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Sakura

DakeDekaane wrote:

I bet there's scum in Royston wagon if he's town.

inb4 omg that's so obvious
So your doubting Royston's towniness yet you think there's scum on his wagon?, if you're doubting royston's towniness and he's town it's more likely that scum is standing by watching town mislynch on their own.
DakeDekaane
Indeed I'm doubting Royston's towniness, I don't have the feeling of he being likely town, null so far.

I'd want to read what everybody think about him.
Raging Bull
Wow i forgot im inthis game. Give me time after work
Rantai
Well the only 2 majr things I saw from Royston was a misread and a joke rvs vote on a confirmed town (I already gave my opinion on that matter).

Unless I missed something else I don't really think I see him as either or at the moment.
Rantai
major*
Kytoxid
Hey all. Reading the thread, here's what I got. Lemme know if I misunderstood/missed anything.

- Page 3: Quotes is mod-confirmed town. (and a rather unremarkable Saki character)
- Page 4: Rantai gets wagoned early. Not sure why.
- Page 5: Royston votes Quotes, gets some flak for voting confirmed town. Probably just an honest mistake, not sure why anyone would do that otherwise.

Rantai wrote:

Actually just to spite you I'm just going to try rp for as long as I can keep it up.
- This bugged me, I can't see this benefiting the town at all?
- Page 6-7: And then he starts posting stuff actually in RP. Bah, I can't understand it at all.

Irreversible wrote:

I'll try to catch things up, my post will come in a few hours for sure, sorry for inactiity
- Page 9: Rantai starts to form a bit more coherent arguments, albeit under spoiler tags. A bunch of meta arguments I don't get since I haven't played Mafia with you guys. Irreversible also shows up for a sec, but his promised post doesn't. Sakura is around but seems content to watch the CB-vs-Rantai dance.
- Page 10-12: Suddenly no one is voting Rantai anymore. No real progress happens.

Honestly, the gut feel I get is that we've spent most of our time watching two townies rip into each other, and now no one has any idea what to do, and we've spent 3 pages slowly running in circles. We need a direction to go.

I want to see what Ono and Irreversible are up to. Irreversible is the "more inactive" one, so Mod: Can we prod Irreversible?.

Ono has been around though, just not posting anything helpful: http://puu.sh/4Wdip.png.

Unvote
Vote: OnosakiHito

Ono, I know you're new here like me, but I feel like we need voices, opinions, and analysis as much as we need to put pressure on people. Right now there really isn't anything happening to shape the town's opinion, and you can see that reflected in the vote count, and how everyone is just randomly running around. If you could lynch anyone based on the posts so far, who would you lynch and why?

CalignoBot wrote:

Free cookie to anyone who can guess what the problem with his ISO is.
If you see something, please let us know what it is. Also, noob question: What's ISO?
Amianki

Kytoxid wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

Free cookie to anyone who can guess what the problem with his ISO is.
If you see something, please let us know what it is. Also, noob question: What's ISO?
ISO = Isolation; literally just one person's posts in isolation

I believe people are more likely to believe my point if they find out for themselves. I'll only reveal it if no one guesses it right.
Topic Starter
pieguyn
Irreversible has been prodded
Raging Bull
There's nothing significant about my ISO, unless that is what you meant (haha).

Pretty late since I never noticed. To CalingoBot

CalignoBot wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@ Calingo, you can't really say that just because Rantai has same style like you as scum that Rantai is scum.
Why exactly can't I do this?

Raging Bull wrote:

You also can't seem to back it up with anything since you even said we cannot prove or disprove it.
That doesn't invalidate the reason for using it in the first place.
Because your playing style as scum does not mean his playing style as scum.

And you realize at the same time, it doesn't validate the reason for thinking he's scum.


And why did you even get off Rantai case? Has he done anything to you that feel like unvoting for? Or perhaps you are just unvoting now since people just aren't jumping on Rantai bandwagon as you hoped it would.
Irreversible
Sorry, that's the last time I get prodded, i'm sorry but school started and orz

Unvote

i got some thoughts tho

Sakura, in other games you're always really scumhunting, but not in this game. and i mean.. you were the one who even taught me scumhunting so.. :/

then dake's post:

DakeDekaane wrote:

I bet there's scum in Royston wagon if he's town.

inb4 omg that's so obvious
Uhm yes, i don't really get if this is meant ironic or not.. maybe you just said it, without voting him to pretend looking scummy and put the suspiciousness (?) on the others, and this is what currently buggs me the most

Vote: DakeDekaane
DakeDekaane
So people just parking their votes and probably disappearing until the lynch isn't suspicious for you? Doesn't that look familiar to you? :P
Topic Starter
pieguyn
Votecount 1.9

Royston (2) - Sakura, Nyquill
CalignoBot (1) - DakeDekaane
Raging Bull (1) - CalignoBot
OnosakiHito (1) - Kytoxid
DakeDekaane (1) - Irreversible

Not voting - NoHItter, OnosakiHito, Raging Bull, Rantai, Royston Quotes

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is in 6:36.
Kytoxid
Mod: Irreversible has voted for DakeDekaane.

Ugh, this inactiveness. I come back and find that basically nothing useful has been posted, and we're just as scattered as before.

Irreversible wrote:

Sakura, in other games you're always really scumhunting, but not in this game. and i mean.. you were the one who even taught me scumhunting so.. :/
So you think Sakura is scum?

To be honest, there isn't enough discussion happening at all and just looking at the votecount, I can tell we're basically doing a random lynch D1. I'm okay with a Royston lynch, but I would prefer if we lynched someone inactive, or this is going to just get progressively worse in terms of people being inactive, so I'm keeping my vote on Ono.

I've got midterms early tomorrow, so I'm heading to bed.
Royston
also I'm currently not voting for anyone, I unvoted Quotes ages ago

Great, I'm going to get lynched by two inactive players and their parked votes. Bloody fantastic.

Caligno: I thought you were going to provide the reason RB's ISO was suspicious if nobody guessed it? There isn't much time left

Irreversible: Why'd you vote for Dake over Sakura?

Why hasn't Quotes been posting more? Since he's the only confirmed town he's probably gonna be nightkilled and he hasn't said anything at all recently
Topic Starter
pieguyn
sry, fixed

deadline is in 5:22
Amianki

Raging Bull wrote:

There's nothing significant about my ISO, unless that is what you meant (haha).
You're getting closer. Add one more significant detail and it becomes scummy.

Pretty late since I never noticed. To CalingoBot

CalignoBot wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

@ Calingo, you can't really say that just because Rantai has same style like you as scum that Rantai is scum.
Why exactly can't I do this?

Raging Bull wrote:

You also can't seem to back it up with anything since you even said we cannot prove or disprove it.
That doesn't invalidate the reason for using it in the first place.
Because your playing style as scum does not mean his playing style as scum.

And you realize at the same time, it doesn't validate the reason for thinking he's scum.

#1: That logic doesn't really work. I use that logic train because I understand why scum would do those actions. If someone else does those actions, I see it more likely coming from mafia than town (this is pretty much the basis of at least 95% if not ALL scumhunting). You're basically arguing here that I can't use this train of logic because I don't know what he's thinking.

#2: Two questions. 1. Why would my reasoning need to be validated? 2. Why would it need to be proved to be valid?

Raging Bull wrote:

And why did you even get off Rantai case? Has he done anything to you that feel like unvoting for? Or perhaps you are just unvoting now since people just aren't jumping on Rantai bandwagon as you hoped it would.
Neither.
My read on Rantai has not decreased. Rather, my read on you has escalated beyond it.
Amianki
That entire spoilbox should be in a quote tag.
Rantai
You know I'm not so keen on a Royston vote. I'd rather be lynching Ono simply for the fact that he was flying low during the earlier posts.

Vote: Ono

Also Caligno never answered my question.
Amianki
Which question? I probably missed or forgot about it.
Royston
Well, not much else I can do at this point.

Vote: OnosakiHito
DakeDekaane
So you will sacrifice another person? I'm sure that's not too townie imo, do you have any reasons besides he hasn't aported anything?
You can share your reads too, claiming, dunno :u
Rantai

CalignoBot wrote:

Which question? I probably missed or forgot about it.

Rantai wrote:

Which post did you try to clear it up?

Feels like to let it just run for whatever reason instead of clarifying (well, depends on where you tried to clear it up obviously).
I saw one post regarding it but want to check what you say first.
Royston

DakeDekaane wrote:

So you will sacrifice another person?
Yup, I'm an ass like that. Seriously though my read on Ono is null, but as they hasn't posted anything in 5 days I don't see them as an asset to town
Topic Starter
pieguyn
Votecount 1.10

OnosakiHito (3) - Kytoxid, Rantai, Royston
Royston (2) - Sakura, Nyquill
CalignoBot (1) - DakeDekaane
Raging Bull (1) - CalignoBot
DakeDekaane (1) - Irreversible

Not voting - NoHItter, OnosakiHito, Raging Bull, Quotes

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is in 0:28.
Topic Starter
pieguyn
ROUND 1
GAME 4/10

Kytoxid, Rantai, and Royston got paired against OnosakiHito. They were exchanging blows back and forth throughout the whole hanchan, but around the South 2 mark they immediately noticed something is wrong.

"I can't see anything at all", Kytoxid thought.
"does it seem like there's mist floating around", Rantai remarked?
"hey that's odd, I felt the same sort of thing", Royston said.

OnosakiHito started going on a dealer streak as Royston started to feel more and more lost. especially it got to the point where Royston felt so lost he could starve to death before finding his way out. Then he drew his hand and ended up being 6 shanten, while OnosakiHito declared riichi on the 3rd turn.

9 turns later, Royston was still 6 shanten. He hadn't got a single useful tile all hand. Knowing something was terribly off, eventually he just snapped and flipped the automatic table over on top of OnosakiHito.

Of course everyone immediately came rushing in to see what the hell happened, but upon searching OnosakiHito they found a really suspicious looking note containing instructions on how to play each hand such that she'd win faster. what the hell?!

OnosakiHito (Takakamo Shizuno) - Mafia Disabler - lynched D1

it is now N1. The deadline is 10/24, 06:00 GMT (23:00 from now).
Topic Starter
pieguyn
Resolving night actions
Topic Starter
pieguyn
Everyone woke up knowing Round 1 was over. They quickly went to check the leaderboards to see who all was remaining only to see

Takei Hisa - DISQUALIFIED

This seemed oddly familiar. Everyone assumed she left, but some knew better and went off looking for her. Just when people started telling them they were wrong and she had left, Hisa herself came walking out

"oo? what's this?"
"...WHAT"

Naturally knowing Hisa some ass kicking occurred, but despite all her hard efforts and her experience as student congress president, she wasn't able to get her disqualification revoked.

Kytoxid (Takei Hisa) - Jack of all Trades - killed N1

It is D2. With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. The deadline is 10/29, 06:00 GMT (119:33 from now)
NoHitter
Mafia probably have a Ninja.
Also Dake, do you have a passive ability?
NoHitter
And I believe that Rantai is likely town, and to a less extent Royston.
A barely plurality lynch with three people on the wagon won't likely have any buses, but I can't count out Royston that much since he was the lynch candidate before Ono.
Royston

NoHitter wrote:

Mafia probably have a Ninja.
why's that?

Also what's a Disabler?
DakeDekaane
A Disabler is a Disabler, duh.

@NH: I do have a passive ability.
NoHitter
Well either Mafia Ninja targeted Kyto or Mafia didn't target anyone and Kyto was a victim of unlucky targeting.
DakeDekaane
If you are thinking the last because my answer, my ability has nothing to do in night.
NoHitter
I guess I can say it out now.
Kytoxid targeted Dake, but no one targeted Kytoxid, yet Kytokid died.
Raging Bull
I assume you saw kyto.
Raging Bull
I will say my ability is day only and active
Sakura

NoHitter wrote:

I guess I can say it out now.
Kytoxid targeted Dake, but no one targeted Kytoxid, yet Kytokid died.
Wait you're a Watcher+Tracker?

@Royston: A disabler is a role that disables your active and passive abilities for 1 day and night phase.
Royston
Okay, thanks. I couldn't find it in the wiki.

Also wut three people have softclaimed now for some reason?
Rantai

NoHitter wrote:

I guess I can say it out now.
Kytoxid targeted Dake, but no one targeted Kytoxid, yet Kytokid died.
Possible hider behind a scum?

Though it doesn't explain the lack of second death.
Sakura
kyto flipped JOAT tho
Amianki
Interesting.

Vote: Raging Bull
NoHitter

Sakura wrote:

Wait you're a Watcher+Tracker?
Not quite. I don't want to disclose my full role yet though.
Rantai
Oh that's right, JOAT doesn't include hider, that was dumb of me.

For some reason I got it in my head that they did =.=
Raging Bull

Royston wrote:

Okay, thanks. I couldn't find it in the wiki.

Also wut three people have softclaimed now for some reason?
Yeah god damn that was stupid of me. I wanted to get calingo off my back since he wouldnt explain his vote. But I made myself more sus picious to him.


Was kyto on anyone d1 that may have wanted him dead?
Sakura
With people softclaiming i was like "Am i like the only VT here?" then it happens I forgot i had abilities... wow.
Raging Bull
Little bit suspicious of DD since it looked like he was trying to defend Ono without being too involved. p/2642650
Quotes_old
My role is so boring everyone already knows i'm town :(

@raging bull, what were your thoughts regarding ono before the lynch?
Raging Bull
Null scum.

New guy tends to be inactive since they don't know game mechanics too well. But at the same time, they should try to get involved yet Ono didn't seem like being involved that much. He didn't post anything productive and only seem like posts enough to put a prod dodge.
Topic Starter
pieguyn
Votecount 2.1

Raging Bull (1) - CalignoBot

Not voting - DakeDekaane, Irreversible, NoHItter, Nyquill, Raging Bull, Rantai, Royston, Quotes, Sakura

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is in 100:09.
Rantai
Vote: Caligno

Still dodging.

Also what happened to Nyquill?
DakeDekaane

Raging Bull wrote:

Little bit suspicious of DD since it looked like he was trying to defend Ono without being too involved. p/2642650
I think you'd do the same when a person votes another just to save his ass from being lynched.

We can do this as well.

Vote: Nyquill
Nyquill
I swear I will read and post tommorow
Raging Bull
What?So basically you were on the entire time and just waiting until you get voted on?
Nyquill
No... My exams finished yesterday
Nyquill
NoHitter: What doubts do you still have about royston? I'd say he's pretty town after that flip considering he was the tip vote.
NoHitter
This is conjecture but what if Royston was scum and had a better role than Disabler.
He could have no choice but voted Ono in order to prevent himself and the better role from being lynched.

Although at the moment, I still view him as leaning town.
Sakura
@Mod: V/LA Until Monday
Quotes_old
@irreversible where you at? And what are your thoughts on this game? I don't know who you think is scum and would very much like to see where your line of thinking is taking you!
Raging Bull
Nyquill, it would have been nice to at least bold the message.

Only thing I can find is Kyto started questioning Irreversible, but I think Irre is town. Perhaps mafia just wanted to kill Kyto and make us get Irre.

Despite how stupid it was, Sakura seemed rather interested in Rantai lynch. Perhaps using the opportunity?
Nyquill
I think sakura's case on Rantai was substantiated enough, at any rate,

CalignoBot wrote:

Nah, that's a Sakura-tell.
Amianki
Oh, right. I'm... kind of behind.

I'll work on that today or tomorrow.
Rantai
V/LA for 1 day It's my birthday, going to be out.
Topic Starter
pieguyn
Sakura & Rantai: noted. happy birthday Rantai :3

Votecount 2.2

Raging Bull (1) - CalignoBot
CalignoBot (1) - Rantai
Nyquill (1) - DakeDekaane

Not voting - Irreversible, NoHItter, Nyquill, Raging Bull, Royston, Quotes, Sakura

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is 10/29, 06:00 GMT (73:28 from now).

V/LA: Sakura 10/28, Rantai 10/26
Royston
hi guys
NoHitter
OK let's try this:

1-shot?

Those who get this please say so.
Amianki

NoHitter wrote:

OK let's try this:

1-shot?

Those who get this please say so.
Nein.
Nyquill
Obligatory Happy Birthday

NoHitter wrote:

OK let's try this:

1-shot?

Those who get this please say so.
You didn't do something did you.
DakeDekaane
Unvote
Vote: RB

Gut feeling.
Raging Bull

NoHitter wrote:

OK let's try this:

1-shot?

Those who get this please say so.
Nope.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Unvote
Vote: RB

Gut feeling.

Hi
Irreversible
Can I ask for a replacement?

sorry guys but i can't hold up 3 games :( and i couldn't really read anything here o.e..
Topic Starter
pieguyn
Votecount 2.3

Raging Bull (2) - CalignoBot, DakeDekaane
CalignoBot (1) - Rantai

Not voting - Irreversible, NoHItter, Nyquill, Raging Bull, Royston, Quotes, Sakura

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is 10/29, 06:00 GMT (52:37 from now).

V/LA: Sakura 10/28, Rantai 10/26

looking for a replacement for Irreversible
Rantai
K back.

Did not get that Hitter.
DakeDekaane

Raging Bull wrote:

DakeDekaane wrote:

Unvote
Vote: RB

Gut feeling.

Hi
Did I got it right?
Raging Bull
No. Nice try.

booo, where is CalingoBot. I still like to know what he found on my ISO that is just oh so worth a vote on me.
Raging Bull
Vote:Nyquill
Quotes_old
I'm sorry it's hard to get into a game where I'm already confirmed town and no one is really posting much :/
Topic Starter
pieguyn
Votecount 2.4

Raging Bull (2) - CalignoBot, DakeDekaane
CalignoBot (1) - Rantai
Nyquill (1) - Raging Bull

Not voting - Irreversible, NoHItter, Nyquill, Royston, Quotes, Sakura

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is 10/29, 06:00 GMT (33:05 from now).

V/LA: Sakura 10/28
Rantai
So what exactly were you trying to achieve with that question Hitter?
DakeDekaane
Come on Nyquill, I'm waiting for what you have to say, don't make me wait more pls.
RB, who is scum then?
Nyquill
I'm waiting for NH to explain what his intentions were, unless of course he doesn't intend to and just leave us wondering here.
Topic Starter
pieguyn
Votecount 2.5

Raging Bull (2) - CalignoBot, DakeDekaane
CalignoBot (1) - Rantai
Nyquill (1) - Raging Bull

Not voting - Irreversible, NoHItter, Nyquill, Royston, Quotes, Sakura

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is 10/29, 06:00 GMT (22:41 from now).

V/LA: Sakura 10/28
Raging Bull
Now I know how Royston felt when getting voted for and someone is afk.



@DD, I say Nyquill, NH, and to a lesser extent, you.

I think CalingoBot is afk just trying his best to scum hunt but I don't know what is so good about my ISO.
Sakura
Vote: Raging Bully

I like this wagon.
NoHitter
My question was a hunch to see if we can get confirmed people, but I guess it didn't quite work.
Topic Starter
pieguyn
Votecount 2.6

Raging Bull (3) - CalignoBot, DakeDekaane, Sakura
CalignoBot (1) - Rantai
Nyquill (1) - Raging Bull

Not voting - Irreversible, NoHItter, Nyquill, Royston, Quotes

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Deadline is 10/29, 06:00 GMT (6:20 from now).
Raging Bull
Oh dear. Personally i think its best if town were to keep me till near the end because of my ability
Topic Starter
pieguyn
ROUND 1
GAME 10/10

It seemed the main focus on this game was Ryuumonbuchi Touka being paired with Haramura Nodoka. Haramura Nodoka had been having an oddly bad tournament, as her advancement wasn't determined yet. She needed to place anywhere but last in order to advance.

"It's the long awaited rematch! Will Touka finally defeat her destined rival, or will Nodoka once again demonstrate she is the best?" the announcers kept saying

"Hmph, it's all so pointless. I will make it clear night and day who the true idol is between us!", Touka thought to herself.

Nodoka took an early lead, winning 3 times in a row with just cheap hands. Then something changed. Touka began to look half-asleep and somewhat drunk, swaying back and forth slightly. The other two players, even though they were looking at Nodoka, could sense some evil force suddenly appear.

Nodoka, on the other hand, didn't sense anything. She declared a dealer riichi without pausing on the 5th turn, but the other two players could tell something was off.

Four turns later, Nodoka discarded the 1 pin, and-

"RON"

"e? did I mess up?", Nodoka started thinking.
Touka's hand fell down three tiles at a time. first one set of matching tiles, then another, then another...
"IMPOSSIBLE"
then another, with a 1 pin left over...

"Suu ankou. 32000."
all Nodoka could do was cry out in disbelief.

The crowd started cheering as Nodoka was knocked out instantly, placing her out of the running. Touka fainted immediately after the game was over and then lost on the second day.

She didn't even care.

Raging Bull (Haramura Nodoka) - Doublevoter - lynched D2

Royston has successfully lynched his target and has won the game. He will be removed from the game and the game will continue.
Royston (Ryuumonbuchi Touka) - Lyncher - won D2

It is now N2. The deadline is 10/30 06:00 GMT (23:48 from now).
Royston
man I didn't even have to do anything
Raging Bull
ahahahahaha. Death by work.
Topic Starter
pieguyn
resolving night actions
Topic Starter
pieguyn
Everyone woke up for the second round. And when I say everyone, I mean literally everyone. It appears no one has been randomly disqualified like before.

Nobody died N2.

It is now D3. With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is 11/4, 06:00 GMT (119:47 from now)
Rantai
Guess it's time to claim seeing as I know exactly what happened last night.

Claim: Onjouji Toki

I am a 1-2 shot deathproof. I can see 1 turn into the future where I can prevent a death, I can also push myself to get a second prevention but I lose my secondary ability due to exhaustion (which I feel should be kept hidden from scum).

I have lost my first charge of deathproof as a result of being targeted last night.
DakeDekaane

Rantai wrote:

WIFOM
Sakura
Can someone with flavor knowledge confirm whether that fits?
DakeDekaane
The ability to see the future fits.
Nyquill
specifically the 1-turn part, it fits
Nyquill
scratch that, all of the flavor fits.

Where is calignobot? Also that irre replacement could do well to come sooner.
Sakura
Ok thanks.
Rantai
Oh yeah;

Vote: Caligno

Continuation of before.

And I'm trying to figure out why Sakura tacked on a useless vote on RB's wagon without any explanation whatsoever.
Sakura

Rantai wrote:

And I'm trying to figure out why Sakura tacked on a useless vote on RB's wagon without any explanation whatsoever.
He was voting Nyquill.
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