Ebwop:
That means Census Taker could be alive. If so, please claim!
That means Census Taker could be alive. If so, please claim!
NoHitter wrote:
Vote: Makar
After reading the thread, Makar seems the most anti-town.
This reminds me to when I voted Makar. Not only did he vote JInxy quickly, but after I voted him, he also immediately unvoted JInxy as if to cue me to unvote him.
IMO, quickly wanting to get rid of someone's suspicion like that is suspicious in itself. Again, this was because I missed many parts of the beginning thread due to inactivity, but I do see what you are pointing out and can't blame you. Your vote for me the first time let me know that I should of read over the thread -completely-
Although, I thought Rantai was concentrating on the fact that me and JInxy were mafia, his "reconsideration" when bmin brought out the possibility of the Census Taker being able to confirm everyone seems to have genuine townie intentions. Agreed here
bmin's thoughts on how the Census Taker claiming could confirm also seems very townie to me. His thoughts were my thoughts basically
Another reason why I think Makar is the least townie, he didn't participate that much in the discussion regarding Census Taker being alive. He only said that it would be "useless", which ironically would be true since the Census Taker was really dead. Basically, it was as if Makar already knew Census Taker was dead. I gave suggestions on what to do if the census taker wasnt dead and said it wouldn't be a good idea since there is a -possibility- he was dead and didnt have a good way to confirm it. Besides, how is mafia supposed to know the census taker is dead? As Nyquill comfirmed, the mafia do not know the role of the people they kill. At this point and after what has been said, I do believe JInxy is cop and that lyby was the rolecop (since he turned up mafia and its the only role that would do so). Therefore, even if Lyby investigated the census taker N0 (which I assume is the only way the mafia can know who he is and kill), the godfather doesn't know the result since he died D1 (unless mafia can talk during the day?). It surprises me that you turn down Rantai's suggestion due to mafia not knowing who they kill yet you bring this possibility up with me.
Last night, I investigated kanye; he was Doctor.
Ebwop:LIDE -> LIED
That means Census Taker could be alive. If so, please claim!
Triple post:TREU -> TRUE Lincolm IS Census Taker
Right now, if census taker is alive, we can confirm almost EVERYONE'S role.
Unless though, if Lincolm/pieguy IS the Census Taker.
No. Mafia only has night chat in this game.NoHitter wrote:
Mod: Does Mafia have Daychat?
True, but if you remember, NoHitter was late to CC, which is what strikes me odd.JInxyjem wrote:
I think there's a possibility that hitter did bus lyby, but that would have required quite a lot of planning beforehand since they couldn't have talked D1. What stumps me is why lybydose would claim coroner if he could genuinely be counterclaimed.
If Lyby was the Rolecop, he very well could of invested kanye and found out he was (in this case) coroner. So then, Lyby would know what to roleclaim if he was investigated by the town cop and NoHitter could CC coroner (if accusing the town cop didnt go well or seemed too risky) without a problem even on D1 (unless the doctor succeeded N0, which he didn't). It seems like Lyby only brought up this possibility because he thought of it himself and try to accuse somebody else of doing the same thing. This could also be a reason for his fakeclaiming on his ability D3 -> to ensure the role he wanted to "find" from a lynched person isn't still alive.Lybydose wrote:
because you probably investigated the same person you killed and found that he was the cop.
Actually, it was 3 votes to hammer, so maybe you could of avoided voting at the last second due to riskJInxyjem wrote:
I would have voted Makar considering that would have ended the game if bmin didn't vote instead of letting him die. I believe this should prove lybydose was the mafia and I'm the cop, unless you have a different idea.
I understand why you would be suspicious of him, but I think his thoughts and acts were town and that is all we have to go on.JInxyjem wrote:
And for me, Makar null vs you who I'm suspicious of because you were so suspicious on me and hitter. Well.
Actually that vote could have gone either way (well that's how I perceive it). On one hand, considering the inactivity, Makar was as good as lynched even with my vote so you may not have had any reason to join Hitter on the vote lest that start raising suspicions because you'd have to provide reasons other than parroting Hitter, which I think wouldn't be as easy if you're trying to bs your way through it.JInxyjem wrote:
and if I were mafia with Hitter, I would have voted Makar considering that would have ended the game if bmin didn't vote instead of letting him die. I believe this should prove lybydose was the mafia and I'm the cop, unless you have a different idea.
Well, let me share you my thoughts on this: IF NoHitter is actually Mafia, the game would be over now if I didn't try to prevent a mislynch on town (since there is obviously still one mafia). At the time, I only thought of this because I also had the thought that bmin could of been mafia due to much inactivity and lack to provide useful information even though my post thoughts only mentioned stuff about NoHitter. (edit) Basically, there was not enough time and discussion to make a confident decision, so might as well prevent a possibility.Rantai wrote:
On the other hand, Makar did a ninja save vote on Hitter. Though the weird thing is that he ran the very real risk that we would not get another extension but still didn't vote before the original deadline.
I'm not sure I get this part. You voted NoHitter because you secretly suspected bmin while you were mentioning stuff about NoHitter?Makar wrote:
Well, let me share you my thoughts on this: IF NoHitter is actually Mafia, the game would be over now if I didn't try to prevent a mislynch on town (since there is obviously still one mafia). At the time, I only thought of this because I also had the thought that bmin could of been mafia due to much inactivity and lack to provide useful information even though my post thoughts only mentioned stuff about NoHitter. (edit) Basically, there was not enough time and discussion to make a confident decision, so might as well prevent a possibility.
Just now:Makar wrote:
At this point and after what has been said, I do believe JInxy is cop and that lyby was the rolecop (since he turned up mafia and its the only role that would do so).
But really, there is an absolutely horrible lack of information, I don't know what else there is.Makar wrote:
EDIT: yeaaah iunno. Considering where we are now and the events on D1, NoHitter+Jinx against lyby seems more possible than before. I just wish we had more information orz
If I understand it, he's saying that he didn't suspect you of being mafia bec- wait what. Actually re reading that, he's saying that he believed you were cop but bmin may have been a second mafia with Hitter, hence lynching Hitter to prevent a game over. Which would create a massive paradox because unless you're a terrible cop and lied about your result then there would be no way of having bmin as mafia if Hitter is mafia.JInxyjem wrote:
I'm not sure I get this part. You voted NoHitter because you secretly suspected bmin while you were mentioning stuff about NoHitter?Makar wrote:
Big quote.
Honestly, at that point in time, you were pretty much the only one that was still suspicious. If I was mafia with Hitter, I still could easily vote Makar. Even if you had called it out, the only way to stop a mafia win would have been to convince bmin. I didn't vote Makar because I did think of how hitter might have bussed.Rantai wrote:
Actually that vote could have gone either way (well that's how I perceive it). On one hand, considering the inactivity, Makar was as good as lynched even with my vote so you may not have had any reason to join Hitter on the vote lest that start raising suspicions because you'd have to provide reasons other than parroting Hitter, which I think wouldn't be as easy if you're trying to bs your way through it.
Exactly. This game should have been won by town.Lybydose wrote:
I don't even