map feels empty w/o notes /*That's the purpose of it, serve as a small break since there's no relevant sound there.
02:06:012 (1) - You should add a stream of red notes here instead of a spinner similarly like you did with this: 00:25:275 (103,104,105,106,107,108,109) Having a spinner here is really random and I don't think spinners are supposed to be for small/mappable parts like this. /*The difference is that in the first stream the beats were clearly 1/6, while here isn't that clear, so I put the spinner, I know it's a gimmick, but I don't find a stream fitting better than the spinner.

Overall fun to play though great work! /*Thanks :)

[Oni]
00:11:696 (3,4,5) - Remove the 4? It's up to you. It sounds over mapped for an Oni. Same applies to 00:12:328 (8,9,10) and 00:12:960 (13,14,15) If you want, you can remove the middle note in all of these and then leave the middle note in for the second stream after this one. Lots of things you can do! Hope that makes sense. /*I'd want to keep it this way, since it's the same pattern in the music itself.
00:25:275 (94,95,96) - add a k @ 00:25:512 after 96 to match the roll with the song. /*Sure.
00:27:486 (109) - Replace with a k /*Keeping this notes, as I have nearly the same patterns as in Ura, having the same in both difficulties would be bad.
00:32:539 (143) - ^ /^
00:59:223 - add a k /*This has the purpose of a small break, since notes aren't that strong.
00:59:302 - ^ /*^
01:16:433 (406) - Either make this a tad longer or map it out with d's /*Made it longer.
01:18:012 (414) - should be a K like it was in the beginning of the song. /*Sure
01:28:117 - See Ura Oni /*Same as there.

[Muzukashii]
00:25:275 - add a k /*Intentional break along the long sound there.
00:25:433 - ^ /*^
02:07:117 - add a d /*Okay.
02:09:012 - ^ /*Added a kat here.

[Futsuu]
00:47:696 - add a k /*Since this is a calm part, I'd want to keep it like this.
00:49:749 - ^
00:49:907 - ^

[Kantan]
nada

Hope I helped a bit ^_^
Thanks a lot for modding. Even if I rejected some of it, it's a detailed mod and this is a good thing, good job for being the first mod, keep the good work.
DaxMasterix
Bubbled!
ha, just kidding, I can't bubble maps
good luck and rank this! :D
Cloudchaser
DAKE STAHP
K-Ted
Revived! C'mon, let's rank this!
Nardoxyribonucleic
Hi Dake, here is the M4M as requested.

[General]

The current BG size is 1365 x 768. Please change it to 1366 x 768 or any widescreen equivalent.

  • [Kantan]
  1. 00:40:749 (67,68,69) - this 1/2 ddd pattern is in fact too hard for the difficulty. The intention to emphasize the music is good, but such a pattern would not be suitable in Kantan. One possible modification is to delete 00:39:486 (64,68) - to achieve the similar purpose.
  2. 00:45:802 (76,77,78) - same as ^ , 00:44:539 (73,77) - can be deleted.
  3. 01:26:854 (152) - As this note is less prominent than 01:25:907 (149,150,151,153) - , consider deleting it for a better emphasis ?
  4. 01:37:591 (9,10,11) - same as 00:40:749 (67,68,69) - , consider deleting 01:37:749 (10) - and change 01:37:591 (9,11) - to k instead of using the three 1/2 notes ?
  5. 01:47:696 (29,30,31) - same as ^
  6. From 01:58:749 to 02:04:749 - , the 1/1 stream is very long. I think it would be better to insert a few 2/1 breaks in between for the sake of simplicity.
  • [Futsuu]
  1. 00:40:275 (99) - As the note density here is quite close to Muzukashii, it would be better to delete this note for the sake of a better spread.
  2. 00:45:328 (115) - same as ^
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:48:328 (174,175,176,177) - try dkk d or kdk d here ? This could fit the piano in a way better.
  2. 01:02:539 (239) - consider changing this note to d ? It is quite similar to 00:57:486 (212,220) -
  3. 01:03:012 (241) - moving this note to 01:02:933 - could follow the instrument as well apart from 01:00:644 (229,230,231,232) -
  4. 01:19:591 (320) - maybe D as you did at 01:17:065 (306,313) - ? They share the same stress imo.
  5. 02:09:723 (14,15) - swap these notes to d k ? The pitch among 02:09:486 (13,15) - is the same.
  • [Oni]
  1. 01:35:617 (522,523,524) - consider using dk d here to follow the music pitch as well as the snare at 01:35:696 - ?
  2. 01:45:723 (595,596,597) - same as ^
  • [Ura Oni]
  1. 00:21:723 (82) - you may use k here since the pitch is the highest among 00:21:486 (79,80,81,82,83) -
  2. 00:37:196 (194,195) - consider swapping these notes to d k ? This would result in a smoother flow imo.
  3. 00:42:249 (232,233) - same as ^
  4. 01:54:012 (781) - consider deleting this note ? It sounds a bit unnecessary imo.
  5. 01:56:539 (791) - same as ^
You may call me back after that~ :D
Btw, I'm still waiting for your recheck on Kimiiro Signal. It is already bubbled :3
Topic Starter
DakeDekaane

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Hi Dake, here is the M4M as requested.

[General]

The current BG size is 1365 x 768. Please change it to 1366 x 768 or any widescreen equivalent. /*It's only 1 pixel :(

  • [Kantan]
  1. 00:40:749 (67,68,69) - this 1/2 ddd pattern is in fact too hard for the difficulty. The intention to emphasize the music is good, but such a pattern would not be suitable in Kantan. One possible modification is to delete 00:39:486 (64,68) - to achieve the similar purpose. /*After a long time I decided to take them off.
  2. 00:45:802 (76,77,78) - same as ^ , 00:44:539 (73,77) - can be deleted. /*Same
  3. 01:26:854 (152) - As this note is less prominent than 01:25:907 (149,150,151,153) - , consider deleting it for a better emphasis ? /*Okay
  4. 01:37:591 (9,10,11) - same as 00:40:749 (67,68,69) - , consider deleting 01:37:749 (10) - and change 01:37:591 (9,11) - to k instead of using the three 1/2 notes ? /*Removed the 1/2 note, but made ddk for the 1/1 pattern.
  5. 01:47:696 (29,30,31) - same as ^ /*^
  6. From 01:58:749 to 02:04:749 - , the 1/1 stream is very long. I think it would be better to insert a few 2/1 breaks in between for the sake of simplicity. /*Did something here, I really want to keep the first part of the long pattern, since it's the difficulty spike in every difficulty.

    /*Additional changes:
    - Simplified 01:06:960 - 01:22:117 -
    - Removed notes in 01:49:275 - and 01:50:539 -
  • [Futsuu]
  1. 00:40:275 (99) - As the note density here is quite close to Muzukashii, it would be better to delete this note for the sake of a better spread. /*Sure.
  2. 00:45:328 (115) - same as ^ /*^

    /*Additional changes:
    - Simplified 01:17:065 - 01:22:117 -
    - Changed pattern in 01:38:539 -01:41:065 - to lead better to Muzukashii.
    - Changed pattern in 01:51:170 - 01:53:696 - to avoid the D d D d D.
    - Changed patterns in 01:58:749 - 02:02:539 - to sound and flow more natural.
  • [Muzukashii]
  1. 00:48:328 (174,175,176,177) - try dkk d or kdk d here ? This could fit the piano in a way better. /*Yes.
  2. 01:02:539 (239) - consider changing this note to d ? It is quite similar to 00:57:486 (212,220) - /*Oops.
  3. 01:03:012 (241) - moving this note to 01:02:933 - could follow the instrument as well apart from 01:00:644 (229,230,231,232) - /*Oops.
  4. 01:19:591 (320) - maybe D as you did at 01:17:065 (306,313) - ? They share the same stress imo. /*Made 01:18:328 (313) - a normal note instead, since it lacks this whooooosshh in the background.
  5. 02:09:723 (14,15) - swap these notes to d k ? The pitch among 02:09:486 (13,15) - is the same. /*Though it fits the pitch, kkd k flows better, imo.

    /*Additional changes:
    - Removed the big note spam in 01:51:170 - 01:53:696 -
  • [Oni]
  1. 01:35:617 (522,523,524) - consider using dk d here to follow the music pitch as well as the snare at 01:35:696 - ? /*Following the synthesizer over drums here.
  2. 01:45:723 (595,596,597) - same as ^ /*^
  • [Ura Oni]
  1. 00:21:723 (82) - you may use k here since the pitch is the highest among 00:21:486 (79,80,81,82,83) - /*Done.
  2. 00:37:196 (194,195) - consider swapping these notes to d k ? This would result in a smoother flow imo. /*I remember this was said before, yeah.
  3. 00:42:249 (232,233) - same as ^ /*^
  4. 01:54:012 (781) - consider deleting this note ? It sounds a bit unnecessary imo. /*Yeees and removed some more.
  5. 01:56:539 (791) - same as ^ /*^

    /*Additional changes:
    - Removed some notes here 01:51:170 - 01:53:696 - to adjust 900 combo /w\
You may call me back after that~ :D
Btw, I'm still waiting for your recheck on Kimiiro Signal. It is already bubbled :3 /*/w\
Thanks a lot Nardo :)
Nardoxyribonucleic
Kantan is much easier than before. Although the lower difficulties are a bit hard owing to the difficulty spike at 01:58:749 - , the patterns and difficulty spread look fine in general, while breaks are used properly.

Bubbled~
Topic Starter
DakeDekaane
Yuii-
R A N K E D B O Y Z







HAAAAAAA Almost.
Nwolf
woof woof

[All diffs]

00:46:749 - reduce volume from here to 00:56:854 - here? Cause... quiet part

00:11:381 - y u no start song powerful
00:26:539 - Add finisher so it becomes more noticeable that the music changes here
00:31:591 - ^
01:38:539 - stopping kiai here doesn't seem to make much sense, to me at least
02:10:117 - 02:11:381 (1) - K/F =/= M/O/U on purpose??

[Kantan]

00:36:644 (61) - Change to big don cause Muzu/Ura and 02:02:539 (55) -
00:41:696 (68) - ^ just kat

[Futsuu]

00:25:275 (48) - Delete to keep break consistent with Muzukashii
00:30:802 (67) - Kat might work here quite well since 00:26:854 (53,62) - you did on these too
00:35:539 (84) - ^
00:36:644 (88) - Same as Kantan (biiiiiiiiiiiiiig)
00:41:696 (103) - ^
00:54:802 (134,135) - Think you should either remove this completely or at least delete the first note cause this is pretty much the only doublet on this sound in Futsuu
01:17:065 (35) - 01:18:328 (38) - 01:19:591 (41) - add finishers on these notes to prepare for the upcoming ones (in 1/1) ->01:22:117 (49) -
01:33:486 (1) - Wouldn't be bad to have a big don here too since less noteworthy notes like 01:53:696 (64) - have one too (and that one is kinda questionable cause ddD)
01:43:591 (32) - ^ blah (maybe make both big kats, might not fit to your style though)
01:53:539 (63) - Remove note, reason above
01:58:117 (73) - Replace with a don so there's one more break before the difficulty spike

[Muzukashii]

00:45:012 - Add don cause 00:39:328 (137) -
00:49:828 (180) - Remove to make calm part calmer and to decrease the relatively big gap between Muzu and Futsuu here
00:51:723 (188) - ^
00:52:986 (193) - ^
00:56:144 (206) - ^
00:56:539 - Maybe add a note here to get into the drums better
01:03:170 (241,242,243) - Think it suits the map better if you deleted the middle note and changed the last to kat cause... snares (or w/e that is)
01:03:960 (247,248) - And here I actually think that having 3/4 would also be better since then it plays better when listening to the song. 248 would be a don then cause low notes.
01:18:328 (313) - 01:19:591 (320) - Big dons??
01:29:696 (1) - Wouldn't be bad if the spinner ended 1/1 earlier and you mapped 01:33:170 - this spot
01:33:486 (1) - Same as Footshoe
01:40:433 (38,39,40,41,42) - un-1/4 this (aka 1/2), it's very harsh to have so many 5-plets in a row. Oni seems less harsh here o.o

[Oni]

00:45:486 (237) - Might be better to delete this so you follow synth more clearly
00:56:854 (294) - I don't really understand why of all notes this one is a big don. (it's not in the lower diffs)
01:17:065 (410,418,428) - Same as previous diffs (also these are in Ura Oni)
01:18:012 (417) - Remove cause all others in this part are 1/4, Ura Oni skipped them too
01:29:696 (480,481,482,483,484,485,486,487,488,489,490,491,492,493,494,495,496,497,498,499,500,501,502,503,504,505,506) - I think it's better if you nerf this a little bit because Muzukashii only has a spinner here
01:33:486 (508) - Big kat? I find the sound way stronger and more important than the other one.
01:39:486 (550) - Change to kat because the synth goes up (and actually stops) here and 01:40:749 (562) - change to kat too cause it would fit to map better I think (if you change 550)

[Ura Oni]

00:22:749 (89) - 00:23:696 (94) - Missing finishers
00:49:749 (280,281,282,283) - pls why
01:33:486 (603) - Same as Oni


ye
Topic Starter
DakeDekaane
This Tomorrow will be the day.
Checked the mod from bottom to the top =A=

Nwolf wrote:

woof woof

[All diffs]

00:46:749 - reduce volume from here to 00:56:854 - here? Cause... quiet part /*Not a big fan of volume changes, but did something.

00:11:381 - y u no start song powerful /*Piano isn't powerful, that's why.
00:26:539 - Add finisher so it becomes more noticeable that the music changes here /*Pattern structure changed heavily and we have the previous big note, should be enough :u
00:31:591 - ^ /*Since no big note in the point above, not big note here.
01:38:539 - stopping kiai here doesn't seem to make much sense, to me at least /*I think you're right about this.
02:10:117 - 02:11:381 (1) - K/F =/= M/O/U on purpose?? /*Yeah

[Kantan]

00:36:644 (61) - Change to big don cause Muzu/Ura and 02:02:539 (55) - /*Read Futsuu.
00:41:696 (68) - ^ just kat /*^Simlar

[Futsuu]

00:25:275 (48) - Delete to keep break consistent with Muzukashii /*Okay.
00:30:802 (67) - Kat might work here quite well since 00:26:854 (53,62) - you did on these too /*Last note is quite higher, so it'd be better as a ddk instead dkk
00:35:539 (84) - ^
00:36:644 (88) - Same as Kantan (biiiiiiiiiiiiiig) /*Not going to do big notes here, they sound kind of loud.
00:41:696 (103) - ^ /*Neither here, changed k d d structure for d k k btw.
00:54:802 (134,135) - Think you should either remove this completely or at least delete the first note cause this is pretty much the only doublet on this sound in Futsuu /*The double here is actually a bit weird being ignored, added a double in the previous similar sound.
01:17:065 (35) - 01:18:328 (38) - 01:19:591 (41) - add finishers on these notes to prepare for the upcoming ones (in 1/1) ->01:22:117 (49) - /*Made 01:17:065 (35) - a big note only, as the other lacks the whooosshh in the background.
01:33:486 (1) - Wouldn't be bad to have a big don here too since less noteworthy notes like 01:53:696 (64) - have one too (and that one is kinda questionable cause ddD) /*It'd sound kind of weird, I'm focusing a bit more on the drum beat in low diffs, having synth as auxiliar later, and drums are quite the same here, so yeah.
01:43:591 (32) - ^ blah (maybe make both big kats, might not fit to your style though) /*^
01:53:539 (63) - Remove note, reason above /*Removed.
01:58:117 (73) - Replace with a don so there's one more break before the difficulty spike /*Yes

[Muzukashii]

00:45:012 - Add don cause 00:39:328 (137) - /*Removed the other note instead
00:49:828 (180) - Remove to make calm part calmer and to decrease the relatively big gap between Muzu and Futsuu here /*Removed.
00:51:723 (188) - ^ /*Kept this to make it different from the other doubles.
00:52:986 (193) - ^ /*Removed.
00:56:144 (206) - ^ /*Kept this too.
00:56:539 - Maybe add a note here to get into the drums better /*That'd sound more like a filler note.
01:03:170 (241,242,243) - Think it suits the map better if you deleted the middle note and changed the last to kat cause... snares (or w/e that is) /*ddd for the bzzzz
01:03:960 (247,248) - And here I actually think that having 3/4 would also be better since then it plays better when listening to the song. 248 would be a don then cause low notes. /*Yeah to the 3/4, no to the don, leaving a small break for this crazy part.
01:18:328 (313) - 01:19:591 (320) - Big dons?? /*No whoooosshhhhh in the background.
01:29:696 (1) - Wouldn't be bad if the spinner ended 1/1 earlier and you mapped 01:33:170 - this spot /*That'd be a kind of emphasis killer for the first note in the kiai, didn't map it because it belongs to the rhythm covered by the spinner, so it'd feel kind of weird too.
01:33:486 (1) - Same as Footshoe /*Nuu (I wrote reasons in Oni).
01:40:433 (38,39,40,41,42) - un-1/4 this (aka 1/2), it's very harsh to have so many 5-plets in a row. Oni seems less harsh here o.o /*Yeah, toned down that part, longer pattern, but no 5-note patterns.

[Oni]

00:45:486 (237) - Might be better to delete this so you follow synth more clearly /*It's relatively hard to ignore beat.
00:56:854 (294) - I don't really understand why of all notes this one is a big don. (it's not in the lower diffs). /*Oops.
01:17:065 (410,418,428) - Same as previous diffs (also these are in Ura Oni) /*Made 01:17:065 (410) - a big note only, the others lack the whoooosshhhh.
01:18:012 (417) - Remove cause all others in this part are 1/4, Ura Oni skipped them too /*Sure.
01:29:696 (480,481,482,483,484,485,486,487,488,489,490,491,492,493,494,495,496,497,498,499,500,501,502,503,504,505,506) - I think it's better if you nerf this a little bit because Muzukashii only has a spinner here /*I think it's a bit easier now? I could map a bit on Muzukashii, but it'd sound lame.
01:33:486 (508) - Big kat? I find the sound way stronger and more important than the other one. /*I'd love too, but my OCD tells me this should be the same as 01:43:591 -
01:39:486 (550) - Change to kat because the synth goes up (and actually stops) here and 01:40:749 (562) - change to kat too cause it would fit to map better I think (if you change 550) /*Synth doesn't stop, the rhythm here goes kind of xxoo ox, but made xxooo x for sake of simplicity.

[Ura Oni]

00:22:749 (89) - 00:23:696 (94) - Missing finishers /*Not present here. They're present in Oni in order to have a "different sound" (k K) for the last note, emphasizing it, here we have d k.
00:49:749 (280,281,282,283) - pls why /*Blame piano.
01:33:486 (603) - Same as Oni /*Same


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Ms. Pillow told me to change a pattern in 01:05:696 - to 1/6, fitting better to the buzzy sound. 01:07:512 - 01:10:039 - 01:12:565 - were removed in order to keep 900 combo. I have a backup of the older version, just in case.

Thanks a lot for the mod woof <3
Lost The Lights
WHERE IS THE HEART
Surono
hmmm...
Nwolf
qualified~
tasuke912
gratz! :)
Charlotte
gratz~=w=/
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DakeDekaane
This is like the best way to start a day. Thank woof and everyone =w=b
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