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I really still think konei is a bad D1 vote for the reason I already stated (no one addressed that reason either).
Lincolm's inactivity also worries me, since he's generally much more active than this.
Actually, might be a good opportunity.
Lincolm, when you get back, can you tell me how you feel about the current votes?
Lincolm's inactivity also worries me, since he's generally much more active than this.
Actually, might be a good opportunity.
Lincolm, when you get back, can you tell me how you feel about the current votes?
I'm going to skim the entire thread from page 4 going forward in order to get into the game a little more because for D1, this is really deep.
If you mean earlier at the beginning of the game where he was trying to do a reaction test on her, personally, I think it's Konei doing a really bad job at playing 'hard'. Sakura has her own things up her sleeve but as been noted before, she's just playing aggressively in order to find scum slip-ups. Scum wouldn't reveal themselves easily which leads me to my next couple of assumptions:Raging Bull wrote:
@those/Hika What do you guys think about Konei's vote on Sakura and explanations?
I am completely sure that Sakura is town and the same goes for Konei.
On the other hand, my FoS is on Irre and Revenger. It upsets me because Revenger doesn't post enough logical justification and doesn't seem to be taking the game seriously. I think it's better if he's lynched because he's not doing town or mafia any good by just sitting there, ignoring the questions he's been asked and/or answering them illogically/ignoring them. Irre is just acting like everything is a personal attack to him and it shouldn't be taken in such a way, especially when everyone (except scum) should be insecure anyway because they don't know their allies.
These are my opinions from what happened earlier in D1, since I'm actually sitting in front of a computer while posting this:
Null: Tsukasa, Mr Color, Lincolm (leaning town), Dake, tiper (leaning scum), those, Nyquill, BRBP
Scum: Irre (?), Revenger (?)
Town: Sakura (confirmed), farto, Konei, Raging Bull
Currently, I will leave my vote on Revenger because truthfully, no one else catches my suspicion so far (excluding Irre but he hasn't posted for a couple of hours or so). I agree with Sakura, no one should hammer until Konei can make his last defense post.
wait no this is not okay Unvote
and if we both townie?and ok you lynch us and what then?maybe should think more to future cuz now its only about me and konei and the real scum sits and laughs ,yeah you can lynch me for unproductivity but there are still some people that hasnt said much so my sentence should concern them as well, no?
Some things before going sleep.
@Hika & Nyquill: Why you think Konei is town?
Revenger is likely a townie who wants to be killed/attention/play around. Scummy? Maybe, but looks like town as nobody is supporting their actions or have a buddy until now.
@those/Lincolm: Say something, don't want any of you just come and hammer Konei.
BRBP wrote:
inb4 you have a pro-town night ability that's going to waste now
He will kill you while you sleep. Maybe a joke~Tsukasa wrote:
what?
@Hika & Nyquill: Why you think Konei is town?
Revenger is likely a townie who wants to be killed/attention/play around. Scummy? Maybe, but looks like town as nobody is supporting their actions or have a buddy until now.
@those/Lincolm: Say something, don't want any of you just come and hammer Konei.
Yeah,i am trying to play something and still understanding how this game really works.If i were scum i would leave what i said for myself and wouldn't write yet,at all.
^ thisDakeDekaane wrote:
@Hika & Nyquill: Why you think Konei is town?
And seriously, Revenger scum? I see absolutely nothing in his posts that state anything more than being an idiot, and he can be lynched for it in next days instead.
Actually, not posting would most likely everyone point you as scum, so it is good to post. And I said how you are still suspicious to me but you have been posting slightly better. I understand that you are understand how this game works, but when someone questions you and you just say "Dunno" or ignore other stuff, then it gets really suspicious.ReVeNg3r wrote:
Yeah,i am trying to play something and still understanding how this game really works.If i were scum i would leave what i said for myself and wouldn't write yet,at all.
It is 23 hours since his last post lol, but Mod: Prod those
If you're both townie, great, you're both townie and you're both going to eventually get lynched or NK'd.ReVeNg3r wrote:
and if we both townie?and ok you lynch us and what then?maybe should think more to future cuz now its only about me and konei and the real scum sits and laughs ,yeah you can lynch me for unproductivity but there are still some people that hasnt said much so my sentence should concern them as well, no?
And seriously, has anyone noticed how Irre and Konei barely question each other? And by barely, I mean Irre has only questioned Konei once. It's bothering me but if I were to think about it, Irre could convince me that he is scum from just this one observation (and this is literally me trying not to consider the fact that they have shared avatars).
@Irre: how do you feel about what I've stated above?
I think Konei is town mainly because as what Lincolm has stated earlier in the game about me:DakeDekaane wrote:
@Hika & Nyquill: Why you think Konei is town?
Revenger is likely a townie who wants to be killed/attention/play around. Scummy? Maybe, but looks like town as nobody is supporting their actions or have a buddy until now.
can be applied to what Konei is doing, except for the fact that it probably wasn't intended because he stated that it was only a 'reaction check'. He's being a bit risky on his actions which seem to others as scum trying to look townie, but here, I just see him defending himself, although before, he stated that he had a reason for voting Sakura, then later saying that he didn't have a legit one, only to go back to saying that it was a reaction check. He really doesn't know what he's doing and I understand that, but voting him right now is too risky for me, because I'm still thrown off about his role after thinking things over again, which is why I'm going to have to single out my vote on Irre, though no one will follow along.Lincolm wrote:
Hika tried to make a discussion before, but it is completely risky if I take a look at his post. I don't think scum will make risky post like that.
Revenger really does seem town after looking back at a few of his posts in ISO, but that still doesn't remove my FoS on him.
You need to realize that what you said earlier:ReVeNg3r wrote:
Yeah,i am trying to play something and still understanding how this game really works.If i were scum i would leave what i said for myself and wouldn't write yet,at all.
was, AND still is, highly suspicious and you have no right to be surprised if people hop on you about it, because it's really scummy. Just saying for future reference that if you really were scum (which I still question), you shouldn't say anything like that but rather, keeping it to yourself if you want to stay hidden (at least I'd assume you'd do that). Sorry but my FoS is on you still.ReVeNg3r wrote:
Simply, if i don't post ,i won't evoke suspicions against me,don't you think so?
Vote: Irreversible
Well, if you'll read what I just posted, you'll understand what I mean when I think that Revenger is scum, though the suspicion is lightly drifting off of him. I'm mostly thinking about Irre at the moment and his connection with Konei in this thread.fartownik wrote:
And seriously, Revenger scum? I see absolutely nothing in his posts that state anything more than being an idiot, and he can be lynched for it in next days instead.
So you mean they both might be scum by this, right? Why not vote Konei then?Hika wrote:
And seriously, has anyone noticed how Irre and Konei barely question each other? And by barely, I mean Irre has only questioned Konei once. It's bothering me but if I were to think about it, Irre could convince me that he is scum from just this one observation (and this is literally me trying not to consider the fact that they have shared avatars).
Well Hika's defense for Konei's has been noted, I still have my doubts about Konei, but I may be tunneling on him too much, wouldn't want a quick hammer to happen tonight so for now.
Unvote
That will put him at L-3 and if he gets quick hammered then we can easily see who the 3 scum is. I'll take a look at Revenger's and Konei's ISOs again when I wake up and will vote based on what I find. Tiper's still rubbing me the wrong way btw, so is Irre.
Unvote
That will put him at L-3 and if he gets quick hammered then we can easily see who the 3 scum is. I'll take a look at Revenger's and Konei's ISOs again when I wake up and will vote based on what I find. Tiper's still rubbing me the wrong way btw, so is Irre.
@RB: i dont understand how i suspected you ???and if you have any questions then ask me i have no problem with you, yet.
@Hika:Yes, i learned from it.
@Hika:Yes, i learned from it.
Because I asked why you would vote for someone you think is town and you replied a dunno. And then Sakura pointed out something you wrote that was very suspicious.
Who do you think is town/scum? Give us your read.
Why did you vote for Nyquill earlier? Did something in his post stand out?
If you think someone is scum in Konei's vote count then who do you think it is?
Who do you think is town/scum? Give us your read.
Why did you vote for Nyquill earlier? Did something in his post stand out?
If you think someone is scum in Konei's vote count then who do you think it is?
I'm not going to say that it was a 'reaction test' (GG), but after reading about the first 15 or so pages, they both differ in reaction, such as Konei wouldn't take things as seriously as Irre and of course, psychologically, getting rather defensive could mean that he could perhaps be scum because he was targeted so quickly. Konei, on the other hand, didn't seem (as I recall) too alarmed when he was called out for being scum.fartownik wrote:
So you mean they both might be scum by this, right? Why not vote Konei then?
If it's not good enough of an answer, sorry, I can't really give you a better answer than this without thinking more about it.
After thinking a little, I say that one of the Sakura bandwagoners must go (Konei, Irre or tiper) or we will have too much wifoms in D2. It doesn't matter that much which one it will be since people already started to withdraw the votes from Konei.
But I'm unsure about taking my vote out of him as I don't trust neither Nyquill or Hika (yet), the main defenders of Konei. I'm gonna wait for what Lincolm has to say about this.
But I'm unsure about taking my vote out of him as I don't trust neither Nyquill or Hika (yet), the main defenders of Konei. I'm gonna wait for what Lincolm has to say about this.
Just read everything and I have to say that I'm still most suspicious on Revenger.
I mean; why shouldn't he want to get attention if he had nothing to hide? If he'd be a good townie,
he would be scum hunting. About Irre, I'm quite not sure. He doesn't really seem to know what to do like me either.
I mean; why shouldn't he want to get attention if he had nothing to hide? If he'd be a good townie,
he would be scum hunting. About Irre, I'm quite not sure. He doesn't really seem to know what to do like me either.
Oh, and I'd still like to know from tiper why he decided to vote Sakura as the third one in first place to reaction check?
It was quite risky.
It was quite risky.
He wants to start a discussion. But I still say he was rather suspicious. I say it rather worked out for him because the focus was on you and not on tiper too for bandwagoning on Sakura.Konei wrote:
Oh, and I'd still like to know from tiper why he decided to vote Sakura as the third one in first place to reaction check?
It was quite risky.
Just to clarify... I'll be gone tomorrow for some shiz. And I'm not sure about the day after. So whatevs.
Anyways. BRBP :V
Don't fprce me a name that I don't want.
Calling me a PR... :V
Anyways. BRBP :V
Don't fprce me a name that I don't want.
Calling me a PR... :V
Because PRs are the first thing scum wants to night kill.
Tsukass
lol RB.
Name was a figure of speech.
By name, I meant painting me as a PR.
And to be fair, someone else gave me that name. And that someone is the only one allowed to call me that >w>
Name was a figure of speech.
By name, I meant painting me as a PR.
And to be fair, someone else gave me that name. And that someone is the only one allowed to call me that >w>
heh i dont really have such a read,bit hard for newbie i guessRaging Bull wrote:
Who do you think is town/scum? Give us your read.
but if i really try to make it it would be kind of like
SPOILER
Nothing really special to say to them.probably town: Konei,fartownik,Hika,Tsukasa,DakeDekaane
probably scum: Irreversible, BRBP, tiper
no clue: Sakura,Nyquill,Raging Bull,those,Mr Color,Lincolm
probably scum: Irreversible, BRBP, tiper
no clue: Sakura,Nyquill,Raging Bull,those,Mr Color,Lincolm
btw, only i have that feeling that Sakura and fartownik are playing together?I still dont know if Sakura is town or just acting it really well :/ .
Given to my first theory he was the choosen one ,and i still dont believe he is town, and still think one of those "rednamed" is scum and i will stay behind that.Raging Bull wrote:
Why did you vote for Nyquill earlier? Did something in his post stand out?
After mentioning that someone is obviously scum on there, people changed their votes so its now discussable if there is one.Raging Bull wrote:
If you think someone is scum in Konei's vote count then who do you think it is?
The thing with revenger is that he could very well be either legit VI and come up with arguments that really aren't valid, or he's asked to play VI to turn the discussion around. It wouldn't be surprising especially since he started doing it relatively late into the first day. That could mean a potential sacrifice on scum side which is really unlikely at 12/3, but it's still something to consider.
Also I have no idea how you guys managed to get your own ideas about who is scum and who isn't. For me pretty much everyone is null at this point. Probably lack of experience, or lack of activity (heh), but still, damn.
Also I have no idea how you guys managed to get your own ideas about who is scum and who isn't. For me pretty much everyone is null at this point. Probably lack of experience, or lack of activity (heh), but still, damn.
tiper
What exactly makes you still think I'm scum?
Lol what kind of explanation is that?
Also I'm going sleep.
post those post!
Also I'm going sleep.
post those post!
tiper
fartownik wrote:
^ thisDakeDekaane wrote:
@Hika & Nyquill: Why you think Konei is town?
And seriously, Revenger scum? I see absolutely nothing in his posts that state anything more than being an idiot, and he can be lynched for it in next days instead.
Then I also stated my deductions and who I think is possibly scum right now.Nyquill wrote:
On day 1, there are 3 possible reasons why konei would vote sakura at that point in time.
1. She is scum and she wants to lynch a townie.
2. She is town and wants to reaction test her.
3. She is town and wants to lynch scum.
Basically, to me anyone who starts a vote by himself isn't worth voting out D1, since there is a 2/3 chance that he is doing something out of the best interests of town.
Now, from that, I have reason to believe at least ONE person on the konei wagon is scum.
Revenger is also a load of wifom, and honestly its better to get rid of wifom early so we don't have to deal with it later.
I need to look for Tsukasa's reasoning for tiper. Give me a bit.
Tsukasa thinks tiper is scum because of his odd behavior and his "if I was scum" statement earlier and eh, quite honestly I don't disagree.
It also seems that of most our collective deductions include tiper in one way or another.
To me its either him or revenger, so I guess since there are people still not willing to see Revenger go for whatever reason and no one has really any reason to keep tiper,
Vote: Tiper
And he also was one to throw a lot of questions that doesn't really lead anywhere, and that is a sign of scumplay to me.
Also wtf Lincolm is being really weird and actually not posting in a mafia game
Prod: Lincolm
It also seems that of most our collective deductions include tiper in one way or another.
To me its either him or revenger, so I guess since there are people still not willing to see Revenger go for whatever reason and no one has really any reason to keep tiper,
Vote: Tiper
And he also was one to throw a lot of questions that doesn't really lead anywhere, and that is a sign of scumplay to me.
Also wtf Lincolm is being really weird and actually not posting in a mafia game
Prod: Lincolm
Well, I will change my vote on tiper now.
I'll do this because his statement of "it works like you see" when he, Irre and me voted Sakura was suspicious to me.
Also he didn't answer to some of my questions what makes him even more suspicious.
unvote
vote: tiper
I'll do this because his statement of "it works like you see" when he, Irre and me voted Sakura was suspicious to me.
Also he didn't answer to some of my questions what makes him even more suspicious.
unvote
vote: tiper
also: tiper didnt really give a reason on why he thinks of me as scum although waht Hika wrote and said nothing changed.
It seems to me as if he was scum and wants to go with all the ones who voted me to get me out and attention away from himself.
It seems to me as if he was scum and wants to go with all the ones who voted me to get me out and attention away from himself.
God guys. You leaved me 20 pages to read. I forgot I had competition yesterday and today, I should not online. (And 2 days ago I slept late because I read in here dammit)
I'm reading now. Probably I need a time read this.
I'm reading now. Probably I need a time read this.
Okay, I'm back 
What exactly happend that you think we three are scum? (tiper, konei and me)
I'm just wondering, i wanna see reasons
What exactly happend that you think we three are scum? (tiper, konei and me)
I'm just wondering, i wanna see reasons
We three were marked as scums because we voted Sakura on the start.Irreversible wrote:
Okay, I'm back
What exactly happend that you think we three are scum? (tiper, konei and me)
I'm just wondering, i wanna see reasons
For me, I tried to explain the reaction test and the half-forgotten reason.
In my opinion, if I'm not wrong, your vote on Sakura was omgus, so I leave my vote on tiper.
Yeah, that WIFOM from tiper right as i accused all 3 still kinda rubs me the wrong way. The Konei wagon didn't lead to any scumslip or anything so I'm more inclined to believe his reasoning of just being newbie. I'm gonna see the current vote standings on the person I want to vote before I vote.
tiper
I quoted why I think you are scum. And now you voted me after Nyquill's vote. So, you want to get me B\Wed, I think.Konei wrote:
also: tiper didnt really give a reason on why he thinks of me as scum although waht Hika wrote and said nothing changed.
It seems to me as if he was scum and wants to go with all the ones who voted me to get me out and attention away from himself.
Still keeping my vote on you. This action assumed me that you are scum.
As I stated before; I was thinking the whole time that you were scummy. Revenger is suspicious, but not scummy at all and actingtiper wrote:
I quoted why I think you are scum. And now you voted me after Nyquill's vote. So, you want to get me B\Wed, I think.Konei wrote:
also: tiper didnt really give a reason on why he thinks of me as scum although waht Hika wrote and said nothing changed.
It seems to me as if he was scum and wants to go with all the ones who voted me to get me out and attention away from himself.
Still keeping my vote on you. This action assumed me that you are scum.
like he wouldn't care at all. I gave various reasons why I think that you are scum, and I'm still convinced that you are.
@tiper: Do you have any reasons behind Revenger as your scum suspect other than the OMGUS? Why Konei? the more he posts the more I think he's town, he's awfully relaxed for someone being put against the wall, continues scumhunting and hasn't thrown any AtE.
Another thing that bothers me about you is that you didn't question Hika's townread on Konei, nor her Scumread on you. I'll quote it for your convenience:
p/2308462
P-Edit:
Another thing that bothers me about you is that you didn't question Hika's townread on Konei, nor her Scumread on you. I'll quote it for your convenience:
p/2308462
Vote: TiperHika wrote:
Null: Tsukasa, Mr Color, Lincolm (leaning town), Dake, tiper (leaning scum), those, Nyquill, BRBP
Scum: Irre (?), Revenger (?)
Town: Sakura (confirmed), farto, Konei, Raging Bull
P-Edit:
This sentence makes no sense.Konei wrote:
Revenger is suspicious, but not scummy
I confused Revenger's name with Irreversible, Go me!, nevermind the first question.
tiper, stop being pissed, really,
i finally figured out myself why you think we three are scum
Unvote
Vote: Tiper
Please, i think not one of us three would be that silly that we really do that.
I voted tiper because he tries to denounce Konei, which just pretty tells me that you want to distract from yourself.
i finally figured out myself why you think we three are scum
Unvote
Vote: Tiper
Please, i think not one of us three would be that silly that we really do that.
I voted tiper because he tries to denounce Konei, which just pretty tells me that you want to distract from yourself.
Sakura wrote:
P-Edit:This sentence makes no sense.Konei wrote:
Revenger is suspicious, but not scummy
Yea xD
I wanted to say he acted strange by not posting to get no attention.
Since if he was town he would be scum hunting instead of hiding.
(with do that i mean vote 1 person at the same time, this would just be too obvious, even for a first time player)
Hika, he might be scum and changing his vote just to join the wagon innocently, which isn't working.4. She's (he's) scum and wants to reaction test her.Nyquill wrote:
On day 1, there are 3 possible reasons why konei would vote sakura at that point in time.
1. She is scum and she wants to lynch a townie.
2. She is town and wants to reaction test her.
3. She is town and wants to lynch scum.
Basically, to me anyone who starts a vote by himself isn't worth voting out D1, since there is a 2/3 chance that
Now, from that, I have reason to believe at least ONE person on the konei wagon is scum.
And we're 50/50, with heavy evidence and common thoughts. Also on risky situations like this, we can't rely on probably unless we're totally sure.
But:
Unvote
This tiper/Konei reminds me Irre/Sakura, but this may develop in a different way. But Konei changed after being caught, got used to the game? trying to look townie to get away all those FoS?
Scumslip? :3Konei wrote:
Revenger is suspicious, but not scummy at all
Posting from phone is haaard, but well
@DakeDekaane: I wanna know your thoughts about who's town / who's scum actually, because you're always writing very much text, but i can't really get some information about you :3
@DakeDekaane: I whonder why you ignore the tiper thingy here? Could it be that you two are scum buddies?
tiper
1)Ofc.Sakura wrote:
@tiper: Do you have any reasons behind Revenger as your scum suspect other than the OMGUS? Why Konei? the more he posts the more I think he's town, he's awfully relaxed for someone being put against the wall, continues scumhunting and hasn't thrown any AtE.
1a)His AtE(looks so):
and if we both townie?and ok you lynch us and what then?maybe should think more to future cuz now its only about me and konei and the real scum sits and laughs ,yeah you can lynch me for unproductivity but there are still some people that hasnt said much so my sentence should concern them as well, no?1b)
probably town: Konei,fartownik,Hika,Tsukasa,DakeDekaaneAnd he's still keeping his vote on Konei.
2) I think that he just waited till the Nyqill's vote and voted me. Exactly what scum must do when he got so many votes on himself.
First tiper, she told you to forget her first question because she mixed Irre and Revenger (if Im right)
Second: Hika doesn't have her vote on me, she has it on Irre.
I voted you because I found you suspicious the whole time and that didnt change. If not, tell me when I said I'm not thinking you are strange.
Second: Hika doesn't have her vote on me, she has it on Irre.
I voted you because I found you suspicious the whole time and that didnt change. If not, tell me when I said I'm not thinking you are strange.
Eh the AtE comment was about Konei (as in saying i haven't seen an AtE from Konei), tho thanks for reminding me of that post of Revenger and his reads, totally forgot about that contradiction. Would be nice if you could also link the posts themselves, would make it easier to go in and verify them.
Unvote
Will check the ammount of votes on Revenger before I vote him.
Unvote
Will check the ammount of votes on Revenger before I vote him.
@tiper: no,i changed my vote on Nyquill and now unvoted
tiper
tiper: I'm not sure whether you're misrepping Revenger on purpose or not, but he is not voting anyone atm, (or at least i think so, since he bolded "unvote")
that doesn't clear his other suspicious actions tho, nor his AtE.
that doesn't clear his other suspicious actions tho, nor his AtE.
Oh I see, Hika's looked the same.tiper wrote:
Oh god, I didn't see her second message, sorry. But I explained why I think that Revenger looks strange.Second: Hika doesn't have her vote on me, she has it on Irre.Are you talking about "1b"? This is Revenger's quote.
But Revenger doesnt have his vote on me either.
So Sakura, you are not feeling suspicious about tiper anymore? Why?Sakura wrote:
tiper: I'm not sure whether you're misrepping Revenger on purpose or not, but he is not voting anyone atm, (or at least i think so, since he bolded "unvote")
that doesn't clear his other suspicious actions tho, nor his AtE.
As you can see, I didn't ignore tiper in my last post, and all questions I wanted to do him (why he voted Sakura, why you, etc.) was already questioned before, as he wasn't saying anything outstanding, I couldn't ask anything else. I may vote for him, but my main FoS is still on you.Konei wrote:
@DakeDekaane: I whonder why you ignore the tiper thingy here? Could it be that you two are scum buddies?
So I write my condensed list:Irreversible wrote:
@DakeDekaane: I wanna know your thoughts about who's town / who's scum actually, because you're always writing very much text, but i can't really get some information about you :3
Town: Sakura, fartownik, Tsukasa.
Scum: Konei.
Null leaning scum: BRBP, those.
Null leaning town: Revenger, Raging Bull, Nyquill, Irreversible.
Null: Mr Color, Lincolm, Hika, tiper.
Still suspicious, but I need to check on whether I feel better placing my vote on him or Revenger, there's still a little bit of time left I think.Konei wrote:
So Sakura, you are not feeling suspicious about tiper anymore? Why?Sakura wrote:
tiper: I'm not sure whether you're misrepping Revenger on purpose or not, but he is not voting anyone atm, (or at least i think so, since he bolded "unvote")
that doesn't clear his other suspicious actions tho, nor his AtE.
tiper
I woke up about 30 minutes ago and am looking into this issue with tiper although I can't find a stance.
If anyone needs to question me, I'll be paying closer attention to the thread for the next hour or so.
Also,
@tiper/Konei/Irre: If you three haven't done so already (or if I am clearly blind), could you 3 tell me your possible picks for who may be scum/town and thoughts on each other?
I will explain my reasoning after I get my answers.
If anyone needs to question me, I'll be paying closer attention to the thread for the next hour or so.
Also,
@tiper/Konei/Irre: If you three haven't done so already (or if I am clearly blind), could you 3 tell me your possible picks for who may be scum/town and thoughts on each other?
I will explain my reasoning after I get my answers.
DD (So much shorter than DakeDekaane):
Is there any reason at present, while you still think that Konei is scum rather than newbtown? With quotes and post links (or just post links) please.
What makes you think those might be scum? other than his lack of activity that is a null tell at best imo.
What makes you think that Revenger and Irre are off the hook? Specially with that big AtE coming from Revenger.
P-Edit:
@Hika: What are your thoughts on Revenger's attitude and why? what are your thoughts on tiper's answers to my post in here: p/2309481
Is there any reason at present, while you still think that Konei is scum rather than newbtown? With quotes and post links (or just post links) please.
What makes you think those might be scum? other than his lack of activity that is a null tell at best imo.
What makes you think that Revenger and Irre are off the hook? Specially with that big AtE coming from Revenger.
P-Edit:
@Hika: What are your thoughts on Revenger's attitude and why? what are your thoughts on tiper's answers to my post in here: p/2309481
Well, I kinda have problems with ordering who's what..
I have my FoS on DakeDekaane, Lincolm, Sakura and tiper,
reasons: DakeDekaane: He always writes tons of text, but he never writes something about the scum itself - for example before: tiper was kinda asked out, but dake didn't talk about it, why not? maybe they are scum partners, idk
Sakura + Lincolm: well idk how it works, but they seem they want to know everything about everyone.. but i don't get what they really want, also they don't really talk about theirselves - it's confusing
but my current vote is on tiper, because we three (konei me and tiper) are supposed to be scum - because we voted sakura on the same time - but I really don0't think any of us would be so stupid that we would really do that.
So tiper tried to denounce Konei, i'm currently asking why, so my vote stays on tiper for now
I have my FoS on DakeDekaane, Lincolm, Sakura and tiper,
reasons: DakeDekaane: He always writes tons of text, but he never writes something about the scum itself - for example before: tiper was kinda asked out, but dake didn't talk about it, why not? maybe they are scum partners, idk
Sakura + Lincolm: well idk how it works, but they seem they want to know everything about everyone.. but i don't get what they really want, also they don't really talk about theirselves - it's confusing
but my current vote is on tiper, because we three (konei me and tiper) are supposed to be scum - because we voted sakura on the same time - but I really don0't think any of us would be so stupid that we would really do that.
So tiper tried to denounce Konei, i'm currently asking why, so my vote stays on tiper for now
tiper
Konei:tiper wrote:
My thoughts:
- Town: fanderwikfartownik, Sakura, Lincolm
- Scum: Konei, Revenger
- Null: BRBP, DakeDekaane, Hika, Irreversible(leaning scum), Mr Color, Nyquill, Raging Bull, Tsukasa, those
- I think his actions after he got some votes on himself were quite panicky. That's why I voted him. After that he voted me but after the Nyqill's vote.
tiper wrote:
I think that he just waited till the Nyqill's vote and voted me. Exactly what scum must do when he got so many votes on himself.
- I don't really think he's scum, but I'm still keeping in mind that his vote on Sakura looked strange.
I kinda find it odd that you're the only one finding me scum atm, If you are suspicious of me why aren't you asking me questions to clear me towards either scum or town?Irreversible wrote:
I have my FoS on DakeDekaane, Lincolm, Sakura and tiper,
You denounce him, because we all three voted Sakura at once - so this made us supicious, and now you're trying to get the 'scum' to Konei - this is what i'm currently thinking. Maybe i'll take back my vote, but not now
My FoS is on tiper, DakeDekaane and Revenger.
Why?
I already explained multiple times why tiper is suspicious to me, DakeDekaane is writing a lot about me being scum but I dont see him try to
counter the reasons that make me town; so I assume he tries to defend tiper this way.
Revenger is posting all those weird things, doesnt want to draw attention and does like no scum hunting.
For town; I'm pretty sure that Sakura and fartownik are town because likely all they do is scum hunting.
It could be that anyone of the ones I didnt mention is a scum instead of the ones I think are scums, but that's how I see it.
Why?
I already explained multiple times why tiper is suspicious to me, DakeDekaane is writing a lot about me being scum but I dont see him try to
counter the reasons that make me town; so I assume he tries to defend tiper this way.
Revenger is posting all those weird things, doesnt want to draw attention and does like no scum hunting.
For town; I'm pretty sure that Sakura and fartownik are town because likely all they do is scum hunting.
It could be that anyone of the ones I didnt mention is a scum instead of the ones I think are scums, but that's how I see it.
You might find it odd, but why? Are you annoyed that i'm thinking you're scum? If you aren't why are you worried? :3
Except if you are, of course xD
Except if you are, of course xD
Irre, why should Sakura try to find the scum if she was scum herself?
No I'm not worried, just find it odd that you've asked tons of questions and still can't discern my alingment, yet you aren't doing anything about it to discern it, considering I'm pretty active and can answer questions anytime.Irreversible wrote:
You might find it odd, but why? Are you annoyed that i'm thinking you're scum? If you aren't why are you worried? :3
Except if you are, of course xD
So since you aren't asking me questions I shall ask you a question then.
Why do you find me scummy enough to warrant a FoS?
Revenger, to me, took my attention as "he could possibly be newbie scum without realizing what he's doing" but the thing is, he's just a newbie to begin with so I though that maybe, I shouldn't keep my FoS on him any longer D1. My reasoning for this is because at first, he was annoying everyone with his illogical statements and such, but as the game progressed, he took it a little seriously so I don't think I should keep my FoS on him any longer.Sakura wrote:
@Hika: What are your thoughts on Revenger's attitude and why? what are your thoughts on tiper's answers to my post in here: p/2309481
Since I'm on my phone, I can't see the exact post that has been linked, only the page, so if it's not much trouble, could you quote? I'll give my answer after I analyze.
Thanks you three. My reasoning for asking this was because it's a confirmed 1/3 scum count and a possible 2/3 if I can get the right information. I will possibly analyze this after I start my daily routine.
Aside from this:Sakura wrote:
DD (So much shorter than DakeDekaane):
Is there any reason at present, while you still think that Konei is scum rather than newbtown? With quotes and post links (or just post links) please.
p/2309411
[quote=Konei]Revenger is suspicious, but not scummy at all and acting like he wouldn't care at all[/quote]
p/2307772
What did that mean?
Explain Konei.
Just posting some thoughts and voting a probably town that was somehow confirmed doesn't look townie imo.Sakura wrote:
What makes you think those might be scum? other than his lack of activity that is a null tell at best imo.
I said it before, Revenger either wants attention/play around/get killed. His appearance saved Konei at some point, so we can call him scum, but based in later actions it's obvious it can't be, we can't trust him, but at the same time, he isn't dangerous, we can deal with him later if he ends up harming town.Sakura wrote:
What makes you think that Revenger and Irre are off the hook? Specially with that big AtE coming from Revenger.
And about Irre I said it a long time ago, that OMGUS vote was enough to consider him town, for now.
@Irre: Am I not writing about the scum itself? Almost all of my posts talk about them. About tiper thing, I already answered Konei.
@tiper/Sakura: what actions from Revenger made you think he's scum?
@DD: Explained it here, lol t/132424/start=465
To act as if she was town. Mafia basics 101.Konei wrote:
Irre, why should Sakura try to find the scum if she was scum herself?
But wouldn't that mean she was going after her team?those wrote:
To act as if she was town. Mafia basics 101.Konei wrote:
Irre, why should Sakura try to find the scum if she was scum herself?
I think it's this: p/2309436
Not posting to not get attention is both suspicious and scummy, also he's not scumhunting, more scummy, why you think/know, he's not scummy. I'm basing this on your own words, makes no sense right? <:Konei wrote:
Yea xD
I wanted to say he acted strange by not posting to get no attention.
Since if he was town he would be scum hunting instead of hiding.
@Hika: Quoted here:
If Irre's scum then Konei's scum, and viceversa
Irre and tiper may be scum but not together.
Konei and tiper may be scum together.
If Revenger's scum then there's a high chance Konei's scum, considering he drew attention to himself when Konei was in trouble.
If anyone else is scum, then i got no idea who the other scum are.
I think tiper's lynch flip may answer some of our questions regarding alingments so.
@Mod: Vote Count please?
P-Edit: What's with the sudden WIFOM those?
Hmm ok, let's see. From all your statements.tiper wrote:
1)Ofc.Sakura wrote:
@tiper: Do you have any reasons behind Revenger as your scum suspect other than the OMGUS? Why Konei? the more he posts the more I think he's town, he's awfully relaxed for someone being put against the wall, continues scumhunting and hasn't thrown any AtE.
1a)His AtE(looks so):and if we both townie?and ok you lynch us and what then?maybe should think more to future cuz now its only about me and konei and the real scum sits and laughs ,yeah you can lynch me for unproductivity but there are still some people that hasnt said much so my sentence should concern them as well, no?1b)probably town: Konei,fartownik,Hika,Tsukasa,DakeDekaaneAnd he's still keeping his vote on Konei.
2) I think that he just waited till the Nyqill's vote and voted me. Exactly what scum must do when he got so many votes on himself.
If Irre's scum then Konei's scum, and viceversa
Irre and tiper may be scum but not together.
Konei and tiper may be scum together.
If Revenger's scum then there's a high chance Konei's scum, considering he drew attention to himself when Konei was in trouble.
If anyone else is scum, then i got no idea who the other scum are.
I think tiper's lynch flip may answer some of our questions regarding alingments so.
@Mod: Vote Count please?
P-Edit: What's with the sudden WIFOM those?
Since nothing can ever be proven day 1, all you have to do is make \better\ assumptions on certain people.Konei wrote:
But wouldn't that mean she was going after her team?
Did I discover your secret? :OSakura wrote:
What's with the sudden WIFOM those?
Nope, you just come outta nowhere and try to place suspicion on me, for what reason? are we getting to close to one of your partners?
Oh, now I get what you mean DakeDekaane.
I think Revenger is suspicious, if not I wouldnt have vote him.
Also he's in my list of being scum. The reason I voted viper back then
because Revenger can, if he really is scum, be eleminated later, but now I'm between tiper and Revenger with my vote.
I think Revenger is suspicious, if not I wouldnt have vote him.
Also he's in my list of being scum. The reason I voted viper back then
because Revenger can, if he really is scum, be eleminated later, but now I'm between tiper and Revenger with my vote.
Hey, you're getting unnecessarily defensive now. The statements aren't even directed at you, so...
do you mean me? If so, relax, I just answered DakeDekaane.
lol'd, it was just random time i posted i didnt really realized whats happening around.Sakura wrote:
If Revenger's scum then there's a high chance Konei's scum, considering he drew attention to himself when Konei was in trouble
Ok, I'm back
@Sakura:
I'm paying attention to you because oyu always act strangely defensive, don't you think so? That's why i have my FoS on you,
you try to scumhunt, to let the others think you're town, but this makes me think you aren't, that's the reason why you could be a high chance scum
@Sakura:
I'm paying attention to you because oyu always act strangely defensive, don't you think so? That's why i have my FoS on you,
you try to scumhunt, to let the others think you're town, but this makes me think you aren't, that's the reason why you could be a high chance scum
Yeah totally not trying to raise suspcions on methose wrote:
To act as if she was town. Mafia basics 101.Konei wrote:
Irre, why should Sakura try to find the scum if she was scum herself?
Back from whatever I needed to do.
Sounds to me that since tiper answered your question the way you asked it, which you said was a mistake, he didn't answer it as properly as you would have liked, which makes your question to me invalid unless you wanted me to analyze what he was saying about Revenger. As for referring to Konei, you are completely right, he does not AtE at all while being pushed into corner. Still, before everyone started to unvote, I realized that the chances Konei could be scum was lowered, basically because there were both scum on Revenger's and Konei's bandwagon.
Currently, I'd need to see an updated count in order to lay my final opinions.
The likelihood, however, cannot be considered until at least another day or two has passed. This goes for all PRs. It hasn't been stated in the OP the possible combinations but knowing that there are 15 of us playing, it's very much likely we have two to three PRs.
Sounds to me that since tiper answered your question the way you asked it, which you said was a mistake, he didn't answer it as properly as you would have liked, which makes your question to me invalid unless you wanted me to analyze what he was saying about Revenger. As for referring to Konei, you are completely right, he does not AtE at all while being pushed into corner. Still, before everyone started to unvote, I realized that the chances Konei could be scum was lowered, basically because there were both scum on Revenger's and Konei's bandwagon.
Currently, I'd need to see an updated count in order to lay my final opinions.
I'm not sure if you're drawing this all from my post but I think Konei isn't scum still by his reactions and from my reasonings in earlier posts, the same goes for Irre.Sakura wrote:
If Irre's scum then Konei's scum, and viceversa
This could be so because they're both constantly going at each other except I lean more at Irre being scum. The probability of this is 1/2, however.Sakura wrote:
Irre and tiper may be scum but not together.
This seems likely possible but since tiper is 'against' Konei and vice versa so far, this can't be too likely.Sakura wrote:
Konei and tiper may be scum together.
Sakura wrote:
If Revenger's scum then there's a high chance Konei's scum, considering he drew attention to himself when Konei was in trouble.
This could be a possibility but I've been trying really hard to keep deep WIFOM out of D1, mainly because no one, especially myself, has no leads unless someone amongst us is a cop.ReVeNg3r wrote:
lol'd, it was just random time i posted i didnt really realized whats happening around.Sakura wrote:
If Revenger's scum then there's a high chance Konei's scum, considering he drew attention to himself when Konei was in trouble
The likelihood, however, cannot be considered until at least another day or two has passed. This goes for all PRs. It hasn't been stated in the OP the possible combinations but knowing that there are 15 of us playing, it's very much likely we have two to three PRs.
Hika, i voted for tiper and said it like twice, i did never mention him before lol 'constantly' pls that's not true
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT:
Deadline is in ~30 hours.
Konei (4) - fartownik, tiper, Tsukasa, BRBP
tiper (3) - Nyquill, Konei, Irreversible
DakeDekaane (1) - Lincolm
Irreversible (1) - Hika
Revenger (1) - those
tiper (3) - Nyquill, Konei, Irreversible
DakeDekaane (1) - Lincolm
Irreversible (1) - Hika
Revenger (1) - those
Deadline is in ~30 hours.
Heh? Tsukasa didnt vote, am I right?
I could have possibly overexaggerated that, but you're still not on sides with him, or rather, on the good said with him. Still, my opinion doesn't change.Irreversible wrote:
Hika, i voted for tiper and said it like twice, i did never mention him before lol 'constantly' pls that's not true
And now that I know the vote count and realized that yes, no one will side with me on getting Irre lynched, I will move onto tiper and keep my opinions on Irre and Konei exactly the same as before.
Unvote
Vote: tiper
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