1. pk's Rosicrucianism (5.46 stars, 1304 notes)
2. Rosenkreuz (7.14 stars, 1321 notes)

1. 00:39:018 (6,7) - I recommend removing these, since there's no 1/6 beat unlike 00:40:787 (4,5,6) - . plus, removing those would accent (5) imo
2. 00:47:133 (3,4) - these contrasting movements are pretty hard and awkward, I think. Having (4) slide upwards instead of to the left would have better flow
3. I'm not really fond of the fact that a lot of the parts where the vocal follows half-beat half-beat, you map it as dotted-quarter dotted-quarter quarter. If you could change those patterns (01:12:402 (1,2,3,4) - , 01:17:940 (1,2,3) - , 01:28:094 (1,2,3) - , etc.) to emphasize the half beats it would prob improve rhythmically. But if you can't find any better implementation for those patterns to follow the rhythm, oh well
4. 02:41:709 (2,3,4,5) - (2) leading into (3) feels a little too crowded, maybe have (3)'s slider move downwards?
5. 03:55:554 (4,5,4,5) - I'm not really sure about these circles as a replacement for sliders. The benefit of those sliders was that you didn't have to move so far, making movement into the next slider much easier.
6. 05:11:246 (4,5,4,5) - Same as above suggestion
7. 04:12:400 (1) - It would be nice if you somewhat stacked this on top of the next slider's head. The angle of the jump when you place it like that feels nice :3
8. 04:41:015 (1) - Why is this so muted? Sounds weird as a finish to such a strong part of the song

toybot wrote:

M4M from queue

oh god, as i said in irc i won't be able to mod this sufficiently :p

[Rosenkreuz]

1. 00:39:018 (6,7) - I recommend removing these, since there's no 1/6 beat unlike 00:40:787 (4,5,6) - . plus, removing those would accent (5) imo yeh i agree but it's kinda weird if i map this 00:38:018 (2) - but don't map the 1/6
2. 00:47:133 (3,4) - these contrasting movements are pretty hard and awkward, I think. Having (4) slide upwards instead of to the left would have better flow fix did something
3. I'm not really fond of the fact that a lot of the parts where the vocal follows half-beat half-beat, you map it as dotted-quarter dotted-quarter quarter. If you could change those patterns (01:12:402 (1,2,3,4) - , 01:17:940 (1,2,3) - , 01:28:094 (1,2,3) - , etc.) to emphasize the half beats it would prob improve rhythmically. But if you can't find any better implementation for those patterns to follow the rhythm, oh well aha, its just something i do :X lol but following vocals would be quite hard for this map since the vocals are so off time
4. 02:41:709 (2,3,4,5) - (2) leading into (3) feels a little too crowded, maybe have (3)'s slider move downwards? think it seems fine tbh o-o i dont think moving 3 downards would help much, but the link was a bit weird so idk if u linked the right thing
5. 03:55:554 (4,5,4,5) - I'm not really sure about these circles as a replacement for sliders. The benefit of those sliders was that you didn't have to move so far, making movement into the next slider much easier. well i have 2 circles instead because u can hear the kicks and stuff there
6. 05:11:246 (4,5,4,5) - Same as above suggestion ^
7. 04:12:400 (1) - It would be nice if you somewhat stacked this on top of the next slider's head. The angle of the jump when you place it like that feels nice :3 moved it a bit,, i wana try to keep this general shape
8. 04:41:015 (1) - Why is this so muted? Sounds weird as a finish to such a strong part of the song oops o-o

I guess this mod was okay, pro map

Good luck! ^^

Kibbleru wrote:

toybot wrote:

M4M from queue

1. 02:41:709 (2,3,4,5) - (2) leading into (3) feels a little too crowded, maybe have (3)'s slider move downwards? think it seems fine tbh o-o i dont think moving 3 downards would help much, but the link was a bit weird so idk if u linked the right thing

Kibbleru wrote:

pishifat wrote:

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

1. 03:01:324 (1) - Curving this should flow slightly better, it would carry more rightward movement coming from the jump on 03:01:208 (5), basically the same thing as 02:59:362 (5,1)
2. 03:02:939 (4) - Ctrl+g here would probably play smoother, with the current one you create momentum for the opposite direction the player needs to move to jump onto 03:03:170 (1)
3. 04:20:361 (2) - Try this maybe
   
   SPOILER

   
4. 04:20:477 (3) - Maybe NC here for the 1/3?
5. 04:51:977 (4,1) - Shouldn't the spacing here be larger than in 04:51:861 (3,4) it's much more emphasized owo

sukiNathan wrote:

yolo
sexy garven

[Rosenkreuz]

1. 03:01:324 (1) - Curving this should flow slightly better, it would carry more rightward movement coming from the jump on 03:01:208 (5), basically the same thing as 02:59:362 (5,1) uhh i think its flows well enough though
2. 03:02:939 (4) - Ctrl+g here would probably play smoother, with the current one you create momentum for the opposite direction the player needs to move to jump onto 03:03:170 (1) breaking flow on purpose for emphasis on the violin
3. 04:20:361 (2) - Try this maybe blah looks bad to me lol
   
   SPOILER

   
4. 04:20:477 (3) - Maybe NC here for the 1/3? makes sense, but ill consider this late since it seems a bit spammed to NC
5. 04:51:977 (4,1) - Shouldn't the spacing here be larger than in 04:51:861 (3,4) it's much more emphasized owo ah, well ur right, but. idk its another one of the things i just do lol.

idk wat i'm doing

sukiNathan wrote:

oh yeah also shouldn't the OD be higher, with this bpm the time frame to hit a note is already very small

Aerous wrote:

Meow! Uhh m4m from your queue

Hope this helps because this is going to be a bad mod ;-; / Most of these are my opinions btw

00:04:203 (2) - Change this long slider into this ? Sounds better , http://puu.sh/gv3Wy/13819d906d.jpg its okay
00:14:722 (2) - Move this to here ? http://puu.sh/gv4C7/f89157e29e.jpg ^
00:15:555 (3) - Delete this and add a circle here instead : 00:15:822 - there is piano
00:27:175(4) - Make this into a single note and add a spinner afterwards? i really hate ppl using spinners retardedly.
00:40:210 - Add a note here? prefer to follow drums
00:44:249 (3,4) CTRL + G these two notes? http://puu.sh/gv4ZA/2958198170.jpg interesting okay
00:49:210 (4) - Stack this under 00:48:748 - tail? no need
01:02:940 (4) - Try this ? http://puu.sh/gv5d6/cf21cd7bb0.jpg ^
01:12:748 (3) - The end should be clickable ? Make it into this pattern ? http://puu.sh/gv5iS/2e96a9771d.jpg i dont think so
01:32:710 - Suggestion : Add a slider? And maybe change the SV ? http://puu.sh/gv5sf/c8d7239038.jpg interesting but i prefer this
01:46:094 (2) - Make the tail face downwards? nah
02:09:517 (4) - It would be nice if you're able to blanket this with the previous slider ! Idk I was thinking about like this , http://puu.sh/gv5Da/36e12d489a.jpg doesn't look good imo
02:41:709 (3,4,5) - Turn off grid snap and restack these? I dont think its properly stacked i tried
02:54:863 (2) - Nazii but curve this a bit ? k
03:01:324 (1) - Make this slider into the one you have on 03:00:401 (1) - nah
03:05:247 (1,2) - Move this down a bit ? ^
03:17:939 (1) - Rotate this ? http://puu.sh/gv5Xk/a2c610a6ab.jpg doesnt look as good, i also need flow break to indicate the 1/1
03:19:680 (4) - stack this on the next slider's tail ? http://puu.sh/gv60J/083e0a9a3d.jpg meh
03:57:613 (1) - CTRL + G ? wat the flow D:
04:27:977 (4) - Move this to x:288 y:144 ? pass
05:11:246 (4,5) - CTRL + G? ^

Okoratu wrote:

I'm calling major bg fight lol

SkinnyJommy wrote:

Hi, m4m from your queue! I haven't modded in a really long time, so sorry if it's bad :c

[Rosenkreuz]

00:04:183 (2) - Maybe you could make this a 1/2 repeat slider? To follow the violin/string sound better ok fixed after many ppl complaining ;w;

00:54:863 (1) - Move this to 248, 288 | 00:55:094 (2) - and this to 268, 304 | 00:55:671 (5) - and finally this to 368, 32 I think this flows a little better and overall looks cleaner then the original pattern that you had sorta fixed? idk

00:59:363 (4) - Stack this on top of 00:59:479 (1) - and add a circle at 00:59:421 I think a triple fits pretty well here because of the string build up nah

01:03:863 (3,4) - ctrl G here, having the 4 in the bottom right corner is pretty hard to hit, and doesn't flow very well imo. Hitting the 3 first seems better because of placement of 01:04:094 (1) - not really imo

01:11:825 - Add a circle here at 196, 152 no need

01:12:171 (3) - Maybe make this 2 circles instead of a slider? ruins my pattern :X

01:12:402 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe use this note sequence http://puu.sh/gwtVW.jpg sry not gunna fix any of these cuz i focus on drums/instruments

01:16:094 (1) - Make this a reverse slider and add a circle at 01:16:671 as b4

01:26:248 (1,2,3) - You could use this note sequence http://puu.sh/gwyTK.jpg

01:28:094 (1,2,3) - You could this note sequence too http://puu.sh/gwzjd.jpg

02:20:133 (4,5) - Try this note sequence instead http://puu.sh/gwE0Q.jpg

02:35:248 (4) - Make this a half slider, to go with the uhh.. whistle sort of sound? the ssssss sound ok

02:40:902 Adding a circle here sounds right too hard for this part

03:08:132 (2) - If you listen closely to this part, you can here the guitar starts on the white tick, so just moving this slider over to the white tick and adding a circle on top of the sliders head at 03:08:132 plays really nicely, like this http://puu.sh/gwED6.jpg as b4

03:19:785 - I think you could fit a 1/2 slider here, even slow down the SV if you want to simulate that guitar sound that happens at that part of the song i don't like that

05:43:785 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Maybe you could make all of these repeat sliders like the last slider of the song? It's fine if you don't though this one is fine tbh

Well that's it for my mod, It's probably really bad so sorry D:

Really great map though, its super fun

Good luck with this!!

Nozhomi wrote:

Heyo Kibb~ M4M request in-game <3

- General :

1. This is maybe stupid from me, but Preview Point is unsnaped (if you care of it ofc). whoops ><

- Rosenkreuz :

1. With these settings, I would go for HP6.5 or 6. too low
2. 00:08:850 (1) - Was it necessary to do as little curved ? Just do it straight. curves r life
3. 00:20:009 (2,3) - This part sounds really weird. You try to follow voice but you do it wrong because 00:20:842 (3) - don't start on it. To fix it, I suggest yeh this part is kinda weird, the big sliders are following the instruments, but i changed my HSing to make it seem like im following them now
4. 00:20:009 (2) - remove reverse and start 00:20:842 (3) - at 00:20:675 - .
5. 00:25:342 (2,3) - Same but end 00:26:009 (3) - to 00:26:759 - to match voice.
6. 00:27:175 (4) - Make it start to 00:27:092 - to match voice.
7. 00:42:176 (3,4,1,2) - Why one is stack and not the other while they are same rhythmic pattern ? That's weird imo should be same for both imo. cuz one is b4 slider and the other one is after hue
8. 00:52:560 (3) - What do you think about follow the shape of 00:53:021 (1) - like this ? (I make them close just dor example http://puu.sh/gDdti/3a4ac16f75.jpg&#41; this will looks better and improve a little flow with 00:52:790 (4) - . i thought im already doing this :C
9. 01:16:589 - to 01:40:098 - Everything is 1/8 unsnaped. ripperino
10. 01:17:050 (1) - I don't know but CTRL+G seems more logic for to play it. screw logic
11. 01:38:627 (2,3) - Custom stack or fail stack ? fail stack
12. 02:09:021 (2) - Curve it to make it similar to 02:09:175 (3) - looks cute ^^ http://puu.sh/gDemo/792b13e42c.jpg. cute indeed huehue
13. 02:41:021 (1,2,3,4,5) - Stack all of them is not a good idea imo. You diff have not a high density overall because you use a high spacing but here this is too much imo. I would unstack and split this in 3 parts (02:41:021 (1,2) - / 02:41:713 (3,4) - / 02:42:290 (5) - ) because it follow much better piano in background. this part is slow enough to read them kappa
14. 04:44:481 (1,2,3) - To be more coherent, use same spacing than 04:42:865 (1,2,3) - . cohered
15. 05:30:635 (4) - I would rotate this slider by -30° to reduce this breakflow with 05:30:865 (1) - . mm

I guess that's all...it's hard to mod hard map orz. Hope it help you
Mukyu~

1. 00:15:555 (3) - i guess i hear why you did this but i dunno if it is entirely accurate, you might want to just move this slider to begin on the red tick.
2. 00:27:175 (4) - why not make this a single note, and a long slider starting on the red tick that comes after, it certainly fits o:
3. 00:29:182 (1,2,3,4) - not a very pretty shape pattern thingy ;x;
4. 00:39:984 (2) - move the slider over 1 tick and place a note here? 00:39:984 -
   
   

Kibbleru wrote:

wat a god

!summon BNs

Fort wrote:

Kibbleru wrote:

wat a god

!summon BNs

you're BN

looks i cant deal with this ;_;

Rozenfuk:
idk vocal and synth timing is like wow

00:22:680 (2,3) - fix blanket xD k
00:39:984 (2) - change to 2 circle? ok denied k
00:51:175 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - this square ;_; PENTAGON
01:10:098 (2,3,4,5) - this pattern so cruel ;_; hehehehehehe
01:56:137 (2,3) - change to 1/2 slider? 2 circle work too
02:09:348 (4) - add triplet and stack it to 02:09:175 (3) - ? D: thats overmappu :C
02:16:675 (2,3,4,5) - this flow jump is highly rigid, its very hard to read this jump + stream pattern at first time ok
02:20:252 - why you skip vocal here? cuz i can mwahahahaha
02:21:406 (2,4) - ummm, i didnt see this slider curved. why you add some curve waypoint there? as above with the cuz i can mwahahha
02:57:866 - wow i like this part bro :3
03:03:520 (2) - oops, looks this slider unrankable cause this http://puu.sh/gJaeu/1192fc89cb.jpg, consider move slider to up a bit actually its fine if its off screen in editor, test in game
03:43:327 (3,4) - idk why this antijump very hard for me idk either
03:46:096 (2,3) - im sure i follow vocal sound pattern in this slider 03:45:635 (1) - , maybe add circle in 03:45:981 - and make 2 arrow in 03:46:096 (3) - better clicks vat
03:56:596 (5,1) - im really sure this spacing changes too damn high, compare with 03:56:481 (4,5) - spacing, its like 4x super jumping flow. im suggesting make jump same like this distance 03:55:673 (5,1) - . Yeah i know you cant reach that pattern tho nerfd
04:13:673 (2) - whoops, move slider end waypoint to x=0 pls whoop k
04:30:173 - why no circle? D: why not no circle

yeah i dun have idea for your map
here take my star

LOOKS THIS GONNA BE NEW HELL MAPS IN 2015 !!!!!! RURUCHI WILL RAPED BY THIS MAP HAHAHAHAHAHA \>:D/

AND THIS MAP IS LIKE NEW IMAGE MATERIAL VER. 2!! BUT WITHOUT LOOOOOOOONG STREAMS

I WANT TO SEE WWW PLAY THIS BUT HOW? D:

OH GOD WHY YOU READ ALL MY SPOILERS?!

/me runs

No Dap wrote:

#1

Kibbleru wrote:

03:03:520 (2) - oops, looks this slider unrankable cause this http://puu.sh/gJaeu/1192fc89cb.jpg, consider move slider to up a bit actually its fine if its off screen in editor, test in game

koreapenguin wrote:

DO NOT NINJA \o/

Kibbleru wrote:

http://arsmagnaxxx.web.fc2.com/ars017.html metadata

Ariabl'eyeS is the circle so we can leave Rena as artist

Ranking Criteria wrote:

Tracks created by composers belonging to doujin circles should list the circle's name as the main composer. The sole exception to this is when a composer of a given circle is well-known enough by their own name. In this case, their own composer name may be used instead.

koreapenguin wrote:

Yoshi

General

1. Seem fine :3 i guess

Rosenkreuz

1. how about decrease HP -0.5 it would be better to app map i think 7 is low enough owo, it was pretty easy to just pass it because drain is low
2. http://puu.sh/gLR2J/c64e5a0d5f.png i know it doesn't effect anything, but i recommend fixing it about vol for consistency k
3. 01:08:252 (3) - actually it's 1/6 there are has 4 hat sounds, but hear so some violin sounds is too strong than hat sounds also feel, it just kind of comes out of nowhere so how about follow violin sound? like this http://puu.sh/gLRkY/d8f2ec199d.jpg i prefer the hi hats
4. 01:57:290 (3,1) - how about swap newcombo here? doesn't rly make too much sense to me o-o
5. 02:01:790 (4) - i think this newcombo is make unnatural to play, i meant some jumps are if have no follow point then would be hard to read at high BPM, AR maps imo. so i recommend del newcombo here although i'm a noob player, i really don't think many people actually read the follow points o-o so NC helps a bit to read the jumps
6. 03:11:020 (1) - same here, displaying follow point would be better to playing. and it's half hidden at slider body so follow point is will make noticeable ^
7. 04:42:885 (1,2,3,1,2) - i just worried about this object's spacing refer to ex)04:37:096 (3,4) - , players are will confused for comes out of nowhere 1/3 notes ahhhhhhh hard to explain. it just personal opinion don't mind uhh i spaced it less i guess?

sorry for my bad english orz

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Hello Kibbleru.
Some people find that this map is not ready for approval. I checked and saw some gameplay issues. Note that this is a 260 BPM song, if you want to make something harder than image material, holy orders, or another metal song with a BPM > 250, Make sure that you can play them and know how they play. Playing them with Half time is really different. And mapping a 260 BPM is something else compared to mapping a <200 BPM song.

Rosenkreuz

1. 00:49:098 (3,4) - These circles are too close from each other, and this is kind of flow breaking because the movement must be a little slower. To make to movement smoother, there should be a higher distance between these circles. k
2. 00:51:175 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - I'm pretty sure 95% of players won't like this pattern, with this BPM, the player needs much aim to be able to handle this pattern, doing 2 circular movements when the song is fast is not really easy at all. Only few top players have enough aim. I recommend you to nerf the spacing here, or to do something else which is not circular. yes, i am aware that circular flow jump patterns are very hard to play, and i am doing this because i want to provide a challenge without making anything 'skystary' i guess. Most of where i use them are at the kiais and etc where it calls for difficulty spikes such as this. but i will fix this one because it doesn't really need any extra difficulty here q: I hope u understand what i mean ><, i didn't want this to be kind of a 'walk in the park' map that is for pp farming.
3. 01:09:637 (1,2,3,4,5) - The stream with 4 objects is really hard to get, because of this reversed slider 01:09:637 (1) - which forces the player to move downward. So, the jump between 01:09:637 (1) - and 01:10:098 (2) - is really large, and and should be decreased for the sake of playability. fix
4. 01:11:483 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - The rhythm here is pretty confusing, when playing this pattern 01:11:483 (1,2,3) -, the player expects that he is following vocals, but this pattern 01:12:406 (1,2,3,4) - does not follow vocals because you skipped this tick 01:12:867 - where a strong vocal note is audible. did something. to fix the consistency
5. 01:29:944 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - Same as what i said about circular movements for 00:51:175 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - and many more. although i really dont think this is really 'circular motion' read above.
6. 01:45:983 - I don't think that skipping this tick is a good idea, because you followed this tick on previous pattern, and this tick helps the player to follow the rhythm, i mean, when playing, you can feel that this is empty here. fix
7. 02:09:021 (2) - Here, the player can easily get a 100 because the direction of this slider is on the right, and the next slider is on the left. And due to the high BPM, objects are reeaaaallly fast. This is fine for a <220 BPM map, but really questionable for a 260 BPM song. So you should CTRL+G this slider 02:09:021 (2) - fix
8. 02:19:444 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - The movement here is a little kind of flow breaking. First, this is really difficult to handle this triangle 02:19:444 (3,4,5) - with a different DS between each circles. Plus, due to the speed of the map/song, it is really uncomfortable to play this 02:20:021 (3,4) - becase the player might get a sliderbreak here after a jump, and that's really frustrating (I got a sliderbreak here too, 4-5 times ;w;). So you should make something more "regular", which does not require really difficults movements. i hope this fixes it, i made it flow into the slider alot better
9. 03:10:905 (2,1) - This is a little ugly, (1) is half covered by the previous slider, and due to the BPM, it can be hard to read and not comfortable to play. So you should avoid the overlap here. made overlap less
10. 03:15:866 (5) - There is nothing audible on the blue tick, this is not really a good idea to use a 3/4 slider here, plus, the BPM is high and the probability to get a 100 here is high. fix
11. 03:21:982 (2,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - This jump is way harder compared to previous jump patterns you used, and this creates a spike. I think that this jump is a little overdone (spacing, circles) compared to your previous patterns, it should be better if they are nerfed. I know you want to follow the strong guitar, but accept that this pattern is a little overdone ;w; i added some sliders
12. 03:26:597 (2,1,2,3,4,1) - This jump pattern is ugly too, the player expects that there is a perfect square with 03:26:712 (1,2,3,4) - but the distance between each circles is different, and on a high BPM song it's really hard to play, even with a high Approach rate. You should remake this jump pattern. originally, i made the distance smaller because circle 4 is on a dimmer sound, but i made the DS larger i guess.
13. 03:47:019 (2,3,4,5) - same as ^, this looks a little weird and clunky, you should make a perfect trapeze pattern with these circles, so move this 03:47:135 (3) - a little upward. ehh i wana keep this one, its just my style ;w;
14. 03:55:558 (4,5) - srsly, when i saw this i said "awh god please, why ?" this antijump is not really comfortable to play at all.the jump between 03:55:327 (3,4) - is large and playing this circle 03:55:673 (5) - after (4) is a pain. It should be better if they are stacked. Same for 03:56:481 (4,5) - and 05:11:250 (4,5) - and 05:12:173 (4,5) - eheh, it was originally because of the drum there but fixed
15. 04:07:558 (5,6) - they are too close from each other, tit should be better if you avoid this antijump to make the movement smoother. k
16. 04:34:442 (4,1,2,3,4,1,2) - This pattern is a little messed up, even with 75% speed i didnt read it well. Because 04:34:212 (3) - 's direction is (1) and not (4), and due to the speed of the map, the song and the approach rate, this is not intuitive to play. fix
17. 04:42:865 (1,2,3,1) - This looks out of place compared to what i see before, i mean, you didnt use extreme DS for 1/3, you compressed them. These streams look a little overdone for what they follow. It should be better if you reduce the distance between circles. Same for 04:44:481 (1,2,3,1) - i really feel the next kiai could use such a build up like this to really give it some impact :c. also since the streams are kind of on its own, it is not too hard compared to before. 04:20:481 (3,4,5) - these are compressed because they were followed up by a bunch of jumps before.
18. 04:57:173 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - This movement is realllly weird, it looks like you placed these circles randomly, they don't flow nice because the distance between each circles is not the same. On a circular movement, it's kind of flow breaking and i'm pretty sure people won't like it. i disagree here :C i believe DS is consistent enough to make it flow well and movement isnt jittery either. it fits with the vocals too imo
19. 05:06:404 (1,2,3,4) - This jump pattern looks overdone compared to your previous jump patterns, the distance between these circles is extreme, and it's a 260 map... It is really hard to handle them, even with AR10 or 10.3. nerfed a bit
20. 05:39:173 (1,2,3,4) - This kind of movement is also weird, it is really easy to get a sliderbreak here 05:39:519 (4) - because of the speed of the map, the jump pattern forces you to move upward, when the slider's direction is downward. okay fixed

This map is not really ready to get approved, just 19 days after submission and few mods from experienced players.
When you map something difficult like this, make sure you can get testplays and feedbacks from experienced players/modders before getting icons. Ranking difficult maps is more difficult than ranking easier maps.
Many people were too excited to see this map approved, i don't want to start any drama about speedranking nor circlejerking but, accept the reality. This map lacks of testplays and constructive feedbacks from players who can play this map. And the ranking process of this map was messed up. reality hurtss ;w; /cries and runs

Call me back later when you finally feel ready.
ehh yeah, i was sort of expecting something like this. i guess i was kind of rushing it a bit.


btw, a Hatsuki Yura BG for a Ariabl'Eyes BG, find the logic ? /me runs

Cherry Blossom wrote:

btw, a Hatsuki Yura BG for a Ariabl'Eyes BG, find the logic ? /me runs

Okoratu wrote:

Cherry Blossom wrote:

btw, a Hatsuki Yura BG for a Ariabl'Eyes BG, find the logic ? /me runs

It has a Rosenkreuz though, which is the album title ;_;

pishifat wrote:

you're not supposed to have beats like 00:23:510 (3) - , which is supposed to be a white tick, on a blue tick. there needs to be timing points to reset which beats are white ticks despite not actually changing timing. (similar to downbeat reset, just smaller scale)

judging vocals is sketchy since points of emphasis are always too variable depending with each unique syllable. i dunno how precise you wanted to be either, but like 00:10:809 (3) - is not on a sound. usually that would be fine but if you're trying to get exact with vocals everywhere else it's kind of weird.

some instrumental stuff also seems barely off, like 00:20:843 (3) - , but it's probably k. one that may not be k is 00:26:110 (3) -

for the timing point at 05:43:789 (1) - doing something like https://osu.ppy.sh/b/662590 this map at the end would probably be more correct. it's just emphasis on a different sound, so the consistent timing from before feels off, but bpm isn't getting any slower. on that example though gero fucked up the second timing point , which should be on 139984 instead of 139894 lmao unrank incoming

[ S a k u r a ] wrote:

SPOILER

I think I did it

Kyubey wrote:

You could at least answer to me, why do you still keep Rena as artist.

Anxient wrote:

no 6.66 stars? okay.

Squigly wrote:

kindly wait for more mods, that was such an early bubble, at its current state and as good a map as it may be i can still easily point out some things

1. 01:08:598 (4,1,2) - This motion which looks uncomfortable to play, the angle is really large and the flow is a little bad. If you want to keep this kind of motion, there should be the same distance between each circles 01:08:598 (4,1,2) - at least.
2. 01:50:944 (3,4,1) - This lacks of harmony, these circles looks randomnly placed and the flow here is not really good, try to make something more structured.
3. 02:01:790 (1,2,3) - here, there is a little angle, and that can make this pattern a little hard to read (when i testplayed, i was a little surprised by the stream), you should move 02:02:021 (3,4,5,1) - a little on the right to make this pattern more readable.
4. 02:22:098 (1,2,3,4,1) - uuuuuuuuuuh, do you realize what is this kind of motion? it is something which REALLY DIFFICULT to handle, even with ar 10.3. This kind of "S" movement is not comfortable to play at all. You should make something else with 02:22:098 (1,2,3,4) - because when playing, i was lost here.
5. 04:58:096 (5,6,1) - When playing this pattern, that was really weird, because the distance between each sliders 04:58:096 (5,6,1) - is not the same, and the player has to slow down between 04:58:327 (6,1) - , and that make the movement not fluid, try to make something like a triangle like this :
   
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Cherry Blossom wrote:

Squigly wrote:

kindly wait for more mods, that was such an early bubble, at its current state and as good a map as it may be i can still easily point out some things

Yes, Squigly is right, there are still some things that are a little weird and clunky, like.

1. 01:08:598 (4,1,2) - This motion which looks uncomfortable to play, the angle is really large and the flow is a little bad. If you want to keep this kind of motion, there should be the same distance between each circles 01:08:598 (4,1,2) - at least. made it more zig zag?
2. 01:50:944 (3,4,1) - This lacks of harmony, these circles looks randomnly placed and the flow here is not really good, try to make something more structured. uhh i really don't see a problem with this, looks clear and flow isn't that bad.
3. 02:01:790 (1,2,3) - here, there is a little angle, and that can make this pattern a little hard to read (when i testplayed, i was a little surprised by the stream), you should move 02:02:021 (3,4,5,1) - a little on the right to make this pattern more readable. fix
4. 02:22:098 (1,2,3,4,1) - uuuuuuuuuuh, do you realize what is this kind of motion? it is something which REALLY DIFFICULT to handle, even with ar 10.3. This kind of "S" movement is not comfortable to play at all. You should make something else with 02:22:098 (1,2,3,4) - because when playing, i was lost here. changed
5. 04:58:096 (5,6,1) - When playing this pattern, that was really weird, because the distance between each sliders 04:58:096 (5,6,1) - is not the same, and the player has to slow down between 04:58:327 (6,1) - , and that make the movement not fluid, try to make something like a triangle like this :
   
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   did something else but it shud be okay now

My personal opinion about this map. There are too many overlaps, i think it is your style. But overlaps on a 260BPM map are not really easy to read, your eyes must anticipate the next object which is hidden or overlapped by another object, and that makes this map not comfortable to play, too many patterns which are not intuitive to play, and the gameplay is hurt. that's just my style, and in all honesty, i didn't really see any1 who was testplaying mess up on the overlaps at least. but if you point out some of the more confusing ones, i will be more than happy to fix

This map needs definitely more mods, that's nice to get other opinions from other experienced players and modders, but I/we want to see more improvements on this map. And see what makes this map better. Call be back later when you finally feel ready.

Okoratu wrote:

are you even serious

Kibbleru wrote:

nvm i think im just gunna grave this. my style doesn't fit high bpm.
was a nice song too rip.

Cherry Blossom wrote:

Kibbleru wrote:

nvm i think im just gunna grave this. my style doesn't fit high bpm.
was a nice song too rip.

So i wasted time ? I rather should say "we" (All modders, and YOU, the mapper).
Please, don't give up, i won't let this map in graveyard section just for quality issues. If you're enough motivated, issues could be fixed within a few days.