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League of Legends Mafia (GAME OVER - Blue Team Victory!)

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Konei
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Konei
Just read everything and I have to say that I'm still most suspicious on Revenger.
I mean; why shouldn't he want to get attention if he had nothing to hide? If he'd be a good townie,
he would be scum hunting. About Irre, I'm quite not sure. He doesn't really seem to know what to do like me either.
Konei
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Oh, and I'd still like to know from tiper why he decided to vote Sakura as the third one in first place to reaction check?
It was quite risky.
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
tiper would be someone I'll vote
VoidnOwO
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VoidnOwO
:)
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Raging Bull
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Konei wrote:

Oh, and I'd still like to know from tiper why he decided to vote Sakura as the third one in first place to reaction check?
It was quite risky.
He wants to start a discussion. But I still say he was rather suspicious. I say it rather worked out for him because the focus was on you and not on tiper too for bandwagoning on Sakura.
Tsukasa
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Just to clarify... I'll be gone tomorrow for some shiz. And I'm not sure about the day after. So whatevs.

Anyways. BRBP :V

Don't fprce me a name that I don't want.

Calling me a PR... :V
VoidnOwO
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:)
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Sakura
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Because PRs are the first thing scum wants to night kill.
Raging Bull
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Tsukass
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
lol RB.

Name was a figure of speech.

By name, I meant painting me as a PR.

And to be fair, someone else gave me that name. And that someone is the only one allowed to call me that >w>
ReVeNg3r
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Raging Bull wrote:

Who do you think is town/scum? Give us your read.
heh i dont really have such a read,bit hard for newbie i guess
but if i really try to make it it would be kind of like
SPOILER
probably town: Konei,fartownik,Hika,Tsukasa,DakeDekaane
probably scum: Irreversible, BRBP, tiper
no clue: Sakura,Nyquill,Raging Bull,those,Mr Color,Lincolm
Nothing really special to say to them.
btw, only i have that feeling that Sakura and fartownik are playing together?I still dont know if Sakura is town or just acting it really well :/ .

Raging Bull wrote:

Why did you vote for Nyquill earlier? Did something in his post stand out?
Given to my first theory he was the choosen one ,and i still dont believe he is town, and still think one of those "rednamed" is scum and i will stay behind that.


Raging Bull wrote:

If you think someone is scum in Konei's vote count then who do you think it is?
After mentioning that someone is obviously scum on there, people changed their votes so its now discussable if there is one.
Cyclohexane
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The thing with revenger is that he could very well be either legit VI and come up with arguments that really aren't valid, or he's asked to play VI to turn the discussion around. It wouldn't be surprising especially since he started doing it relatively late into the first day. That could mean a potential sacrifice on scum side which is really unlikely at 12/3, but it's still something to consider.

Also I have no idea how you guys managed to get your own ideas about who is scum and who isn't. For me pretty much everyone is null at this point. Probably lack of experience, or lack of activity (heh), but still, damn.
tiper
tiper
@Mod: Votecount and deadline
tiper
tiper
My thoughts:
  1. Town: fanderwikfartownik, Sakura, Lincolm
  2. Scum: Konei, Revenger
  3. Null: BRBP, DakeDekaane, Hika, Irreversible(leaning scum), Mr Color, Nyquill, Raging Bull, Tsukasa, those
Konei
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Konei
What exactly makes you still think I'm scum?
tiper
tiper
Nothing has changed.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Lol what kind of explanation is that?




Also I'm going sleep.

post those post!
tiper
tiper

tiper wrote:

And as I said before your reaction looked quite panicky for me. That's why I voted you. Your actions seem to be extremely chaotic.
Nyquill
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fartownik wrote:

DakeDekaane wrote:

@Hika & Nyquill: Why you think Konei is town?
^ this

And seriously, Revenger scum? I see absolutely nothing in his posts that state anything more than being an idiot, and he can be lynched for it in next days instead.

Nyquill wrote:

On day 1, there are 3 possible reasons why konei would vote sakura at that point in time.

1. She is scum and she wants to lynch a townie.
2. She is town and wants to reaction test her.
3. She is town and wants to lynch scum.

Basically, to me anyone who starts a vote by himself isn't worth voting out D1, since there is a 2/3 chance that he is doing something out of the best interests of town.

Now, from that, I have reason to believe at least ONE person on the konei wagon is scum.
Then I also stated my deductions and who I think is possibly scum right now.

Revenger is also a load of wifom, and honestly its better to get rid of wifom early so we don't have to deal with it later.

I need to look for Tsukasa's reasoning for tiper. Give me a bit.
Nyquill
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Tsukasa thinks tiper is scum because of his odd behavior and his "if I was scum" statement earlier and eh, quite honestly I don't disagree.

It also seems that of most our collective deductions include tiper in one way or another.
To me its either him or revenger, so I guess since there are people still not willing to see Revenger go for whatever reason and no one has really any reason to keep tiper,

Vote: Tiper


And he also was one to throw a lot of questions that doesn't really lead anywhere, and that is a sign of scumplay to me.

Also wtf Lincolm is being really weird and actually not posting in a mafia game

Prod: Lincolm
Konei
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Well, I will change my vote on tiper now.
I'll do this because his statement of "it works like you see" when he, Irre and me voted Sakura was suspicious to me.
Also he didn't answer to some of my questions what makes him even more suspicious.

unvote
vote: tiper
Konei
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also: tiper didnt really give a reason on why he thinks of me as scum although waht Hika wrote and said nothing changed.
It seems to me as if he was scum and wants to go with all the ones who voted me to get me out and attention away from himself.
Lincolm
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Lincolm
God guys. You leaved me 20 pages to read. I forgot I had competition yesterday and today, I should not online. (And 2 days ago I slept late because I read in here dammit)

I'm reading now. Probably I need a time read this.
Irreversible
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Irreversible
Okay, I'm back :D

What exactly happend that you think we three are scum? (tiper, konei and me)

I'm just wondering, i wanna see reasons
Konei
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Irreversible wrote:

Okay, I'm back :D

What exactly happend that you think we three are scum? (tiper, konei and me)

I'm just wondering, i wanna see reasons
We three were marked as scums because we voted Sakura on the start.
For me, I tried to explain the reaction test and the half-forgotten reason.
In my opinion, if I'm not wrong, your vote on Sakura was omgus, so I leave my vote on tiper.
Sakura
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Yeah, that WIFOM from tiper right as i accused all 3 still kinda rubs me the wrong way. The Konei wagon didn't lead to any scumslip or anything so I'm more inclined to believe his reasoning of just being newbie. I'm gonna see the current vote standings on the person I want to vote before I vote.
tiper
tiper

Konei wrote:

also: tiper didnt really give a reason on why he thinks of me as scum although waht Hika wrote and said nothing changed.
It seems to me as if he was scum and wants to go with all the ones who voted me to get me out and attention away from himself.
I quoted why I think you are scum. And now you voted me after Nyquill's vote. So, you want to get me B\Wed, I think.
Still keeping my vote on you. This action assumed me that you are scum.
Konei
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tiper wrote:

Konei wrote:

also: tiper didnt really give a reason on why he thinks of me as scum although waht Hika wrote and said nothing changed.
It seems to me as if he was scum and wants to go with all the ones who voted me to get me out and attention away from himself.
I quoted why I think you are scum. And now you voted me after Nyquill's vote. So, you want to get me B\Wed, I think.
Still keeping my vote on you. This action assumed me that you are scum.
As I stated before; I was thinking the whole time that you were scummy. Revenger is suspicious, but not scummy at all and acting
like he wouldn't care at all. I gave various reasons why I think that you are scum, and I'm still convinced that you are.
Sakura
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@tiper: Do you have any reasons behind Revenger as your scum suspect other than the OMGUS? Why Konei? the more he posts the more I think he's town, he's awfully relaxed for someone being put against the wall, continues scumhunting and hasn't thrown any AtE.

Another thing that bothers me about you is that you didn't question Hika's townread on Konei, nor her Scumread on you. I'll quote it for your convenience:
p/2308462

Hika wrote:

Null: Tsukasa, Mr Color, Lincolm (leaning town), Dake, tiper (leaning scum), those, Nyquill, BRBP
Scum: Irre (?), Revenger (?)
Town: Sakura (confirmed), farto, Konei, Raging Bull
Vote: Tiper

P-Edit:

Konei wrote:

Revenger is suspicious, but not scummy
This sentence makes no sense.
Sakura
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Sakura

I confused Revenger's name with Irreversible, Go me!, nevermind the first question.
Irreversible
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Irreversible
tiper, stop being pissed, really,

i finally figured out myself why you think we three are scum

Unvote
Vote: Tiper

Please, i think not one of us three would be that silly that we really do that.

I voted tiper because he tries to denounce Konei, which just pretty tells me that you want to distract from yourself.
Konei
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Sakura wrote:

P-Edit:

Konei wrote:

Revenger is suspicious, but not scummy
This sentence makes no sense.

Yea xD
I wanted to say he acted strange by not posting to get no attention.
Since if he was town he would be scum hunting instead of hiding.
Irreversible
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Irreversible
(with do that i mean vote 1 person at the same time, this would just be too obvious, even for a first time player)
DakeDekaane
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:D Hika, he might be scum and changing his vote just to join the wagon innocently, which isn't working.

Nyquill wrote:

On day 1, there are 3 possible reasons why konei would vote sakura at that point in time.

1. She is scum and she wants to lynch a townie.
2. She is town and wants to reaction test her.
3. She is town and wants to lynch scum.

Basically, to me anyone who starts a vote by himself isn't worth voting out D1, since there is a 2/3 chance that :D he is doing something out of the best interests of town.

Now, from that, I have reason to believe at least ONE person on the konei wagon is scum.
4. She's (he's) scum and wants to reaction test her.

And we're 50/50, with heavy evidence and common thoughts. Also on risky situations like this, we can't rely on probably unless we're totally sure.

But:
Unvote

This tiper/Konei reminds me Irre/Sakura, but this may develop in a different way. But Konei changed after being caught, got used to the game? trying to look townie to get away all those FoS?

Konei wrote:

Revenger is suspicious, but not scummy at all
Scumslip? :3

Posting from phone is haaard, but well
Irreversible
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Irreversible
@DakeDekaane: I wanna know your thoughts about who's town / who's scum actually, because you're always writing very much text, but i can't really get some information about you :3
Konei
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@DakeDekaane: I whonder why you ignore the tiper thingy here? Could it be that you two are scum buddies?
tiper
tiper

Sakura wrote:

@tiper: Do you have any reasons behind Revenger as your scum suspect other than the OMGUS? Why Konei? the more he posts the more I think he's town, he's awfully relaxed for someone being put against the wall, continues scumhunting and hasn't thrown any AtE.
1)Ofc.
1a)His AtE(looks so):
and if we both townie?and ok you lynch us and what then?maybe should think more to future cuz now its only about me and konei and the real scum sits and laughs ,yeah you can lynch me for unproductivity but there are still some people that hasnt said much so my sentence should concern them as well, no?
1b)
probably town: Konei,fartownik,Hika,Tsukasa,DakeDekaane
And he's still keeping his vote on Konei.
2) I think that he just waited till the Nyqill's vote and voted me. Exactly what scum must do when he got so many votes on himself.
those
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those
I'd like to believe that Sakura and Konei are both town. But Revenger on the other hand, not so sure. We've got posts like p/2308470 that kinda tip the scale.

Vote: ReVeNg3r

@Mod: vote count please
Konei
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First tiper, she told you to forget her first question because she mixed Irre and Revenger (if Im right)

Second: Hika doesn't have her vote on me, she has it on Irre.

I voted you because I found you suspicious the whole time and that didnt change. If not, tell me when I said I'm not thinking you are strange.
Sakura
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Eh the AtE comment was about Konei (as in saying i haven't seen an AtE from Konei), tho thanks for reminding me of that post of Revenger and his reads, totally forgot about that contradiction. Would be nice if you could also link the posts themselves, would make it easier to go in and verify them.
Unvote
Will check the ammount of votes on Revenger before I vote him.
ReVeNg3r
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ReVeNg3r
@tiper: no,i changed my vote on Nyquill and now unvoted
tiper
tiper
Oh god, I didn't see her second message, sorry. But I explained why I think that Revenger looks strange.
Second: Hika doesn't have her vote on me, she has it on Irre.
Are you talking about "1b"? This is Revenger's quote.
Sakura
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tiper: I'm not sure whether you're misrepping Revenger on purpose or not, but he is not voting anyone atm, (or at least i think so, since he bolded "unvote")
that doesn't clear his other suspicious actions tho, nor his AtE.
Konei
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tiper wrote:

Oh god, I didn't see her second message, sorry. But I explained why I think that Revenger looks strange.
Second: Hika doesn't have her vote on me, she has it on Irre.
Are you talking about "1b"? This is Revenger's quote.
Oh I see, Hika's looked the same.
But Revenger doesnt have his vote on me either.
Konei
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Sakura wrote:

tiper: I'm not sure whether you're misrepping Revenger on purpose or not, but he is not voting anyone atm, (or at least i think so, since he bolded "unvote")
that doesn't clear his other suspicious actions tho, nor his AtE.
So Sakura, you are not feeling suspicious about tiper anymore? Why?
tiper
tiper
God, I need to check all of the pages now. Be right back.
DakeDekaane
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Konei wrote:

@DakeDekaane: I whonder why you ignore the tiper thingy here? Could it be that you two are scum buddies?
As you can see, I didn't ignore tiper in my last post, and all questions I wanted to do him (why he voted Sakura, why you, etc.) was already questioned before, as he wasn't saying anything outstanding, I couldn't ask anything else. I may vote for him, but my main FoS is still on you.

Irreversible wrote:

@DakeDekaane: I wanna know your thoughts about who's town / who's scum actually, because you're always writing very much text, but i can't really get some information about you :3
So I write my condensed list:
Town: Sakura, fartownik, Tsukasa.
Scum: Konei.
Null leaning scum: BRBP, those.
Null leaning town: Revenger, Raging Bull, Nyquill, Irreversible.
Null: Mr Color, Lincolm, Hika, tiper.
Sakura
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Konei wrote:

Sakura wrote:

tiper: I'm not sure whether you're misrepping Revenger on purpose or not, but he is not voting anyone atm, (or at least i think so, since he bolded "unvote")
that doesn't clear his other suspicious actions tho, nor his AtE.
So Sakura, you are not feeling suspicious about tiper anymore? Why?
Still suspicious, but I need to check on whether I feel better placing my vote on him or Revenger, there's still a little bit of time left I think.
tiper
tiper
My bad. But I still agree with Sakura

Sakura wrote:

that doesn't clear his other suspicious actions tho, nor his AtE.
Hika
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I woke up about 30 minutes ago and am looking into this issue with tiper although I can't find a stance.

If anyone needs to question me, I'll be paying closer attention to the thread for the next hour or so.

Also,
@tiper/Konei/Irre: If you three haven't done so already (or if I am clearly blind), could you 3 tell me your possible picks for who may be scum/town and thoughts on each other?
I will explain my reasoning after I get my answers.
Sakura
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DD (So much shorter than DakeDekaane):
Is there any reason at present, while you still think that Konei is scum rather than newbtown? With quotes and post links (or just post links) please.
What makes you think those might be scum? other than his lack of activity that is a null tell at best imo.
What makes you think that Revenger and Irre are off the hook? Specially with that big AtE coming from Revenger.

P-Edit:
@Hika: What are your thoughts on Revenger's attitude and why? what are your thoughts on tiper's answers to my post in here: p/2309481
Irreversible
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Well, I kinda have problems with ordering who's what..

I have my FoS on DakeDekaane, Lincolm, Sakura and tiper,
reasons: DakeDekaane: He always writes tons of text, but he never writes something about the scum itself - for example before: tiper was kinda asked out, but dake didn't talk about it, why not? maybe they are scum partners, idk
Sakura + Lincolm: well idk how it works, but they seem they want to know everything about everyone.. but i don't get what they really want, also they don't really talk about theirselves - it's confusing

but my current vote is on tiper, because we three (konei me and tiper) are supposed to be scum - because we voted sakura on the same time - but I really don0't think any of us would be so stupid that we would really do that.

So tiper tried to denounce Konei, i'm currently asking why, so my vote stays on tiper for now
tiper
tiper

tiper wrote:

My thoughts:
  1. Town: fanderwikfartownik, Sakura, Lincolm
  2. Scum: Konei, Revenger
  3. Null: BRBP, DakeDekaane, Hika, Irreversible(leaning scum), Mr Color, Nyquill, Raging Bull, Tsukasa, those
Konei:
  1. I think his actions after he got some votes on himself were quite panicky. That's why I voted him. After that he voted me but after the Nyqill's vote.

    tiper wrote:

    I think that he just waited till the Nyqill's vote and voted me. Exactly what scum must do when he got so many votes on himself.
Irre:
  1. I don't really think he's scum, but I'm still keeping in mind that his vote on Sakura looked strange.
@Irre: I denounce him because I think he's scum. The reason is above(answer on the Hika's question)
Sakura
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Irreversible wrote:

I have my FoS on DakeDekaane, Lincolm, Sakura and tiper,
I kinda find it odd that you're the only one finding me scum atm, If you are suspicious of me why aren't you asking me questions to clear me towards either scum or town?
Irreversible
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You denounce him, because we all three voted Sakura at once - so this made us supicious, and now you're trying to get the 'scum' to Konei - this is what i'm currently thinking. Maybe i'll take back my vote, but not now
Konei
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My FoS is on tiper, DakeDekaane and Revenger.
Why?
I already explained multiple times why tiper is suspicious to me, DakeDekaane is writing a lot about me being scum but I dont see him try to
counter the reasons that make me town; so I assume he tries to defend tiper this way.
Revenger is posting all those weird things, doesnt want to draw attention and does like no scum hunting.

For town; I'm pretty sure that Sakura and fartownik are town because likely all they do is scum hunting.

It could be that anyone of the ones I didnt mention is a scum instead of the ones I think are scums, but that's how I see it.
Irreversible
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You might find it odd, but why? Are you annoyed that i'm thinking you're scum? If you aren't why are you worried? :3

Except if you are, of course xD
Konei
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Irre, why should Sakura try to find the scum if she was scum herself?
Sakura
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Irreversible wrote:

You might find it odd, but why? Are you annoyed that i'm thinking you're scum? If you aren't why are you worried? :3

Except if you are, of course xD
No I'm not worried, just find it odd that you've asked tons of questions and still can't discern my alingment, yet you aren't doing anything about it to discern it, considering I'm pretty active and can answer questions anytime.

So since you aren't asking me questions I shall ask you a question then.

Why do you find me scummy enough to warrant a FoS?
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Sakura wrote:

@Hika: What are your thoughts on Revenger's attitude and why? what are your thoughts on tiper's answers to my post in here: p/2309481
Revenger, to me, took my attention as "he could possibly be newbie scum without realizing what he's doing" but the thing is, he's just a newbie to begin with so I though that maybe, I shouldn't keep my FoS on him any longer D1. My reasoning for this is because at first, he was annoying everyone with his illogical statements and such, but as the game progressed, he took it a little seriously so I don't think I should keep my FoS on him any longer.

Since I'm on my phone, I can't see the exact post that has been linked, only the page, so if it's not much trouble, could you quote? I'll give my answer after I analyze.

Thanks you three. My reasoning for asking this was because it's a confirmed 1/3 scum count and a possible 2/3 if I can get the right information. I will possibly analyze this after I start my daily routine.
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Sakura wrote:

DD (So much shorter than DakeDekaane):
Is there any reason at present, while you still think that Konei is scum rather than newbtown? With quotes and post links (or just post links) please.
Aside from this:
p/2309411
[quote=Konei]Revenger is suspicious, but not scummy at all and acting like he wouldn't care at all[/quote]
p/2307772
What did that mean?
Explain Konei.

Sakura wrote:

What makes you think those might be scum? other than his lack of activity that is a null tell at best imo.
Just posting some thoughts and voting a probably town that was somehow confirmed doesn't look townie imo.

Sakura wrote:

What makes you think that Revenger and Irre are off the hook? Specially with that big AtE coming from Revenger.
I said it before, Revenger either wants attention/play around/get killed. His appearance saved Konei at some point, so we can call him scum, but based in later actions it's obvious it can't be, we can't trust him, but at the same time, he isn't dangerous, we can deal with him later if he ends up harming town.
And about Irre I said it a long time ago, that OMGUS vote was enough to consider him town, for now.

@Irre: Am I not writing about the scum itself? Almost all of my posts talk about them. About tiper thing, I already answered Konei.
@tiper/Sakura: what actions from Revenger made you think he's scum?
Konei
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@DD: Explained it here, lol t/132424/start=465
those
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Konei wrote:

Irre, why should Sakura try to find the scum if she was scum herself?
To act as if she was town. Mafia basics 101.
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those wrote:

Konei wrote:

Irre, why should Sakura try to find the scum if she was scum herself?
To act as if she was town. Mafia basics 101.
But wouldn't that mean she was going after her team?
DakeDekaane
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I think it's this: p/2309436

Konei wrote:

Yea xD
I wanted to say he acted strange by not posting to get no attention.
Since if he was town he would be scum hunting instead of hiding.
Not posting to not get attention is both suspicious and scummy, also he's not scumhunting, more scummy, why you think/know, he's not scummy. I'm basing this on your own words, makes no sense right? <:
Sakura
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@Hika: Quoted here:

tiper wrote:

Sakura wrote:

@tiper: Do you have any reasons behind Revenger as your scum suspect other than the OMGUS? Why Konei? the more he posts the more I think he's town, he's awfully relaxed for someone being put against the wall, continues scumhunting and hasn't thrown any AtE.
1)Ofc.
1a)His AtE(looks so):
and if we both townie?and ok you lynch us and what then?maybe should think more to future cuz now its only about me and konei and the real scum sits and laughs ,yeah you can lynch me for unproductivity but there are still some people that hasnt said much so my sentence should concern them as well, no?
1b)
probably town: Konei,fartownik,Hika,Tsukasa,DakeDekaane
And he's still keeping his vote on Konei.
2) I think that he just waited till the Nyqill's vote and voted me. Exactly what scum must do when he got so many votes on himself.
Hmm ok, let's see. From all your statements.

If Irre's scum then Konei's scum, and viceversa
Irre and tiper may be scum but not together.
Konei and tiper may be scum together.
If Revenger's scum then there's a high chance Konei's scum, considering he drew attention to himself when Konei was in trouble.
If anyone else is scum, then i got no idea who the other scum are.

I think tiper's lynch flip may answer some of our questions regarding alingments so.

@Mod: Vote Count please?

P-Edit: What's with the sudden WIFOM those?
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Konei wrote:

But wouldn't that mean she was going after her team?
Since nothing can ever be proven day 1, all you have to do is make \better\ assumptions on certain people.

Sakura wrote:

What's with the sudden WIFOM those?
Did I discover your secret? :O
Sakura
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Nope, you just come outta nowhere and try to place suspicion on me, for what reason? are we getting to close to one of your partners?
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Oh, now I get what you mean DakeDekaane.
I think Revenger is suspicious, if not I wouldnt have vote him.
Also he's in my list of being scum. The reason I voted viper back then
because Revenger can, if he really is scum, be eleminated later, but now I'm between tiper and Revenger with my vote.
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Hey, you're getting unnecessarily defensive now. The statements aren't even directed at you, so...
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do you mean me? If so, relax, I just answered DakeDekaane.
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Sakura wrote:

If Revenger's scum then there's a high chance Konei's scum, considering he drew attention to himself when Konei was in trouble
lol'd, it was just random time i posted i didnt really realized whats happening around.
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Ok, I'm back
@Sakura:

I'm paying attention to you because oyu always act strangely defensive, don't you think so? That's why i have my FoS on you,
you try to scumhunt, to let the others think you're town, but this makes me think you aren't, that's the reason why you could be a high chance scum

:)
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those wrote:

Konei wrote:

Irre, why should Sakura try to find the scum if she was scum herself?
To act as if she was town. Mafia basics 101.
Yeah totally not trying to raise suspcions on me :roll:
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Back from whatever I needed to do. 

Sounds to me that since tiper answered your question the way you asked it, which you said was a mistake, he didn't answer it as properly as you would have liked, which makes your question to me invalid unless you wanted me to analyze what he was saying about Revenger. As for referring to Konei, you are completely right, he does not AtE at all while being pushed into corner. Still, before everyone started to unvote, I realized that the chances Konei could be scum was lowered, basically because there were both scum on Revenger's and Konei's bandwagon. 

Currently, I'd need to see an updated count in order to lay my final opinions. 

Sakura wrote:

If Irre's scum then Konei's scum, and viceversa
I'm not sure if you're drawing this all from my post but I think Konei isn't scum still by his reactions and from my reasonings in earlier posts, the same goes for Irre. 

Sakura wrote:

Irre and tiper may be scum but not together.
This could be so because they're both constantly going at each other except I lean more at Irre being scum. The probability of this is 1/2, however. 

Sakura wrote:

Konei and tiper may be scum together.
This seems likely possible but since tiper is 'against' Konei and vice versa so far, this can't be too likely. 

Sakura wrote:

If Revenger's scum then there's a high chance Konei's scum, considering he drew attention to himself when Konei was in trouble.

ReVeNg3r wrote:

Sakura wrote:

If Revenger's scum then there's a high chance Konei's scum, considering he drew attention to himself when Konei was in trouble
lol'd, it was just random time i posted i didnt really realized whats happening around.
This could be a possibility but I've been trying really hard to keep deep WIFOM out of D1, mainly because no one, especially myself, has no leads unless someone amongst us is a cop. 

The likelihood, however, cannot be considered until at least another day or two has passed. This goes for all PRs. It hasn't been stated in the OP the possible combinations but knowing that there are 15 of us playing, it's very much likely we have two to three PRs. 
Irreversible
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Hika, i voted for tiper and said it like twice, i did never mention him before lol 'constantly' pls that's not true
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VOTE COUNT:

Konei (4) - fartownik, tiper, Tsukasa, BRBP
tiper (3) - Nyquill, Konei, Irreversible
DakeDekaane (1) - Lincolm
Irreversible (1) - Hika
Revenger (1) - those

Deadline is in ~30 hours.
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Heh? Tsukasa didnt vote, am I right?
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Irreversible wrote:

Hika, i voted for tiper and said it like twice, i did never mention him before lol 'constantly' pls that's not true
I could have possibly overexaggerated that, but you're still not on sides with him, or rather, on the good said with him. Still, my opinion doesn't change.

And now that I know the vote count and realized that yes, no one will side with me on getting Irre lynched, I will move onto tiper and keep my opinions on Irre and Konei exactly the same as before.

Unvote
Vote: tiper
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the good side*

pls autocorrect
tiper
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Konei wrote:

Heh? Tsukasa didnt vote, am I right?
You aren't.
Sakura
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As mentioned in my other post: p/2309615 was waiting for vote count before placing the vote so:

vote: tiper
for the reasons specified in the linked post.

@Hika: I also think Irre's quite odd, but I think tiper's a better lynch for today.
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@Sakura: Could you explain, why? Imagine, that I was lynched. What will you get if I scum/townsman?
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less WIFOM. And is that AtE? (God damn I had to google)

Again I like to say page 24 :(

When you said you voted Sakura for some information, it works out well. I say it works out well because our attention was mainly on Konei and Konei only. We barely questioned you at the time and I say you felt safe. You could also be scum because you saw the bandwagon on Sakura and probably did something like "Oh hey Sakura might get lynched! She already has two votes! I'll go vote!"
tiper
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No, it isn't. Just want to know.
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Also stop posting a lot when I am away. ;w;
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If scum: Irre's Innocent, mostly because the way you 2 act towards each other, and if you were scum, there's high chance you were trying to place suspicion on him by joining the 3 people against me wagon in such a speedy fashion.

If Town: then my next target will be Irre, due to the fact that he most likely hid behind the confusion caused by Konei and you.

P-Edit: No RB that's not AtE, AtE is more like when people go like "OMFG YOU MORONS IM TOWN WTF ARE YOU DOING" or something like that, he's merely asking why i think he's the better lynch for the day by asking my in advance what I'd do in case of either flip.
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btw that was an exagerated version to explain what AtE is, but yeah it's something like that (At least from what the people at MS told me)
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@RB: but if we assume that sakura is scum then it would be stupid from tiper unless he wants to be less suspected..so if tiper is scum then sakura probably not.
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Sakura you seem to be a pretty loner (here) - my current thoughts are:

the other scum might told you to play it like that, so you don't show it directly that you are scum.

Sorry Sakura that i'm aiming you that much, but I really really don't trust you, but i don't know who you're working with - I try to figure out that right now, i'm reading the other posts
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Well actually it's pretty weird that you voted tiper, didn't see that orz

nvm to this above -_-
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Irreversible wrote:

Sorry Sakura that i'm aiming you that much
Also known as tunneling, where no matter what one person says, you see them as scum or scum pretending to be town, in either case they'll always be scum for you.
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Idk it's just you're posting that much and it just seems like you're hiding something

-> I wait how it's going on now, then i'll see <-

ask me questions if you like o.e
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p/2307317

Irreversible wrote:

Do you want to let the others think you're a townie? Well, I don't believe you :/ You also write very rarely.. hm.
p/2309808

Irreversible wrote:

Idk it's just you're posting that much and it just seems like you're hiding something
:roll:
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I don't think someone's activity is a reliable strategy to figure out their alignment.
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By the way, I also watch TI3 everyday, perhaps it's hard to me to post when it's begin. (Today Mouz vs DD, aw... 5 hours and ggwp, Next is Liquid vs Dignitas, I wonder...I'm going to sleep or...This is better than Mouz vs DD...)

Good things just happened. BRBP and Nyquill remembered I wasn't active and Raging Bull remembered Those wasn't active also. Seems this game is going active a lot. Why no one remember Revenger and Mr Color?

Also, I don't like self-meta defense. What are you going to do with that...

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Konei still relaxed when he was pushed by the others. He said he is newbie, but he did reaction test, I don't think that what newbies done. Konei's begin bandwagoning over and over. I don't know, but I don't think this is scum and newbie what really do, but he pings me. But, I should agree with Hika in here.
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Mr Color didn't do anything. Noted.
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Dake probably town. His assumptions and judgment seems come from town.
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Raging Bull questioned a lot, but still, I can't read him. Quiet passive also. Hard to read also.
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I still don't understand what I don't understand about BRBP, or maybe BRBP don't get what I mean. Hard to read. BRBP like to bring enemies around to him. I like his style. Probably he wanted to bring me as his first enemy. I wonder why BRBP wait for me. Seems BRBP open his mind a lot, I wonder why also. Nothing important about that, but seems early defends, probably because he careful a lot with his post.
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Revenger probably town. Revenger just give assumption all over. Nothing important. Seems he don't care anything around. Cool.
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Tsukasa wanted to be asked when did nothing. Also wanted to listing people early. Noted. I don't get what actually Tsukasa post. (Also, Jester isn't bastard game, it still considered normal in bigger game, but this is LoL themed, I don't think there is 3rd party, if there is 3rd party, I picked Baron Nashor from beginning)
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Tiper pushed a lot in Konei. Seems opportunistic. Didn't say a lot. Only push over and over.
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Nyquill the first began to defend Konei. Logically right. Seems Nyquill interested with me, a looot. (I'm not interested with Vicks by the way)
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Sakura is very aggressive. Interesting player (but not near as Thor, sorry). Her reason about her scumread I can accept it, but simple minded, perhaps her style. Her townread... uh...
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I will respond all of posts after I have some sleep and begin my day. I know some of you already asked me a question, but I need to sleep. So, Unvote. I really have no idea where I should vote my vote. Also, please asked me question. I don't think you get what in my mind (especially BRBP :roll:).
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Mr Color wrote:

I don't think someone's activity is a reliable strategy to figure out their alignment.
It is a good news if you're scum then. Oh, also myself. :lol:
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[OffTopic]
Quite interesting that you're comparing me with Thor (are we talking about the same Thor here?) since he was the IC on my first newbie game at MS, he didn't look very aggresive to me tho. (unless you mentioned thor on the "Interesting" rather than "Aggresive" part.
[/OffTopic]

Lincolm: What do you think about my previous post?
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I'm going to sleep right now.
@Mod: votecount please
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Sakura wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2307317

Irreversible wrote:

Do you want to let the others think you're a townie? Well, I don't believe you :/ You also write very rarely.. hm.
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2309808

Irreversible wrote:

Idk it's just you're posting that much and it just seems like you're hiding something
:roll:
you suddenly started to write much pls D:
you're really interesting as lincolm said
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