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Ariabl'eyeS - Kegare naki Bara Juuji

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Kibbleru
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on August 24, 2016 at 10:53:59 PM

Artist: Ariabl'eyeS
Title: Kegare naki Bara Juuji
Tags: 瑠璃色のローゼンクロイツ Ruriiro no Rena Lyse リゼ Rosicrucian pkk pkmnyab
BPM: 88.1
Filesize: 10713kb
Play Time: 05:47
Difficulties Available:
  1. pk's Rosicrucianism (5.46 stars, 1304 notes)
  2. Rosenkreuz (7.14 stars, 1321 notes)
Download: Ariabl'eyeS - Kegare naki Bara Juuji
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Probably the hardest thing that I have and ever will make.
Ty Vincent for most of the hitsounding.
Ty Meyrink for timing xD.
Prime example of when u should not follow vocals q:

Rest in Peace Garven-Meow
Rest in Peace Old diff

blame kite


Kibbleru inc.™
Meyrink
Ninja'd 1st heheheh
[Vincent]
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:D
Nathan
whoa
Topic Starter
Kibbleru
ty for hitsounds vincent c:

posting this here so i can click timestamps
Some questionable hitsounds u may wanna review:
00:43:787 (1) - that head
01:09:633 (1) - 2nd/3rd circle on the slider (possible snare?)
01:41:479 (2) - possible bass+snare? (more in the same section)
01:50:594 (2) - ?
02:09:017 (2) - questionable sample
02:56:940 (2) - head
03:27:055 (4) - want to add snare for consistency or follow truly to the music?
04:42:861 (1,2,3,1,2) - /me shrugs
04:58:554 (1) - derp
05:00:400 (1,2,3,1) - bass+snare?
05:04:092 (1,2,3,4,5) - not 100% sure bout this

also applied w/e changes necessary about ur concerns
Garven
Meow
Kinshara
Woof
guineaQ
Rawr
Topic Starter
Kibbleru
Moo
pkk
Nyao~
Ringating
from my queue:

found this version and just cropped to 1366x768 to avoid rescaling.also made a horizontally flipped version, so the characters are more visible on the song select screen (i.e. not covered by song titles)no kds
Topic Starter
Kibbleru
ty ringating
guineaQ
somebody give ringating Graphics Assistance Team title already
toybot
M4M from queue

oh god, as i said in irc i won't be able to mod this sufficiently :p

[Rosenkreuz]
  1. 00:39:018 (6,7) - I recommend removing these, since there's no 1/6 beat unlike 00:40:787 (4,5,6) - . plus, removing those would accent (5) imo
  2. 00:47:133 (3,4) - these contrasting movements are pretty hard and awkward, I think. Having (4) slide upwards instead of to the left would have better flow
  3. I'm not really fond of the fact that a lot of the parts where the vocal follows half-beat half-beat, you map it as dotted-quarter dotted-quarter quarter. If you could change those patterns (01:12:402 (1,2,3,4) - , 01:17:940 (1,2,3) - , 01:28:094 (1,2,3) - , etc.) to emphasize the half beats it would prob improve rhythmically. But if you can't find any better implementation for those patterns to follow the rhythm, oh well :P
  4. 02:41:709 (2,3,4,5) - (2) leading into (3) feels a little too crowded, maybe have (3)'s slider move downwards?
  5. 03:55:554 (4,5,4,5) - I'm not really sure about these circles as a replacement for sliders. The benefit of those sliders was that you didn't have to move so far, making movement into the next slider much easier.
  6. 05:11:246 (4,5,4,5) - Same as above suggestion
  7. 04:12:400 (1) - It would be nice if you somewhat stacked this on top of the next slider's head. The angle of the jump when you place it like that feels nice :3
  8. 04:41:015 (1) - Why is this so muted? Sounds weird as a finish to such a strong part of the song
I guess this mod was okay, pro map

Good luck! ^^
pkk
and so it begins
Topic Starter
Kibbleru

toybot wrote:

M4M from queue

oh god, as i said in irc i won't be able to mod this sufficiently :p

[Rosenkreuz]
  1. 00:39:018 (6,7) - I recommend removing these, since there's no 1/6 beat unlike 00:40:787 (4,5,6) - . plus, removing those would accent (5) imo yeh i agree but it's kinda weird if i map this 00:38:018 (2) - but don't map the 1/6
  2. 00:47:133 (3,4) - these contrasting movements are pretty hard and awkward, I think. Having (4) slide upwards instead of to the left would have better flow fix did something
  3. I'm not really fond of the fact that a lot of the parts where the vocal follows half-beat half-beat, you map it as dotted-quarter dotted-quarter quarter. If you could change those patterns (01:12:402 (1,2,3,4) - , 01:17:940 (1,2,3) - , 01:28:094 (1,2,3) - , etc.) to emphasize the half beats it would prob improve rhythmically. But if you can't find any better implementation for those patterns to follow the rhythm, oh well :P aha, its just something i do :X lol but following vocals would be quite hard for this map since the vocals are so off time
  4. 02:41:709 (2,3,4,5) - (2) leading into (3) feels a little too crowded, maybe have (3)'s slider move downwards? think it seems fine tbh o-o i dont think moving 3 downards would help much, but the link was a bit weird so idk if u linked the right thing
  5. 03:55:554 (4,5,4,5) - I'm not really sure about these circles as a replacement for sliders. The benefit of those sliders was that you didn't have to move so far, making movement into the next slider much easier. well i have 2 circles instead because u can hear the kicks and stuff there
  6. 05:11:246 (4,5,4,5) - Same as above suggestion ^
  7. 04:12:400 (1) - It would be nice if you somewhat stacked this on top of the next slider's head. The angle of the jump when you place it like that feels nice :3 moved it a bit,, i wana try to keep this general shape
  8. 04:41:015 (1) - Why is this so muted? Sounds weird as a finish to such a strong part of the song oops o-o
I guess this mod was okay, pro map

Good luck! ^^
ty ^^
toybot

Kibbleru wrote:

toybot wrote:

M4M from queue

  1. 02:41:709 (2,3,4,5) - (2) leading into (3) feels a little too crowded, maybe have (3)'s slider move downwards? think it seems fine tbh o-o i dont think moving 3 downards would help much, but the link was a bit weird so idk if u linked the right thing
Oops, i guess i need better explanation, here's picture of what I mean, same link:

(3) moving downward like that would better accent the piano imo
Nathan

Kibbleru wrote:

pishifat wrote:

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
yolo
sexy garven

[Rosenkreuz]
  1. 03:01:324 (1) - Curving this should flow slightly better, it would carry more rightward movement coming from the jump on 03:01:208 (5), basically the same thing as 02:59:362 (5,1)
  2. 03:02:939 (4) - Ctrl+g here would probably play smoother, with the current one you create momentum for the opposite direction the player needs to move to jump onto 03:03:170 (1)
  3. 04:20:361 (2) - Try this maybe
  4. 04:20:477 (3) - Maybe NC here for the 1/3?
  5. 04:51:977 (4,1) - Shouldn't the spacing here be larger than in 04:51:861 (3,4) it's much more emphasized owo
idk wat i'm doing
Topic Starter
Kibbleru

sukiNathan wrote:

yolo
sexy garven

[Rosenkreuz]
  1. 03:01:324 (1) - Curving this should flow slightly better, it would carry more rightward movement coming from the jump on 03:01:208 (5), basically the same thing as 02:59:362 (5,1) uhh i think its flows well enough though
  2. 03:02:939 (4) - Ctrl+g here would probably play smoother, with the current one you create momentum for the opposite direction the player needs to move to jump onto 03:03:170 (1) breaking flow on purpose for emphasis on the violin
  3. 04:20:361 (2) - Try this maybe blah looks bad to me lol
  4. 04:20:477 (3) - Maybe NC here for the 1/3? makes sense, but ill consider this late since it seems a bit spammed to NC
  5. 04:51:977 (4,1) - Shouldn't the spacing here be larger than in 04:51:861 (3,4) it's much more emphasized owo ah, well ur right, but. idk its another one of the things i just do lol.
idk wat i'm doing
@toybot that doesn't look bad but i want the antijump since i think it works rly well

ty u guys!
Nathan
oh yeah also shouldn't the OD be higher, with this bpm the time frame to hit a note is already very small
Topic Starter
Kibbleru

sukiNathan wrote:

oh yeah also shouldn't the OD be higher, with this bpm the time frame to hit a note is already very small
yeah ur probably right ill put it up a bit
Aerous
Meow! Uhh m4m from your queue

Hope this helps because this is going to be a bad mod ;-; / Most of these are my opinions btw

00:04:203 (2) - Change this long slider into this ? Sounds better , http://puu.sh/gv3Wy/13819d906d.jpg
00:14:722 (2) - Move this to here ? http://puu.sh/gv4C7/f89157e29e.jpg
00:15:555 (3) - Delete this and add a circle here instead : 00:15:822 -
00:27:175(4) - Make this into a single note and add a spinner afterwards?
00:40:210 - Add a note here?
00:44:249 (3,4) CTRL + G these two notes? http://puu.sh/gv4ZA/2958198170.jpg
00:49:210 (4) - Stack this under 00:48:748 - tail?
01:02:940 (4) - Try this ? http://puu.sh/gv5d6/cf21cd7bb0.jpg
01:12:748 (3) - The end should be clickable ? Make it into this pattern ? http://puu.sh/gv5iS/2e96a9771d.jpg
01:32:710 - Suggestion : Add a slider? And maybe change the SV ? http://puu.sh/gv5sf/c8d7239038.jpg
01:46:094 (2) - Make the tail face downwards?
02:09:517 (4) - It would be nice if you're able to blanket this with the previous slider ! Idk I was thinking about like this , http://puu.sh/gv5Da/36e12d489a.jpg
02:41:709 (3,4,5) - Turn off grid snap and restack these? I dont think its properly stacked
02:54:863 (2) - Nazii but curve this a bit ?
03:01:324 (1) - Make this slider into the one you have on 03:00:401 (1) -
03:05:247 (1,2) - Move this down a bit ?
03:17:939 (1) - Rotate this ? http://puu.sh/gv5Xk/a2c610a6ab.jpg
03:19:680 (4) - stack this on the next slider's tail ? http://puu.sh/gv60J/083e0a9a3d.jpg
03:57:613 (1) - CTRL + G ?
04:27:977 (4) - Move this to x:288 y:144 ?
05:11:246 (4,5) - CTRL + G?
Topic Starter
Kibbleru

Aerous wrote:

Meow! Uhh m4m from your queue

Hope this helps because this is going to be a bad mod ;-; / Most of these are my opinions btw

00:04:203 (2) - Change this long slider into this ? Sounds better , http://puu.sh/gv3Wy/13819d906d.jpg its okay
00:14:722 (2) - Move this to here ? http://puu.sh/gv4C7/f89157e29e.jpg ^
00:15:555 (3) - Delete this and add a circle here instead : 00:15:822 - there is piano
00:27:175(4) - Make this into a single note and add a spinner afterwards? i really hate ppl using spinners retardedly.
00:40:210 - Add a note here? prefer to follow drums
00:44:249 (3,4) CTRL + G these two notes? http://puu.sh/gv4ZA/2958198170.jpg interesting okay
00:49:210 (4) - Stack this under 00:48:748 - tail? no need
01:02:940 (4) - Try this ? http://puu.sh/gv5d6/cf21cd7bb0.jpg ^
01:12:748 (3) - The end should be clickable ? Make it into this pattern ? http://puu.sh/gv5iS/2e96a9771d.jpg i dont think so
01:32:710 - Suggestion : Add a slider? And maybe change the SV ? http://puu.sh/gv5sf/c8d7239038.jpg interesting but i prefer this
01:46:094 (2) - Make the tail face downwards? nah
02:09:517 (4) - It would be nice if you're able to blanket this with the previous slider ! Idk I was thinking about like this , http://puu.sh/gv5Da/36e12d489a.jpg doesn't look good imo
02:41:709 (3,4,5) - Turn off grid snap and restack these? I dont think its properly stacked i tried
02:54:863 (2) - Nazii but curve this a bit ? k
03:01:324 (1) - Make this slider into the one you have on 03:00:401 (1) - nah
03:05:247 (1,2) - Move this down a bit ? ^
03:17:939 (1) - Rotate this ? http://puu.sh/gv5Xk/a2c610a6ab.jpg doesnt look as good, i also need flow break to indicate the 1/1
03:19:680 (4) - stack this on the next slider's tail ? http://puu.sh/gv60J/083e0a9a3d.jpg meh
03:57:613 (1) - CTRL + G ? wat the flow D:
04:27:977 (4) - Move this to x:288 y:144 ? pass
05:11:246 (4,5) - CTRL + G? ^
ty
Okoratu
I'm calling major bg fight lol
Topic Starter
Kibbleru

Okoratu wrote:

I'm calling major bg fight lol
lol
actually i was considering to using the old one that yauxo had b4 he deleted his map
SkinnyJommy
Hi, m4m from your queue! I haven't modded in a really long time, so sorry if it's bad :c

[Rosenkreuz]

00:04:183 (2) - Maybe you could make this a 1/2 repeat slider? To follow the violin/string sound better

00:54:863 (1) - Move this to 248, 288 | 00:55:094 (2) - and this to 268, 304 | 00:55:671 (5) - and finally this to 368, 32 I think this flows a little better and overall looks cleaner then the original pattern that you had

00:59:363 (4) - Stack this on top of 00:59:479 (1) - and add a circle at 00:59:421 I think a triple fits pretty well here because of the string build up

01:03:863 (3,4) - ctrl G here, having the 4 in the bottom right corner is pretty hard to hit, and doesn't flow very well imo. Hitting the 3 first seems better because of placement of 01:04:094 (1) -

01:11:825 - Add a circle here at 196, 152

01:12:171 (3) - Maybe make this 2 circles instead of a slider?

01:12:402 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe use this note sequence http://puu.sh/gwtVW.jpg

01:16:094 (1) - Make this a reverse slider and add a circle at 01:16:671

01:26:248 (1,2,3) - You could use this note sequence http://puu.sh/gwyTK.jpg

01:28:094 (1,2,3) - You could this note sequence too http://puu.sh/gwzjd.jpg

02:20:133 (4,5) - Try this note sequence instead http://puu.sh/gwE0Q.jpg

02:35:248 (4) - Make this a half slider, to go with the uhh.. whistle sort of sound? the ssssss sound

02:40:902 Adding a circle here sounds right

03:08:132 (2) - If you listen closely to this part, you can here the guitar starts on the white tick, so just moving this slider over to the white tick and adding a circle on top of the sliders head at 03:08:132 plays really nicely, like this http://puu.sh/gwED6.jpg

03:19:785 - I think you could fit a 1/2 slider here, even slow down the SV if you want to simulate that guitar sound that happens at that part of the song

05:43:785 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Maybe you could make all of these repeat sliders like the last slider of the song? It's fine if you don't though

Well that's it for my mod, It's probably really bad so sorry D:

Really great map though, its super fun

Good luck with this!!
Topic Starter
Kibbleru

SkinnyJommy wrote:

Hi, m4m from your queue! I haven't modded in a really long time, so sorry if it's bad :c

[Rosenkreuz]

00:04:183 (2) - Maybe you could make this a 1/2 repeat slider? To follow the violin/string sound better ok fixed after many ppl complaining ;w;

00:54:863 (1) - Move this to 248, 288 | 00:55:094 (2) - and this to 268, 304 | 00:55:671 (5) - and finally this to 368, 32 I think this flows a little better and overall looks cleaner then the original pattern that you had sorta fixed? idk

00:59:363 (4) - Stack this on top of 00:59:479 (1) - and add a circle at 00:59:421 I think a triple fits pretty well here because of the string build up nah

01:03:863 (3,4) - ctrl G here, having the 4 in the bottom right corner is pretty hard to hit, and doesn't flow very well imo. Hitting the 3 first seems better because of placement of 01:04:094 (1) - not really imo

01:11:825 - Add a circle here at 196, 152 no need

01:12:171 (3) - Maybe make this 2 circles instead of a slider? ruins my pattern :X

01:12:402 (1,2,3,4) - Maybe use this note sequence http://puu.sh/gwtVW.jpg sry not gunna fix any of these cuz i focus on drums/instruments

01:16:094 (1) - Make this a reverse slider and add a circle at 01:16:671 as b4

01:26:248 (1,2,3) - You could use this note sequence http://puu.sh/gwyTK.jpg

01:28:094 (1,2,3) - You could this note sequence too http://puu.sh/gwzjd.jpg

02:20:133 (4,5) - Try this note sequence instead http://puu.sh/gwE0Q.jpg

02:35:248 (4) - Make this a half slider, to go with the uhh.. whistle sort of sound? the ssssss sound ok

02:40:902 Adding a circle here sounds right too hard for this part

03:08:132 (2) - If you listen closely to this part, you can here the guitar starts on the white tick, so just moving this slider over to the white tick and adding a circle on top of the sliders head at 03:08:132 plays really nicely, like this http://puu.sh/gwED6.jpg as b4

03:19:785 - I think you could fit a 1/2 slider here, even slow down the SV if you want to simulate that guitar sound that happens at that part of the song i don't like that

05:43:785 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - Maybe you could make all of these repeat sliders like the last slider of the song? It's fine if you don't though this one is fine tbh

Well that's it for my mod, It's probably really bad so sorry D:

Really great map though, its super fun

Good luck with this!!
ty
Ozato Fumika
no pentagon rapes please

kds please
Nozhomi
Heyo Kibb~ M4M request in-game <3

- General :
  1. This is maybe stupid from me, but Preview Point is unsnaped (if you care of it ofc).

- Rosenkreuz :
  1. With these settings, I would go for HP6.5 or 6.
  2. 00:08:850 (1) - Was it necessary to do as little curved ? Just do it straight.
  3. 00:20:009 (2,3) - This part sounds really weird. You try to follow voice but you do it wrong because 00:20:842 (3) - don't start on it. To fix it, I suggest
  4. 00:20:009 (2) - remove reverse and start 00:20:842 (3) - at 00:20:675 - .
  5. 00:25:342 (2,3) - Same but end 00:26:009 (3) - to 00:26:759 - to match voice.
  6. 00:27:175 (4) - Make it start to 00:27:092 - to match voice.
  7. 00:42:176 (3,4,1,2) - Why one is stack and not the other while they are same rhythmic pattern ? That's weird imo should be same for both imo.
  8. 00:52:560 (3) - What do you think about follow the shape of 00:53:021 (1) - like this ? (I make them close just dor example http://puu.sh/gDdti/3a4ac16f75.jpg&#41; this will looks better and improve a little flow with 00:52:790 (4) - .
  9. 01:16:589 - to 01:40:098 - Everything is 1/8 unsnaped.
  10. 01:17:050 (1) - I don't know but CTRL+G seems more logic for to play it.
  11. 01:38:627 (2,3) - Custom stack or fail stack ?
  12. 02:09:021 (2) - Curve it to make it similar to 02:09:175 (3) - looks cute ^^ http://puu.sh/gDemo/792b13e42c.jpg.
  13. 02:41:021 (1,2,3,4,5) - Stack all of them is not a good idea imo. You diff have not a high density overall because you use a high spacing but here this is too much imo. I would unstack and split this in 3 parts (02:41:021 (1,2) - / 02:41:713 (3,4) - / 02:42:290 (5) - ) because it follow much better piano in background.
  14. 04:44:481 (1,2,3) - To be more coherent, use same spacing than 04:42:865 (1,2,3) - .
  15. 05:30:635 (4) - I would rotate this slider by -30° to reduce this breakflow with 05:30:865 (1) - .

I guess that's all...it's hard to mod hard map orz. Hope it help you :)
Mukyu~
Topic Starter
Kibbleru

Nozhomi wrote:

Heyo Kibb~ M4M request in-game <3

- General :
  1. This is maybe stupid from me, but Preview Point is unsnaped (if you care of it ofc). whoops ><

- Rosenkreuz :
  1. With these settings, I would go for HP6.5 or 6. too low
  2. 00:08:850 (1) - Was it necessary to do as little curved ? Just do it straight. curves r life
  3. 00:20:009 (2,3) - This part sounds really weird. You try to follow voice but you do it wrong because 00:20:842 (3) - don't start on it. To fix it, I suggest yeh this part is kinda weird, the big sliders are following the instruments, but i changed my HSing to make it seem like im following them now
  4. 00:20:009 (2) - remove reverse and start 00:20:842 (3) - at 00:20:675 - .
  5. 00:25:342 (2,3) - Same but end 00:26:009 (3) - to 00:26:759 - to match voice.
  6. 00:27:175 (4) - Make it start to 00:27:092 - to match voice.
  7. 00:42:176 (3,4,1,2) - Why one is stack and not the other while they are same rhythmic pattern ? That's weird imo should be same for both imo. cuz one is b4 slider and the other one is after hue
  8. 00:52:560 (3) - What do you think about follow the shape of 00:53:021 (1) - like this ? (I make them close just dor example http://puu.sh/gDdti/3a4ac16f75.jpg&#41; this will looks better and improve a little flow with 00:52:790 (4) - . i thought im already doing this :C
  9. 01:16:589 - to 01:40:098 - Everything is 1/8 unsnaped. ripperino
  10. 01:17:050 (1) - I don't know but CTRL+G seems more logic for to play it. screw logic
  11. 01:38:627 (2,3) - Custom stack or fail stack ? fail stack
  12. 02:09:021 (2) - Curve it to make it similar to 02:09:175 (3) - looks cute ^^ http://puu.sh/gDemo/792b13e42c.jpg. cute indeed huehue
  13. 02:41:021 (1,2,3,4,5) - Stack all of them is not a good idea imo. You diff have not a high density overall because you use a high spacing but here this is too much imo. I would unstack and split this in 3 parts (02:41:021 (1,2) - / 02:41:713 (3,4) - / 02:42:290 (5) - ) because it follow much better piano in background. this part is slow enough to read them kappa
  14. 04:44:481 (1,2,3) - To be more coherent, use same spacing than 04:42:865 (1,2,3) - . cohered
  15. 05:30:635 (4) - I would rotate this slider by -30° to reduce this breakflow with 05:30:865 (1) - . mm

I guess that's all...it's hard to mod hard map orz. Hope it help you :)
Mukyu~
Mukyu~
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