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fartownik

Irreversible wrote:

@Fartownik: what do you think about lincolm and dakedekaane?
@Sakura: same question~
Can't say much about Lincolm since he's inactive. He's a null read for me.
DakeDekaane is more like null-town newbie.
Irreversible
I see~
Tsukasa

Nyquill wrote:

Now, before I throw my vote again,

Tsukasa wrote:

IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER

Scum:
tiper
Tsukasa, can you elaborate on that please? I might be missing something while reading but if you can sum it up that would be great.
I don't like repeating myself.

Well to be precise... I'm too lazy to repeat myself
Tsukasa

tiper wrote:

Konei wrote:

@tiper: So why would you want to test her reaction on being voted if she was already voted 2 times? It makes no sense.
3 votes are better than 2 if you want to cause natural reaction.

tiper wrote:

Because I really think that confrontation is a way to get some information at D1, when we don't know anyting about each other. It works, how you'd see.
Seriously... Is it just me or is tiper pulling reasons out of thin air?

Konei wrote:

@Sakura: I wanted to test your reaction on being voted suddenly, if I explained much my reason (which would be reaction testing) it would be pointless.

Also yeah, I'm newbie so I didn't think about reasoning my votes firstly hehe. Sorry for that.
Yeah... This guy as well
Tsukasa
And I like how these people who'm I suspected ignored my suspicion on them.

Obviously keeping distance from me.
Hika
Vote: ReVeNg3r
Topic Starter
Kanye West
Lincolm has been prodded.
Tsukasa
@Mod: I'll be away for probably 2 days or something
VoidnOwO
:)
Tsukasa
what?
Raging Bull

fartownik wrote:

Okay, back from sleeping. I'm gonna read the ISOs and come back. Just dropping by to say that I don't believe in Revenger being scum. If he was one, his teammates wouldn't let him act so stupid.

Well okay. He has been posting slightly better stuff instead of just "Dunno" However what Sakura has is also true about him saying if he won't post, he won't be suspicious.


Unvote
Vote:Konei
Sakura
did you just hammer? ._.
Raging Bull
I think farto said it was L-2 I'll check.
Raging Bull
Fuck I did.
Raging Bull

Kanye West wrote:

Tsukasa wrote:

@Mod: Don't tell me this is a bastard game...
Anything is possible.
I can't guarantee more than one vote count every 24 hours. I woke up an hour ago and the number of pages doubled x.x

Revenger (4) - Konei, Raging Bull, Sakura, Irreversible
Konei (3) - fartownik, tiper, Tsukasa
No vote (3) - those, Mr Color, BRBP
DakeDekaane (1) - Lincolm
Missed a whole page, this should be right now

L-4, approximately 53.5 hours until day end
BRBP Votes to Konei
Sakura Unvotes
Sakura Votes Konei
Dake unvotes
Dake votes Konei
Hika votes Revenger (wat Apparently Kanye didnt even have Hika?)
RB unvotes
RB votes Konei

Konei has 7 now. So L-1 now?
Sakura

Nevermind i was counting from Revenger's votes.

At this point, do not vote without declaring an intent to hammer and letting Koney make his last defense first.
Topic Starter
Kanye West
VOTE COUNT:

Konei (7) - fartownik, tiper, Tsukasa, BRBP, Sakura, DakeDekaane, Raging Bull
Revenger (3) - Konei, Irreversible, Hika
DakeDekaane (1) - Lincolm

L-1
Raging Bull
I'll just unvote and see if anymore discussion

@those/Hika What do you guys think about Konei's vote on Sakura and explanations?

And damnit those post something else. Your activity here is almost like last game which makes me think you are scum too.

Unvote
Sakura
btw, I'm not voting Revenger anymore, and you put me twice in that list.
Raging Bull

Kanye West wrote:

VOTE COUNT:

Konei (7) - fartownik, tiper, Tsukasa, BRBP, Sakura, DakeDekaane, Raging Bull
Revenger (4) - Konei, Raging Bull, Sakura, Irreversible, Hika
DakeDekaane (1) - Lincolm

L-1

lol'd
Sakura
that too
Topic Starter
Kanye West
Real fails

fixed, carry on
Nyquill
I really still think konei is a bad D1 vote for the reason I already stated (no one addressed that reason either).

Lincolm's inactivity also worries me, since he's generally much more active than this.

Actually, might be a good opportunity.

Lincolm, when you get back, can you tell me how you feel about the current votes?
Hika
I'm going to skim the entire thread from page 4 going forward in order to get into the game a little more because for D1, this is really deep.
Tsukasa
Nyq: Then who's a better vote?
Hika

Raging Bull wrote:

@those/Hika What do you guys think about Konei's vote on Sakura and explanations?
If you mean earlier at the beginning of the game where he was trying to do a reaction test on her, personally, I think it's Konei doing a really bad job at playing 'hard'. Sakura has her own things up her sleeve but as been noted before, she's just playing aggressively in order to find scum slip-ups. Scum wouldn't reveal themselves easily which leads me to my next couple of assumptions:

I am completely sure that Sakura is town and the same goes for Konei.

On the other hand, my FoS is on Irre and Revenger. It upsets me because Revenger doesn't post enough logical justification and doesn't seem to be taking the game seriously. I think it's better if he's lynched because he's not doing town or mafia any good by just sitting there, ignoring the questions he's been asked and/or answering them illogically/ignoring them. Irre is just acting like everything is a personal attack to him and it shouldn't be taken in such a way, especially when everyone (except scum) should be insecure anyway because they don't know their allies.

These are my opinions from what happened earlier in D1, since I'm actually sitting in front of a computer while posting this:

Null: Tsukasa, Mr Color, Lincolm (leaning town), Dake, tiper (leaning scum), those, Nyquill, BRBP
Scum: Irre (?), Revenger (?)
Town: Sakura (confirmed), farto, Konei, Raging Bull

Currently, I will leave my vote on Revenger because truthfully, no one else catches my suspicion so far (excluding Irre but he hasn't posted for a couple of hours or so). I agree with Sakura, no one should hammer until Konei can make his last defense post.
Hika
wait no this is not okay Unvote
ReVeNg3r
and if we both townie?and ok you lynch us and what then?maybe should think more to future cuz now its only about me and konei and the real scum sits and laughs ,yeah you can lynch me for unproductivity but there are still some people that hasnt said much so my sentence should concern them as well, no?
DakeDekaane
Some things before going sleep.

BRBP wrote:

inb4 you have a pro-town night ability that's going to waste now :roll:

Tsukasa wrote:

what?
He will kill you while you sleep. Maybe a joke~

@Hika & Nyquill: Why you think Konei is town?
Revenger is likely a townie who wants to be killed/attention/play around. Scummy? Maybe, but looks like town as nobody is supporting their actions or have a buddy until now.
@those/Lincolm: Say something, don't want any of you just come and hammer Konei.
ReVeNg3r
Yeah,i am trying to play something and still understanding how this game really works.If i were scum i would leave what i said for myself and wouldn't write yet,at all.
fartownik

DakeDekaane wrote:

@Hika & Nyquill: Why you think Konei is town?
^ this

And seriously, Revenger scum? I see absolutely nothing in his posts that state anything more than being an idiot, and he can be lynched for it in next days instead.
Raging Bull

ReVeNg3r wrote:

Yeah,i am trying to play something and still understanding how this game really works.If i were scum i would leave what i said for myself and wouldn't write yet,at all.
Actually, not posting would most likely everyone point you as scum, so it is good to post. And I said how you are still suspicious to me but you have been posting slightly better. I understand that you are understand how this game works, but when someone questions you and you just say "Dunno" or ignore other stuff, then it gets really suspicious.




It is 23 hours since his last post lol, but Mod: Prod those
Hika

ReVeNg3r wrote:

and if we both townie?and ok you lynch us and what then?maybe should think more to future cuz now its only about me and konei and the real scum sits and laughs ,yeah you can lynch me for unproductivity but there are still some people that hasnt said much so my sentence should concern them as well, no?
If you're both townie, great, you're both townie and you're both going to eventually get lynched or NK'd.

And seriously, has anyone noticed how Irre and Konei barely question each other? And by barely, I mean Irre has only questioned Konei once. It's bothering me but if I were to think about it, Irre could convince me that he is scum from just this one observation (and this is literally me trying not to consider the fact that they have shared avatars).

@Irre: how do you feel about what I've stated above?

DakeDekaane wrote:

@Hika & Nyquill: Why you think Konei is town?
Revenger is likely a townie who wants to be killed/attention/play around. Scummy? Maybe, but looks like town as nobody is supporting their actions or have a buddy until now.
I think Konei is town mainly because as what Lincolm has stated earlier in the game about me:

Lincolm wrote:

Hika tried to make a discussion before, but it is completely risky if I take a look at his post. I don't think scum will make risky post like that.
can be applied to what Konei is doing, except for the fact that it probably wasn't intended because he stated that it was only a 'reaction check'. He's being a bit risky on his actions which seem to others as scum trying to look townie, but here, I just see him defending himself, although before, he stated that he had a reason for voting Sakura, then later saying that he didn't have a legit one, only to go back to saying that it was a reaction check. He really doesn't know what he's doing and I understand that, but voting him right now is too risky for me, because I'm still thrown off about his role after thinking things over again, which is why I'm going to have to single out my vote on Irre, though no one will follow along.

Revenger really does seem town after looking back at a few of his posts in ISO, but that still doesn't remove my FoS on him.

ReVeNg3r wrote:

Yeah,i am trying to play something and still understanding how this game really works.If i were scum i would leave what i said for myself and wouldn't write yet,at all.
You need to realize that what you said earlier:

ReVeNg3r wrote:

Simply, if i don't post ,i won't evoke suspicions against me,don't you think so?
was, AND still is, highly suspicious and you have no right to be surprised if people hop on you about it, because it's really scummy. Just saying for future reference that if you really were scum (which I still question), you shouldn't say anything like that but rather, keeping it to yourself if you want to stay hidden (at least I'd assume you'd do that). Sorry but my FoS is on you still.

Vote: Irreversible
Hika

fartownik wrote:

And seriously, Revenger scum? I see absolutely nothing in his posts that state anything more than being an idiot, and he can be lynched for it in next days instead.
Well, if you'll read what I just posted, you'll understand what I mean when I think that Revenger is scum, though the suspicion is lightly drifting off of him. I'm mostly thinking about Irre at the moment and his connection with Konei in this thread.
fartownik

Hika wrote:

And seriously, has anyone noticed how Irre and Konei barely question each other? And by barely, I mean Irre has only questioned Konei once. It's bothering me but if I were to think about it, Irre could convince me that he is scum from just this one observation (and this is literally me trying not to consider the fact that they have shared avatars).
So you mean they both might be scum by this, right? Why not vote Konei then? :o
Sakura
Well Hika's defense for Konei's has been noted, I still have my doubts about Konei, but I may be tunneling on him too much, wouldn't want a quick hammer to happen tonight so for now.
Unvote
That will put him at L-3 and if he gets quick hammered then we can easily see who the 3 scum is. I'll take a look at Revenger's and Konei's ISOs again when I wake up and will vote based on what I find. Tiper's still rubbing me the wrong way btw, so is Irre.
ReVeNg3r
@RB: i dont understand how i suspected you ???and if you have any questions then ask me i have no problem with you, yet.
@Hika:Yes, i learned from it.
Raging Bull
Because I asked why you would vote for someone you think is town and you replied a dunno. And then Sakura pointed out something you wrote that was very suspicious.

Who do you think is town/scum? Give us your read.
Why did you vote for Nyquill earlier? Did something in his post stand out?
If you think someone is scum in Konei's vote count then who do you think it is?
Hika

fartownik wrote:

So you mean they both might be scum by this, right? Why not vote Konei then? :o
I'm not going to say that it was a 'reaction test' (GG), but after reading about the first 15 or so pages, they both differ in reaction, such as Konei wouldn't take things as seriously as Irre and of course, psychologically, getting rather defensive could mean that he could perhaps be scum because he was targeted so quickly. Konei, on the other hand, didn't seem (as I recall) too alarmed when he was called out for being scum.

If it's not good enough of an answer, sorry, I can't really give you a better answer than this without thinking more about it.
fartownik
After thinking a little, I say that one of the Sakura bandwagoners must go (Konei, Irre or tiper) or we will have too much wifoms in D2. It doesn't matter that much which one it will be since people already started to withdraw the votes from Konei.

But I'm unsure about taking my vote out of him as I don't trust neither Nyquill or Hika (yet), the main defenders of Konei. I'm gonna wait for what Lincolm has to say about this.
Konei
Just read everything and I have to say that I'm still most suspicious on Revenger.
I mean; why shouldn't he want to get attention if he had nothing to hide? If he'd be a good townie,
he would be scum hunting. About Irre, I'm quite not sure. He doesn't really seem to know what to do like me either.
Konei
Oh, and I'd still like to know from tiper why he decided to vote Sakura as the third one in first place to reaction check?
It was quite risky.
Tsukasa
tiper would be someone I'll vote
VoidnOwO
:)
Raging Bull

Konei wrote:

Oh, and I'd still like to know from tiper why he decided to vote Sakura as the third one in first place to reaction check?
It was quite risky.
He wants to start a discussion. But I still say he was rather suspicious. I say it rather worked out for him because the focus was on you and not on tiper too for bandwagoning on Sakura.
Tsukasa
Just to clarify... I'll be gone tomorrow for some shiz. And I'm not sure about the day after. So whatevs.

Anyways. BRBP :V

Don't fprce me a name that I don't want.

Calling me a PR... :V
VoidnOwO
:)
Sakura
Because PRs are the first thing scum wants to night kill.
Raging Bull
Tsukass
Tsukasa
lol RB.

Name was a figure of speech.

By name, I meant painting me as a PR.

And to be fair, someone else gave me that name. And that someone is the only one allowed to call me that >w>
ReVeNg3r

Raging Bull wrote:

Who do you think is town/scum? Give us your read.
heh i dont really have such a read,bit hard for newbie i guess
but if i really try to make it it would be kind of like
SPOILER
probably town: Konei,fartownik,Hika,Tsukasa,DakeDekaane
probably scum: Irreversible, BRBP, tiper
no clue: Sakura,Nyquill,Raging Bull,those,Mr Color,Lincolm
Nothing really special to say to them.
btw, only i have that feeling that Sakura and fartownik are playing together?I still dont know if Sakura is town or just acting it really well :/ .

Raging Bull wrote:

Why did you vote for Nyquill earlier? Did something in his post stand out?
Given to my first theory he was the choosen one ,and i still dont believe he is town, and still think one of those "rednamed" is scum and i will stay behind that.


Raging Bull wrote:

If you think someone is scum in Konei's vote count then who do you think it is?
After mentioning that someone is obviously scum on there, people changed their votes so its now discussable if there is one.
Cyclohexane
The thing with revenger is that he could very well be either legit VI and come up with arguments that really aren't valid, or he's asked to play VI to turn the discussion around. It wouldn't be surprising especially since he started doing it relatively late into the first day. That could mean a potential sacrifice on scum side which is really unlikely at 12/3, but it's still something to consider.

Also I have no idea how you guys managed to get your own ideas about who is scum and who isn't. For me pretty much everyone is null at this point. Probably lack of experience, or lack of activity (heh), but still, damn.
tiper
@Mod: Votecount and deadline
tiper
My thoughts:
  1. Town: fanderwikfartownik, Sakura, Lincolm
  2. Scum: Konei, Revenger
  3. Null: BRBP, DakeDekaane, Hika, Irreversible(leaning scum), Mr Color, Nyquill, Raging Bull, Tsukasa, those
Konei
What exactly makes you still think I'm scum?
tiper
Nothing has changed.
Raging Bull
Lol what kind of explanation is that?




Also I'm going sleep.

post those post!
tiper

tiper wrote:

And as I said before your reaction looked quite panicky for me. That's why I voted you. Your actions seem to be extremely chaotic.
Nyquill

fartownik wrote:

DakeDekaane wrote:

@Hika & Nyquill: Why you think Konei is town?
^ this

And seriously, Revenger scum? I see absolutely nothing in his posts that state anything more than being an idiot, and he can be lynched for it in next days instead.

Nyquill wrote:

On day 1, there are 3 possible reasons why konei would vote sakura at that point in time.

1. She is scum and she wants to lynch a townie.
2. She is town and wants to reaction test her.
3. She is town and wants to lynch scum.

Basically, to me anyone who starts a vote by himself isn't worth voting out D1, since there is a 2/3 chance that he is doing something out of the best interests of town.

Now, from that, I have reason to believe at least ONE person on the konei wagon is scum.
Then I also stated my deductions and who I think is possibly scum right now.

Revenger is also a load of wifom, and honestly its better to get rid of wifom early so we don't have to deal with it later.

I need to look for Tsukasa's reasoning for tiper. Give me a bit.
Nyquill
Tsukasa thinks tiper is scum because of his odd behavior and his "if I was scum" statement earlier and eh, quite honestly I don't disagree.

It also seems that of most our collective deductions include tiper in one way or another.
To me its either him or revenger, so I guess since there are people still not willing to see Revenger go for whatever reason and no one has really any reason to keep tiper,

Vote: Tiper


And he also was one to throw a lot of questions that doesn't really lead anywhere, and that is a sign of scumplay to me.

Also wtf Lincolm is being really weird and actually not posting in a mafia game

Prod: Lincolm
Konei
Well, I will change my vote on tiper now.
I'll do this because his statement of "it works like you see" when he, Irre and me voted Sakura was suspicious to me.
Also he didn't answer to some of my questions what makes him even more suspicious.

unvote
vote: tiper
Konei
also: tiper didnt really give a reason on why he thinks of me as scum although waht Hika wrote and said nothing changed.
It seems to me as if he was scum and wants to go with all the ones who voted me to get me out and attention away from himself.
Lincolm
God guys. You leaved me 20 pages to read. I forgot I had competition yesterday and today, I should not online. (And 2 days ago I slept late because I read in here dammit)

I'm reading now. Probably I need a time read this.
Irreversible
Okay, I'm back :D

What exactly happend that you think we three are scum? (tiper, konei and me)

I'm just wondering, i wanna see reasons
Konei

Irreversible wrote:

Okay, I'm back :D

What exactly happend that you think we three are scum? (tiper, konei and me)

I'm just wondering, i wanna see reasons
We three were marked as scums because we voted Sakura on the start.
For me, I tried to explain the reaction test and the half-forgotten reason.
In my opinion, if I'm not wrong, your vote on Sakura was omgus, so I leave my vote on tiper.
Sakura
Yeah, that WIFOM from tiper right as i accused all 3 still kinda rubs me the wrong way. The Konei wagon didn't lead to any scumslip or anything so I'm more inclined to believe his reasoning of just being newbie. I'm gonna see the current vote standings on the person I want to vote before I vote.
tiper

Konei wrote:

also: tiper didnt really give a reason on why he thinks of me as scum although waht Hika wrote and said nothing changed.
It seems to me as if he was scum and wants to go with all the ones who voted me to get me out and attention away from himself.
I quoted why I think you are scum. And now you voted me after Nyquill's vote. So, you want to get me B\Wed, I think.
Still keeping my vote on you. This action assumed me that you are scum.
Konei

tiper wrote:

Konei wrote:

also: tiper didnt really give a reason on why he thinks of me as scum although waht Hika wrote and said nothing changed.
It seems to me as if he was scum and wants to go with all the ones who voted me to get me out and attention away from himself.
I quoted why I think you are scum. And now you voted me after Nyquill's vote. So, you want to get me B\Wed, I think.
Still keeping my vote on you. This action assumed me that you are scum.
As I stated before; I was thinking the whole time that you were scummy. Revenger is suspicious, but not scummy at all and acting
like he wouldn't care at all. I gave various reasons why I think that you are scum, and I'm still convinced that you are.
Sakura
@tiper: Do you have any reasons behind Revenger as your scum suspect other than the OMGUS? Why Konei? the more he posts the more I think he's town, he's awfully relaxed for someone being put against the wall, continues scumhunting and hasn't thrown any AtE.

Another thing that bothers me about you is that you didn't question Hika's townread on Konei, nor her Scumread on you. I'll quote it for your convenience:
p/2308462

Hika wrote:

Null: Tsukasa, Mr Color, Lincolm (leaning town), Dake, tiper (leaning scum), those, Nyquill, BRBP
Scum: Irre (?), Revenger (?)
Town: Sakura (confirmed), farto, Konei, Raging Bull
Vote: Tiper

P-Edit:

Konei wrote:

Revenger is suspicious, but not scummy
This sentence makes no sense.
Sakura

I confused Revenger's name with Irreversible, Go me!, nevermind the first question.
Irreversible
tiper, stop being pissed, really,

i finally figured out myself why you think we three are scum

Unvote
Vote: Tiper


Please, i think not one of us three would be that silly that we really do that.

I voted tiper because he tries to denounce Konei, which just pretty tells me that you want to distract from yourself.
Konei

Sakura wrote:

P-Edit:

Konei wrote:

Revenger is suspicious, but not scummy
This sentence makes no sense.

Yea xD
I wanted to say he acted strange by not posting to get no attention.
Since if he was town he would be scum hunting instead of hiding.
Irreversible
(with do that i mean vote 1 person at the same time, this would just be too obvious, even for a first time player)
DakeDekaane
:D Hika, he might be scum and changing his vote just to join the wagon innocently, which isn't working.

Nyquill wrote:

On day 1, there are 3 possible reasons why konei would vote sakura at that point in time.

1. She is scum and she wants to lynch a townie.
2. She is town and wants to reaction test her.
3. She is town and wants to lynch scum.

Basically, to me anyone who starts a vote by himself isn't worth voting out D1, since there is a 2/3 chance that :D he is doing something out of the best interests of town.

Now, from that, I have reason to believe at least ONE person on the konei wagon is scum.
4. She's (he's) scum and wants to reaction test her.

And we're 50/50, with heavy evidence and common thoughts. Also on risky situations like this, we can't rely on probably unless we're totally sure.

But:
Unvote

This tiper/Konei reminds me Irre/Sakura, but this may develop in a different way. But Konei changed after being caught, got used to the game? trying to look townie to get away all those FoS?

Konei wrote:

Revenger is suspicious, but not scummy at all
Scumslip? :3

Posting from phone is haaard, but well
Irreversible
@DakeDekaane: I wanna know your thoughts about who's town / who's scum actually, because you're always writing very much text, but i can't really get some information about you :3
Konei
@DakeDekaane: I whonder why you ignore the tiper thingy here? Could it be that you two are scum buddies?
tiper

Sakura wrote:

@tiper: Do you have any reasons behind Revenger as your scum suspect other than the OMGUS? Why Konei? the more he posts the more I think he's town, he's awfully relaxed for someone being put against the wall, continues scumhunting and hasn't thrown any AtE.
1)Ofc.
1a)His AtE(looks so):
and if we both townie?and ok you lynch us and what then?maybe should think more to future cuz now its only about me and konei and the real scum sits and laughs ,yeah you can lynch me for unproductivity but there are still some people that hasnt said much so my sentence should concern them as well, no?
1b)
probably town: Konei,fartownik,Hika,Tsukasa,DakeDekaane
And he's still keeping his vote on Konei.
2) I think that he just waited till the Nyqill's vote and voted me. Exactly what scum must do when he got so many votes on himself.
those
I'd like to believe that Sakura and Konei are both town. But Revenger on the other hand, not so sure. We've got posts like p/2308470 that kinda tip the scale.

Vote: ReVeNg3r

@Mod: vote count please
Konei
First tiper, she told you to forget her first question because she mixed Irre and Revenger (if Im right)

Second: Hika doesn't have her vote on me, she has it on Irre.

I voted you because I found you suspicious the whole time and that didnt change. If not, tell me when I said I'm not thinking you are strange.
Sakura
Eh the AtE comment was about Konei (as in saying i haven't seen an AtE from Konei), tho thanks for reminding me of that post of Revenger and his reads, totally forgot about that contradiction. Would be nice if you could also link the posts themselves, would make it easier to go in and verify them.
Unvote
Will check the ammount of votes on Revenger before I vote him.
ReVeNg3r
@tiper: no,i changed my vote on Nyquill and now unvoted
tiper
Oh god, I didn't see her second message, sorry. But I explained why I think that Revenger looks strange.
Second: Hika doesn't have her vote on me, she has it on Irre.
Are you talking about "1b"? This is Revenger's quote.
Sakura
tiper: I'm not sure whether you're misrepping Revenger on purpose or not, but he is not voting anyone atm, (or at least i think so, since he bolded "unvote")
that doesn't clear his other suspicious actions tho, nor his AtE.
Konei

tiper wrote:

Oh god, I didn't see her second message, sorry. But I explained why I think that Revenger looks strange.
Second: Hika doesn't have her vote on me, she has it on Irre.
Are you talking about "1b"? This is Revenger's quote.
Oh I see, Hika's looked the same.
But Revenger doesnt have his vote on me either.
Konei

Sakura wrote:

tiper: I'm not sure whether you're misrepping Revenger on purpose or not, but he is not voting anyone atm, (or at least i think so, since he bolded "unvote")
that doesn't clear his other suspicious actions tho, nor his AtE.
So Sakura, you are not feeling suspicious about tiper anymore? Why?
tiper
God, I need to check all of the pages now. Be right back.
DakeDekaane

Konei wrote:

@DakeDekaane: I whonder why you ignore the tiper thingy here? Could it be that you two are scum buddies?
As you can see, I didn't ignore tiper in my last post, and all questions I wanted to do him (why he voted Sakura, why you, etc.) was already questioned before, as he wasn't saying anything outstanding, I couldn't ask anything else. I may vote for him, but my main FoS is still on you.

Irreversible wrote:

@DakeDekaane: I wanna know your thoughts about who's town / who's scum actually, because you're always writing very much text, but i can't really get some information about you :3
So I write my condensed list:
Town: Sakura, fartownik, Tsukasa.
Scum: Konei.
Null leaning scum: BRBP, those.
Null leaning town: Revenger, Raging Bull, Nyquill, Irreversible.
Null: Mr Color, Lincolm, Hika, tiper.
Sakura

Konei wrote:

Sakura wrote:

tiper: I'm not sure whether you're misrepping Revenger on purpose or not, but he is not voting anyone atm, (or at least i think so, since he bolded "unvote")
that doesn't clear his other suspicious actions tho, nor his AtE.
So Sakura, you are not feeling suspicious about tiper anymore? Why?
Still suspicious, but I need to check on whether I feel better placing my vote on him or Revenger, there's still a little bit of time left I think.
tiper
My bad. But I still agree with Sakura

Sakura wrote:

that doesn't clear his other suspicious actions tho, nor his AtE.
Hika
I woke up about 30 minutes ago and am looking into this issue with tiper although I can't find a stance.

If anyone needs to question me, I'll be paying closer attention to the thread for the next hour or so.

Also,
@tiper/Konei/Irre: If you three haven't done so already (or if I am clearly blind), could you 3 tell me your possible picks for who may be scum/town and thoughts on each other?
I will explain my reasoning after I get my answers.
Sakura
DD (So much shorter than DakeDekaane):
Is there any reason at present, while you still think that Konei is scum rather than newbtown? With quotes and post links (or just post links) please.
What makes you think those might be scum? other than his lack of activity that is a null tell at best imo.
What makes you think that Revenger and Irre are off the hook? Specially with that big AtE coming from Revenger.

P-Edit:
@Hika: What are your thoughts on Revenger's attitude and why? what are your thoughts on tiper's answers to my post in here: p/2309481
Irreversible
Well, I kinda have problems with ordering who's what..

I have my FoS on DakeDekaane, Lincolm, Sakura and tiper,
reasons: DakeDekaane: He always writes tons of text, but he never writes something about the scum itself - for example before: tiper was kinda asked out, but dake didn't talk about it, why not? maybe they are scum partners, idk
Sakura + Lincolm: well idk how it works, but they seem they want to know everything about everyone.. but i don't get what they really want, also they don't really talk about theirselves - it's confusing

but my current vote is on tiper, because we three (konei me and tiper) are supposed to be scum - because we voted sakura on the same time - but I really don0't think any of us would be so stupid that we would really do that.

So tiper tried to denounce Konei, i'm currently asking why, so my vote stays on tiper for now
tiper

tiper wrote:

My thoughts:
  1. Town: fanderwikfartownik, Sakura, Lincolm
  2. Scum: Konei, Revenger
  3. Null: BRBP, DakeDekaane, Hika, Irreversible(leaning scum), Mr Color, Nyquill, Raging Bull, Tsukasa, those
Konei:
  1. I think his actions after he got some votes on himself were quite panicky. That's why I voted him. After that he voted me but after the Nyqill's vote.

    tiper wrote:

    I think that he just waited till the Nyqill's vote and voted me. Exactly what scum must do when he got so many votes on himself.
Irre:
  1. I don't really think he's scum, but I'm still keeping in mind that his vote on Sakura looked strange.
@Irre: I denounce him because I think he's scum. The reason is above(answer on the Hika's question)
Sakura

Irreversible wrote:

I have my FoS on DakeDekaane, Lincolm, Sakura and tiper,
I kinda find it odd that you're the only one finding me scum atm, If you are suspicious of me why aren't you asking me questions to clear me towards either scum or town?
Irreversible
You denounce him, because we all three voted Sakura at once - so this made us supicious, and now you're trying to get the 'scum' to Konei - this is what i'm currently thinking. Maybe i'll take back my vote, but not now
Konei
My FoS is on tiper, DakeDekaane and Revenger.
Why?
I already explained multiple times why tiper is suspicious to me, DakeDekaane is writing a lot about me being scum but I dont see him try to
counter the reasons that make me town; so I assume he tries to defend tiper this way.
Revenger is posting all those weird things, doesnt want to draw attention and does like no scum hunting.

For town; I'm pretty sure that Sakura and fartownik are town because likely all they do is scum hunting.

It could be that anyone of the ones I didnt mention is a scum instead of the ones I think are scums, but that's how I see it.
Irreversible
You might find it odd, but why? Are you annoyed that i'm thinking you're scum? If you aren't why are you worried? :3

Except if you are, of course xD
Konei
Irre, why should Sakura try to find the scum if she was scum herself?
Sakura

Irreversible wrote:

You might find it odd, but why? Are you annoyed that i'm thinking you're scum? If you aren't why are you worried? :3

Except if you are, of course xD
No I'm not worried, just find it odd that you've asked tons of questions and still can't discern my alingment, yet you aren't doing anything about it to discern it, considering I'm pretty active and can answer questions anytime.

So since you aren't asking me questions I shall ask you a question then.

Why do you find me scummy enough to warrant a FoS?
Hika

Sakura wrote:

@Hika: What are your thoughts on Revenger's attitude and why? what are your thoughts on tiper's answers to my post in here: p/2309481
Revenger, to me, took my attention as "he could possibly be newbie scum without realizing what he's doing" but the thing is, he's just a newbie to begin with so I though that maybe, I shouldn't keep my FoS on him any longer D1. My reasoning for this is because at first, he was annoying everyone with his illogical statements and such, but as the game progressed, he took it a little seriously so I don't think I should keep my FoS on him any longer.

Since I'm on my phone, I can't see the exact post that has been linked, only the page, so if it's not much trouble, could you quote? I'll give my answer after I analyze.

Thanks you three. My reasoning for asking this was because it's a confirmed 1/3 scum count and a possible 2/3 if I can get the right information. I will possibly analyze this after I start my daily routine.
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