15:53 LixRei: Gaia, are you alive?
15:53 Gaia: yup
15:53 LixRei: Yay! Now... I read what you said, but... do you have time now?
15:53 Gaia: here for that irc?
15:53 LixRei: Yeah.
15:53 Gaia: yeah i just finished modding
15:53 Gaia: np me
15:53 *LixRei is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/559853 Amamiya Sora - Tsuki Akari]
15:54 Gaia: alright lemme redl
15:54 LixRei: Alright. I'll wait.
15:54 Gaia: this is a nice song hehe
15:55 LixRei: Yeah, I like it a lot.
15:55 Gaia: first of all normal CS3
15:55 Gaia: it's the easiest diff on ur set
15:55 Gaia: meaning people who'd be playing easys have to play this too
15:55 LixRei: Hm. You're right on that.
15:55 Gaia: Moonlight cs4
15:56 Gaia: it's supposedly an insane
15:56 Gaia: but
15:56 Gaia: this is a slow song and its sr is like a hard
15:56 LixRei: There isn't any need to get leaded by SR, is there?
15:57 Gaia: not really
15:57 Gaia: ive told you before that your mapping is like
15:57 Gaia: old style right
15:57 Gaia: lol
15:57 LixRei: Yesh, I know.
15:57 Gaia: small CS contributes a lot to that
15:57 Gaia: look at the newer songs
15:58 Gaia: insanes are all cs4
15:58 Gaia: or around cs4
15:58 Gaia: I put mine at 4.1 just to be special tehe
15:58 LixRei: Oh, yeah. Most new songs use that.
15:58 LixRei: lol
15:58 LixRei: But... as hard as it costs me to admit, I think this CS is fine.
15:59 Gaia: well it's your song so i wont force the idea on you lol
15:59 Gaia: but my honest opinon
15:59 Gaia: and i strongly recommend u use cs4
15:59 Gaia: anyways
15:59 LixRei: Since you mention it, I'll keep it in mind
15:59 Gaia: cool
15:59 Gaia: which diff do u want me to look at first?
16:00 LixRei: I'll let you go your way.
16:01 Gaia: you have some big spacings in ur normal
16:02 Gaia: personally i'd use like
16:02 Gaia: 1.3x ds
16:02 Gaia: it's a slow song
16:02 Gaia: so make 1/2's almost touch but not really
16:03 Gaia: about ur map
16:03 Gaia: thing is that you should make your patterns reflect one another more
16:03 Gaia: 00:00:660 (1,2,3,4) -
16:03 Gaia: 1 and 2 look fine together
16:03 Gaia: 3 and 4 are alright
16:03 Gaia: but all together they have nothing to do with eachother
16:04 Gaia: 00:05:934 (1,2,3,4) - this is cool
16:04 Gaia: the usage of straight sliders too
16:04 LixRei: About reflecting, could you tell me a bit more?
16:04 Gaia: uhh like this 00:16:484 (1) - 00:19:121 (4) -
16:05 Gaia: something like this 00:05:934 (1,2,3,4) -
16:05 Gaia: like
16:05 Gaia: it looks united
16:05 Gaia: it's fine if they're kinda not
16:05 Gaia: if they're not the same combo
16:05 Gaia: but try to make 1 combo 1 pattern
16:05 LixRei: Hm. I understand your point.
16:05 Gaia: it's called a pattern for a reason
16:06 Gaia: it's a sequence right
16:06 Gaia: 00:01:978 (2,3) - these two just don't connect
16:06 LixRei: Yeah, that is right.
16:06 LixRei: Yeah. They're kinda different.
16:07 Gaia: if it was something like this though
16:07 Gaia:
http://puu.sh/dH5WD/8bd505c16e.jpg16:07 Gaia: (2) flows nicely into 3
16:07 Gaia: and it also blankets 4
16:08 LixRei: Hm. That seems good. I think it would be a nice idea.
16:08 Gaia: yah
16:08 Gaia: so just keep that in mind
16:08 Gaia: for every map you make really
16:08 LixRei: Yep.
16:08 Gaia: also
16:08 Gaia: you want to avoid making your flow going in a full circle
16:09 Gaia: i used to do that when i was a new mapper
16:09 Gaia: then someone told me i thought made a lot of sense
16:09 Gaia: if you're just gonna go in circles you might as well put in a spinner
16:09 Gaia: lol
16:09 Gaia: so something like this basically 00:11:209 (1,2,3,4) -
16:09 LixRei: Whoa... lol
16:10 Gaia: 00:16:484 (1,2,3,4,5) - the next combo continues in a circle too actually
16:10 Gaia: 00:21:758 (1) - this in the corner just looks completely random
16:11 LixRei: That's the way DS works... >.>
16:11 LixRei: Doesn't let me do anything else.
16:11 Gaia: put it like this
16:11 Gaia: wait
16:12 Gaia:
http://puu.sh/dH6kx/c245f78e9e.jpg16:12 Gaia: 1 blankets (4)
16:13 Gaia: like i said earlier i think u should decrease ur ds
16:13 Gaia: u might wanna fix the blankets on these lol 00:29:670 (1,2) -
16:14 Gaia: 00:30:659 (2,3) - ok here's another problem
16:14 Gaia: it doesnt really look good and the flow is an issue
16:14 Gaia: 00:31:649 (3) - feel free to stack this on the head of 00:29:670 (1) -
16:14 Gaia: it flows nicely and makes a nice pattern
16:14 Gaia: and curve it too
16:15 Gaia: since 1 and 2 were both curved
16:15 LixRei: Oh, yes. I thought it wasn't that much of a problem since slider aims in that direction
16:15 LixRei: And players look to the place they're being leaded.
16:18 Gaia: alright well
16:19 Gaia: just keep that stuff in mind for the rest of this diff lol
16:19 Gaia: also be careful with the stacks
16:19 *Gaia is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/559852 Amamiya Sora - Tsuki Akari [Hard]]
16:20 Gaia: 00:04:616 (6) - probably preference but diagonal squigly sliders are kinda ugly imo
16:20 Gaia: 00:08:572 (1) - ^
16:20 Gaia: 00:17:802 (5,6) - this flow
16:21 Gaia: just watch for flow stuffs
16:21 LixRei: I'll be careful.
16:21 Gaia: 00:22:418 (3,4,5) - this pattern is kinda random too
16:21 Gaia: flow basically
16:22 Gaia: cuz your cursor is going down then it's suddenly pulled up
16:22 Gaia: for the 1/4
16:23 Gaia: honestly, sometimes simple patterns can look great
16:23 Gaia: like this 00:42:857 (1,2) -
16:23 Gaia: i really like this
16:23 LixRei: I think I spammed this diff of those things...
16:23 LixRei: Whey're everywhere.
16:23 LixRei: *they
16:23 Gaia: lol
16:23 Gaia: well
16:24 Gaia: are u talking about this? 00:25:714 (3,4,1) -
16:24 LixRei: Oh, not really...
16:24 Gaia: this pretty much goes back to what i said earlier about consistency and sequence
16:24 Gaia: cuz
16:25 Gaia: 00:25:714 (3,4) - on its own works
16:25 Gaia: 00:26:374 (4,1) - on its own works
16:25 Gaia: but when u combine it it looks messy
16:25 Gaia: cuz it looks like half of 00:48:132 (1,2,3,4) -
16:25 Gaia: with a random slider
16:26 Gaia: idk if that made sense LOL
16:26 LixRei: I think the NC marker there is enough to mark a change...
16:26 LixRei: But Idk.
16:26 Gaia: even tho theres an nc you should still try to make them match
16:27 LixRei: Wait a minute. Someone is calling me.
16:27 Gaia: k
16:27 LixRei: Back. Honestly, I don't even know why did I bothered with that...
16:27 Gaia: ?
16:28 LixRei: Don't mind. It's nothing.
16:28 Gaia: 01:14:506 (1,2) - overlaps like these dont looks great
16:29 Gaia: 00:53:407 (1,2,3) - i like the idea but it can look even better like this
16:29 Gaia:
http://puu.sh/dH7yt/7fabf02071.jpg16:29 Gaia: copy and paste
16:29 Gaia: equal spacing
16:29 Gaia: it looks a lot cleaner
16:30 LixRei: Ya, I had that in mind for a while already.
16:30 LixRei: I wanted to make some landing on last slider, and that's why I used DS there.
16:30 Gaia: ?
16:31 Gaia: it's hard u dont have to use ds
16:31 Gaia: i mean
16:31 Gaia: throughout
16:31 LixRei: I know that... But it just came into my mind like that, then other ideas went on my mind.
16:31 Gaia: lol
16:32 LixRei: Since I didn't decided, I left it like that...
16:32 Gaia: well
16:32 Gaia: i think it looks better this way
16:32 Gaia: 00:56:044 (1,2,3) - same thing here
16:33 Gaia: alright so general things for hard
16:33 Gaia: flow patterns
16:33 Gaia: basically the same stuff i said in normal
16:33 Gaia: the thing with hard is
16:33 Gaia: pretty much the same as normal with the exception of some jumps
16:33 *Gaia is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/559853 Amamiya Sora - Tsuki Akari [Moonlight]]
16:33 Gaia: 00:04:286 (4,5,6) -
16:34 LixRei: Even then, jumps need to flow, right?
16:34 Gaia: yeah
16:34 Gaia: 00:04:286 (4,5,6) - 1/4 spacing but random jump
16:34 Gaia: you cant do this lol
16:34 Gaia: 00:13:187 (5,6,7,1) -
16:34 LixRei: lol, that was an accident. 00:04:286 (4) - was originally a slider
16:34 Gaia: spacing too
16:34 Gaia: oh
16:34 Gaia: lol
16:35 Gaia: 00:13:187 (5,6,7,1) - this is pretty much stacked
16:35 Gaia: when you have different rhythms in the same stack it's reaaally hard to read
16:35 Gaia: better off unstacking (5)
16:36 LixRei: Hm. I agree. That was kinda a bad idea.
16:36 Gaia: 00:17:142 (3,4,5) - you followed vocals here so you should map out the vocal on 00:17:638
16:36 Gaia: just to be consistent
16:36 Gaia: 00:24:396 (1) - feels out of place
16:37 Gaia: and flows weirdly with the last slider
16:37 LixRei: Ya, I got the thing about flow, but why out of place?
16:38 Gaia: it's not really doing anything really
16:38 Gaia: kinda just feels like it's slapped on there
16:38 Gaia: if it was like this
16:38 Gaia:
http://puu.sh/dH8eL/070a0ac0ad.jpg16:39 Gaia: it's blanketing 5
16:39 Gaia: cool
16:39 LixRei: Hm. I actually just went and stacked it under 00:23:078 (4) - like 00:22:419 (3,5) -
16:39 Gaia: something like this looks pretty cool too
http://puu.sh/dH8ie/07cc392911.jpg16:40 LixRei: But overlap there...
16:40 Gaia: yeah thats the point lol
16:40 LixRei: ?
16:40 Gaia: idk I like overlaps
16:40 Gaia: if u look at my maps i abuse overlaps so much
16:40 Gaia: tehe
16:41 Gaia: when u get to the kiai
16:41 Gaia: you stopped following vocals and stayed on up/downbeats
16:41 Gaia: since this is supposed to be insane you dont have to do that
16:41 Gaia: go ham on those 1/4 patterns lol
16:42 LixRei: Well, that might be the case, but I don't wanna go mapping out everything.. ;-;
16:42 LixRei: sometimes, HS just blow it.
16:42 Gaia: 00:53:407 (1) -
http://puu.sh/dH8uw/b6070b09c1.jpg16:42 Gaia: try it out and see if you like it
16:43 Gaia: play around with rhythms
16:45 Gaia: 01:26:703 (1,2) - lol
16:45 Gaia: 01:24:890 (1) - why not start on 01:25:055 - for the piano?
16:46 LixRei: 'Cause vocal.
16:47 Gaia: 01:03:956 (1,2,3,4,5) - don't get scared to jump cuz it's 1/4
16:47 Gaia: just cuz its a 1/4 doesnt mean u have to stream basically
16:47 Gaia: remember this is like 90bpm lol
16:47 LixRei: lol
16:48 Gaia: if you want to make this into an insane u gotta have 1/4 jumps
16:48 Gaia: and they won't be hard at all cuz it's just a 180bpm jump
16:48 LixRei: Hm. Gotcha.
16:48 LixRei: Well, I'll be careful to not overuse jumps.
16:48 Gaia: yeah thats important too
16:49 Gaia: but anyways
16:49 Gaia: thats about it
16:49 Gaia: take what i said in the beginning and apply it to everything
16:49 Gaia: flow spacing
16:49 Gaia: jumps
16:49 Gaia: etc
16:49 LixRei: Understood. I'll check it.
16:49 Gaia: cool
16:49 Gaia: i gtg now lol
16:49 Gaia: i gotta go eat
16:49 LixRei: Okay, see ya!
16:50 Gaia: cool
16:50 Gaia: peceeee
16:50 Gaia: wait i want kds >.>
16:50 Gaia: hue
16:50 LixRei: Just post the log at the forum... <.<
16:51 Gaia: lool ik i was jk
16:51 Gaia: tehe