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Keredna
99 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Keredna
Just thought it'll be very cool to see an animated sprite character cheering for me on the screen in all of my game plays.
And this can be customized in our skin folder.

Edit:
Here is an example of how I imagine would look like if the idea was implemented.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB3zBIUcG3Y&feature=youtu.be

Edit:
Since many people raised the issue that people could abuse this feature to cover up the background image and SB, limitations would be placed on how people could use this feature.
Some possible solutions include:
- Specific regions where these SB can be placed on the play field.
- Size limit on how big the SB can be (ex. maximum of 100x100 pix).
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deadbeat
osu! Alumni
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Joined June 2009
deadbeat
i dunno. that could easily get in the way of map SB's
Makar
osu! Alumni
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Makar
People would add a black foreground picture to block SB :/
Mercurial
Mercurial

Makar wrote:

People would add a black foreground picture to block SB :/
*raise his hand*
RBRat3
osu!painter
762 posts
Joined April 2010
RBRat3

Keredna wrote:

Just thought it'll be very cool to see an animated sprite character cheering for me on the screen in all of my game plays.
And this can be customized in our skin folder.
You could just use the slider ball and it will cheer for you every slider :P
Keredna
99 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Keredna
Lol, sounds like this idea isn't gonna sell.

RBRat3 wrote:

You could just use the slider ball and it will cheer for you every slider :P
There are a few problems I would prefer not to use use it on a sliderball over my idea:
1. Some skin elements might decrease my performance in game.
- Since my idea is for it to be in a corer (or anywhere/any size on the field if others prefer), we have more freedom to customize it to our preference.
- In real sports games, the players generally just ignore their audiences' support, but they feel more motivated just knowing that they are there for them.
2. Sliders are too short/ sprite goes everywhere; even upside down.
- Most likely, the only time I'd get to enjoy my sprite during long breaks, and since there is nothing to even look at during break (except a blank screen), it's not a bad idea to have an animated sprite at that time.

I wouldn't mind implementing your idea in a fun skin though, since I'm not playing for ranks.

deadbeat wrote:

i dunno. that could easily get in the way of map SB's
But since it's optional to implement any skin element, people can choose to have this or not.
Also, I'm pretty sure a lot of people disables the map's SB after playing through it once, so there really shouldn't be any problem.

Makar wrote:

People would add a black foreground picture to block SB :/
People can have the option to use it, so it's not really about trying to block out the SB.
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Tenacious J
77 posts
Joined September 2010
Tenacious J
With the direction this request is headed, you may as well root for Jenny's request. Only she requests availability for completely animated skins.
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
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Joined June 2009
deadbeat
*note - please try avoid triple posting. just add everything you need to in one post*

Makar wrote:

People would add a black foreground picture to block SB :/
this too, removing background is considered cheating. i'm not 100% sure, but this could fall under removing since you will never see it
Keredna
99 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Keredna

TenaciousJ728 wrote:

With the direction this request is headed, you may as well root for Jenny's request. Only she requests availability for completely animated skins.
Except I'm asking for something that's not yet available in the skin, so Jenny's request won't have any effect on what I'm requesting.

deadbeat wrote:

*note - please try avoid triple posting. just add everything you need to in one post*
Sorry, didn't know I wasn't allowed to do that.
Makar
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Makar
One of the points of peppy trying to prevent people from deleting the SBs was because work is put into them and people just delete it without seeing it. Putting things infront of the SB does the same thing.

Keredna wrote:

People can have the option to use it, so it's not really about trying to block out the SB.
People have the option now to delete BGs, and they do it, and peppy doesn't like it. This will be abused.
Keredna
99 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Keredna
Added a link to my first post of how this feature would look like if it was implemented.
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
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deadbeat
saw the video. all ready knew what you meant.

Makar wrote:

People would add a black foreground picture to block SB :/
this still stands.
theowest
osu! Alumni
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Joined January 2009
theowest
It doesn't look like she's cheering on you.

and why would anyone want that? Most people want less distractions, not more.
Sakura
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Sakura
At first i thought you wanted something like the dancers on EBA or OTO, but now i dont see the point to that.
Keredna
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Keredna
I don't actually have some sprite image that i can use to present my point right now, so that was the closest i can get.
That's actually just some desktop program I opened separately, I didn't make that myself.
Of course, if the feature was implemented, I'd use something smaller and more lively in its place.

Makar wrote:

People would add a black foreground picture to block SB :/
You guys keep saying that, but I'm starting to get more confused now.
The way I'm suggesting is that it's a feature you can "manually add" into the skin.
So i don't see why people would add this foreground picture thing to just block out another feature that doesn't even have to be added in...
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deadbeat
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deadbeat
Kerenda. we know what you want. you want a dancing loli to cheer you on while you play.
however other people won't do that. they will just SB a 800x600 black image(or whatever size) over the background. this achieves the same effect as removing the background which is now classed as cheating.
plus as theowest said, most people wouldn't want something that's distracting.
it is a interesting idea none the less, but i think osu can do without it
Keredna
99 posts
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Topic Starter
Keredna

deadbeat wrote:

plus as theowest said, most people wouldn't want something that's distracting.
it is a interesting idea none the less, but i think osu can do without it
The way you put it makes it sound like most people are strongly against the idea of SB in general, and the whole game would be better off without it. But I'm pretty sure peppy implemented the SB feature in osu for a reason; probably make this game as close to the original ouendan game as possible.

It's true that we can get by this game without these so called "distracting/unnecessary" features, but like some other people have said before, there are lots of this in this game which people can get by without. So I don't see why we can't upgrade a feature which was already implemented and make it better.
deadbeat
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deadbeat

Keredna wrote:

So I don't see why we can't upgrade a feature which was already implemented and make it better.

deadbeat wrote:

however other people won't do that. they will just SB a 800x600 black image(or whatever size) over the background. this achieves the same effect as removing the background which is now classed as cheating.
that's why
Sakura
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Sakura
tbh, for me the SBs, Videos, Backgrounds are part of the life of the game, i wouldnt mind such stuff being added as i personally would enjoy it, however if it's added it should probably also be affected by the fun spoiler settings or have a toggle in the fun spoiler settings (after first play) for others, or in the worst case scenario, something that is defined by the player him/herself and they can have it disabled should they want to.
deadbeat
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deadbeat
i guess something like that could work. but i'm still worried about the idea of sb'ing a black image. kinda defeats having the dim in a way :/
Sakura
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Sakura

deadbeat wrote:

i guess something like that could work. but i'm still worried about the idea of sb'ing a black image. kinda defeats having the dim in a way :/
Ah i see, then have the image only availaible if you've beaten the map once, or give it a size limit, or you could even have it auto-resized to a specific spot of the screen.
deadbeat
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deadbeat
the other problem is it could get in the way of a map's SB, i.e lyrics or SB names or something. maybe if it had a set area you could use that could be useful. but just letting users have whatever SB they want won't work imo.
Sakura
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Sakura
Hmm yeah that's a good point, maybe allow it only if the map doesnt have a storyboard? I'm kinda running out of ideas here...

at least EBA and OTO had their dancers and playfield on the bottom screen while the storyboard was in the top one.
deadbeat
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deadbeat
EDIT: i was thinking of having the skin sb under the main SB. however that doesn't solve the black image problem. unless something can think of a modified version of this what would work
being sleepy keep making me change my mind xD
deadbeat
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deadbeat

deadbeat wrote:

maybe if it had a set area you could use that could be useful.

deadbeat wrote:

EDIT: i was thinking of having the skin sb under the main SB.
what if instead of a set area, what about a set size, like every other skin element, and disable the grow/enlarge code. that could work since the skin SB would then be under any map SB's and wouldn't allow a single image to fill the whole screen. could that work?

excuse the double post
Keredna
99 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Keredna

deadbeat wrote:

Keredna wrote:

So I don't see why we can't upgrade a feature which was already implemented and make it better.

deadbeat wrote:

however other people won't do that. they will just SB a 800x600 black image(or whatever size) over the background. this achieves the same effect as removing the background which is now classed as cheating.
that's why
OOOHHHH. Now I see what you mean. I was confused with what this foreground you guys were talking about the whole time.
If you put it that way, I do see the problem to my feature request. Now I gotta think of a way to get around that. =/
deadbeat
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deadbeat
umm...i just did find a way around it. my previous post is the only way i can think of this working. i might be able to think of something else after a nice sleep. but for now, that's the best bet of this working. unless someone else has another idea?
Keredna
99 posts
Joined December 2009
Topic Starter
Keredna
Added some new things to to my first post.
Included some problems people have made along the discussion as well as possible solutions.
Keredna
99 posts
Joined December 2009
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Keredna
I just thought of two other ways to deal with the black foreground issue:
- Force the SB into certain % of transparency and can't be changed.
- Can't activate this feature until play through the map once, since by then we can already dim the background and disable map's SB.

Let me know what you guys think and I'll decide whether to add to my first post.
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