Neru - The Lost One's Weeping · forum

captin1

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Joined February 2011

Topic Starter

captin1 2013-03-11T22:23:05+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, May 03, 2013 at 3:25:59 PM

Artist: Neru
Title: The Lost One's Weeping
Tags: Kagamine Rin vocaloid vocaloid2 Broccoly Rosuto Wan no Goukoku
BPM: 162
Filesize: 14952kb
Play Time: 03:15
Difficulties Available:

Broccoly (5 stars, 791 notes)
Hard (4.46 stars, 284 notes)
Normal (2.98 stars, 194 notes)
Weeping (5 stars, 559 notes)

Download: Neru - The Lost One's Weeping
Download: Neru - The Lost One's Weeping (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Can you solve this equation on the abacus?
Can you loosen the rope around that kid's neck?

awesome video with subs from AmeSubs
Thanks to Broccoly for the insane+

Last edited by captin1 2013-05-03T20:26:26+00:00, edited 41 times in total.

deathrevised

11 posts

Joined November 2012

deathrevised 2013-03-13T18:13:41+00:00

Love the song and was thinking bout mapping it myself as well, but i looked it up first and I think you did a good job mapping but sadly i'm not good enough to to play it yet

So I was curious if you wouldnt mind me mapping a less difficult Insane

And maybe help you add an easy and medium, would love to see this song ranked

captin1

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captin1 2013-03-13T19:54:47+00:00

deathrevised wrote:
Love the song and was thinking bout mapping it myself as well, but i looked it up first and I think you did a good job mapping but sadly i'm not good enough to to play it yet So I was curious if you wouldnt mind me mapping a less difficult Insane And maybe help you add an easy and medium, would love to see this song ranked

I've already got another insane coming, but you could definitely do a easy/normal if you'd like

deathrevised

11 posts

Joined November 2012

deathrevised 2013-03-14T01:22:33+00:00

Ok cool, I'll work on Normal, saw this song posted on Crunchyroll and was thinking it'd be perfect for OSU!

Lanturn

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3,912 posts

Joined March 2012

Lanturn 2013-03-24T22:10:30+00:00

M4M here

[General]
Title: ロストワンの号哭 | According to the PV on Nico Nico Douga | this is the Japanese title.

[Normal]
00:59:363 (3) - One of my little pet peeves | Try to make this slider indicate the next note is going to be towards the right by adding a little more of a ( curve.
01:06:771 (1,2,3,4) - Control + G all of these, Stack them with grid snap on, and then Control+G | This will make the tail ends finish on the exact same spot instead of all random places.
01:14:178 (3,4) - Distance is a bit strange on this. Copy the (1) slider and do a horizontal flip for (3)? Adjust the distance spacing afterwards.
01:58:623 (3,4) - The distance between these notes is definitely not 1.0. I highly highly suggest you add a note at 01:59:734 | It matches the vocals and people won't get confused between the low distance space! | The reason why it shows up as 1.0 is because of the slowdown. | Best solution is to stack a note on the (4) slider as it won't require any tweaking at all to your map.
02:06:030 (1,2,3,4) - Try what I suggested at 01:06:771 here as well to make the tail ends match up
02:14:363 (2,1,2) - This change in distance spacing for a normal difficulty is a bit too much. If possible, stick to the normal 1.0 you've been using | Considering this is your easiest difficulty, this might be a bit too confusing for the newer players

[Death's Hard]
Lots of the notes on this hard really uses lots of random distance snaps, usually its fine but there are some cases where the distance is unpredictable.

01:05:103 (5,1,2) - Stack the (1) and the (2) slider where the (5) is
01:23:807 (6,1) - Make the tail of (6) end a bit closer to the (1)?
01:25:844 (6,7,8,9) - You should really use the distance snap here to make all these notes 0.8 away | Its too random.
01:53:252 (8,1,3,4) - The distance between these notes is too similar and its really confusing. Move (8,1) closer together.
01:55:196 (6,7,8) - Confusing again | (6) and (7) is about the same length at (7) and (8)
01:57:881 (3,4,5,6,7) - too confusing, especially because 5-6 is the same length as 4-5 and so on.
02:19:919 (5,6,7) - Again this spacing...
02:22:881 (8) - 02:28:807 (8) - 02:31:770 (7) - 03:01:400 (3) - These need distance fixing
02:35:474 (1) - Even out the distance between the previous and next notes (Use the top right to see how far apart they are)
and.... I've probably missed some as well.
This difficulty needs much more improvements with spacing. This is supposed to be a hard, which really shouldn't have too many strange jumps/anti-jumps, especially for how many random 1/2 and 3/4 notes you've placed. I would really suggest going through this again and try to be a bit mindful of the spacing.

[Insane]
00:13:067 (7,8) - Move the (8) a bit under the tail end of the slider. This implies that its a 1/4 note and should be much more readable.
01:03:530 - Add note? | Not sure if you'd consider this too hard or not, but there is some 1/4 drums here that would sound good if you followed them.
01:39:734 (4) - x256 y224 so it follows the same 1.3 distance as the notes before the triplet.
02:08:067 (1,2,3) - Move these down a bit? | They really seem a bit high up on the grid especially since its 1/4 hits
02:38:530 (2,3) - Seperate these two a bit more. | You swapped to a 1.0 speed on this note from 1.5 so using distance snap here won't help.

Circle Size + 1? | Notes really feel small for how big of a distance gap you have some notes

[Broccoly]
Huh? there's a difficulty harder than your insane?.... <_<;
00:51:215 (1) - make the reverse only 1/2 instead of 3/4? It completely misses the guitar (add an extra reverse)
01:21:215 (13,5) - Stack the (13) on the (5) Rotate: 01:20:660 (11) - a bit counter-clockwise as well
01:27:234 - Add note? | Can hear the drums clearly here
02:26:493 - ^

Not much else. some of those 1/2 jumps from one end of the map to the other might be a bit extreme, but I'm not an insane player so I can't really say much about it.

Anyways, Good luck with the map!

captin1

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Topic Starter

captin1 2013-03-25T07:32:19+00:00

"Lanturn"

M4M here

[General]
Title: ロストワンの号哭 | According to the PV on Nico Nico Douga | this is the Japanese title. AFAIK there's no written rule that says you have to use the japanese title. So I'm gonna keep it English. Personal preference. Thanks anyways!

[Normal]
00:59:363 (3) - One of my little pet peeves | Try to make this slider indicate the next note is going to be towards the right by adding a little more of a ( curve.
01:06:771 (1,2,3,4) - Control + G all of these, Stack them with grid snap on, and then Control+G | This will make the tail ends finish on the exact same spot instead of all random places.
01:14:178 (3,4) - Distance is a bit strange on this. Copy the (1) slider and do a horizontal flip for (3)? Adjust the distance spacing afterwards.
01:58:623 (3,4) - The distance between these notes is definitely not 1.0. I highly highly suggest you add a note at 01:59:734 | It matches the vocals and people won't get confused between the low distance space! | The reason why it shows up as 1.0 is because of the slowdown. | Best solution is to stack a note on the (4) slider as it won't require any tweaking at all to your map.
02:06:030 (1,2,3,4) - Try what I suggested at 01:06:771 here as well to make the tail ends match up
02:14:363 (2,1,2) - This change in distance spacing for a normal difficulty is a bit too much. If possible, stick to the normal 1.0 you've been using | Considering this is your easiest difficulty, this might be a bit too confusing for the newer players

[Insane]
00:13:067 (7,8) - Move the (8) a bit under the tail end of the slider. This implies that its a 1/4 note and should be much more readable.
01:03:530 - Add note? | Not sure if you'd consider this too hard or not, but there is some 1/4 drums here that would sound good if you followed them.
01:39:734 (4) - x256 y224 so it follows the same 1.3 distance as the notes before the triplet.
02:08:067 (1,2,3) - Move these down a bit? | They really seem a bit high up on the grid especially since its 1/4 hits
02:38:530 (2,3) - Seperate these two a bit more. | You swapped to a 1.0 speed on this note from 1.5 so using distance snap here won't help.

Circle Size + 1? | Notes really feel small for how big of a distance gap you have some notes Ugh yeah I've been on the fence about this setting for a while, I'll move it up
All fixed!
Anyways, Good luck with the map!

thanks for the mod!

Broccoly

1,359 posts

Joined May 2012

Broccoly 2013-03-28T13:33:23+00:00

Lanturn wrote:
M4M here

[Broccoly]
Huh? there's a difficulty harder than your insane?.... <_<;
00:51:215 (1) - make the reverse only 1/2 instead of 3/4? It completely misses the guitar (add an extra reverse) It was intentional, cuz 1/2 reverse slider felt boring. Also, I wanted to foreshadow the rhythm ahead.
01:21:215 (13,5) - Stack the (13) on the (5) Rotate: 01:20:660 (11) - a bit counter-clockwise as well Done~
01:27:234 - Add note? | Can hear the drums clearly here I like the current pattern~
02:26:493 - ^

Not much else. some of those 1/2 jumps from one end of the map to the other might be a bit extreme, but I'm not an insane player so I can't really say much about it.

Anyways, Good luck with the map!

Thanks!

fixed diff

osu file format v12

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TitleUnicode:The Lost One's Weeping
Artist:Neru
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Creator:captin1
Version:Broccoly
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Tags:Kagamine Rin vocaloid vocaloid2 deathrevised Broccoly
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463,216,147419,2,0,P|492:304|444:352,1,168.75
320,204,147882,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,348,148067,1,0,0:0:0:0:
396,160,148252,2,0,B|396:112|412:88|412:88|380:40,1,112.5
320,120,148530,2,0,P|244:64|244:32,1,112.5
320,44,148808,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,220,148993,2,0,B|240:176|240:176|200:152|176:104,1,112.5
28,32,149363,1,0,0:0:0:0:
132,192,149548,21,0,0:0:0:0:
132,192,149641,1,0,0:0:0:0:
132,192,149734,1,0,0:0:0:0:
32,356,149919,1,0,0:0:0:0:
32,356,150011,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,312,150197,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,312,150289,1,0,0:0:0:0:
444,360,150474,1,0,0:0:0:0:
476,172,150660,1,0,0:0:0:0:
476,268,150845,1,0,0:0:0:0:
444,80,151030,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,188,151215,2,0,P|224:148|213:93,1,112.5
108,56,151493,2,0,L|44:28,2,56.25
192,36,151771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,200,151956,2,0,L|32:96,1,112.5
200,204,152326,2,0,L|200:328,1,112.5
172,316,152604,1,0,0:0:0:0:
140,316,152697,6,0,L|20:316,1,112.5
88,240,152974,2,0,L|220:240,1,112.5
248,324,153252,2,0,L|276:272,1,56.25
320,356,153437,1,0,0:0:0:0:
414,193,153623,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,292,153808,2,0,L|424:176,1,112.5
396,360,154178,2,0,P|436:284|344:216,1,168.75
296,228,154548,2,0,L|360:112,1,112.5
260,300,154919,2,0,L|260:164,1,112.5
328,8,155289,1,0,0:0:0:0:
414,173,155474,5,0,0:0:0:0:
414,173,155567,1,0,0:0:0:0:
414,173,155660,1,0,0:0:0:0:
172,108,155937,1,0,0:0:0:0:
236,352,156215,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,296,156400,1,0,0:0:0:0:
340,276,156493,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,256,156585,1,0,0:0:0:0:
300,236,156678,1,0,0:0:0:0:
278,218,156771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
412,360,156956,1,0,0:0:0:0:
412,24,157141,5,0,0:0:0:0:
92,24,157511,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,360,157882,1,0,0:0:0:0:
412,360,158252,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,24,158623,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,356,158808,1,0,0:0:0:0:
192,68,159548,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,356,159734,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,68,159919,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,160660,5,0,0:0:0:0:
140,192,160845,1,0,0:0:0:0:
140,192,161030,1,0,0:0:0:0:
372,192,161215,1,0,0:0:0:0:
372,192,161400,1,0,0:0:0:0:
32,192,161585,21,0,0:0:0:0:
480,192,161770,1,0,0:0:0:0:
100,120,162511,5,0,0:0:0:0:
480,192,162697,1,0,0:0:0:0:
100,264,162882,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,163623,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,163808,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,164085,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,164363,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,164548,21,0,0:0:0:0:
77,204,164734,1,0,0:0:0:0:
82,241,164827,1,0,0:0:0:0:
117,253,164919,1,0,0:0:0:0:
123,291,165012,1,0,0:0:0:0:
159,303,165104,1,0,0:0:0:0:
165,339,165197,1,0,0:0:0:0:
200,351,165289,1,0,0:0:0:0:
434,179,165474,5,0,0:0:0:0:
429,142,165567,1,0,0:0:0:0:
394,130,165659,1,0,0:0:0:0:
388,92,165752,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,80,165844,1,0,0:0:0:0:
346,44,165937,1,0,0:0:0:0:
311,32,166029,1,0,0:0:0:0:
120,40,166215,5,0,0:0:0:0:
164,44,166308,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,52,166400,1,0,0:0:0:0:
252,68,166493,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,92,166585,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,120,166678,1,0,0:0:0:0:
357,154,166771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
378,192,166863,1,0,0:0:0:0:
390,235,166956,1,0,0:0:0:0:
386,279,167048,1,0,0:0:0:0:
371,321,167141,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,350,167234,1,0,0:0:0:0:
293,362,167326,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,335,167419,5,0,0:0:0:0:
219,362,167511,5,0,0:0:0:0:
176,350,167603,1,0,0:0:0:0:
141,321,167696,1,0,0:0:0:0:
126,279,167789,1,0,0:0:0:0:
122,235,167881,1,0,0:0:0:0:
134,192,167974,1,0,0:0:0:0:
155,154,168066,1,0,0:0:0:0:
184,120,168159,1,0,0:0:0:0:
220,92,168252,1,0,0:0:0:0:
260,68,168344,1,0,0:0:0:0:
304,52,168437,1,0,0:0:0:0:
348,44,168529,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,40,168622,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,164,168808,5,0,0:0:0:0:
64,164,168993,22,0,L|-8:164,1,56.25
448,164,169271,2,0,L|520:164,1,56.25
256,76,169548,2,0,L|256:12,1,56.25
256,344,169734,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,344,169919,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,344,170104,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,344,170289,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,260,170474,38,0,P|76:176|128:148,1,135.000005149842
292,160,170752,2,0,P|217:198|167:167,1,135.000005149842
96,20,171030,2,0,P|166:65|164:124,1,135.000005149842
72,260,171400,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,20,171585,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,160,171771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,260,171956,2,0,P|156:212|192:207,1,135.000005149842
285,231,172233,2,0,P|252:196|212:120,1,135.000005149842
291,160,172511,2,0,P|328:156|412:108,1,135.000005149842
272,32,172882,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,156,173067,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,208,173160,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,260,173252,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,312,173345,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,364,173437,22,0,L|328:336,1,135.000005149842
256,208,173715,2,0,L|256:64,1,135.000005149842
328,8,173993,1,0,0:0:0:0:
172,136,174178,2,0,L|56:224,1,135.000005149842
64,172,174456,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,264,174548,2,0,L|171:345,1,135.000005149842
172,300,174826,1,0,0:0:0:0:
316,304,174919,2,0,P|264:220|232:224,1,135.000005149842
152,144,175197,2,0,P|216:124|284:156,1,135.000005149842
384,228,175474,2,0,L|364:132,1,67.5000025749208
448,20,175660,2,0,L|461:86,1,67.5000025749208
492,220,175845,2,0,L|452:165,1,67.5000025749208
340,28,176030,2,0,L|379:82,1,67.5000025749208
384,228,176215,2,0,L|344:173,1,67.5000025749208
276,96,176400,6,0,B|260:56|216:36|168:48|144:100,1,135.000005149842
276,180,176678,2,0,B|256:212|212:216|212:216|212:280,1,135.000005149842
212,348,176956,1,0,0:0:0:0:
212,136,177141,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,324,177326,2,0,L|260:256,1,67.5000025749208
212,136,177511,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,324,177697,2,0,L|164:256,1,67.5000025749208
212,136,177882,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,284,178067,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,284,178160,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,284,178252,1,0,0:0:0:0:
348,284,178437,1,0,0:0:0:0:
348,284,178530,1,0,0:0:0:0:
348,284,178623,1,0,0:0:0:0:
348,24,178808,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,24,178993,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,284,179178,5,0,0:0:0:0:
72,284,179271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,284,179363,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,24,179641,1,0,0:0:0:0:
440,284,179919,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,236,180104,2,0,L|256:384,1,135.000005149842
256,192,180474,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,180660,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,143,180845,6,0,P|97:111|115:66,1,90
396,66,181123,2,0,P|414:111|440:143,1,90
300,338,181400,2,0,P|259:331|210:338,1,90
75,342,181585,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,140,181771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
437,342,181956,1,0,0:0:0:0:
75,342,182141,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,160,182326,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,116,182419,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,72,182511,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,28,182604,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,224,182882,21,0,0:0:0:0:
256,268,182975,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,312,183067,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,356,183160,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,183437,38,0,L|256:160,7,28.125
256,192,183808,6,0,L|376:192,1,112.5
180,192,184178,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,116,184271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,116,184363,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,184548,22,0,L|136:192,1,112.5
332,192,184918,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,268,185011,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,268,185103,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,185289,6,0,L|256:72,1,112.5
256,268,185659,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,268,185752,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,192,185844,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,186030,6,0,L|256:312,1,112.5
256,116,186400,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,116,186493,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,192,186585,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,168,186771,22,0,L|184:280,1,112.5
168,96,187141,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,96,187233,1,0,0:0:0:0:
48,160,187326,1,0,0:0:0:0:
382,216,187511,6,0,L|326:104,1,112.5
342,288,187881,1,0,0:0:0:0:
418,288,187973,1,0,0:0:0:0:
462,224,188066,1,0,0:0:0:0:
178,269,188252,6,0,L|290:213,1,112.5
116,224,188622,1,0,0:0:0:0:
116,300,188714,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,344,188807,1,0,0:0:0:0:
334,115,188993,22,0,L|222:171,1,112.5
396,160,189363,1,0,0:0:0:0:
396,84,189455,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,40,189548,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,32,189734,6,0,P|160:112|192:120,1,112.5
256,232,190104,1,0,0:0:0:0:
220,168,190197,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,168,190289,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,344,190474,6,0,P|176:288|184:256,1,112.5
296,192,190844,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,228,190937,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,156,191029,1,0,0:0:0:0:
408,352,191215,22,0,P|352:272|320:264,1,112.5
256,152,191585,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,216,191678,1,0,0:0:0:0:
220,216,191770,1,0,0:0:0:0:
416,40,191956,6,0,P|336:96|328:128,1,112.5
216,192,192326,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,156,192419,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,228,192511,1,0,0:0:0:0:
152,116,192697,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,336,192882,1,0,0:0:0:0:
152,116,193067,2,0,L|120:48,2,56.25
360,116,193437,21,0,0:0:0:0:
256,336,193623,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,116,193808,2,0,L|392:48,2,56.25
256,308,194178,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,56,194363,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,308,194548,2,0,L|256:388,2,56.25
312,16,194919,5,0,0:0:0:0:
200,368,195104,21,0,0:0:0:0:
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312,368,195474,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,195659,5,4,0:0:0:0:

Alarido

1,744 posts

Joined September 2012

Alarido 2013-03-30T19:58:51+00:00

From my Queue (: Let's go!

Sometimes a detected DS will be displayed on Hard/Insanes for whole diff and also for some parts just where I suggest any change (according to the spacing info on the upper-right corner of the Editor window/screen). (Now my osu! goes fullscreen in the Editor mode too

)

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[Normal]

00:01:956 (2) - Move 2nd dot to x:92 y:160 and 3r dot to x:68 y:220, for better blanket
00:03:067 (3) - Move 2nd dot to x:276 y:92 and the 3rd to x:204 y:28, same reason

00:32:326 (3) - Move to x:288 y:90, better spacing
00:33:437 (4) - Move the 3rd dot to x:64 y:200, for perfect blanket

00:40:104 (5) - Move 1 grid up for accurate spacing.

00:53:437 (4) - Move 2nd dot to x:392 y:236, for perfect blanket

00:55:289 (2) - Move 2nd dot to x:108 y:156 and the 3rd dot to x:108 y:104, perfect blanket
00:56:030 (3) - Move 1 grid left and 1 grid down, better spacing
00:56:030 (3) - Move 2nd dot to x:248 y:92 and the 3rd dot to x:308 y:92, for a nicer blanket
00:58:623 (2) - Move 2nd dot to x:176 y:56, for a nicer blanket

01:20:104 (3) - Move the 2nd dot 1 grid left, for better blanket.
01:22:326 (2) - Move the 2nd dot 1 grid right and 2 grid up, for better blanket
01:27:511 (1) - Move the 2nd dot 1 grid right, for better blanket

01:54:178 (1) - Move 2nd dot to x:440 y:240 and the 3rd dot to x:440 y:136, for better blanket

01:58:252 (2) - Move 1 grid down, for a slightly better flow and appearance

02:01:956 (2) - Move 2nd dot to x:420 y:108 and the 3rd dot to x:320 y:128, for better blanket
02:03:808 (2) - Move to x:268 y:356 and...
02:05:289 (4) - Move the slider to x:172 y:188 for better pattern consistency.
02:05:289 (4) - Move the 2nd dot to x:x:120 y:176 and the 3rd dot to x:84 y:144 for adjusting spacing with the next note without need touch in further patterns.

02:14:363 (2) - Move 1 grid down for better pattern look.

02:19:363 (3) - Move the 2nd dot to x:296 y:244, for better blanket
02:21:585 (2) - Move the 2nd dot to x:108 y:188, same reason.
02:26:770 (1) - Move the 2nd dot 1 grid left, same reason

[Hard]

01:15:104 (4) - Move to x:272 y:316 -- to make the pattern a bit more intuitive for FL players that have not so good photo memory (:

OOPS! I got an Incomplete Hard... captin1, you and Broccoly could make a good collab here (:

[Weeping]

*Spacing mods valid for DS=1.6x (tolerance: ±0.06x due to grid snap). Different DSs will be shown where necessary.

00:08:993 (1) - Move to x:72 y:60 for spacing consistency, and song seems not suggesting any jump

00:13:067 (7) - Set the 2nd dot to x:428 y:328 and...
00:13:252 (8) - move this note to x:428 y:328 and...
00:13:437 (1) - move this note to x:492 y:204 for spacing consistency

01:05:289 (2) - Set 3rd dot to x:260 y:224 and the 4th to x:312 y:220 for a nicer blanket.
02:04:548 (2) - Set the 3rd dot to x:268 y:136 and the 4th to x:324 y:152, same reason.

02:05:104 (1) - If changed prior notes, move to x:136 y:252 to keep spacing.

02:05:289 (2) - It could be a curved one like 02:03:067 (9) to fit better one of surrounding (in the timeline) patterns.

02:14:363 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - To make the stream nicer (only for DS:0.8x, tolerance: ± 0.06)
- move 02:14:363 (5) to x:488 y:248
- move 02:14:456 (6) to x:464 y:224
- move 02:14:548 (7) to x:436 y:208
- move 02:14:641 (8) to x:404 y:200
- move 02:14:734 (1) to x:368 y:204
- move 02:14:826 (2) to x:336 y:216, and
- move 02:14:919 (3) to x:308 y:236

02:26:215 (10,11,12,13,14,15,1) - To make the stream nicer (only for DS=0.6x, tolerance ± 0.05x)
- keep 02:26:215 (10) at same place
- move 02:26:308 (11) - to x:276 y:116
- move 02:26:400 (12) - to x:252 y:140
- move 02:26:493 (13) - to x:236 y:168
- move 02:26:585 (14) - to x:220 y:196
- move 02:26:678 (15) - to x:192 y:212
- keep 02:26:771 (1) at same place.

02:38:160 (9) - Move to x:84 y:176, and...
02:38:530 (2) - move to x:136 y:316 for a nicer stream.

[Broccoly]

00:02:234 (6) - Move to x:180 y:124 to fit better to the pattern

01:06:400 (7) - Move to x:36 y:204 to fit better (align) with slider's foot.

02:36:400 (6,7,8,9,10) - Make it aligned as below: just turn Distance Snap on, set it to 0.5 and keep <SHIFT> pressed while moving the notes.

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That's it ^^

Good luck for Rank !

Att.

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

3,528 posts

Joined April 2012

neonat 2013-03-31T04:42:29+00:00

Weeping

00:16:400 - add a note with a finish sound?
00:45:845 (7) - end at 00:48:993 instead?
01:38:437 (9,10,11,12) - try this rhythm here:

SPOILER

02:11:400 - add a note
02:30:197 - ^
02:35:567 - ^
02:40:104 - ^
02:43:067 - ^
02:44:548 - add a note with a finish sound
03:00:845 (2,3,4,5,6) - try this rhyhtm:

SPOILER

Broccoly

00:45:752 (1) - start spinner at 00:45:845
00:51:215 (1) - doesn't fit into the rhythm
02:49:548 (3,4) - seriously? The spacing. I can understand 1/2 beat, it's still quite decent. But this is a 1/4 beat.

I suggest you look through your difficulty again thoroughly and look at the spacing because it's quite messy right now. Auto mod if you have to.

Good luck

Broccoly

1,359 posts

Joined May 2012

Broccoly 2013-03-31T05:08:06+00:00

neonat wrote:
Broccoly

00:45:752 (1) - start spinner at 00:45:845 Fixed
00:51:215 (1) - doesn't fit into the rhythm with the same reason i mentioned in the above reply, i'm really not willing to change it..
02:49:548 (3,4) - seriously? The spacing. I can understand 1/2 beat, it's still quite decent. But this is a 1/4 beat. well, considering the part being the most high-tensioned and highlighted, and the fact that this diff being the hardest diff, i don't think it's a big problem, plus several test-players never even mentioned it, including high rank players (DoKolP, Raiku, and syncrocat) and players around my level (my friends).

I suggest you look through your difficulty again thoroughly and look at the spacing because it's quite messy right now. Auto mod if you have to.
I don't get why inconsistent spacing with x0.1~3 difference (maybe more than that in some parts, but those have the musical backgrounds that deserve them) matters if the objects are all in the hittable range, and flows well overall. About that auto thing, please don't assume that others will fail too because you did.

Good luck Thanks

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96,20,171585,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,160,171771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,260,171956,2,0,P|156:212|192:207,1,135.000005149842
285,231,172233,2,0,P|252:196|212:120,1,135.000005149842
291,160,172511,2,0,P|328:156|412:108,1,135.000005149842
272,32,172882,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,156,173067,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,208,173160,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,260,173252,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,312,173345,1,0,0:0:0:0:
480,364,173437,22,0,L|328:336,1,135.000005149842
256,208,173715,2,0,L|256:64,1,135.000005149842
328,8,173993,1,0,0:0:0:0:
172,136,174178,2,0,L|56:224,1,135.000005149842
64,172,174456,1,0,0:0:0:0:
64,264,174548,2,0,L|171:345,1,135.000005149842
172,300,174826,1,0,0:0:0:0:
316,304,174919,2,0,P|264:220|232:224,1,135.000005149842
152,144,175197,2,0,P|216:124|284:156,1,135.000005149842
384,228,175474,2,0,L|364:132,1,67.5000025749208
448,20,175660,2,0,L|461:86,1,67.5000025749208
492,220,175845,2,0,L|452:165,1,67.5000025749208
340,28,176030,2,0,L|379:82,1,67.5000025749208
384,228,176215,2,0,L|344:173,1,67.5000025749208
276,96,176400,6,0,B|260:56|216:36|168:48|144:100,1,135.000005149842
276,180,176678,2,0,B|256:212|212:216|212:216|212:280,1,135.000005149842
212,348,176956,1,0,0:0:0:0:
212,136,177141,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,324,177326,2,0,L|260:256,1,67.5000025749208
212,136,177511,1,0,0:0:0:0:
136,324,177697,2,0,L|164:256,1,67.5000025749208
212,136,177882,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,284,178067,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,284,178160,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,284,178252,1,0,0:0:0:0:
348,284,178437,1,0,0:0:0:0:
348,284,178530,1,0,0:0:0:0:
348,284,178623,1,0,0:0:0:0:
348,24,178808,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,24,178993,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,284,179178,5,0,0:0:0:0:
72,284,179271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,284,179363,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,24,179641,1,0,0:0:0:0:
440,284,179919,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,236,180104,2,0,L|256:384,1,135.000005149842
256,192,180474,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,180660,1,0,0:0:0:0:
72,143,180845,6,0,P|97:111|115:66,1,90
396,66,181123,2,0,P|414:111|440:143,1,90
300,338,181400,2,0,P|259:331|210:338,1,90
75,342,181585,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,140,181771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
437,342,181956,1,0,0:0:0:0:
75,342,182141,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,160,182326,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,116,182419,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,72,182511,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,28,182604,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,224,182882,21,0,0:0:0:0:
256,268,182975,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,312,183067,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,356,183160,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,183437,38,0,L|256:160,7,28.125
256,192,183808,6,0,L|376:192,1,112.5
180,192,184178,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,116,184271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,116,184363,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,184548,22,0,L|136:192,1,112.5
332,192,184918,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,268,185011,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,268,185103,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,185289,6,0,L|256:72,1,112.5
256,268,185659,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,268,185752,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,192,185844,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,186030,6,0,L|256:312,1,112.5
256,116,186400,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,116,186493,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,192,186585,1,0,0:0:0:0:
128,168,186771,22,0,L|184:280,1,112.5
168,96,187141,1,0,0:0:0:0:
92,96,187233,1,0,0:0:0:0:
48,160,187326,1,0,0:0:0:0:
382,216,187511,6,0,L|326:104,1,112.5
342,288,187881,1,0,0:0:0:0:
418,288,187973,1,0,0:0:0:0:
462,224,188066,1,0,0:0:0:0:
178,269,188252,6,0,L|290:213,1,112.5
116,224,188622,1,0,0:0:0:0:
116,300,188714,1,0,0:0:0:0:
180,344,188807,1,0,0:0:0:0:
334,115,188993,22,0,L|222:171,1,112.5
396,160,189363,1,0,0:0:0:0:
396,84,189455,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,40,189548,1,0,0:0:0:0:
104,32,189734,6,0,P|160:112|192:120,1,112.5
256,232,190104,1,0,0:0:0:0:
220,168,190197,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,168,190289,1,0,0:0:0:0:
96,344,190474,6,0,P|176:288|184:256,1,112.5
296,192,190844,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,228,190937,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,156,191029,1,0,0:0:0:0:
408,352,191215,22,0,P|352:272|320:264,1,112.5
256,152,191585,1,0,0:0:0:0:
292,216,191678,1,0,0:0:0:0:
220,216,191770,1,0,0:0:0:0:
416,40,191956,6,0,P|336:96|328:128,1,112.5
216,192,192326,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,156,192419,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,228,192511,1,0,0:0:0:0:
152,116,192697,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,336,192882,1,0,0:0:0:0:
152,116,193067,2,0,L|120:48,2,56.25
360,116,193437,21,0,0:0:0:0:
256,336,193623,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,116,193808,2,0,L|392:48,2,56.25
256,308,194178,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,56,194363,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,308,194548,2,0,L|256:388,2,56.25
312,16,194919,5,0,0:0:0:0:
200,368,195104,21,0,0:0:0:0:
200,16,195289,5,0,0:0:0:0:
312,368,195474,5,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,195659,5,4,0:0:0:0:

Last edited by Broccoly 2013-03-31T05:21:18+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

captin1

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captin1 2013-03-31T05:21:08+00:00

"cFiszpan"

From my Queue (: Let's go!

Sometimes a detected DS will be displayed on Hard/Insanes for whole diff and also for some parts just where I suggest any change (according to the spacing info on the upper-right corner of the Editor window/screen). (Now my osu! goes fullscreen in the Editor mode too

)

_____Begin________________________________________________

[Normal]

00:01:956 (2) - Move 2nd dot to x:92 y:160 and 3r dot to x:68 y:220, for better blanket
00:03:067 (3) - Move 2nd dot to x:276 y:92 and the 3rd to x:204 y:28, same reason

00:32:326 (3) - Move to x:288 y:90, better spacing
00:33:437 (4) - Move the 3rd dot to x:64 y:200, for perfect blanket

00:40:104 (5) - Move 1 grid up for accurate spacing.

00:53:437 (4) - Move 2nd dot to x:392 y:236, for perfect blanket

00:55:289 (2) - Move 2nd dot to x:108 y:156 and the 3rd dot to x:108 y:104, perfect blanket
00:56:030 (3) - Move 1 grid left and 1 grid down, better spacing
00:56:030 (3) - Move 2nd dot to x:248 y:92 and the 3rd dot to x:308 y:92, for a nicer blanket
00:58:623 (2) - Move 2nd dot to x:176 y:56, for a nicer blanket

01:20:104 (3) - Move the 2nd dot 1 grid left, for better blanket.
01:22:326 (2) - Move the 2nd dot 1 grid right and 2 grid up, for better blanket
01:27:511 (1) - Move the 2nd dot 1 grid right, for better blanket

01:54:178 (1) - Move 2nd dot to x:440 y:240 and the 3rd dot to x:440 y:136, for better blanket

01:58:252 (2) - Move 1 grid down, for a slightly better flow and appearance

02:01:956 (2) - Move 2nd dot to x:420 y:108 and the 3rd dot to x:320 y:128, for better blanket
02:03:808 (2) - Move to x:268 y:356 and... uh, what? that would put this at 1.5 spacing lol
02:05:289 (4) - Move the slider to x:172 y:188 for better pattern consistency. this one makes sense, the one right before doesn't
02:05:289 (4) - Move the 2nd dot to x:x:120 y:176 and the 3rd dot to x:84 y:144 for adjusting spacing with the next note without need touch in further patterns.

02:14:363 (2) - Move 1 grid down for better pattern look.

02:19:363 (3) - Move the 2nd dot to x:296 y:244, for better blanket
02:21:585 (2) - Move the 2nd dot to x:108 y:188, same reason.
02:26:770 (1) - Move the 2nd dot 1 grid left, same reason

[Hard]

01:15:104 (4) - Move to x:272 y:316 -- to make the pattern a bit more intuitive for FL players that have not so good photo memory (:

OOPS! I got an Incomplete Hard... captin1, you and Broccoly could make a good collab here (:

[Weeping]

*Spacing mods valid for DS=1.6x (tolerance: ±0.06x due to grid snap). Different DSs will be shown where necessary.

00:08:993 (1) - Move to x:72 y:60 for spacing consistency, and song seems not suggesting any jump

00:13:067 (7) - Set the 2nd dot to x:428 y:328 and...
00:13:252 (8) - move this note to x:428 y:328 and...
00:13:437 (1) - move this note to x:492 y:204 for spacing consistency

01:05:289 (2) - Set 3rd dot to x:260 y:224 and the 4th to x:312 y:220 for a nicer blanket.
02:04:548 (2) - Set the 3rd dot to x:268 y:136 and the 4th to x:324 y:152, same reason.

02:05:104 (1) - If changed prior notes, move to x:136 y:252 to keep spacing.

02:05:289 (2) - It could be a curved one like 02:03:067 (9) to fit better one of surrounding (in the timeline) patterns.

02:14:363 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - To make the stream nicer (only for DS:0.8x, tolerance: ± 0.06)
- move 02:14:363 (5) to x:488 y:248
- move 02:14:456 (6) to x:464 y:224
- move 02:14:548 (7) to x:436 y:208
- move 02:14:641 (8) to x:404 y:200
- move 02:14:734 (1) to x:368 y:204
- move 02:14:826 (2) to x:336 y:216, and
- move 02:14:919 (3) to x:308 y:236

02:26:215 (10,11,12,13,14,15,1) - To make the stream nicer (only for DS=0.6x, tolerance ± 0.05x)
- keep 02:26:215 (10) at same place
- move 02:26:308 (11) - to x:276 y:116
- move 02:26:400 (12) - to x:252 y:140
- move 02:26:493 (13) - to x:236 y:168
- move 02:26:585 (14) - to x:220 y:196
- move 02:26:678 (15) - to x:192 y:212
- keep 02:26:771 (1) at same place.

02:38:160 (9) - Move to x:84 y:176, and...
02:38:530 (2) - move to x:136 y:316 for a nicer stream.

¯¯¯¯¯End¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯

That's it ^^

Good luck for Rank !
All the rest fixed!
Att.

"neonat"

Weeping

00:16:400 - add a note with a finish sound?
00:45:845 (7) - end at 00:48:993 instead? no thanks, keeping it the same length as vocal
01:38:437 (9,10,11,12) - try this rhythm here:

SPOILER

02:11:400 - add a note no thanks
02:30:197 - ^
02:35:567 - ^
02:40:104 - ^ I like this section how it is
02:43:067 - ^ ^
02:44:548 - add a note with a finish sound no beat here for effect
03:00:845 (2,3,4,5,6) - try this rhyhtm: keeping these as jumps

SPOILER

all the rest fixed!
Good luck

thanks so much for the mods!

Broccoly

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Broccoly 2013-03-31T05:22:30+00:00

cFiszpan wrote:
From my Queue (: Let's go!

[Broccoly]

00:02:234 (6) - Move to x:180 y:124 to fit better to the pattern done

01:06:400 (7) - Move to x:36 y:204 to fit better (align) with slider's foot. done

02:36:400 (6,7,8,9,10) - Make it aligned as below: just turn Distance Snap on, set it to 0.5 and keep <SHIFT> pressed while moving the notes. done. Thanks for useful skill man :p

Good luck for Rank ! you too

Att.

neonat

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neonat 2013-03-31T05:45:12+00:00

Broccoly wrote:
neonat wrote:
I don't get why inconsistent spacing with x0.1~3 difference (maybe more than that in some parts, but those have the musical backgrounds that deserve them) matters if the objects are all in the hittable range, and flows well overall. About that auto thing, please don't assume that others will fail too because you did.

It was just a suggestion, and as for auto mod, it's just another way to see the map, it doesn't mean it is used because no one can do it, and please don't assume I will fail.

GugUCorn

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GugUCorn 2013-03-31T11:34:12+00:00

[Broccoly]

00:45:845 (1) - start on 00:46:215 and add note on 00:45:845,00:45:937,00:46:030
00:51:956 (1) - finish on head
00:57:882 (3) - ^
01:03:808 (2) - ^
01:09:734 (2) - ^
01:39:734 (1) - finish
02:33:808 (6) - Ctrl+G?
02:37:141 (1,2,3,4) - finish
02:38:623 (1,2) - ^
02:41:585 (1,2) - ^
02:44:548 (1) - ^
02:50:474 (1) - ^

[Weeping]

00:04:734 (2) - NC
00:08:623 (5,6) - remove (6) note and 1 repeat (5) slider
00:13:067 (7,8) - ^
00:31:400 (4) - 1 repeat
00:45:845 (7) - NC and end 00:48:623
01:27:511 (1) - finish
01:56:215 (8) - do not overlap..hard to see that note
01:56:400 (1) - NC
02:26:771 (1) - ^
02:44:548 - add note

[Hard]

00:43:252 - add break time
00:49:178 - ^
01:27:511 (1) - finish

ah!! i forgot Hard Diff is WIP!

[Normal]

00:48:808 - add break time
00:51:956 (1) - finish
01:06:771 (1,2,3,4) - maybe hard for Normal Player
01:33:437 (1) - finish
02:06:030 (1,2,3,4) - maybe hard for Normal Player

Broccoly

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Broccoly 2013-03-31T12:36:19+00:00

neonat wrote:
It was just a suggestion, and as for auto mod, it's just another way to see the map, it doesn't mean it is used because no one can do it, and please don't assume I will fail.

well, yeah I know auto is another way of seeing the map, and I use it a lot. Sorry if you meant that, but man the way you put your words felt pretty condescending. If not, I apologize.

neonat

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neonat 2013-03-31T14:15:15+00:00

Broccoly wrote:
neonat wrote:
It was just a suggestion, and as for auto mod, it's just another way to see the map, it doesn't mean it is used because no one can do it, and please don't assume I will fail.

well, yeah I know auto is another way of seeing the map, and I use it a lot. Sorry if you meant that, but man the way you put your words felt pretty condescending. If not, I apologize.

Sorry if it sounded condescending. Let's put it aside, make love, not war. ^^

captin1

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captin1 2013-03-31T14:28:26+00:00

Pisces

[Weeping]

00:04:734 (2) - NC
00:08:623 (5,6) - remove (6) note and 1 repeat (5) slider
00:13:067 (7,8) - ^
00:31:400 (4) - 1 repeat
00:45:845 (7) - NC and end 00:48:623
01:27:511 (1) - finish
01:56:215 (8) - do not overlap..hard to see that note
01:56:400 (1) - NC
02:26:771 (1) - ^ already there
02:44:548 - add note already stated why this is empty.

[Hard]

00:43:252 - add break time
00:49:178 - ^
01:27:511 (1) - finish

ah!! i forgot Hard Diff is WIP!

[Normal]

00:48:808 - add break time
00:51:956 (1) - finish
01:06:771 (1,2,3,4) - maybe hard for Normal Player
01:33:437 (1) - finish
02:06:030 (1,2,3,4) - maybe hard for Normal Player

All the rest fixed

Thanks for the mod!

CXu

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CXu 2013-04-01T12:08:17+00:00

Hey there! Testplay of [Broccoly] requested from here.
~~https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/xemmrIl.png~~

SPOILER

Replay.

The map plays fine and it's mostly pretty fun. There are a few points I'd like to see fixed though, as some parts of the map plays a bit badly and/or weirdly.
I'm fine with most of the spacing, as it's mostly readable. Do consider to make the spacing more unified throughout the map though; it helps giving the map a more structured and polished feel.
Generally a lack of hitsounds in the diff imo. Consider adding more variance to hitsounds. Currently, a lot of parts, such as the guitar solo at the beginning, are completely void of hitsounds, wher you could follow either drums or guitar with them. This way, hitting notes will also feel much better, and feel like you're playing in the music, and not above it.
I'm not sure how much I like this pattern 00:34:734 (3,4), as I think it'll play much better if you just add a repeat on (3).
00:35:937 (9) - No problem with timing, but the distance here is very huge and unnatural. The spacing is almost as huge as 00:35:104 (5,6), which makes this part read as 1/2 instead of what it is, 1/4. The non-curve/smooth/whatyouwanttocallit angle from (8) to (9) also indicates a break rather than a speedup to 1/4. You really should change the shape of (9), and move the sliderhead closer to (8) for a better playing experience.
You have a few spinners that begin on a very audible beat, which really calls for a hitobject, such as 00:40:104 or 00:45:845. Consider shortening the first spinner by 1/4, and add a note there (you really should do this, as this is actually a downbeat). For the second spinner, you can start the spinner at 00:46:030 instead, and add a note at the red tick before to follow lyrics.
The slider at 00:51:215 (1) is wrong. The repeat is not timed at anything, and the slider switches from guitar to vocals, and doesn't fit. Either shorten this by 1/2, or extend by 1/2 and remove the repeat. Currently it both sounds and plays badly.
01:18:900 (4,5) - This doesn't make much sense because of how the vocals doesn't start until 01:19:178. You should shorten (5) by 1/4. Currently, the sliderhead of (5) isn't timed to anything at all, which feels like hitting air.
01:33:993 (3) - This is almost impossible to see as a slider. I werent able to see the slider even with invisible hit300's, so I'm pretty sure people using default skin won't be able to read this either. This means that this slider is probably unrankable, and you need to fix it in one way or another.
01:39:456 (1,1) - I'm not sure why you have so many new combos here.
02:15:474 (5) - Sliders such as these are weird, because the blue tick is timed to absolutely nothing. The pattern plays much better if this were just a regular note.
02:27:048 (4,5) - It's the same problem as 01:18:900 (4,5). Shorten (4) to end at 02:27:234 and then make (5) begin at 02:27:326.
If you take a look at my replay, you'll notice how I misread the jump at 02:38:623 (1,2). This was mostly because of how identical it looks to a part I misread just right before, the squres at 02:37:141 (1,2,3,4). Instead of having 02:36:956 (11) within the square, move this somewhere else. Because it was part of the square, it looked like the whole square would be in 1/2, instead of only the first jump. When I then realized it was 1/1, I thought the next jump, which again were at about the same spacing were 1/1 as well, but alas, that was 1/2, and I missed. For the 2nd jump, reducing the spacing a little would help readability a lot. Just a little like this is enough: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/684576.
02:44:734 (2) - Add a new combo here so the numbers match for this stream and the next one (1->7 for both instead of this going rom 2->8).
Someone will tell you the stream at 02:46:215 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) is overmapped, so here we go I'll do it now
02:49:548 (3,4) - This is a pretty evil jump you got there. Consider making (3) just a note instead of a slider. The endpoint isn't timed to anything anyway (the other ones are fine as they help switching polarity).
02:54:456 (5,7) - The placement of these two notes play pretty badly. Consider making the movements smoother. Especially (7), as the spacing also looks weird.
Speaking of which, you have quite a few 1/4 sliders like 01:26:030 (9,10,11) in your map. Imo, they play okay, but they kind of break the flow a bit, as they require you to stop to hit them, and the endpoints aren't really timed to anything. Of course, as I said earlier, they help with polarity, but they still could play better imho.

This map could definitely benefit from looking neater. The guitar solo part at the beginning for example, is pretty damn awesome <3. But if you take a look, you'll notice that it has a set structure, which makes this part both look nicer and play nicer. This is why I believe that, allthough not explicitly necessary, some structure and polishing will do wonders to many of the patterns in the map. The map probably still needs a bit more work to get ranked, but it does have the potential of becoming a really fun map, so good luck!

Broccoly

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Broccoly 2013-04-02T08:15:40+00:00

Thank you very much ChXu~ I'll edit this post tomorrow after done fixing! :3

EDIT:

CXu wrote:
Hey there! Testplay of [Broccoly] requested from here.
~~https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/xemmrIl.png~~ Lol

SPOILER
Replay.

The map plays fine and it's mostly pretty fun. There are a few points I'd like to see fixed though, as some parts of the map plays a bit badly and/or weirdly.
I'm fine with most of the spacing, as it's mostly readable. Do consider to make the spacing more unified throughout the map though; it helps giving the map a more structured and polished feel.
Generally a lack of hitsounds in the diff imo. Consider adding more variance to hitsounds. Currently, a lot of parts, such as the guitar solo at the beginning, are completely void of hitsounds, wher you could follow either drums or guitar with them. This way, hitting notes will also feel much better, and feel like you're playing in the music, and not above it. Yeah,, I'm really bad at hitsounds,, I'll try ;_;
I'm not sure how much I like this pattern 00:34:734 (3,4), as I think it'll play much better if you just add a repeat on (3). Done
00:35:937 (9) - No problem with timing, but the distance here is very huge and unnatural. The spacing is almost as huge as 00:35:104 (5,6), which makes this part read as 1/2 instead of what it is, 1/4. The non-curve/smooth/whatyouwanttocallit angle from (8) to (9) also indicates a break rather than a speedup to 1/4. You really should change the shape of (9), and move the sliderhead closer to (8) for a better playing experience.Good point.. Moved around some notes. Should be better now
You have a few spinners that begin on a very audible beat, which really calls for a hitobject, such as 00:40:104 or 00:45:845. Consider shortening the first spinner by 1/4, and add a note there (you really should do this, as this is actually a downbeat). For the second spinner, you can start the spinner at 00:46:030 instead, and add a note at the red tick before to follow lyrics. Done
The slider at 00:51:215 (1) is wrong. The repeat is not timed at anything, and the slider switches from guitar to vocals, and doesn't fit. Either shorten this by 1/2, or extend by 1/2 and remove the repeat. Currently it both sounds and plays badly. Yes. Of course I knew that it doesn't fit.. but for some reason I wanted to keep it, but since it's now 3 modders who pointed this out, I'll fix.
01:18:900 (4,5) - This doesn't make much sense because of how the vocals doesn't start until 01:19:178. You should shorten (5) by 1/4. Currently, the sliderhead of (5) isn't timed to anything at all, which feels like hitting air. aha. Fixed.
01:33:993 (3) - This is almost impossible to see as a slider. I werent able to see the slider even with invisible hit300's, so I'm pretty sure people using default skin won't be able to read this either. This means that this slider is probably unrankable, and you need to fix it in one way or another. Alright. Fixed.
01:39:456 (1,1) - I'm not sure why you have so many new combos here. ah, it was to be consistent with the beginning part or ending part (the squarish long jumps and a middle note)'s combos..
02:15:474 (5) - Sliders such as these are weird, because the blue tick is timed to absolutely nothing. The pattern plays much better if this were just a regular note. Changed it to a repeating slider.
02:27:048 (4,5) - It's the same problem as 01:18:900 (4,5). Shorten (4) to end at 02:27:234 and then make (5) begin at 02:27:326. Done
If you take a look at my replay, you'll notice how I misread the jump at 02:38:623 (1,2). This was mostly because of how identical it looks to a part I misread just right before, the squres at 02:37:141 (1,2,3,4). Instead of having 02:36:956 (11) within the square, move this somewhere else. Because it was part of the square, it looked like the whole square would be in 1/2, instead of only the first jump. When I then realized it was 1/1, I thought the next jump, which again were at about the same spacing were 1/1 as well, but alas, that was 1/2, and I missed. For the 2nd jump, reducing the spacing a little would help readability a lot. Just a little like this is enough: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/684576. Thanks for specific explanations.. Fixed.
02:44:734 (2) - Add a new combo here so the numbers match for this stream and the next one (1->7 for both instead of this going rom 2->8). Done.
Someone will tell you the stream at 02:46:215 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13) is overmapped, so here we go I'll do it now T^T I worried about this.. I thought it's not that much overmapped, because there are definitely guitar in the background, and if the previous stream is ok, why not this..? Also, I think it's effective at building up the tension to the last Kiai.. I'll consider fixing it if other modders also point it out, but I'll keep it for now..
02:49:548 (3,4) - This is a pretty evil jump you got there. Consider making (3) just a note instead of a slider. The endpoint isn't timed to anything anyway (the other ones are fine as they help switching polarity). Moved the slider3 a bit down so that the tail could be placed where i'd put the circle if i changed it to the circle. The end point is not timed, but i used the slider because the vocal sustains a bit. (since it's not a staccato)
02:54:456 (5,7) - The placement of these two notes play pretty badly. Consider making the movements smoother. Especially (7), as the spacing also looks weird.
Speaking of which, you have quite a few 1/4 sliders like 01:26:030 (9,10,11) in your map. Imo, they play okay, but they kind of break the flow a bit, as they require you to stop to hit them(exactly the point of 1/4 sliders), and the endpoints aren't really timed to anything. Of course, as I said earlier, they help with polarity, but they still could play better imho.
If I put these 01:26:030 (9,10,11) - as circles, then what's the difference between that from 01:24:363 (1,2,3,4,5) - these when the vocal's gotten stronger with more musical stress? I think they deserve to make a player stop and hit them.

This map could definitely benefit from looking neater. The guitar solo part at the beginning for example, is pretty damn awesome <3. But if you take a look, you'll notice that it has a set structure, which makes this part both look nicer and play nicer. This is why I believe that, allthough not explicitly necessary, some structure and polishing will do wonders to many of the patterns in the map. The map probably still needs a bit more work to get ranked, but it does have the potential of becoming a really fun map, so good luck!

Man this is prolly the best mod I've gotten recently ;D I'll try my best to improve the patterns and stuff. Thanks a ton!

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S o h

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S o h 2013-04-04T05:35:55+00:00

captin1 wrote:
AFAIK there's no written rule that says you have to use the japanese title. So I'm gonna keep it English. Personal preference. Thanks anyways!

That's true, but you can do a favor to players that search the Japanese title instead of the translated one by at least including the romanized title in the tags:

Rosuto Wan no Goukoku

If you don't want to, that's fine.

captin1

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captin1 2013-04-04T05:54:38+00:00

Souen- wrote:
captin1 wrote:
AFAIK there's no written rule that says you have to use the japanese title. So I'm gonna keep it English. Personal preference. Thanks anyways!
That's true, but you can do a favor to players that search the Japanese title instead of the translated one by at least including the romanized title in the tags:

Rosuto Wan no Goukoku

If you don't want to, that's fine.

Ah, good point, I will do this. Thanks for the tip!

StickyPicky

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StickyPicky 2013-04-07T05:49:05+00:00

hi ~

#modreqs

[*] Suggestions only for Normal >.<

Normal
hitcircles is too large for normal, CS +1
00:04:919 add hitobject here ~
00:15:660 remove whistle or just change it to a finish ~
00:28:252 add finish ~
01:55:660 move backward the end object of the spinner here 01:56:215
02:01:400 move this controlpoint here 02:03:067 ~
02:40:845 (3) - uhh make the slider rhythm like this

SPOILER

thats all ~ btw, I like the Weeping Diff Goodjob

Goodluck ~

captin1

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captin1 2013-04-07T05:58:19+00:00

"newtoniorock8"

hi ~

#modreqs

[*] Suggestions only for Normal >.<

Normal
hitcircles is too large for normal, CS +1
00:04:919 add hitobject here ~ Eh, I disagree, don't like how it sounds
00:15:660 remove whistle or just change it to a finish ~
00:28:252 add finish ~
01:55:660 move backward the end object of the spinner here 01:56:215
02:01:400 move this controlpoint here 02:03:067 ~ doesn't really matter it's just a bookmark
02:40:845 (3) - uhh make the slider rhythm like this

SPOILER

All the rest fixed!

SPOILER

thats all ~ btw, I like the Weeping Diff Goodjob

Goodluck ~

Thanks for the mod!

StickyPicky

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StickyPicky 2013-04-07T06:51:12+00:00

02:01:400 move this controlpoint here 02:03:067 ~ doesn't really matter it's just a bookmark oh. that is not just a bookmark >.< reset the bookmarks and look,

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