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Hinsvar

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Hinsvar 2013-11-26T15:24:38+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, February 09, 2014 at 3:14:44 PM

Artist: BoA
Title: Winter Love
Tags: Kwon 권보아 Beat of Angel Made in Twenty (20) Xinely Setsurei
BPM: 72
Filesize: 9134kb
Play Time: 05:31
Difficulties Available:

Centuries (4.41 stars, 591 notes)
Everlasting (4.92 stars, 840 notes)
Xinely's Years (2.33 stars, 329 notes)

Download: BoA - Winter Love
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Anata ga suuuuuuki deeee~

Mapping for Christmas while going to fight against your usual end-term final exam is pretty damn fun.

Finally ~~pending~~ ~~bubbled~~ ranked!

Note:

Years = Normal (Xinely)
Centuries = Hard (Hinsvar)
Everlasting = Insane (Hinsvar)
The SB is made by Setsurei.

Oh, and that slider at the end of Everlasting is a pine tree

Last edited by Hinsvar 2014-02-09T10:23:15+00:00, edited 31 times in total.

10nya

2,746 posts

Joined February 2011

10nya 2013-11-30T05:10:02+00:00

1st!
AAA I WANT TO MAKE HARD BUT EXAMS FFFFFFFFFFFF

Hinsvar

osu! Alumni

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Topic Starter

Hinsvar 2013-11-30T05:27:31+00:00

>mfw there's a reply

10nya wrote:
1st!
AAA I WANT TO MAKE HARD BUT EXAMS FFFFFFFFFFFF

iktf

I guess I'm too calm facing this damned exam lol

Umi

2,478 posts

Joined November 2012

Umi 2013-11-30T13:53:54+00:00

little Irc

2013-11-30 13:42 Hinsvar: Umm, mind to do a testplay?
2013-11-30 13:42 -Umi-: sure '-'
2013-11-30 13:43 Hinsvar: ACTION is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/331138 BoA - Winter Love]
2013-11-30 13:43 Hinsvar: Just the Everlasting diff please '-'
2013-11-30 13:43 -Umi-: okay '-'
2013-11-30 13:44 -Umi-: ACTION is playing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/329565 BoA - Winter Love [Everlasting]]
2013-11-30 13:46 -Umi-: hum no
2013-11-30 13:46 Hinsvar: Even if the song is 72 BPM, this is not that easy... lol
2013-11-30 13:48 -Umi-: yeah lol x)
2013-11-30 13:48 -Umi-: but it's nice o3o
2013-11-30 13:49 Hinsvar: Good to hear that

2013-11-30 13:52 -Umi-: lol this last slider
2013-11-30 13:52 -Umi-: anyways sorry for bad play ;w;
2013-11-30 13:52 Hinsvar: Yeah.
2013-11-30 13:52 Hinsvar: Don't worry lol
2013-11-30 13:53 -Umi-: excepted some part where the flow is kinda bad imo the rest is really good :3
2013-11-30 13:53 Hinsvar: Thanks

~
2013-11-30 13:54 Hinsvar: Hmm, examples of the bad flow?
2013-11-30 13:54 -Umi-: let me find it x)
2013-11-30 13:54 Hinsvar: Okay

2013-11-30 13:55 -Umi-: 00:14:610 (2) - about this you should reverse no ?
2013-11-30 13:56 Hinsvar: ...I guess I'll just simplify it to a circle.
2013-11-30 13:56 Hinsvar: It's too hard to read lol
2013-11-30 13:56 -Umi-: yeah i was thinking this too xD
2013-11-30 13:56 -Umi-: i fail at this place
2013-11-30 13:57 -Umi-: 00:29:506 (3,1) - here
2013-11-30 13:57 -Umi-: i don't really the flow between these 2 notes
2013-11-30 13:57 Hinsvar: I guess that part's pretty hard, huh.
2013-11-30 13:57 Hinsvar: Hmm...
2013-11-30 13:57 -Umi-: a suggestion for this
2013-11-30 13:58 -Umi-: what about this ?
2013-11-30 13:58 -Umi-: http://puu.sh/5xG4x/476fec90f3.jpg
2013-11-30 13:58 -Umi-: more or less
2013-11-30 13:59 Hinsvar: Ah, sure.
2013-11-30 13:59 Hinsvar: Done.
2013-11-30 14:00 -Umi-: 01:03:881 (2,3) - about this one too
2013-11-30 14:00 -Umi-: another suggestion in coming x)
2013-11-30 14:01 Hinsvar: Okay

2013-11-30 14:02 -Umi-: http://puu.sh/5xGbA/174abcb0e1.jpg // http://puu.sh/5xGbK/daf775e60c.jpg
2013-11-30 14:04 Hinsvar: Used the first suggestion lol
2013-11-30 14:04 -Umi-: okay xD
2013-11-30 14:05 -Umi-: 01:20:547 (1,2) - here @.@ the flow i really really bad imo
2013-11-30 14:05 -Umi-: you should put it like this
2013-11-30 14:05 -Umi-: http://puu.sh/5xGiK/196bb3b2c1.jpg
2013-11-30 14:05 Hinsvar: ...Yep, now that I think about it, that one's really weird lol
2013-11-30 14:07 Hinsvar: Yup, changed too.
2013-11-30 14:07 -Umi-: 01:28:881 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2013-11-30 14:08 -Umi-: there is nothing wrong here
2013-11-30 14:08 -Umi-: but
2013-11-30 14:08 -Umi-: i really wasn't expected a stream when i wa playing xD
2013-11-30 14:08 -Umi-: was*
2013-11-30 14:08 Hinsvar: Well, blame the song for that

2013-11-30 14:08 -Umi-: yeah >3<
2013-11-30 14:09 -Umi-: 02:04:297 (4) - ctrl G ? :3
2013-11-30 14:13 Hinsvar: oh wait I forgot to reply lol
2013-11-30 14:13 Hinsvar: I guess I'll remap that part instead.
2013-11-30 14:13 -Umi-: kay lol
2013-11-30 14:15 -Umi-: 02:54:505 (2,3) - ctrl g too, i move easier toward the 3 instead of 2
2013-11-30 14:16 -Umi-: and that's all for me
2013-11-30 14:16 -Umi-: x)
2013-11-30 14:19 Hinsvar: Okay done.
2013-11-30 14:19 Hinsvar: Thanks

2013-11-30 14:19 -Umi-: np >.</

good luck Hinely :3/

BigWilly

214 posts

Joined October 2013

BigWilly 2013-12-01T18:37:07+00:00

Nice Map

Xinely's Years -

3:48 - I suggest halfing how the slider goes for and doubling the amount of reapeats (this sounds better to me)

3:49.7 Add another note here, if you change the Slider, this makes it sound better and gets rid of an awkward Pause!

Nice map Anyways

kajiyatta

1,421 posts

Joined April 2011

kajiyatta 2013-12-06T17:23:14+00:00

M4M
[General]
fine
[Xinely]
Placement
00:38:047(1) I suppose you can bet this slider like this? It would be nice flow for newbie.

SPOILER

01:44:714(3) CTRL+G would be better for playing.
02:48:464(3) Spacing looks not good, so move 1 or 2 grid away better.
02:56:380(5) Add NC for consistent pattern?
04:01:379(5)^
03:37:213(5) Nazi, change the direction of slider like this?

SPOILER

03:41:380(1,2,3) Again, flow suggestion here. You can make these notes with nice flow.

SPOILER

Rhythm
05:20:546(3,4,5) For the easiest diff, I suppose this 3 combo looks a bit difficult.
Hit Sound
01:46:485(1) Add whistle?
[Centuriesl]
Placement
01:46:380(1) Compared with previous placement, it looks a bit big jumping.So move these notes a little closer?
Rhythm
00:28:047(1,2,3) I suppose one slider would be better than 3 notes, since it is silinced on (2).

SPOILER

00:49:297(2) To follow the vocal, 1/4 slider would be more nice.
01:40:964 This blank looks not good since it sounds vocal clearly, so maybe put like this?

SPOILER

02:51:797 Again, I don't agree with this blank. You can add a note here to follow the instrumental.
03:30:546(5) For consistence, I just feel better if you put kick slider here same as (4).Also remove following note.
03:44:713(1) I don't suppose this slider is really fit to music. Put this as you did previously better. e.g)

SPOILER

04:56:171 Add a note better to follow the vocal.
Hit Sound
00:43:881(5) Add whistle.
01:14:714(1) Add whistle at head, not end.
04:04:713(1) Add finish at head.
[Everlasting]
Placement
00:08:881(1) This jump looks a bit large and suddenly, so you can move this closer better.
00:44:297(3) Change the direction same as (2) better, and the flow from (3) to (1) looks more nice.

SPOILER

01:25:964(7)nazi, move up this tail and the flow would be more nice.

SPOILER

01:34:922(2) To follow the rest of vocal, I suppose you can stack this note on the (1) better not (3).
02:08:464(2) Make such a rotationally flow like this?

SPOILER

02:30:964(2) Just move up a bit better for playing.
03:41:588(2,3) I suppose CTRL+G is better since current flow from (3) to (4) is not good.
Rhythm
00:15:131(1) I just sound odd since the beginning of spinner is not proper timing.I receommnd you start this slider at 00:14:818 better.
00:49:297(2) Change this note to 1/4 slider to follow the vocal.
02:51:172(4) This slider started at 1/4 line, and is not followed vocal properly so it looks a bit weird.I recommned you can remove this slider, and replace a note at 02:51:380 better.
04:02:4942(7) This triplet sounds odd, there is no sound here so remove this.
05:04:296 It's not better to make a blank since vocal has clearly heard.So add a note here.
Hit Sound
03:35:546(1) Prefer finish than other hit sounds to follow the music.
03:38:046-04:04:713 I suppose you can add soft-whistle on constant rhythm to follow the instrumental like
03:39:713(1) Add soft-whistle at head?
03:41:796(3)^
03:42:630(1) at head
03:44:713(1) at end ...

Good Luck.

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Xinely 2013-12-07T04:50:17+00:00

Did a Irc mod with Hinsvar
using Indonesian language for all

Centuries

09:54 Xinely: little check
09:54 Xinely: code osb ku kurang itu
09:54 Xinely: kok gk ada white flashnya
09:55 Hinsvar: ...Yang "w"?
09:56 Hinsvar: Kok aneh ya; perasaan udah ku-update pake itu =="
09:56 Hinsvar: Fixed anyway.
10:09 Xinely: 00:09:506 (3,4) - , 05:22:838 (2,3) - i mean the copy paste 
10:09 Xinely: bentuk beda tp placement sama rhythm mirip
10:10 Xinely: 05:23:879 (4) - NC? 
10:10 Xinely: anti jump o3o
10:12 Hinsvar: Yang 838 kuubah deh lol
10:12 Hinsvar: Done o3o
10:13 Xinely: let's mod yours
10:13 Xinely: Centuri bang
10:14 Hinsvar: Iya bang.
10:14 Hinsvar: Eh ``~
10:14 Hinsvar: Mbak ``~
10:14 Hinsvar:  /plak
10:15 Xinely: 00:00:547 (1) - imo sih depannya kalo gk ada whistle malah kerasa empty, apalagi depan itu suara crystal ><
10:16 Xinely: wait ini whistle mu based nya suara apa sih follownya?
10:17 Hinsvar: Masalahnya piano lebih kuat di 00:00:964 - ``~
10:17 Xinely: iya tambah kan gpp ``
10:17 Hinsvar: Pokoknya ikut suara yang lebih kuat.
10:17 Hinsvar: Oke ``
10:18 Xinely: 00:02:631 (3) - whistle di endas ``
10:18 Xinely: itu keras ah
10:18 Xinely: daripada ekor nya
10:20 Hinsvar: Oke kk ``
10:20 Xinely: 00:08:881 (2,3) - (2) ekor lbh keras suaranya imo daripada yang (3) kepala
10:21 Xinely: kyknya perlu whistle custom satu  lagi , yang satu buat piano keras, yang satu buat piano lbh elan ``
10:21 Hinsvar: Oke fixed gan ``
10:21 Hinsvar: lol repot
10:21 Xinely: abisgajesih
10:22 Xinely: 00:02:631 (3) - penasaran, ini slidernya turun gra2 suara pianonya jg menurun ya? ``
10:23 Xinely: 00:12:631 (2) - tailnya coba 464,320?
10:24 Hinsvar: Yes ``
10:24 Hinsvar: Flow-nya jadi gak enak, IMO...
10:24 Hinsvar: Tapi diturun-turunin dikit deh ``b
10:26 Xinely: 00:25:547 (2) - imo sih kalo d lengkungin dikit rada mirip kyk 00:26:381 (3) - bisa flownya mengenakkan diri (?)
10:27 Xinely: tetep aja aku gk suka biru tuanya, 3 sisanya muda, tiba2 tua
10:28 Xinely: brb 
10:28 Hinsvar: lol mengenakkan diri
10:28 Hinsvar: Done ``
10:28 Hinsvar: Gimana yah... bingung sama warnanya.
10:28 *Hinsvar ikut.
10:30 Xinely: entar aku maen warna, skrg mod dlu
10:30 Hinsvar: Oke owo
10:31 Xinely: 00:30:547 - harusnya suara2 kyk gni cocok lho buat finish yg q kasih kapan hari =3="
10:32 Xinely: 00:31:381 (1) - kurang suka sama bentuk nya, tailnya 400,228?
10:32 Xinely: eh salah i mean gni aja flownya http://puu.sh/5Ez92.jpg
10:33 Hinsvar: Susah, nanti harus mulai main green timing point segunung habis yang calm itu ``
10:33 Hinsvar: Err bentar.
10:33 Xinely: mau bagus apa gak `3`, cuma finish S:C1 beres
10:36 Xinely: 00:36:381 (3,4) - nazi, biasanya 1/2 pke 1,2 spacing, ini kok 1,0?
10:37 Hinsvar: Maulah, cuma... khawatir bakal ribet banget `3`
10:37 Hinsvar: Ups, done.
10:37 Hinsvar: Also 381 juga ``
10:38 Xinely: 00:39:506 (3) - 1 grid left biar 0,95x nya hilang. konsisten aja. kadang kan ada bat yang blg itu inconsistency
10:39 Xinely: 00:43:881 (5) - imo aneh kalo piano soundnya gk d whistle, td (6) emang keras, galau
10:40 Xinely: 00:44:506 - add note? enak suaranya. imo sih Hardnya jg less 1/4
10:41 Xinely: 00:50:339 - add note jg buat vocalnya?
10:42 Hinsvar: Done all.
10:42 Hinsvar: ``~
10:42 Xinely: 01:02:839 (3) - remove aja? imo sih, emang blue tick ada suaranya tp lbh enak ikut vocal disini soalnya musiknya pelan d blue tick itu, lagian vocalnya 1/8 
10:43 Xinely: 01:01:381 (1) - suara drumnya keras ah sampe aku sadar tnp remove note/ pke 25%. drum whistle?
10:45 Xinely: 01:04:297 (6) - ini style ku aja sih, feel free reject. 256,152 biar jadi triangle \:D/ (?)
10:50 Xinely: terakhir sampe mana modku?
10:51 Hinsvar: Drum 01:01:381 - lol
10:51 Xinely: 01:04:297 (6) - ini style ku aja sih, feel free reject. 256,152 biar jadi triangle \:D/ (?)
10:52 Xinely: 01:14:714 (1) - 90% kupingku salah cuma q coba drum enak2 aja
10:54 Xinely: 01:15:547 (2) - ada custom hitsound laser gk? cocok ini awkawkwka
10:57 Xinely: test sampe mana mod nya?
10:58 Hinsvar: Segitiga `w`
10:58 Xinely: 01:14:714 (1) - 90% kupingku salah cuma q coba drum enak2 aja
10:59 Hinsvar: ...IMO gak ada suara drum sih o.o
10:59 Hinsvar: Jadi terkesan maksa lawl
10:59 Xinely: karena itu 90% kupingku salah
11:00 Hinsvar: Iya deh kk owo
11:01 Xinely: 01:18:881 (4) - imo disini rhythmnya jadi monoton dan rada bosenin, ganti 1/4 circle 3x atau apa gtu pokoknya yg 1/4
11:02 Hinsvar: Done owo
11:04 Xinely: 01:24:297 (3,4) -  imo sih flownya rada gmn gtu. di 01:24:506 (4) - 264,268?
11:04 Hinsvar: Qe gan~
11:05 Xinely: 01:32:214 (6) - lengkungin dikit? flow :3
11:05 Hinsvar: Iya :3
11:05 Xinely: paling buat node ke 2 terus 396,367 :3
11:06 Hinsvar: Sekitaran situ deh :3
11:07 Xinely: 01:34:714 (4,5) - not sure, buat gni aja http://puu.sh/5EALw.jpg ? P.S : mulai dari 01:34:506 - 
11:09 Hinsvar: IMO aneh kalau skip instrumen...
11:09 Hinsvar: Mulai dari biru tapi habis di putih deh.
11:09 Xinely: 01:46:380 (1) - 424,80?
11:09 Xinely: hore jump lbh enak aja sih `3`
11:10 Hinsvar: Oke `3`
11:10 Hinsvar: Tapi disuruh kajiyatta kecilin sih... `3`
11:10 Xinely: hore 1 jam baru 1 kiai ``
11:10 Hinsvar: ``/
11:10 Xinely: suka2 dirimu
11:10 Hinsvar: Santai aja ``/
11:10 Xinely: 2 menit = 1 jam
11:11 Hinsvar: Oh well, ikut kamu deh `3`
11:11 Hinsvar: 8(
11:11 Xinely: total 10 menit yg d mod = 5 jam `3`
11:11 Xinely: OAO
11:11 Hinsvar: inb4 because IRC
11:11 Hinsvar: `3`
11:11 Hinsvar: OAO?
11:12 Xinely: 02:06:380 (1,2) - another 1/2 space with 1,0? :3
11:12 Xinely: restart kan hilang ini savelog
11:13 Xinely: 02:10:964 (3) - another nazi, tail 312,40
11:14 Hinsvar: Ups lol
11:14 Hinsvar: 8(
11:14 Hinsvar: Done kk
11:15 Xinely: remove whistlenya aja? imo gk keras2 amat sama entar jd tukang parkir
11:16 Hinsvar: Err, yang mana? o.o
11:16 Xinely: 02:29:505 - add note? perasaan td aku blg soal ini d depan, kalo emang km add, add lagi buat konsisten
11:16 Xinely: owait lupa timenya LOL
11:16 Xinely: owait, nvm yg itu, keras dikit sih jd imo emang perlu
11:17 Xinely: 02:32:839 - nice time for add note here imo
11:18 Xinely: mgkn taste ku sih 02:34:505 (3) - 240,300 for better flownya
11:19 Xinely: 02:45:130 (5) - vocalnya rada kuat d kepala, whistle?
11:20 Hinsvar: Fix all kecuali 02:45.
11:20 Xinely: 02:52:214 (6) - daritadi sih udh nemu byk soal gni tp ini yg imo lbh enak d fix, drum finish? D:
11:20 Hinsvar: Aku ngikut instrumen full di sini lol
11:21 Xinely: kalo mw tambah kuat bisa d tambah whistle drum nya
11:21 Xinely: 03:00:339 (2) - kepanjangan ini jump imo, 304,72 aja?
11:21 Hinsvar: Uh IMO, whistle sama clap udah cukup, kok o.o
11:22 Hinsvar: Tambah whistle deh.
11:22 Hinsvar: Nanti malah gak kebaca itu kalau ke sana lol
11:22 Xinely: d haruskan baca o3o
11:23 Xinely: 03:25:338 - add note? kokoro nya ;_;
11:24 Xinely: 03:27:005 - add note lagi, buat konsistensi sekitaran 01:41:381 (4,5,6,7) - 
11:24 Hinsvar: Gak gitu juga o3o
11:24 Hinsvar: Kokoro ;_; /plak
11:24 Hinsvar: Done.
11:25 Hinsvar: Done all kk
11:25 Xinely: taek tiwas lag hilang, 1 detik balik ngelag
11:25 Hinsvar: iktf kk
11:29 Xinely: 04:04:713 (1) - finish on head, consistency with everlasting diff :P
11:29 Hinsvar: ...Oh iya ``
11:29 Xinely: krn itu aku blg aku seringnya lht konsistensi `3`
11:30 Xinely: 1/8 circle d hard kira2 susah gk ya `3`, cuma 1/4 kan
11:30 Xinely: 04:23:775 - enak sih kalo ada add note d sini
11:31 Hinsvar: ...Kutambahin dulu deh `3`
11:31 Hinsvar: Toh cuma sama kayak 1/4 di 144 BPM `3`
11:31 Xinely: 04:27:005 - add note d sini sama whistle
11:31 Xinely: gitarnya beb ;_;
11:31 Hinsvar: Done kk
11:32 Hinsvar: Iya beb ;_;
11:33 Xinely: 04:59:296 - imo vocal i nya d sini gk enak kalo di skip ;-;
11:34 Hinsvar: Ugu added note ;-;
11:34 Xinely: 05:23:046 (1,2,3,4,1) - moar kreatif pls
11:34 Xinely: bisa bikin bunga yang dari 5 circle itu buat jump
11:35 Xinely: moar moe moar nice moar chybi (baca: beautiful)
11:35 Xinely: *chibi -3-
11:35 Xinely: done jg @@
11:36 Hinsvar: Aku buat bintang deh lol
11:36 Hinsvar: 8(

Everlasting

20:56 Xinely: oke let's go
20:56 Hinsvar: Iya kk
20:57 Xinely: oh iya hitsound yang tadi km fix itu apply d diff ini jg ya *udah lupa yg mana aja*, ada post log jd cek aja darisitu
20:58 *Hinsvar juga udah lupa di mana aja /slapped.
20:58 Hinsvar: Tapi hitsounding di Insane ini juga dikit beda sama Centuries sih.
20:58 Hinsvar: Soalnya banyak nge-map 1/4 ``~
20:58 Hinsvar: Lihat nanti deh.
20:58 Xinely: oh, brb
20:59 Hinsvar: wut
21:01 Xinely: soal overmap gk q cek deh, males krn lama, sek 
21:01 Hinsvar: lel ``
21:01 Hinsvar: Oke kk
21:01 Xinely: 00:08:881 (1) - daripada d stack, coba ke 356:160?
21:02 Xinely: biar mbentuk aja http://puu.sh/5EVoq.jpg
21:02 Hinsvar: Err, itu anti-jump btw.
21:02 Xinely: kalo iya (2) nya d pindah biar jadi triangle
21:02 Hinsvar: Eh.
21:02 Hinsvar: Itu (2) =="
21:02 Hinsvar: Wait.
21:02 Hinsvar: ...
21:02 Hinsvar: nvm
21:02 Hinsvar: Hmm.
21:03 Xinely: anti jump 3,26. Naisu
21:03 Hinsvar: Coba dulu deh.
21:03 Hinsvar: Salah lihat 00:06:797 (1) - ``
21:04 Hinsvar: Done.
21:04 Hinsvar: Tapi (2) gak perlu dipindah sih IMO lol
21:05 Xinely: kalo mw kok =3=
21:06 Hinsvar: Itu "kalo iya" -w-
21:06 Hinsvar: Meong owo~
21:07 Xinely: lupa blg 00:23:881 - suara nya tuing keras , clap cocok gk ya? =3=
21:08 Xinely: 00:30:547 (2) - samain bentuk sama kyk 00:29:714 (1) - biar better shape skalian flow enakan dikit
21:08 Hinsvar: ...idk sih; rasanya enakan whistle doang ``
21:08 Hinsvar: Iya lol
21:10 Xinely: 00:47:214 (3) - imo flownya terlalu bengkok, 2nd : 420,136 . last 384,140?
21:12 Hinsvar: Done owo
21:12 Xinely: 00:51:173 (4) - sengaja, bentuknya jelek. gk kyk persegi lol
21:13 Hinsvar: Siapa bilang mau buat persegi w
21:13 Xinely: *sengaja?
21:13 Hinsvar:  /runs
21:13 Xinely: bagusan kalo d bentuk bunga pke polygon ><
21:13 Hinsvar: Pattern itu emang sengaja gitu kok.
21:13 Hinsvar: Asik aja sih flow-nya.
21:13 Xinely: <-- suka shape
21:13 Hinsvar: Aku juga, tapi kalau ada shape tertentu terus gak asiq 8)
21:14 Hinsvar: inb4 padahal segitiga sama persegi di mana-mana
21:14 Xinely: 00:58:047 (1) - imo d samain lengkung kyk 00:57:214 (3) - , biar flow nya enak aja 
21:14 Xinely: lagian lht tiba2 lengkung naik kebangetan itu seems odd
21:15 Hinsvar: Meong owo
21:15 Hinsvar: Done.
21:17 Xinely: wait, ada masalah dikit
21:19 Hinsvar: Err? lol
21:19 Xinely: mama bacot =3=, ok done . lanjut
21:20 Xinely: 01:21:381 (1) - any reason why NC here?
21:20 Xinely: 01:20:547 (1,1) - ini maksud saya `3`
21:21 Hinsvar: Itu kan karena pattern-nya berubah lol
21:21 Hinsvar: Udah lain dari yang sebelumnya, gitu.
21:21 Hinsvar: =w= *elus*
21:21 Xinely: =3=
21:22 Xinely: tp gk ada jump or anything =3=
21:22 Hinsvar: Err, itu (1,2)?
21:22 Xinely: 01:25:964 (8) - lengkungin \:D/
21:22 Hinsvar: Lalu kan di (1) yang kedua pattern-nya lain lagi lol
21:22 Xinely: iya yg 01:21:381 (1) - imo d remove aja ><
21:22 Hinsvar: \:D/---
21:22 Xinely: kebaca tp `3`
21:22 Hinsvar: Kok sama kayak kajiyatta lol
21:23 Hinsvar: Oke, removed `3`
21:23 Hinsvar: Hmm, gimana yah.
21:23 Hinsvar: Done deh w
21:23 Hinsvar: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2726962
21:24 Hinsvar: Seems masih belum tahu Setsu di Australia 8)
21:24 Xinely: 01:44:505 (5) - ini d buat little jump dari (4) ke (5) nya?
21:24 Xinely: imo gk enak aja kalo lht spacing bladar (?) gtu `3`
21:26 Hinsvar: Oke `3`
21:26 Hinsvar: Bladar apa ya kk
21:26 Xinely: dari 1 lgsg ke 2
21:26 Hinsvar: lol ok
21:26 Xinely: lbh suka lht jump konsisten sih aku kyk d pindah ke 224,216
21:29 Hinsvar: ``~
21:29 Hinsvar: Aku merasa gak pas aja sih kalau konsisten di situ.
21:30 Xinely: 02:10:547 (3) - ini jg, d lengkung bawah dikit
21:32 Xinely: 02:30:964 (2) - 136,104? somehow lbh enak aja d mainin
21:33 Hinsvar: Oke, oke ``
21:34 Xinely: 02:48:047 (1) - flip buat flow http://puu.sh/5EWFS.jpg
21:35 Hinsvar: ...Gak deh, flow-nya malah jadi gak enak lol
21:36 Xinely: D:
21:36 Hinsvar: Itu lengkungannya udah diatur sedemikian rupa kok.
21:36 Hinsvar: D:
21:36 Xinely: 02:51:380 (4) - gk d NC buat pattern bareu?
21:36 Xinely: *baru
21:37 Xinely: 03:07:838 (3) - gw lbh prefer 100,260 sih
21:38 Hinsvar: Err, gak perlu ah, IMO; polanya tetep ngikut objek-objek sebelumnya kok.
21:38 Hinsvar: 60,252 deh lol
21:40 Xinely: 03:46:796 (2) - remove aja whistle bodynya imo
21:41 Xinely: 03:53:671 (4) - imo dari flow miring yang tajem, tiba2 jadi miring yg gni, kurang pas ;-'
21:41 Xinely: 140,264?
21:42 Hinsvar: Ups whistle body removed.
21:42 Hinsvar: Err, kalau 140,264... kesannya malah jadi terlalu kaku D:
21:43 Xinely: suka2 km deh pindah mana =3=
21:43 Xinely: 04:17:213 (1,2) - swap NC? lbh terlihat warning jumpnya imo
21:44 Xinely: 04:27:213 (3) - unsnapped tailnya?
21:44 Xinely: owait 1/6?
21:45 Hinsvar: Biarin aja deh -w-~
21:45 Hinsvar: Swapped.
21:45 Hinsvar: Yup, 1/6.
21:45 Xinely: 04:19:504 (3) - somehow seems like spacing issue
21:45 Xinely: 04:18:879 (1,2) - d swap jg?
21:48 Xinely: 04:29:817 (2) - dari 1,13x ke 1,23 terus ke 1,15x . ini spacing yg bener yang mana x_x , fixed for consistency pls
21:48 Xinely: 04:31:171 (5) - another nazi but spacing 1,54 nya inconsistency
21:50 Xinely: 05:12:629 (2) - not really sure but NC buat anti jump?
21:51 Hinsvar: Done sampai 171.
21:51 Hinsvar: Yang 629... Gak perlu sih ah; baru objek kedua juga.
21:51 Xinely: awas sampe kejebak ya
21:52 Hinsvar: Takut `w` /plak
21:52 Xinely: sekian, modding pada tahun 2013 bulan 12 hari 07 , atas nama bangsa Indonesia . Moenely ~

For Combo Colours, use this

[Colours]
Combo1 : 112,174,252
Combo2 : 121,121,240
Combo3 : 0,128,255
Combo4 : 0,255,255

too good, Good Luck sayang buang star, kapan2 ya

Last edited by Xinely 2013-12-10T08:39:01+00:00, edited 4 times in total.

Hinsvar

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Topic Starter

Hinsvar 2013-12-07T10:46:07+00:00

kajiyatta wrote:
[Centuriesl]
Placement
01:46:380(1) Compared with previous placement, it looks a bit big jumping.So move these notes a little closer? It's supposed to emphasize the cymbal, but... moved a bit I guess.
Rhythm
00:28:047(1,2,3) I suppose one slider would be better than 3 notes, since it is silinced on (2). Done.
SPOILER
00:49:297(2) To follow the vocal, 1/4 slider would be more nice. There isn't any kind of syllables or such at 00:49:922, so why should I?
01:40:964 This blank looks not good since it sounds vocal clearly, so maybe put like this? Yeah, sure.
SPOILER
02:51:797 Again, I don't agree with this blank. You can add a note here to follow the instrumental. I'd like to emphasize the piano here. I want to create a variety in rhythm.
03:30:546(5) For consistence, I just feel better if you put kick slider here same as (4).Also remove following note. Also to create a variety in rhythm, so uh.
03:44:713(1) I don't suppose this slider is really fit to music. Put this as you did previously better. e.g) Played a bit with this.
SPOILER
04:56:171 Add a note better to follow the vocal.
Hit Sound
00:43:881(5) Add whistle. Yep.
01:14:714(1) Add whistle at head, not end. But the instrument is stronger at the end...
04:04:713(1) Add finish at head. Yeah, done.
[Everlasting]
Placement
00:08:881(1) This jump looks a bit large and suddenly, so you can move this closer better. Okay.
00:44:297(3) Change the direction same as (2) better, and the flow from (3) to (1) looks more nice. Uh, I think the flow is actually better with my pattern o.o
SPOILER
01:25:964(7)nazi, move up this tail and the flow would be more nice. Hmm, I don't know why, but it doesn't seem to be fitting with the song, somehow...
SPOILER
01:34:922(2) To follow the rest of vocal, I suppose you can stack this note on the (1) better not (3). Uh, stacked on (3)'s head anyway. Feels better that way.
02:08:464(2) Make such a rotationally flow like this? ...I don't know why, but I just don't like the flow.
SPOILER
02:30:964(2) Just move up a bit better for playing. Uh, how can moving it up makes the play better...?
03:41:588(2,3) I suppose CTRL+G is better since current flow from (3) to (4) is not good. Ah, okay.
Rhythm
00:15:131(1) I just sound odd since the beginning of spinner is not proper timing.I receommnd you start this slider at 00:14:818 better. Started at 00:14:922 instead; I want to give some time for the players to prepare.
00:49:297(2) Change this note to 1/4 slider to follow the vocal. Not necessary, IMO. The vocal on that blue tick is still a little too subtle.
02:51:172(4) This slider started at 1/4 line, and is not followed vocal properly so it looks a bit weird.I recommned you can remove this slider, and replace a note at 02:51:380 better. Done.
04:02:4942(7) This triplet sounds odd, there is no sound here so remove this. ^
05:04:296 It's not better to make a blank since vocal has clearly heard.So add a note here. The problem is... it's too subtle.
Hit Sound
03:35:546(1) Prefer finish than other hit sounds to follow the music. Okay.
03:38:046-04:04:713 I suppose you can add soft-whistle on constant rhythm to follow the instrumental like
03:39:713(1) Add soft-whistle at head? It doesn't go well with the drum there, IMO...
03:41:796(3)^ Added.
03:42:630(1) at head There is one already...
03:44:713(1) at end ... Added.

Good Luck.

Thanks for the mod!

Also to Xinely too~ owo~

@Feverie: I did things differently, but I got some inspirations from your words, so take that kudosu with you, and thanks

Sonnyc

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Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2013-12-09T16:15:10+00:00

Year -> Decade -> Century
for better difficulty identifying? ww

Good luck on this :3

Unusual-bot

Unusual-bot 2013-12-10T11:08:06+00:00

I don't know what to say, this map is awesome. Been a while since i found a good relaxing map (last one is Ai Kotoba)
Maybe because i'm new to modding (second mod

) so i can't find any problem with this map. So i'll shoot a star

Hinsvar

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Topic Starter

Hinsvar 2013-12-10T11:44:47+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
Year -> Decade -> Century
for better difficulty identifying? ww

Good luck on this :3

Well, I think "Years > Centuries > Everlasting" is just as easily recognizable, so it should be fine.

~~And I want to make a shout out to BoA's song D: /runs~~

K4zuya K wrote:
I don't know what to say, this map is awesome. Been a while since i found a good relaxing map (last one is Ai Kotoba)
Maybe because i'm new to modding (second mod ) so i can't find any problem with this map. So i'll shoot a star

Yo, thanks for the compliment and the star! Glad you liked it

ritsu-tanaika

468 posts

Joined September 2012

ritsu-tanaika 2013-12-10T11:59:11+00:00

Alright, lets do M4M

General

For the harder difficulties, I think you should make the default timing at 1/8 because its actually used quite frequently

Also, you think it'd be a good idea to change BPM to 144 and half the slider rate?

Xinely's Years

00:02:631 (2) - Would be better if you Ctrl+J 00:01:381 (1) - and then move to appropriate distance

00:53:881 (4) - Try whistle + finish instead of whistle + clap

01:07:006 (4,5) - Suggest removing 4 because for the easiest difficulty, using 1/4 is not really appropriate in my opinion

01:11:381 (1) - Stack the head of this on top of 01:09:297 (2) -

01:15:547 (1,2) - Previously stated before, I dont think its a good idea to use 1/4 in this difficulty, change to single slider from 01:15:547 to 01:15:964

SPOILER

01:35:547 (4) - Remove whistle perhaps? the other white ticks dont have a whistle as well as the clap

02:29:297 (4) - Change to single circle at 02:29:297 to avoid the 1/4?

02:56:380 (1) - Consider using Ctril + J? This slider currently overlaps with 02:54:714 (3) - a little bit so I think it'll be better if you use Ctrl + J to change slider to a different path to make it easier to follow

02:57:630 (2) - If you follow above move to X:324 Y:320

04:14:713 (1) - Ctrl + H maybe? Not sure if the overlap with 04:13:879 (3) - is appropriate

05:04:713 (1) - Suggest rotating heart 14 degrees clockwise, makes it completely vertical

Centuries

00:13:881 (1) - Add a clap on the end of the slider to put more emphasis

00:46:677 - NC this note, if not then the stacked pattern would be a bit confusing because they are the same color

00:51:381 (1) - Add a whistle at 00:51:381 (head of slider)

01:07:214 (1) - Remove NC, and change the NC to instead. Its because of the sudden jump, then putting the NC at the wrong places can be quite confusing

01:19:506 (5) - Suggest adding a note here to keep the flow of the chorus instead of leaving a blank space

01:27:006 (3) - Stack on top of 01:27:214 (4) - to avoid the overlap

02:51:797 (5) - Would suggest adding a note here to complete the stream

03:01:380 (1) - I think the jump from 03:01:172 (4) - to this note is a bit too much, try to stack the 03:01:172 (4) - on top of the slider and see if it works out

03:37:213 (1,2,3,4) - The flow of these notes dont really work out that well. try stacking (2 on top of 1) and (3 on top of 4)

04:17:213 (1,2,3,4) - ^

05:17:213 (1,2,1,2) - ^

Everlasting

No problems, really well mapped!

Hope I helped

MeraMiPoP_old

155 posts

Joined October 2013

MeraMiPoP_old 2013-12-10T12:20:40+00:00

~~usually, centuries is longer than everlasting, sometimes even years is longer than that~~

Xinely's Years:
it's good, is it better to change one of the hearts to the tree ww

Centuries:
i think od should -1, since the AR and BPM is low, then with DT on OD 6->8.4, it's pretty hard
02:59:714 (1,2) - I think the speed and rhythm is pretty weird here, deleting (2) should be fine..
04:23:775 (3) - please don't use 1/8 here
05:17:213 (1,2,1,2) - I think better nott put a jump near the end of the song, since the music is softer here
Some 4 note + a jump to slider is a little hard, but that's not much of a problem

Everlasting:
00:02:422 (1) - circle instead of slider here? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1161229
00:08:881 (1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1161233 I suggest this placement, since it's too far to the right
00:09:297 (2) - add whistle?
00:14:610 (2) - 1/4 slider and repeat here..? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1161238
00:30:547 (2) - I think it could be the bell hitsound here (heard it on many other maps, but i don't remember which..)
00:33:047 (3) - make the shape softer http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1161252
02:30:964 (2) - separate this slider from the last for a little distance http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1161263
02:31:380 (1,2) - I think it's a better rhythm to remove (3) and put (2) at the (3)'s position (on slider head)
03:20:546 (2,1) - is it possible to make these look more symmetrical?
04:19:088 (1,2) - the distance is not the same here, if not on purpose, i suggest stack it
05:24:713 (1) - good job wwww

Lanturn

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3,912 posts

Joined March 2012

Lanturn 2013-12-10T15:53:21+00:00

Heya Hinsvar. BoA <3

Been a couple years since I've heard this song last. Along with Candle Lights.

[General]
Tags:
You can remove "Boa" from the tags as it's in the Artist name already.
Maybe add 권보아 since you have her romanised name in the tags.

SPOILER

AIBat v3.1 wrote:
Combo Colours
Inconsistency in combo colours: Any reason why you have them all so different?

- [Centuries] :
Combo1 : 112,174,252
Combo2 : 121,121,240
Combo3 : 0,128,255
Combo4 : 0,255,255
- [Everlasting] :
Combo1 : 112,174,252
Combo2 : 135,120,205
Combo3 : 0,255,255
Combo4 : 100,100,255
- [Xinely's Years] :
Combo1 : 112,174,252
Combo2 : 121,121,240
Combo3 : 0,128,255
Combo4 : 0,255,255

[Storyboard]
Is it possible to make SB/T (the snow) wider to support widescreen better?

Also what is SB/w used for? It's a white image for me so I really can't see much of it. My guess is some sort of flash effect that was never used.

[Xinely]

01:09:297 (2,3,4,1) - Move the (3) and (4) slider down a bit so you can stack the (2) and (1) together. This also removes a bit of clumpiness that caught my attention in the first place.
02:05:547 (4,1) - move the end point to x300 y252 for a better blanket
02:13:047 (1) - Control+G maybe? Reverse arrows really are better suited to be placed on the edges of the maps when given a choice. You'll have to adjust the next couple circles if you do this.
02:48:464 (3,4,1) - how about this pattern? | http://puu.sh/5IcEd.jpg | maybe even consider having the slider end go into the head of (1)?
03:00:547 (1,1) - Nudge the tail node over to x288 y248? | Better blanket, though it might need some work still
03:05:963 (2) - Try moving the middle node out a bit on this as well. It gets a bit close to the tail end of (1) in the middle
03:15:963 (2) - Not sure what the purpose of this 1/4 slider is. You haven't really been using 1/4 sliders except to follow the dominant vocal sounds, so using it on a held vocal note here is a bit strange to me.
03:41:380 (1,2) - it may end up being a bit boring, but I would suggest joining these two into one long slider so players don't mistake the strong vocals here. Much like what you have at 03:38:046 (1) -
04:03:046 (3) - how about adding a finish to the reverse since you have so much built up from all the previous finishes following the dominant vocals.
05:22:629 (2,1) - Join these two as one slider. 05:23:046 (1) - hits nothing, and sounds/plays awful. You have tick rate 2 anyways.

Very nice Diff. Mostly just nazi suggestions.

[Centuries]

You may want to skip this whole part entirely.. I rant a lot on this because I don't really like this diff due to how awkward the placings are to me.

Whole Beginning piano section | To be frank and honest. I'm not really fond of the extra notes aside from the piano playing here. There isn't anything playing in the background at all in most of the parts anyways so it seems really silly to map them. Just my opinion though.
This difficulty seems to be quite a bit harder than it should when comparing it to the rest of the mapset. Not because of the jumps, but actually because of some of the notes you have placed under other ones. What feels like 1/2 gaps, are actually 1/1s and so on, creating quite a bit of awkwardness, and unreadability unless you fully memorized the note gaps. I really feel like this difficulty should be toned down quite a bit. less jumps, and maybe not hiding so many notes would work amazing.
00:06:381 (2) - delete?
00:09:506 (3) - Delete this whole slider as well, you don't really follow the other instrument here in the other spots so it just seems strange to map this. or try something like you do at 00:12:631 (2) - which would fit much much better, and still map to the notes you want.
00:44:714 (1,2) - First example of a badly placed note over another. The main problem is that you map on 00:46:797 (2) - which hits absolutely nothing in the music, so it creates the impression the note will be 1/4 or 1/1, and not 1/2. The 1/4 impression comes from the notes at 00:44:297 (6,7) - and the 1/1 impression comes from the whistle spot at the tail end of 00:47:006 (3) - | If you plan on keeping this rhythm, then I would suggest not hiding the circle underneath, and stacked on the upcoming slider which adds more confusion by the way, and I personally think it's too hard for a hard diff having two different note gaps all occuring on the same space.
01:09:714 (3,1) - Even though its quite far apart, how about stacking these two notes in the same position?
01:28:881 (1) - um.. why? I really don't get the reason for these reverse 1/8 It hits nothing in the song, and more or less actually ruins the flow to what should be rather calm. Especially in this difficulty.
02:21:380 (3) - delete? I see no point to this note and just feels like its there for something to hit, which shouldn't even be considered in this diff, and especially for this song.

At this point I started playing through the song hoping to point out anything uncomfortable.
02:05:547 (7,1) - This is a really bad jump, A really awkward note to hit, or slider to end on. I would end the slider 1/2 earlier or move the (1) next to the tail end. I would suggest the former though
02:57:214 (2) - I always go for this 1/4 early. Its mainly because how you placed 02:56:172 (7,1) - it will always create the jump impression. This isn't good, and I would suggest trying something else here.
02:59:714 (1,2,1) - Delete the (2) if you plan on using a slow slider here with such a big jump. you don't really need to map the noise that starts at 03:00:339 - in my opinion. Just makes the whole playing awkward.
03:16:171 (4,1,2) - another jump that confuses me as well. If I manage to link (4,1) together, the (2) still feels like it should be 1/1 away. You must be some master of delusions or something because I really can't get the feeling of just hitting 1/2 notes here.
03:54:088 (2,3,4) - Not sure why you mapped to this as well. I really liked the 1/1 gap you had at 03:52:213 (2,3) - and was expecting another one after the (1)
04:19:296 (4,1) - A bit excessive of a jump to me. no build up for it
04:47:213 (1,2) - although I'm not a fan of the 1/8th reverses at all here, this would play much better with only 1 reverse instead of 3, and adding a circle 1/2 later (where the slider ends)

I really don't like this difficulty much at all. To me, when I play this. It seems like too much effort was used to try and make it harder than it actually should be. A few overmapped notes, as well as some undermapped confusion, and adding the overlapped notes does not help. It really feels like a chore to read in the long run, and really makes this not fun at all. To be honest, I think your Everlasting difficulty is easier than this.

[Everlasting]

00:13:047 (3) - Drum on the slider? Somehow noticed this while playing and thought it sounded odd. Not sure if this is intentional or not
00:58:047 (4) - was this meant to be a drum hit instead of a clap?
01:31:068 (5) - I'm not understanding this 1/8 triplet here.
02:13:047 (1) - soft addition whistle?
02:31:380 (1) - whistle?
03:26:588 (2) - I always get a 1/1 gap feeling from the previous note. Maybe this would play better removed?
04:19:088 (1,2) - wouldn't it be better to use one constant distance spacing for this spot? only having two or three notes doesn't really merit a distance snap change.. If not, you could also maybe delete the (2) so it plays the same as 04:30:546 (1,2,3) - maybe?
04:27:213 (3) - 1/12? I don't think a late guitar note should warrant for being the only 1/12 note in the whole song. maybe find some other way to map this? Its possible your offset is a tad ahead as well, making this guitar note more likely to hit at 04:27:525 instead.
05:00:338 (3,4) - why not follow the drums here? you made the effort to have the 1/2 gap and I don't even know if the note at 05:01:171 (5) - does anything special for the song so you could probably remove it?
05:02:004 (2) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1161759 | This hits the life bar (which is a recoloring of the original) | This one isn't as big as some other life bars too. also 03:39:296 (4) - hits it as well for me.
05:19:296 (2) - move the whistle from the reverse to the head?

This diff really nice

Well I'm not to fond of how I modded this. Sorry about the ranting on your Centuries difficulty, hopefully something from it can help though. Take a

at least for the song choice and the other two diffs.

Good luck, one of the really nice winter songs for christmas <3

Setsurei

1,149 posts

Joined May 2012

Setsurei 2013-12-10T20:06:10+00:00

Lanturn wrote:
[Storyboard]
Is it possible to make SB/T (the snow) wider to support widescreen better? oh right, he checked the "widescreen support", so I need to change 'em

Also what is SB/w used for? It's a white image for me so I really can't see much of it. My guess is some sort of flash effect that was never used. I'm sure I use the w.jpg on every kiai start (6 kiais), I think Hinsvar misplaced the w.jpg

Thanks for mod

Hinsvar: this is the .osb - and fixed some WS resolution by scaling them

SPOILER

[Events]
//Background and Video events
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
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 F,0,18881,23881,1
 F,0,23881,24714,1,0
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"SB\A2.png",320,240
 F,0,24714,25547,0,1
 M,0,24714,31381,390,150,290,150
 F,0,25547,30547,1
 F,0,30547,31381,1,0
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"SB\B1.png",320,240
 F,0,31381,32214,0,1
 M,0,31381,37214,190,200,290,200
 F,0,32214,36381,1
 F,0,36381,37214,1,0
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"SB\B2.png",320,240
 F,0,37214,38047,0,1
 M,0,37214,45547,390,250,290,250
 F,0,38047,43881,1
 F,0,43881,45547,1,0
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"SB\C1.png",320,240
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 M,0,46381,53047,190,300,290,300
 F,0,47214,52214,1
 S,0,47839,48047,1,1.05
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 S,0,48256,48672,1
 S,0,48672,48881,1,1.05
 S,0,48881,49089,1.05,1
 S,0,49089,50443,1
 S,0,50443,50547,1,1.05
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 S,0,50652,51068,1
 S,0,51068,51172,1,1.05
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 S,0,51589,52110,1
 S,0,52110,52214,1,1.05
 S,0,52214,52318,1.05,1
 F,0,52214,53047,1,0
Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"SB\C2.png",320,240
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 S,0,53777,53881,1,1.05
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 F,0,53881,58881,1
 S,0,53985,54506,1
 S,0,54506,54714,1,1.05
 S,0,54714,54818,1.05,1
 S,0,54818,55443,1
 S,0,55443,55547,1,1.05
 S,0,55547,55652,1.05,1
 S,0,55652,57110,1
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//Storyboard Sound Samples

Hinsvar

osu! Alumni

3,789 posts

Joined December 2011

Topic Starter

Hinsvar 2013-12-11T02:57:47+00:00

ritsu-tanaika wrote:
Alright, lets do M4M

General

For the harder difficulties, I think you should make the default timing at 1/8 because its actually used quite frequently It isn't that necessary because it can be easily changed, but done anyway.

Also, you think it'd be a good idea to change BPM to 144 and half the slider rate? Nope. The song's BPM is 72, and I want to stay true to that.

Centuries

00:13:881 (1) - Add a clap on the end of the slider to put more emphasis ...It doesn't seem to fit with the song, so uh.

00:46:677 - NC this note, if not then the stacked pattern would be a bit confusing because they are the same color Unstacked, instead.

00:51:381 (1) - Add a whistle at 00:51:381 (head of slider) Uh no. I intentionally made the hitsound like this to follow the song better.

01:07:214 (1) - Remove NC, and change the NC to instead. Its because of the sudden jump, then putting the NC at the wrong places can be quite confusing Change to what? Also, the NC is here to denote the jump, and the jump is there to follow how the song goes, basically.

01:19:506 (5) - Suggest adding a note here to keep the flow of the chorus instead of leaving a blank space Okay.

01:27:006 (3) - Stack on top of 01:27:214 (4) - to avoid the overlap The overlap is intentional, and I think the flow is better this way.

02:51:797 (5) - Would suggest adding a note here to complete the stream Well I knew I shouldn't have tried to make a variety of rhythm here. Added.

03:01:380 (1) - I think the jump from 03:01:172 (4) - to this note is a bit too much, try to stack the 03:01:172 (4) - on top of the slider and see if it works out Solved by myself.

03:37:213 (1,2,3,4) - The flow of these notes dont really work out that well. try stacking (2 on top of 1) and (3 on top of 4) ....Really? I think they work very well with how the instruments are played in the song.

04:17:213 (1,2,3,4) - ^ ^

05:17:213 (1,2,1,2) - ^ ^

Everlasting

No problems, really well mapped! Good to hear that!

Hope I helped

Meramipop wrote:
~~usually, centuries is longer than everlasting, sometimes even years is longer than that~~ But "infinite" is bigger than any other amount of number, right... lol

Centuries:
i think od should -1, since the AR and BPM is low, then with DT on OD 6->8.4, it's pretty hard As you wish.
02:59:714 (1,2) - I think the speed and rhythm is pretty weird here, deleting (2) should be fine.. Nope, it won't. There is a loud drum sound; how can I leave that?
04:23:775 (3) - please don't use 1/8 here Why? 1/8 @ 72 BPM isn't that hard. But I guess I'll unstack them so they'll be more readable... Hopefully.
05:17:213 (1,2,1,2) - I think better nott put a jump near the end of the song, since the music is softer here Uh, no? The music gets a little more intense again there, thus the jumps.
Some 4 note + a jump to slider is a little hard, but that's not much of a problem Okay...

Everlasting:
00:02:422 (1) - circle instead of slider here? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1161229 A slider reflects the music much more accurately, IMO.
00:08:881 (1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1161233 I suggest this placement, since it's too far to the right Let me play with this a bit more.
00:09:297 (2) - add whistle? I want to emphasize the instrument at 00:09:506 with a whistle, so uh, no.
00:14:610 (2) - 1/4 slider and repeat here..? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1161238 ...Not too sure about this. Again, let me tweak this by myself.
00:30:547 (2) - I think it could be the bell hitsound here (heard it on many other maps, but i don't remember which..) The hitsounding will be very, VERY complicated and might end up making the map's hitsound patterns worse because then there will be a lot of stuff that I need to change, and it will most likely end up as a mess. I don't want to risk doing that.
00:33:047 (3) - make the shape softer http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1161252 Okay.
02:30:964 (2) - separate this slider from the last for a little distance http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1161263 Hmm, I want to preserve the distance here so it won't be confusing to read, but I'll consider.
02:31:380 (1,2) - I think it's a better rhythm to remove (3) and put (2) at the (3)'s position (on slider head) Why? That way, the rhythm will be far more awkward, you know.
03:20:546 (2,1) - is it possible to make these look more symmetrical? Well, they are already symmetrical...
04:19:088 (1,2) - the distance is not the same here, if not on purpose, i suggest stack it It's intentional.
05:24:713 (1) - good job wwww lol

Lanturn wrote:
Heya Hinsvar. BoA <3

Been a couple years since I've heard this song last. Along with Candle Lights.

[General]
Tags:
You can remove "Boa" from the tags as it's in the Artist name already.
Maybe add 권보아 since you have her romanised name in the tags. Did these two.

SPOILER
AIBat v3.1 wrote:
Combo Colours
Inconsistency in combo colours: Any reason why you have them all so different? Shit, I forgot to copy the colors from Centuries and Years to Everlasting. Fixed.

- [Centuries] :
Combo1 : 112,174,252
Combo2 : 121,121,240
Combo3 : 0,128,255
Combo4 : 0,255,255
- [Everlasting] :
Combo1 : 112,174,252
Combo2 : 135,120,205
Combo3 : 0,255,255
Combo4 : 100,100,255
- [Xinely's Years] :
Combo1 : 112,174,252
Combo2 : 121,121,240
Combo3 : 0,128,255
Combo4 : 0,255,255

[Storyboard]
Is it possible to make SB/T (the snow) wider to support widescreen better?

Also what is SB/w used for? It's a white image for me so I really can't see much of it. My guess is some sort of flash effect that was never used. Fixed by Setsurei.
[Centuries]

You may want to skip this whole part entirely.. I rant a lot on this because I don't really like this diff due to how awkward the placings are to me. That sounds like an invitation to read this section instead of telling me to get off from here lol

Whole Beginning piano section | To be frank and honest. I'm not really fond of the extra notes aside from the piano playing here. There isn't anything playing in the background at all in most of the parts anyways so it seems really silly to map them. Just my opinion though. Uh, for this... Well, avoiding to map the instruments, aside from the piano here, will create some sense of awkward emptiness, don't you think?
This difficulty seems to be quite a bit harder than it should when comparing it to the rest of the mapset. Not because of the jumps, but actually because of some of the notes you have placed under other ones. What feels like 1/2 gaps, are actually 1/1s and so on, creating quite a bit of awkwardness, and unreadability unless you fully memorized the note gaps. I really feel like this difficulty should be toned down quite a bit. less jumps, and maybe not hiding so many notes would work amazing. ...I knew this would happen. Let me try to fix this.
00:06:381 (2) - delete? Done.
00:09:506 (3) - Delete this whole slider as well, you don't really follow the other instrument here in the other spots so it just seems strange to map this. or try something like you do at 00:12:631 (2) - which would fit much much better, and still map to the notes you want. Played around with this.
00:44:714 (1,2) - First example of a badly placed note over another. The main problem is that you map on 00:46:797 (2) - which hits absolutely nothing in the music, so it creates the impression the note will be 1/4 or 1/1, and not 1/2. The 1/4 impression comes from the notes at 00:44:297 (6,7) - and the 1/1 impression comes from the whistle spot at the tail end of 00:47:006 (3) - | If you plan on keeping this rhythm, then I would suggest not hiding the circle underneath, and stacked on the upcoming slider which adds more confusion by the way, and I personally think it's too hard for a hard diff having two different note gaps all occuring on the same space. I'll remap this part, then.
01:09:714 (3,1) - Even though its quite far apart, how about stacking these two notes in the same position? Nope; this one's completely unnecessary since (3) has already disappeared before (1) even appears.
01:28:881 (1) - um.. why? I really don't get the reason for these reverse 1/8 It hits nothing in the song, and more or less actually ruins the flow to what should be rather calm. Especially in this difficulty. Well, the "snapped-to-1/8" (?) instrument sounds doesn't really make the song any calmer, right? I think I need to get a little more intense here, so there you have it.
02:21:380 (3) - delete? I see no point to this note and just feels like its there for something to hit, which shouldn't even be considered in this diff, and especially for this song. The problem is... there are sounds from the instruments here. Oh, and leaving it empty will make this spot worse. I don't know if it will even help a bit, but let's try adding a whistle. It probably feels weird because of the inconsistent hitsounding... Probably.

At this point I started playing through the song hoping to point out anything uncomfortable.
02:05:547 (7,1) - This is a really bad jump, A really awkward note to hit, or slider to end on. I would end the slider 1/2 earlier or move the (1) next to the tail end. I would suggest the former though Okay, shortened the slider.
02:57:214 (2) - I always go for this 1/4 early. Its mainly because how you placed 02:56:172 (7,1) - it will always create the jump impression. This isn't good, and I would suggest trying something else here. I hope adding a circle at 02:56:172 will help.
02:59:714 (1,2,1) - Delete the (2) if you plan on using a slow slider here with such a big jump. you don't really need to map the noise that starts at 03:00:339 - in my opinion. Just makes the whole playing awkward. Uh no. That noise definitely needs to be mapped because of how loud it is. Otherwise, players will be tricked to hit (1) 1/4 beats early. I'm also kinda bugged by this, to be honest, so any concrete solutions?
03:16:171 (4,1,2) - another jump that confuses me as well. If I manage to link (4,1) together, the (2) still feels like it should be 1/1 away. You must be some master of delusions or something because I really can't get the feeling of just hitting 1/2 notes here. "master of delusions" made me laugh for a minute lol. Anyway, this pattern didn't confuse me at all. It just follows how the instruments flow, and it works well for that. If there is a better pattern for this, though, tell me.
03:54:088 (2,3,4) - Not sure why you mapped to this as well. I really liked the 1/1 gap you had at 03:52:213 (2,3) - and was expecting another one after the (1) So I take it you want the rhythm to be like 03:52:213 (2,3)? Sure, I like that too. Done.
04:19:296 (4,1) - A bit excessive of a jump to me. no build up for it Played with the rhythm here.
04:47:213 (1,2) - although I'm not a fan of the 1/8th reverses at all here, this would play much better with only 1 reverse instead of 3, and adding a circle 1/2 later (where the slider ends) Umm, I'm just following the instruments, and I don't really want to simplify the rhythm here because it'll feel awkward. Played a bit with the positions here to make this section more comfortable to play, though.
I really don't like this difficulty much at all. To me, when I play this. It seems like too much effort was used to try and make it harder than it actually should be. A few overmapped notes, as well as some undermapped confusion, and adding the overlapped notes does not help. It really feels like a chore to read in the long run, and really makes this not fun at all. To be honest, I think your Everlasting difficulty is easier than this. Well yeah. I should've realized that rushing to map a Hard diff in 4 days while being sick is not the right to do. Not that someone will be interested in making a GD here quickly, anyway, so I had to do it. Thanks for the words.

[Everlasting]
00:13:047 (3) - Drum on the slider? Somehow noticed this while playing and thought it sounded odd. Not sure if this is intentional or not Oops, fixed.
00:58:047 (4) - was this meant to be a drum hit instead of a clap? ^
01:31:068 (5) - I'm not understanding this 1/8 triplet here. ...I'm not even sure why was this here in the first place. Changed.
02:13:047 (1) - soft addition whistle? Added.
02:31:380 (1) - whistle? ^
03:26:588 (2) - I always get a 1/1 gap feeling from the previous note. Maybe this would play better removed? Not quite sure about this since I can read the pattern easily. Will see what the other modders say.
04:19:088 (1,2) - wouldn't it be better to use one constant distance spacing for this spot? only having two or three notes doesn't really merit a distance snap change.. If not, you could also maybe delete the (2) so it plays the same as 04:30:546 (1,2,3) - maybe? Made the spacing consistent.
04:27:213 (3) - 1/12? I don't think a late guitar note should warrant for being the only 1/12 note in the whole song. maybe find some other way to map this? Its possible your offset is a tad ahead as well, making this guitar note more likely to hit at 04:27:525 instead. It's in 1/6, actually. And no, this is correct. I won't play with a random beat snap divisor if I don't need it.
05:00:338 (3,4) - why not follow the drums here? you made the effort to have the 1/2 gap and I don't even know if the note at 05:01:171 (5) - does anything special for the song so you could probably remove it? Removed.
05:02:004 (2) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1161759 | This hits the life bar (which is a recoloring of the original) | This one isn't as big as some other life bars too. also 03:39:296 (4) - hits it as well for me. Moved them a bit.
05:19:296 (2) - move the whistle from the reverse to the head? Done.
This diff really nice (:

Well I'm not to fond of how I modded this. Sorry about the ranting on your Centuries difficulty, hopefully something from it can help though. Take a at least for the song choice and the other two diffs.

Good luck, one of the really nice winter songs for christmas <3

~~Still in progress of fixing everything...~~

Finally!

Thanks for the mods, guys!

*And the star, too, for Lanturn lol

Xinely

5,014 posts

Joined April 2012

Xinely 2013-12-11T09:19:47+00:00

ritsu-tanaika wrote:
Alright, lets do M4M

Xinely's Years

00:02:631 (2) - Would be better if you Ctrl+J 00:01:381 (1) - and then move to appropriate distance nope, flow will become bad for me

00:53:881 (4) - Try whistle + finish instead of whistle + clap finish is too loud here since there aren't any cymbal

01:07:006 (4,5) - Suggest removing 4 because for the easiest difficulty, using 1/4 is not really appropriate in my opinion 1/4 72 BPM = 1/2 144 BPM, not really hard. also this is Normal diff, altho it's easiest diff, this diff is Normal after all

01:11:381 (1) - Stack the head of this on top of 01:09:297 (2) - well, okay

01:15:547 (1,2) - Previously stated before, I dont think its a good idea to use 1/4 in this difficulty, change to single slider from 01:15:547 to 01:15:964 same as i mean in 01:07:006 (4,5) -

SPOILER

01:35:547 (4) - Remove whistle perhaps? the other white ticks dont have a whistle as well as the clap okay

02:29:297 (4) - Change to single circle at 02:29:297 to avoid the 1/4? no, same as previous

02:56:380 (1) - Consider using Ctril + J? This slider currently overlaps with 02:54:714 (3) - a little bit so I think it'll be better if you use Ctrl + J to change slider to a different path to make it easier to follow ctrl+J has overlap too

02:57:630 (2) - If you follow above move to X:324 Y:320

04:14:713 (1) - Ctrl + H maybe? Not sure if the overlap with 04:13:879 (3) - is appropriate nope, itentional here

05:04:713 (1) - Suggest rotating heart 14 degrees clockwise, makes it completely vertical itentional

Meramipop wrote:
~~usually, centuries is longer than everlasting, sometimes even years is longer than that~~

Xinely's Years:
it's good, is it better to change one of the hearts to the tree ww this song related with love theme too, that's why i made a heart

Lanturn wrote:
Heya Hinsvar. BoA <3
[Xinely]
01:09:297 (2,3,4,1) - Move the (3) and (4) slider down a bit so you can stack the (2) and (1) together. This also removes a bit of clumpiness that caught my attention in the first place. fixed in Ritsu's mod ~
02:05:547 (4,1) - move the end point to x300 y252 for a better blanket fixed a little bit too
02:13:047 (1) - Control+G maybe? Reverse arrows really are better suited to be placed on the edges of the maps when given a choice. You'll have to adjust the next couple circles if you do this. right, nice catch
02:48:464 (3,4,1) - how about this pattern? | http://puu.sh/5IcEd.jpg | maybe even consider having the slider end go into the head of (1)? sorry for this, i want to make harder than your example. also i following drum sound here
03:00:547 (1,1) - Nudge the tail node over to x288 y248? | Better blanket, though it might need some work still umm, fixed by my own
03:05:963 (2) - Try moving the middle node out a bit on this as well. It gets a bit close to the tail end of (1) in the middle fixed a little bit
03:15:963 (2) - Not sure what the purpose of this 1/4 slider is. You haven't really been using 1/4 sliders except to follow the dominant vocal sounds, so using it on a held vocal note here is a bit strange to me. okay
03:41:380 (1,2) - it may end up being a bit boring, but I would suggest joining these two into one long slider so players don't mistake the strong vocals here. Much like what you have at 03:38:046 (1) - gomene again, ya-a-te <-- based this i mapped the vocal.
04:03:046 (3) - how about adding a finish to the reverse since you have so much built up from all the previous finishes following the dominant vocals. finish is heard bad to me, no cymbal or anything, just loud drum, and i used clap for them
05:22:629 (2,1) - Join these two as one slider. 05:23:046 (1) - hits nothing, and sounds/plays awful. You have tick rate 2 anyways. for this i mapped rhythm, especially 05:23:046 - based sound tick like "tik tik" also low piano sound
Very nice Diff. Mostly just nazi suggestions.

Mostly red reply lol, basically i just prefer mine >3<
oh Lanturn, thanks 4 give me a nice idea from ur mod ~
but thanks 4 mods all ~ i'm appreciate with your ideas

Update

osu file format v12

[General]
AudioFilename: Winter Love.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 74922
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
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DistanceSpacing: 1.1
BeatDivisor: 8
GridSize: 4

[Metadata]
Title:Winter Love
TitleUnicode:Winter Love
Artist:BoA
ArtistUnicode:BoA
Creator:Hinsvar
Version:Xinely's Years
Source:
Tags:Kwon 권보아 Beat of Angel Made in Twenty (20) Xinely Setsurei
BeatmapID:331138
BeatmapSetID:130719

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:3
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:3
ApproachRate:4
SliderMultiplier:1.5
SliderTickRate:2

[Events]
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268,200,236379,2,0,P|304:244|360:252,1,112.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,252,237213,2,0,P|408:212|400:176,1,75,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,108,238046,6,0,P|304:68|224:88,1,150,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,144,239296,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,224,239713,2,0,P|248:264|328:244,1,150,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
384,192,240963,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,124,241379,6,0,P|268:99|203:131,1,150,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
156,198,242629,1,0,0:0:0:0:
205,264,243046,2,0,P|273:289|338:257,2,150,4|10|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,244817,12,8,247213,0:0:0:0:
248,292,248046,6,0,P|292:312|376:264,1,150,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,104,249713,2,0,P|350:59|336:21,2,75,2|0|10,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
304,180,250963,1,0,0:0:0:0:
228,216,251379,6,0,P|176:240|96:200,2,150,4|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
276,148,253463,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,92,253879,2,0,P|380:88|420:96,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
476,44,254713,6,0,P|440:96|480:180,1,150,2|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
492,252,255963,1,2,0:0:0:0:
428,300,256379,2,0,P|380:328|288:292,1,150,0|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
220,264,257629,1,0,0:0:0:0:
148,220,258046,6,0,P|128:152|168:72,1,150,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
324,76,259713,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,224,260546,2,0,L|320:272,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,348,261379,6,0,P|272:320|252:240,1,150,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
260,160,262630,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,92,263046,2,0,P|360:76|416:88,1,112.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
436,120,263880,2,0,P|444:160|432:208,1,75,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
416,272,264713,6,0,P|388:308|312:320,1,112.5,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
284,316,265546,2,0,P|248:300|204:296,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
132,284,266380,2,0,P|116:232|136:180,2,112.5,2|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
200,332,268046,6,0,P|264:364|340:328,1,150,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
400,288,269296,1,0,0:0:0:0:
412,208,269713,2,0,P|396:172|368:144,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
328,216,270546,2,0,P|291:201|251:201,2,75,10|0|4,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,271484,12,2,274713,0:0:0:0:
44,180,281380,6,0,P|88:144|116:136,1,75,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
180,176,282213,2,0,P|220:200|320:156,1,150,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,116,283463,1,0,0:0:0:0:
452,136,283879,2,0,L|488:208,1,75,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
404,216,284713,6,0,L|380:300,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,352,285546,2,0,P|356:364|304:312,2,150,8|2|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,284,287629,1,0,0:0:0:0:
468,204,288046,6,0,P|464:152|444:120,1,75,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
388,84,288879,2,0,P|348:108|308:108,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
262,50,289713,2,0,P|238:126|282:186,1,150,2|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
332,240,290963,1,0,0:0:0:0:
404,204,291379,6,0,P|432:160|416:88,2,112.5,2|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
364,276,293046,2,0,P|312:308|224:296,1,150,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
148,272,294296,1,0,0:0:0:0:
144,188,294713,6,0,P|140:148|152:104,1,75,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
108,44,295546,2,0,P|144:36|181:40,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
260,8,296379,2,0,P|264:45|256:81,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,297213,2,0,P|250:164|214:156,1,75,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
170,84,298046,6,0,P|134:144|161:226,1,150,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
204,284,299296,1,0,0:0:0:0:
284,304,299713,2,0,P|328:320|400:296,1,112.5,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
420,276,300546,2,0,P|416:240|424:200,1,75,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
432,120,301379,6,0,P|400:88|332:76,1,112.5,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
296,80,302213,2,0,L|208:92,1,75,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
140,104,303046,1,2,0:0:0:0:
104,264,303879,1,14,0:0:0:0:
244,176,304713,38,0,B|148:143|145:301|263:311|325:357|325:357|361:289|460:213|368:84|313:157,1,600,6|4,0:0|0:0,3:0:0:0:
256,192,308150,12,2,310546,0:0:0:0:
144,248,311379,6,0,P|192:264|288:236,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,304,312629,2,0,P|364:256|324:160,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
272,120,313879,1,2,0:0:0:0:
188,112,314296,1,0,0:0:0:0:
120,64,314713,6,0,P|105:134|168:191,1,150,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
224,232,315963,2,0,P|236:192|232:152,1,75,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
228,76,316796,1,0,0:0:0:0:
152,48,317213,2,0,L|104:48,2,37.5,0|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
228,76,318046,6,0,P|300:64|384:92,1,150,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
436,32,319296,2,0,P|408:96|444:168,1,150,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
440,248,320546,2,0,L|476:284,2,37.5,0|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
372,296,321379,6,0,P|304:296|260:220,1,150,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
240,152,322629,1,2,0:0:0:0:
196,80,323046,6,0,B|272:52|320:120|320:120|409:145|467:57,1,300,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,324817,12,0,334713,0:0:0:0:

Backstep

1,007 posts

Joined September 2009

Backstep 2013-12-14T16:42:52+00:00

Sorry for delay :/

M4M as your request \:D/

General

~~- Please check every difficulties, you will get something like this www~~ Someone mod now, so ignore this ;w;

SPOILER

Xinely

Hitsound
00:51:411 (1) - What about this clap? Remove it please (clap every 4 beat better 2 beat orz) owo
01:01:411 (1) - You forget clap at end slider.
01:05:577 (2) - Clap.
01:08:077 (1) - You forget clap at end slider.
01:39:714 (1) - Finish at start slider. (for same your second kiai)
02:06:380 (1) - Forget clap at repeat slider.
03:53:046 (3) - You forget clap at end slider.
04:01:379 (1) - ^
04:53:046 (2) - ^
04:58:046 (1) - ^ again ._.

Pattern
05:23:046 (1) - Move 2nd waypoint 1 grid up to make more blanket with (2)

Centuries

Hitsound
02:16:380 (1) - You forget finish here.
02:38:255 (x) - You can feel at empty rhythm right? you can add some note here. (if you follow vocal ignore this.)
03:45:546 (2) - You forget clap.
04:07:213 (1) - ^

Pattern
04:30:546 (6) - Move 2nd waypoint to x:72 y:188 it more flow.
05:17:629 (1,2) - Swap this notes it look better?

Everlasting

Hitsound
Fine for me...

Pattern
00:14:605 (2) - Wait... why 1/6 note here ? D: Maybe try this?

01:21:411 (3) - Move this note to 128,368 to avoid overlap (1)
01:32:869 (4) - Move to 32,276 to make 01:31:827 (2,4,1) - for same spacing (look better isn't it

)
04:30:264 (2) - I think this note hard a bit to reading, can you rearrange it? D:

Good luck <3

Last edited by Backstep 2013-12-17T09:23:08+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

RandF

1,245 posts

Joined March 2013

RandF 2013-12-15T04:32:41+00:00

From my queue~

[Centuries]

offset and previewpoint conflict with other diffs. check again
01:23:672 (2) - move to x:78 y:235
01:31:797 (5,6) - I prefer not to stack
03:31:380 (1,2) - I prefer not to stack
05:03:046 (1,2,3) - it is better to decrease DS. around this part, it's easy to lose rhythm

[Everlasting]

00:13:390 (4) - I prefer to delete
03:23:076 (1,2) - make symmetrically like 03:23:910 (1,2) -
03:42:035 (4,1) - I prefer not to stack
03:56:409- whistle?
04:04:326 (3,4) - I prefer Ctrl+G
05:24:743 (1) - !? amazing art~

[Xinely's Years]

Many objects are not snapped!
00:52:244- not clap but whistle?
02:57:630 (2) - I prefer delete and spinner start at this time
04:16:379 (3) - add whistle at slider's head?
04:58:046 (1) - add clap at slider end

nice SB as ever, Setsurei

~Good Luck~

Hinsvar

osu! Alumni

3,789 posts

Joined December 2011

Topic Starter

Hinsvar 2013-12-15T05:03:49+00:00

RandomEffect wrote:
From my queue~

[Centuries]
offset and previewpoint conflict with other diffs. check again Oops, forgot to shift them.
01:23:672 (2) - move to x:78 y:235 Sure.
01:31:797 (5,6) - I prefer not to stack Why? It's still perfectly readable...
03:31:380 (1,2) - I prefer not to stack ^
05:03:046 (1,2,3) - it is better to decrease DS. around this part, it's easy to lose rhythm I personally think it fits with how intense the instrument is here, but I'll reconsider.
[Everlasting]
00:13:390 (4) - I prefer to delete Ah, okay then.
03:23:076 (1,2) - make symmetrically like 03:23:910 (1,2) - This is intentional to make it flow better.
03:42:035 (4,1) - I prefer not to stack I personally have no problem with this...
03:56:409- whistle? Okay.
04:04:326 (3,4) - I prefer Ctrl+G It'll break the flow here, so no.
05:24:743 (1) - !? amazing art~ lol thanks
[Xinely's Years]
Many objects are not snapped! Fixed.
00:52:244- not clap but whistle? I find a clap to be more accurate in representing the instrument here.
02:57:630 (2) - I prefer delete and spinner start at this time Made it similar to the spinner before the first chorus, instead.
04:16:379 (3) - add whistle at slider's head? The instrument is stronger at 04:15:993 (2), though, so no, because there will be too much whistle sounds here.
04:58:046 (1) - add clap at slider end Pfft I forgot lol

Thanks for modding!

KSHR

Global Moderator

1,668 posts

Joined July 2010

KSHR 2013-12-16T17:27:44+00:00

modding

[Xinely’s Normal]

SPOILER

00:12:661 (2) - add a whistle to the beginning instead of removing one from the end. I think the piano like should be completed to keep your whistle pattern in this part.
00:14:952 (1) - remove a whistle. I can hear the piano at the end, but the soft-hit is more fitting.
01:05:161 (1,2) - feel kinda empty. it’d probably better to add a whistle to (2). (well I know you followed sounds of piano though)
01:07:661 (6) - remove this whistle. there is no sound of the piano here, also I feel it’s disturbing the next accentuated sound slightly (the beginning of 01:08:077 (1) - ).
01:15:577 (1) - the custom clap doesn’t fit well imo. the climax part starts from 01:16:411 - , so I think your custom clap pattern should be done from there as well. if you wanna add a hitsound to the beginning of (1), then normal-hit is better.
01:15:577 (1,2) - it’d be better to make a slider with 1/2 beat like 03:00:577 (1) - instead of these sliders for consistency.
01:26:411 (1) - this’s just my taste of the hitsound, so there is no reason! how about adding a whistle instead of a custom clap?

02:22:244 (3,1,2,3) - a bit bad flow imo. if I were you, I’d rearrange like screenshots.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1177020 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1177021

348,184,144327,5,2,0:0:0:0:
384,108,144744,2,0,P|456:88|515:134,2,150,2|8|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
348,184,146827,6,0,P|336:220|340:264,1,75,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
368,336,147660,1,0,0:0:0:0:

03:00:577 (1) - the same suggestion as 01:15:577 (1) -

03:09:326 (2,3) - (3) shouldn’t be placed below (2) considering the flow. try this placement. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1177064

236,160,187243,1,10,0:0:0:0:
224,244,187660,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,288,188076,6,0,P|368:280|420:224,1,150,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
440,144,189326,1,0,0:0:0:0:

03:31:410 (1) - ~~why indonesian mappers love patterns which look like a pantsu so much? I really can’t unde..wow...it’s a heart mark? nvm..~~

03:35:993 (3,4,5) - try this code. this surely fits much better than the current hitsound pattern!

192,100,215993,2,0,L|160:68,2,37.5,2|2|0,3:0|3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
184,184,216826,1,0,1:0:0:0:
228,256,217243,2,0,L|208:304,2,37.5,2|2|0,3:2|3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:

^just changed hitsounds.

04:26:410 (3) - it’s impossible to follow this guitar line perfectly in Normal difficulty imo. try this pattern which is following it partly.
05:04:743 (1) - change the sampleset of the sliderslide to Auto. the sound of the soft-tick surely fits much better with this song because it sounds like the bell which reminds me christmas! eh..it’s just me..?
05:17:243 (4) - 05:14:326 (4) doesn’t have a whistle, so it’d be better add one only to the beginning for consistency.
05:20:576 (3) - same as above.
05:23:076 (1) - it’s strange for me to start this slider from here, because there is no sound to follow with an object. it’d be nice if you replace in another pattern like this.

[Centuries]

SPOILER

00:03:911 (4) - a whistle should be added to the beginning to make consistence with 00:00:577 (1) - . btw forgot to add a nc here or it’s intentional?
00:10:577 (5) - same as above.
00:12:661 (2) - add a whistle to the beginning and complete your whistle pattern.
00:13:911 (1) - I prefer to reduce the volume about by 10% at the end.
00:36:411 (3) - how about about removing this note? that way can vary your pattern and respect the quiet melody.
00:46:827 (4,5,6,7,8) - I feel these objects are following too much consider the quiet melody. the best way I think is make patterns with the same sound as 00:44:744 (1,2) - like the image. try it once.

or, it’d be probably better to break the flow once at 00:46:411 (3,4) - according to the melody like this.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1190976
00:54:744 (1) - remove a whistle from the end instead of adding clap to keep your hitsounds pattern.
01:12:661 (3) - make a 1/4 slider instead. it’s more fitting with the vocal.
01:14:744 (1) - this’s my taste. how about adding a finish to each object? (beginning: at 15%, end: at 20%)
01:23:598 (2) - as I told you in pm :3
01:28:911 (1) - I feel the custom clap at the beginning doesn’t fit very well with the song, so I think you can remove it and intentionally break your clap pattern here once. (I mean a whistle only is better here). 03:13:910 (1) - and 04:47:243 (1) - too.
01:35:161 (5) - there is the same sound as 01:34:744 - , so how about stacking the end of 01:34:536 (4) - with this note? and the screenshot is my suggestion for this placement.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1190993
```
30,208,95161,1,0,0:0:0:0:
159,320,95577,2,0,P|170:289|169:257,1,62.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,240,95994,2,0,P|243:209|223:188,1,62.5
```
02:16:202 (2) - I understand why you used a drum-sampleset here, but it sounds kinda strange for me. try changing it to Normal-one at 20% volume or so ;p
02:27:869 (3) - I prefer to remove this note and add one at 02:27:452 - to follow the vocal.
02:59:744 (1,2) - a slider speed is changed here, so it’s not good to make a jump with the nearly spacing as 03:01:202 (4,1) - . I recommend stacking the end (1) with (2).
03:16:201 (4,1,2,3) - a jump should be started from (1) considering the vocal and the drum. I mean -> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1191068
03:18:701 (2) - how about breaking the flow slightly and making a jump here like the screenshot? it’s more fitting with the song imo. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1191078
03:42:035 - it will be nice if there is an extra note here to follow the vocal.
04:23:076 (1,2,3,4) - players will be probably confused about spacings. I’m sure you should make them clearer. btw stacking the beginning of (2) with (3,4) is the easiest way to fix imo.
04:34:743 (1) - a finish is more fitting than whistle imo.

04:45:993 (2,1,2,3) - same as 03:16:201 - , and a suggestion for the placement. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1191119

404,200,285993,2,0,L|328:188,1,62.5
300,144,286409,5,2,0:0:0:0:
220,224,286618,1,0,3:0:0:0:
132,156,286826,1,0,0:0:0:0:

05:03:909 (4,5) - a confusing spacing! make it larger.
05:09:326 (3) - remove a whistle from the beginning, or reduce the volume by 10% only there to vary the hitsounds. that way would be cool imo.
05:23:493 (2) - it’d be better to add a whistle to 05:23:909 (3) - not here, and gradually reduce the volume of 05:23:076 (1,2,3,4,1) - imo.

[Everlasting]

SPOILER

00:02:244 (1) - remove a whistle from the end. it’s disturbing next one. also, add one to the beginning to follow the piano instead if you want.
00:11:827 (2) - remove a whistle from the end for the same reason as above.
00:13:911 (1) - how about rotating about by 5 like this? the current slant of this slider seems too simple imo. also it’s more fitting with the flow. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1182824
00:27:452 (4,5) - it'd be better to unstack these objects like (2,3) considering the vocal. how about this placement? it’s too simple though. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1182641
00:50:369 (4,1,2,3,4) - these jumps are larger than climax parts’ ones, so they should be reduced imo.
00:52:244 (2,3,4,5) - a nice cat’s paw print~
01:14:744 (1) - remove a whistle from the end. a soft-hit will fit better with the song.
01:34:327 (4) - there is the sound of the bass drum at the end. how about following it with the beginning like 01:35:161 (3) - to make consistent?

also try this pattern.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1183088 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1183090
```
504,144,94327,1,0,0:0:0:0:
418,120,94536,2,0,L|332:136,1,87.5,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,56,94952,1,0,0:0:0:0:
504,144,95161,2,0,P|508:188|492:240,1,87.5
```
01:38:494 (2) - just my opinion, but I would make a blanket if I were you.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1183356
01:45:369 - personally I feel the need to put anything here, because any sounds don't　stop. so I suggest this pattern to fix. also I prefer to stack 01:44:744 (1) - with (2) to follow the drum.
02:05:160 (3) - this stack doesn’t fit well with the vocal imo. also I prefer to stack (1) with (2) to follow it.
02:39:744 (1) - this jump is against the flow and too large. it’d be better for the flow to make a jump like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1185822
02:54:952 (4,5) - how about this pattern like the image? it’s more fitting with the song (especially sounds of the high-hat cymbal)

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1185848
03:13:076 (1,2,3) - it’s a good idea to make jumps here. but I think these jumps which were placed with nearly equal spacings are damaging fun. so I suggest you replacing in unequal ones like the screenshot. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1185910
03:16:410 (1) - it’d be better for the flow to move this note to leftward like this imo. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1185919
03:45:368 (2,3,4) - this's just my taste, there’s no reason. but I prefer to make a jump here. that way will be cool. so how about the placement like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1185923
03:50:993 (3,4) - this jump shouldn’t be placed in nearly equal spacings as 03:50:576 (1,2,3) - , because there is a difference in the volume of the drum between (1,2,3) and (3,4) . so it’d be better to reduce the spacing of (3,4) to follow the drum.
04:40:993 (3,4,5) - this triple is against the flow. so how about making a stack at (3)? that will be easier for players to play.
05:12:243 (1) - same as 00:02:244 (1) -
05:24:743 (1) - a nice ~~drill~~ tree! also I feel volumes are kinda loud. try reducing from 60/50/40 to 40/30/20. it’s more fitting with the song imo.

btw, there is nothing wrong with Japanese lyric~
sorry to be late, and good luck ;3

Hinsvar wrote:
KSHR wrote:
you don't have to rush, so fix in your own pace. ganbare~ ;p
Nah, Christmas is coming, so... lol

Thanks!

ah, I forgot that ww

Last edited by KSHR 2013-12-22T07:48:08+00:00, edited 4 times in total.

ampzz

ampzz 2013-12-17T04:13:39+00:00

GeneralOffset I found to be late; what you're after is -1932 (-10 ms) but in all honesty I don't know why you're bothering to map the beats before the 00:01:401 - mark in the harder difficulties at all. Have the rhythm mapping kick off on the stanza mark which gives everyone a better focus on what beats they will be playing.

The settings in this spread are really weird. You've got;

Easy as 3/4/3 where the approach rate is way too fast for the easiest difficulty considering how low BPM this song actually is; reduce it by at least one tick.
The middle difficulty feels more like a Hard so the spread itself is generally biased towards a higher rate of difficulty without much focus on a mid ground which is quite weird.
Finally to Insane just goes all out which is reasonable.

Note: All of these mods are before the offset correction has been implemented.

Xinely's YearsOverall your spacing in this difficulty is rather inconsistent as you've got -0.02 ~ +0.04 variances in distance snap which is actually quite noticeable on a lot of the map. Please just go through (after disabling Grid Snap) and tidy all of it up so the difficulty looks better.

Just briefly going over a few things which are personally displeasing to see since it is a common occurrence throughout the entire difficulty sso basically apply the same theories brought up here into the rest of the map itself.

00:01:411 (1,2,3,4,1) - This arrangement is quite untidy and not visually pleasing in my opinion. The (1,2) both just looked randomly placed and (2,3) run off is gaudy to reach; aim for smooth transitions between every object like this -
00:04:744 (1) - This slider is far too 'steep' with the red anchor being there. The sounds that this slider is holding onto has a soft and linear feel to them so change this to a wave slider instead; rough example -
00:08:077 (1,2) -
00:09:327 (2,3,1,2,3) - There is no concept of flow here as the sliders just feel randomly placed without any thought of emphasising the music at all nor aiming for smooth cursor transitioning between the section. The outro of all this is the worst offender with 00:12:661 (2,3) - just being a really awkward and unnecessary snap.
00:19:327 (3,5) - These beats are unnecessary so remove them; focus purely on the piano tones which occur here which bring full emphasis the the highest point in the vocal notes as well as playing nicer in general as it gives a clear focus on which rhythm the beginners should be playing. This is the easiest difficulty so it should be mapped in a way that a completely clear rhythm can be heard and played to.
00:21:411 (1,2,3) - This is a prime example of where some better combo formation would have been perfect to emphasise the song more but you've chosen to just tightly place the object in a very forced obtuse triangle-like pattern
00:24:327 (4) - Same deal as 00:19:327 (3,5) - ; just focus on emphasising the piano instead of trying to mux in the offbeat vocals.
00:24:744 (1) - Map this as just a circle instead as there is nothing at all on the offbeat this 1/2 slider ends on that warrants it to be mapped like this.
00:30:994 (3) - Same deal as the other recommended actions; remove this as it doesn't have an instrumental focus.
00:31:411 (1,2,3,4) - Poor combo formation again, it's gaudy to look at as well as play. Please rework areas to have an optimal flow as well as smooth transition without the awkward cursor jarring.
00:35:994 (2,3,4,1,2) - Pretty obvious that you trapped yourself in the corner here swapping to a purely linear style which seriously conflicts with how the rest of this intro section has been mapped and just looks off. Topping that off with how (1,2) transitions with a weird snap just makes it even more awkward.

Going to stop here since a lot of the other issues I have with the mapset are exactly the same.

I will note however that 05:24:847 (1) - is highly advised that you shrink this spinner by at least two seconds since it is ridiculously long for beginners to play and will tire them out immensely. Heck, ideally I would prefer for the spinner to end on 05:28:076 - instead since there is no sense in having such a needlessly drawn out spinner.

CenturiesGive me a buzz after you have resnapped all the hundred plus notes and slider ends that are off.

You've even got illegally placed notes like 04:41:380 (1,2) - for example.

Hit me up again after Xinely's Normal difficulty has been tweaked and all of the unsnapped notes, etc. have been corrected in Centuries. Won't touch Everlasting until I can confidently complete the prior two difficulties first.

Hinsvar

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Hinsvar 2013-12-21T06:06:29+00:00

Stuff happened over the last week, and that made me unable to access osu!, so...

Give me some time; gotta check everything.

KSHR

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KSHR 2013-12-21T07:30:39+00:00

you don't have to rush, so fix in your own pace. ganbare~ ;p

Hinsvar

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Hinsvar 2013-12-22T01:19:06+00:00

KSHR wrote:
you don't have to rush, so fix in your own pace. ganbare~ ;p

Nah, Christmas is coming, so... lol

Thanks!

Backstep wrote:
Sorry for delay :/

M4M as your request \:D/

General

~~- Please check every difficulties, you will get something like this www~~ Someone mod now, so ignore this ;w; Should be fixed.
SPOILER

Centuries

Hitsound
02:16:380 (1) - You forget finish here. Don't you think the instrument is... not heavy enough?
02:38:255 (x) - You can feel at empty rhythm right? you can add some note here. (if you follow vocal ignore this.) I think there isn't anything to follow here.
03:45:546 (2) - You forget clap. Oops.
04:07:213 (1) - ^ ^

Pattern
04:30:546 (6) - Move 2nd waypoint to x:72 y:188 it more flow. Sure.
05:17:629 (1,2) - Swap this notes it look better? Hmm, it will make the flow worse, though. Also, I've positioned them like this so they'll accurately follow how the instruments here go, so...

Everlasting

Hitsound
Fine for me... Okay.

Pattern
00:14:605 (2) - Wait... why 1/6 note here ? D: Maybe try this? The current rhythm works better, IMO. I'll keep this for now, since it seems to be more accurate this way.
01:21:411 (3) - Move this note to 128,368 to avoid overlap (1) Did stuff by myself.
01:32:869 (4) - Move to 32,276 to make 01:31:827 (2,4,1) - for same spacing (look better isn't it ) Ah, sure.
04:30:264 (2) - I think this note hard a bit to reading, can you rearrange it? D: Are you sure? I can read it without any difficulty...

Good luck <3

Thanks for the mod!

~~Will check KSHR's mod once he's done with the Centuries diff.~~

KSHR wrote:
[Centuries]
SPOILER
00:03:911 (4) - a whistle should be added to the beginning to make consistence with 00:00:577 (1) - . btw forgot to add a nc here or it’s intentional? Nope; the instrument is stronger at 00:04:327. And I can't see why should I add an NC here.
00:10:577 (5) - same as above. ^
00:12:661 (2) - add a whistle to the beginning and complete your whistle pattern. The instrument is stronger at 00:12:869...
00:13:911 (1) - I prefer to reduce the volume about by 10% at the end. Actually, I'm sure the instrument isn't that weak...
00:36:411 (3) - how about about removing this note? that way can vary your pattern and respect the quiet melody. ^
00:46:827 (4,5,6,7,8) - I feel these objects are following too much consider the quiet melody. the best way I think is make patterns with the same sound as 00:44:744 (1,2) - like the image. try it once.

or, it’d be probably better to break the flow once at 00:46:411 (3,4) - according to the melody like this.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1190976 Did the first one.
00:54:744 (1) - remove a whistle from the end instead of adding clap to keep your hitsounds pattern. Well, the instrument doesn't sound like a drum snare or something here, so I broke the pattern...
01:12:661 (3) - make a 1/4 slider instead. it’s more fitting with the vocal. Uh, I think the vocal's already emphasized enough. The vocal on that blue tick doesn't seem too important to be mapped.
01:14:744 (1) - this’s my taste. how about adding a finish to each object? (beginning: at 15%, end: at 20%) The instrument isn't that heavy... lol
01:23:598 (2) - as I told you in pm :3 Resnapped correctly.
01:28:911 (1) - I feel the custom clap at the beginning doesn’t fit very well with the song, so I think you can remove it and intentionally break your clap pattern here once. (I mean a whistle only is better here). 03:13:910 (1) - and 04:47:243 (1) - too. Hmm idk; the clap actually goes well with the drum snare.
01:35:161 (5) - there is the same sound as 01:34:744 - , so how about stacking the end of 01:34:536 (4) - with this note? and the screenshot is my suggestion for this placement. Tweaked the pattern by myself.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1190993
30,208,95161,1,0,0:0:0:0:
159,320,95577,2,0,P|170:289|169:257,1,62.5,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
256,240,95994,2,0,P|243:209|223:188,1,62.5
02:16:202 (2) - I understand why you used a drum-sampleset here, but it sounds kinda strange for me. try changing it to Normal-one at 20% volume or so ;p I feel strange too, but Normal doesn't seem to go well, anyway... Guess I'll make it stay Soft.
02:27:869 (3) - I prefer to remove this note and add one at 02:27:452 - to follow the vocal. The instrument is stronger than the vocal, though, so...
02:59:744 (1,2) - a slider speed is changed here, so it’s not good to make a jump with the nearly spacing as 03:01:202 (4,1) - . I recommend stacking the end (1) with (2). Weird... It's completely readable for me. And no, I don't want to stack them; the jump is used to emphasize the drum that is being played at 03:00:369. Stacking them will make the pattern reflect the song less accurately...
03:16:201 (4,1,2,3) - a jump should be started from (1) considering the vocal and the drum. I mean -> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1191068 Nope; there should be a jump from (4,1) followed by smaller jumps later. That's the most correct way to follow the instrument's flow...
03:18:701 (2) - how about breaking the flow slightly and making a jump here like the screenshot? it’s more fitting with the song imo. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1191078 I don't feel like doing some flow-breaking stuff, and I also don't think it fits the song any better... ._.
03:42:035 - it will be nice if there is an extra note here to follow the vocal. Okay.
04:23:076 (1,2,3,4) - players will be probably confused about spacings. I’m sure you should make them clearer. btw stacking the beginning of (2) with (3,4) is the easiest way to fix imo. I seriously don't know how to fix this. I guess I'll make a manual stack.
04:34:743 (1) - a finish is more fitting than whistle imo. The instrument isn't that strong...
04:45:993 (2,1,2,3) - same as 03:16:201 - , and a suggestion for the placement. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1191119 Nope; see the reason there, too.
404,200,285993,2,0,L|328:188,1,62.5
300,144,286409,5,2,0:0:0:0:
220,224,286618,1,0,3:0:0:0:
132,156,286826,1,0,0:0:0:0:
05:03:909 (4,5) - a confusing spacing! make it larger. ^
05:09:326 (3) - remove a whistle from the beginning, or reduce the volume by 10% only there to vary the hitsounds. that way would be cool imo. I can't think why it's cool at all... I mean, the variation will make the hitsound inaccurately reflect the instruments... Maybe no orz
05:23:493 (2) - it’d be better to add a whistle to 05:23:909 (3) - not here, and gradually reduce the volume of 05:23:076 (1,2,3,4,1) - imo. Uh, but there's almost nothing at (3)... Why would I have a whistle here? And why I should do a gradual volume reduce, since the song doesn't call for it? o.o
[Everlasting]
SPOILER
00:02:244 (1) - remove a whistle from the end. it’s disturbing next one. also, add one to the beginning to follow the piano instead if you want. I'm not quite sure if my ears are weird, but I'm sure as hell the two whistles are synchronizing each other nicely and follows the ipiano accurately... orz
00:11:827 (2) - remove a whistle from the end for the same reason as above. Oh, okay for this one.
00:13:911 (1) - how about rotating about by 5 like this? the current slant of this slider seems too simple imo. also it’s more fitting with the flow. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1182824 Sure; made it curved, even.
00:27:452 (4,5) - it'd be better to unstack these objects like (2,3) considering the vocal. how about this placement? it’s too simple though. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1182641 This follows how the vocal flows pretty nicely, IMO. I'm not sure if this is just me, but yep, something feels wrong if I made them look like that.
00:50:369 (4,1,2,3,4) - these jumps are larger than climax parts’ ones, so they should be reduced imo. Done.
00:52:244 (2,3,4,5) - a nice cat’s paw print~ Unfortunately, I have to get rid of them in order to fix the problem you mentioned above lol
01:14:744 (1) - remove a whistle from the end. a soft-hit will fit better with the song. Removed the one from the beginning, instead.
01:34:327 (4) - there is the sound of the bass drum at the end. how about following it with the beginning like 01:35:161 (3) - to make consistent? Uh, I can't see any point of doing that, actually...

also try this pattern.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1183088 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1183090
504,144,94327,1,0,0:0:0:0:
418,120,94536,2,0,L|332:136,1,87.5,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,56,94952,1,0,0:0:0:0:
504,144,95161,2,0,P|508:188|492:240,1,87.5
01:38:494 (2) - just my opinion, but I would make a blanket if I were you. The current pattern gives a nicer flow, so maybe I'll slip on that.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1183356
01:45:369 - personally I feel the need to put anything here, because any sounds don't　stop. so I suggest this pattern to fix. also I prefer to stack 01:44:744 (1) - with (2) to follow the drum. Hmm, the vocal is being held here and there isn't any instrument that plays on this tick, so yeah. And stacking those two circles doesn't seem to be right... orz
02:05:160 (3) - this stack doesn’t fit well with the vocal imo. also I prefer to stack (1) with (2) to follow it. Sure thing.
02:39:744 (1) - this jump is against the flow and too large. it’d be better for the flow to make a jump like this http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1185822 Is it? I've made sure that the jump here stays in flow with the previous patterns...
02:54:952 (4,5) - how about this pattern like the image? it’s more fitting with the song (especially sounds of the high-hat cymbal) idk... Something feels really wrong if I made the pattern look like that. I just remapped the entire part here, btw.

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1185848
03:13:076 (1,2,3) - it’s a good idea to make jumps here. but I think these jumps which were placed with nearly equal spacings are damaging fun. so I suggest you replacing in unequal ones like the screenshot. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1185910 Tweaked stuff here.
03:16:410 (1) - it’d be better for the flow to move this note to leftward like this imo. http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1185919 Okay.
03:45:368 (2,3,4) - this's just my taste, there’s no reason. but I prefer to make a jump here. that way will be cool. so how about the placement like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1185923 The pattern... feels weird for some reason orz
03:50:993 (3,4) - this jump shouldn’t be placed in nearly equal spacings as 03:50:576 (1,2,3) - , because there is a difference in the volume of the drum between (1,2,3) and (3,4) . so it’d be better to reduce the spacing of (3,4) to follow the drum. I think they're the same, actually. Not quite sure about this part; will reconsider, though, if more people mentions this.
04:40:993 (3,4,5) - this triple is against the flow. so how about making a stack at (3)? that will be easier for players to play. This actually follows the angle of the flow from the first two circles correctly, so no.
05:12:243 (1) - same as 00:02:244 (1) - Same reply as that one too.
05:24:743 (1) - a nice ~~drill~~ tree! also I feel volumes are kinda loud. try reducing from 60/50/40 to 40/30/20. it’s more fitting with the song imo. 40/35/30 should be enough...
btw, there is nothing wrong with Japanese lyric~ \:D/
sorry to be late, and good luck ;3

Thanks to you too~

ampzz next.

ampzz wrote:
GeneralOffset I found to be late; what you're after is -1932 (-10 ms) but in all honesty I don't know why you're bothering to map the beats before the 00:01:401 - mark in the harder difficulties at all. Have the rhythm mapping kick off on the stanza mark which gives everyone a better focus on what beats they will be playing. Changed the offset. For mapping the notes before 00:01:401... Wait, is it wrong? It allows players to pick up the rhythm so they can follow the beats after that time mark better.

The settings in this spread are really weird. You've got;
Easy as 3/4/3 where the approach rate is way too fast for the easiest difficulty considering how low BPM this song actually is; reduce it by at least one tick.
The middle difficulty feels more like a Hard so the spread itself is generally biased towards a higher rate of difficulty without much focus on a mid ground which is quite weird.
Finally to Insane just goes all out which is reasonable.

Didn't I clearly state the difficulty spread in Creator's Words? It's supposed to be N/H/I. Not sure how did you end up making these conclusions to the point where it looked like I didn't tell them...

Fixed the unsnapped notes in Centuries, too. And Xinely also fixed things; she just didn't want to reply for... some reason.

Thanks for the mods so far.

UnitedWeSin

889 posts

Joined July 2012

UnitedWeSin 2013-12-28T04:42:32+00:00

IRC Mod

20:04 UnitedWeSin: hi
20:04 Hinsvar: Hi

20:04 UnitedWeSin: c: I was just looking at Winter Love
20:05 UnitedWeSin: are you waiting for mods still?
20:05 Hinsvar: I'm waiting for ampzz, but he seems to be MIA for a week already.
20:05 Hinsvar: His mod is WIP right now, and... well, it seems to be taking too long.
20:06 Hinsvar: Not sure what happened lol
20:06 UnitedWeSin: hmm well I'd like to bubble it
20:06 UnitedWeSin: idk if you'd like to wait
20:07 Hinsvar: o.o
20:08 Hinsvar: I'd like to wait for ampzz actually...
20:08 Hinsvar: But I fear he's gonna take too much time.
20:08 Hinsvar: It's almost New Year lol
20:08 UnitedWeSin: k lol
20:08 Hinsvar: If you think it's ready, you may bubble it.
20:08 UnitedWeSin: I'll post my little mod then
20:08 Hinsvar: If he complains, I'll deal with it myself.
20:08 Hinsvar: Okay

20:08 UnitedWeSin: I was concerned a bit with Hard
20:08 UnitedWeSin: i found some of the jumps super hard to read
20:08 UnitedWeSin: at AR6
20:09 UnitedWeSin: maybe it's me
20:09 Hinsvar: Hmm yep, most modders have found the Hard diff to be kinda problematic...
20:09 Hinsvar: Which ones, btw?

20:11 UnitedWeSin: well on a first playthrough when you double spacing like 00:24:526 (5,1) -
20:11 UnitedWeSin: it's throws the player off unless they read ar6 all day I suppose
20:12 Hinsvar: Maybe you're right on that.
20:12 Hinsvar: I had a LOT of jumps like that before Lanturn told me to reduce it.
20:12 Hinsvar: Maybe I should refrain from using it a lot? lo
20:12 Hinsvar: lol
20:13 UnitedWeSin: maybe xD
20:13 UnitedWeSin: idk stuff likethis works nice in Hard imo http://puu.sh/60ToV.jpg
20:13 UnitedWeSin: 00:47:651 (5,6) - for these I felt a 1/4 slider would make a more comfortable jump
20:14 UnitedWeSin: 01:22:651 (5,6) -
20:14 UnitedWeSin: 01:22:859 (6,1) - that one is super big
20:15 UnitedWeSin: I guess spots where it can be a problem is when you have normal spacing and then double it after a few 1/4 notes
20:15 UnitedWeSin: more than double it
20:15 UnitedWeSin: it's a big jolt for a hard player
20:17 Hinsvar: Hmm, then what should I do? Make them look like what have you puush'd?
20:17 UnitedWeSin: no
20:18 Hinsvar: lol okay, I guess I somewhat misunderstood it.
20:19 Hinsvar: Let me play with these patterns for a bit.
20:19 UnitedWeSin: ah sorry I was just thinking
20:20 UnitedWeSin: I don't want you to change patterns much here tbh
20:20 UnitedWeSin: maybe you can try to use this pattern 02:15:567 (1,2,1) - a bit more
20:21 UnitedWeSin: and maybe you can try a slider instead of these 01:22:651 (5,6) -
20:22 UnitedWeSin: maybe delete 00:47:859 (6) -
20:25 Hinsvar: Hmm, wait, I'm still fiddling with the placement here

20:27 UnitedWeSin: have you tried ar7 here?
20:27 UnitedWeSin: some patterns read better imo
20:28 UnitedWeSin: especially 05:17:233 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - xD
20:28 Hinsvar: Won't it break the difficulty curve? I'm kinda worried about that

20:28 Hinsvar: I wanted to try AR7, but yeah.
20:29 Hinsvar: Oh, and why should I delete 00:47:859 - ? o.o
20:32 UnitedWeSin: was just an idea to make the phrase easier since you did the same thing later on lol
20:32 Hinsvar: Ah, okay then, removed

20:32 UnitedWeSin: that's why I shouldn't do IRC mods because I randomly type everything that comes to mind lol
20:33 Hinsvar: Looks like we have the same problem in IRC mods

20:35 Hinsvar: AR7 seems to be more comfortable, yep.
20:35 Hinsvar: I'll switch the AR, then.
20:59 UnitedWeSin: tons of unsnapped things in Centuries and Insane btw
20:59 Hinsvar: Thanks

20:59 Hinsvar: ...Again?
20:59 UnitedWeSin: only questionable jump is 03:30:576 (5,6,1) -
20:59 Hinsvar: This is annoying orz
21:00 UnitedWeSin: put 6 closer to 1 orz
21:01 Hinsvar: (6) *was* close to (1), but I made it like that to emphasize the heavy instrument...
21:01 Hinsvar: Guess I'll make them stay near each other then lol
21:02 UnitedWeSin: well I think it's dangerous since 6-1 doesn't look like 1/4 spacing at all after 5-6
21:02 UnitedWeSin: maybe you can have another slider at 03:30:983 -
21:02 UnitedWeSin: then jump
21:03 UnitedWeSin: maybe -w-
21:03 UnitedWeSin: wrong chat woops
21:05 Hinsvar: I'll stay with the current rhythm; emphasizing the instrument at 03:30:775 - and the vocal at 03:31:191 - makes a nice variety rhythm-wise

21:05 Hinsvar: Fixed the spacing, though.
21:06 UnitedWeSin: cool yea Hard seems pretty good to me with AR7, I think it makes the last half way better
21:08 UnitedWeSin: 00:28:067 (1,2) - did you want 1.2x snap there?
21:08 Hinsvar: Whoops, fixed.
21:09 UnitedWeSin: just a few things in Insane if you want
21:12 Hinsvar: Yes?

21:12 UnitedWeSin: xD was waiting
21:12 Hinsvar: lol go ahead now
21:12 UnitedWeSin: 00:44:734 (1) - what about ctrl+G?
21:13 UnitedWeSin: more natural from 2-3 imo
21:13 UnitedWeSin: didn't really have to change 00:45:567 (2) - i thought
21:15 Hinsvar: Hmm, I
21:15 Hinsvar: I think it's more natural the current way.
21:15 Hinsvar: Since the flow at 00:43:901 (2,3,1) - keeps going downward.
21:16 Hinsvar: Feels a little bit too zig-zagged if I Ctrl+G'd (1).
21:16 UnitedWeSin: 02:51:400 (4) - I think you wanted NC here?
21:19 Hinsvar: Uh, no? I can't see any reason to NC that

21:19 UnitedWeSin: ah :O
21:19 UnitedWeSin: pause and change in music
21:19 UnitedWeSin: ok
21:20 UnitedWeSin: 05:00:566 (4) - I think you should break this slider up to follow drums
21:21 UnitedWeSin: since this jump 04:59:941 (2,3) - follows drums
21:21 UnitedWeSin: 05:00:462 -
21:21 UnitedWeSin: dam
21:21 UnitedWeSin: http://puu.sh/60PH6.jpg
21:21 UnitedWeSin: that
21:22 UnitedWeSin: I thought you could do something cool like make a square with 04:59:941 (2,3) -
21:22 UnitedWeSin: http://puu.sh/60WIa.jpg
21:22 UnitedWeSin: just felt like the 4 slider was lagging a bit
21:24 Hinsvar: Hmm, NC'd that (4) note.
21:24 Hinsvar: Uh, for 05:00:566.
21:24 Hinsvar: Can I use a slider first before the circle?
21:24 Hinsvar: I feel more comfortable that way.
21:25 UnitedWeSin: totally up to you yea
21:25 UnitedWeSin: I just thought clicking at 05:00:774 - was nice because there is a drum hit in the song
21:26 UnitedWeSin: I was sure you'd like that square idea :\
21:26 UnitedWeSin: lol I need to play your maps more
21:29 Hinsvar: Nah, I think that's not going to be nice for the flow, so maybe no

21:29 UnitedWeSin: http://puu.sh/60X3a.jpg :3
21:29 UnitedWeSin: naw it's fine

21:30 Hinsvar: lol why do you think so
21:31 UnitedWeSin: 05:08:066 - i think 40% is too low maybe 60%?
21:33 Hinsvar: I think it's not that intense here... lol
21:33 Hinsvar: But yep, 40 might be too low.
21:33 Hinsvar: 50 should do, I think.
21:33 UnitedWeSin: it's 60 in other diffs
21:33 *UnitedWeSin runs
21:34 UnitedWeSin: also at 05:11:399 - maybe you'd want to go lower
21:34 UnitedWeSin: since music gets a bit softer
21:34 UnitedWeSin: up to you
21:34 Hinsvar: I love my inconsistent brain, yeah.
21:34 Hinsvar: Okay, will do.
21:35 UnitedWeSin: I love the diff

21:35 UnitedWeSin: only thing I didn't really like was the pine tree tbh
21:35 UnitedWeSin: it has weird flow imo
21:36 UnitedWeSin: heart slider would be nicer
21:36 UnitedWeSin: but that's my opinion so

We decided to go AR7 in the Hard since it fits the jumps better, especially in the second half.

Call me back when you're ready.

Hinsvar

osu! Alumni

3,789 posts

Joined December 2011

Topic Starter

Hinsvar 2013-12-28T05:02:41+00:00

~~My body is ready, sir.~~

Updated like what I've said in-game.

Thanks for everything!

EDIT: lol thanks (again) for the bubble.

Last edited by Hinsvar 2014-01-01T02:41:51+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

UnitedWeSin

889 posts

Joined July 2012

UnitedWeSin 2014-01-01T02:40:54+00:00

Log

19:10 UnitedWeSin: hey ^^
19:10 UnitedWeSin: you free?
19:11 Hinsvar: Hey

19:11 Hinsvar: Yes.
19:11 UnitedWeSin: \o/
19:11 Hinsvar: \o/
19:12 *UnitedWeSin is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/332242 BoA - Winter Love [Centuries]]
19:13 UnitedWeSin: 01:30:567 (2) - snapped weirdly
19:13 Hinsvar: Whoops.
19:13 Hinsvar: Fixed.
19:14 *UnitedWeSin is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/329565 BoA - Winter Love [Everlasting]]
19:14 UnitedWeSin: 00:14:630 (2) - this doesn't work
19:14 UnitedWeSin: rhythm is too weird there, it's not mappable imo
19:15 UnitedWeSin: maybe you can do http://puu.sh/65aRo.jpg
19:15 UnitedWeSin: or http://puu.sh/65aRX.jpg
19:15 UnitedWeSin: http://puu.sh/65aSi.jpg
19:15 UnitedWeSin: I forgot to mention last time orz
19:16 UnitedWeSin: piano doesn't follow the metronome there
19:22 UnitedWeSin: take your time, I'll get some coffee
19:22 UnitedWeSin: that's all btw
19:23 Hinsvar: Okay then.
19:29 Hinsvar: Updated

Just a few more things in IRC.

Seems good to go.

HabiHolic

5,372 posts

Joined October 2012

HabiHolic 2014-01-01T09:08:19+00:00

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Oyatsu

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Joined December 2012

Oyatsu 2014-01-01T09:17:53+00:00

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Swayzo_old

78 posts

Joined April 2013

Swayzo_old 2014-01-12T05:53:52+00:00

Hi, I like your map. I'm going to mod it.

Standard:

SPOILER

00:15:053 (2,3) change so it goes like this:

01:07:594 (1,2) change to curved sliders that are 3 beats long
01:49:107 ^
00:33:053 add slider 1/2 beat long
00:39:053 curve and extend slider so it's 2 beats long

Hinely's Hyper:

SPOILER

(Maybe imply that this difficulty is a collab, it's not made by that person alone)
01:08:972 change the squiggly slider to make it more appealing to your eye
01:24:459 Mirror slider 1 @ 01:23:162 and reverse
00:27:216 Make the transition from 4 to 1 more appealing to eyes

Another:

SPOILER

00:41:648 Change spinners to slow sliders, it doesn't go along with the song.
01:23:162 ^
01:35:162 (1-6) Doesn't play very well and is not appealing to eyes
02:03:378 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6) ^
01:43:594 (3,4) Doesn't play well

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