If you aren't using a red switch keyboard, you're a casual.
Since when?Wishy22 wrote:
Most top players use blue though.
this was so true like a year ago when red switches weren't available anywhereKyou-kun wrote:
If you aren't using a red switch keyboard, you're a casual.
it still cost me so goddamn much it was unrealWishy22 wrote:
Or you either were in some country where EliteKeyboards would ship a goddamn keyboard. XD
thelewa wrote:
150€ for a keyboard holy fucking shit
Don't worry about that, you can get reds very cheaply nowadays, maybe even cheaper than blackwidowPacemaker wrote:
Meh, probs just gonna get a BlackWidow then. While it's good to find your own style of playing, you can't deny the fact that many of the guys considered the top are using one as well. I'd love to try Reds, but...thelewa wrote:
150€ for a keyboard holy fucking shit
However the combination of their high actuation force and close operating/reset points make them easier for double tapping. I've tried Blacks myself and they're much better than Blues for me.Wishy22 wrote:
Cookiezi, White Wolf, Niko-. KeigoClear, and pretty sure Rucker too use blue switches (BlackWidow).
Black ones are too hard compared to blue/red/brown.
That's funny cause I've tried reds and blacks and they are worse than blues for me.Frizz925 wrote:
However the combination of their high actuation force and close operating/reset points make them easier for double tapping. I've tried Blacks myself and they're much better than Blues for me.Wishy22 wrote:
Cookiezi, White Wolf, Niko-. KeigoClear, and pretty sure Rucker too use blue switches (BlackWidow).
Black ones are too hard compared to blue/red/brown.
Also don't forget that val0108 uses Blacks too.
Blues are great for gaming and good for typing. I prefer them over any other switch. It's really a matter of personal choice, because the switches really are about just adjusting key presses to your comfort level. If you're getting BlackWidow, might I also recomend you look into Cool Master Quickfire Rapid, a great competitor for the BlackWidow.Pacemaker wrote:
Meh, probs just gonna get a BlackWidow then. While it's good to find your own style of playing, you can't deny the fact that many of the guys considered the top are using one as well. I'd love to try Reds, but...
Red Switches make you stream 270 instantly RIGHT LEWA? -wink wink-IppE wrote:
RED SWITCHES DA BESSS!!!!11!1!1!!1111
Fuck my life, I want that blue switch version, but they don't sell it in Finland. They only sell the version that has red switches.WASSHOI wrote:
Blues are great for gaming and good for typing. I prefer them over any other switch. It's really a matter of personal choice, because the switches really are about just adjusting key presses to your comfort level. If you're getting BlackWidow, might I also recomend you look into Cool Master Quickfire Rapid, a great competitor for the BlackWidow.
If you really want reds, then there's also a slightly more expensive red switch version of it too.
That's because Razor products are built in Chinese sweatshops and occasionally have build issues. My old keyboard was a Razor Arctosa and the left shift key's spring came out of place after about a month of use. Lots of Razor products have random build issues, from my personal experience as well as online testimonials.N y a r u k o wrote:
I bought my BlackWidow a while ago because it didn't seem all that expensive compared to the other keyboards. It feels great, but when it came my spacebar was loose and kind of came off; afterwards I put it back on and its completely functional. My 1 key is easily removable as well, but still completely functional. Despite those complications, it's a great keyboard and worth the money
Black switches are HARD to press, which reduces your potential endurance.Frizz925 wrote:
However the combination of their high actuation force and close operating/reset points make them easier for double tapping. I've tried Blacks myself and they're much better than Blues for me.Wishy22 wrote:
Cookiezi, White Wolf, Niko-. KeigoClear, and pretty sure Rucker too use blue switches (BlackWidow).
Black ones are too hard compared to blue/red/brown.
Also don't forget that val0108 uses Blacks too.
I broke a BlackWidow by hitting it onceWASSHOI wrote:
That's because Razor products are built in Chinese sweatshops and occasionally have build issues. My old keyboard was a Razor Arctosa and the left shift key's spring came out of place after about a month of use. Lots of Razor products have random build issues, from my personal experience as well as online testimonials.N y a r u k o wrote:
I bought my BlackWidow a while ago because it didn't seem all that expensive compared to the other keyboards. It feels great, but when it came my spacebar was loose and kind of came off; afterwards I put it back on and its completely functional. My 1 key is easily removable as well, but still completely functional. Despite those complications, it's a great keyboard and worth the money
Quickfire Rapids are Costar built, same company that makes other high quality mechanical keyboards such as Filcos. Only problem with Quickfire Rapid is their obnoxious logo placed all over the keyboard.
I don't think the endurance hit is actually that noticeable personally but maybe that's because I have never tried blues. Really I think any mech KB will do. Me myself didn't notice any change between mech and rubber dome until a few days in, now I can't stand rubber domes.Wishy22 wrote:
Black switches are HARD to press, which reduces your potential endurance.Frizz925 wrote:
However the combination of their high actuation force and close operating/reset points make them easier for double tapping. I've tried Blacks myself and they're much better than Blues for me.
Also don't forget that val0108 uses Blacks too.
Just saying, Razer isn't exactly known for quality builds. They advertise like hell to get their name around, and BlackWidow is actually a good keyboard, but it's always good to look at what competitors offer in the same price range. Rapid Fire overall receives better reviews all around with less complaints of defects and such.thelewa wrote:
I broke a BlackWidow by hitting it once
RAZER = QUALITY
It all depends on the person. Black switches really aren't that hard to press, atleast for me. And trust me, I can stream fairly well, as well as keep decent accuracy.Wishy22 wrote:
Black switches are HARD to press, which reduces your potential endurance.
I have those but I'd rather have blue switches since they are softer.Espionage724 wrote:
Buckling Spring on IBM Model M = best*
*best if you like noise, tactile feedback, and a decent amount of force needed to press the key down
Why is that? Since Cookiezi and Rucker play with a tablet, does that mean that anyone with a tablet will be as good as them? Ofcourse not. IIRC even Doomsday said that he tried tablet and didn't like it and went back to mouse. Everyone is different and noone is really missing out on anything here.WASSHOI wrote:
but in the end if you get a certain switch that everyone states is the "best" and don't personally enjoy it then you're just missing out in the end.
I think everyone has a problem with those. :>Wishy22 wrote:
long fast streams
Fun fact, exactly the same here. Except that I have a 7G, because 6GV2 is like impossible to get here haha.Wishy22 wrote:
Tom94 who has a 6gv2 and as I said (he told me this) he can't really hold fast streams for long, his burst speed is fast but he gets tired of long streams. A single rare case isn't really proof of anything though since afaik he's circumstances are special (he played the piano for a decade and shit, meaning he pretty much worked out his fingers for a while already hah).
Blue switches are HARDER to press thanks to its tactile clicky nature, it requires the user to put it in a lot more force into them before they actually reach their actuation point. Leave alone the peak force of both switches.Wishy22 wrote:
Black switches are HARD to press, which reduces your potential endurance.Frizz925 wrote:
However the combination of their high actuation force and close operating/reset points make them easier for double tapping. I've tried Blacks myself and they're much better than Blues for me.
Also don't forget that val0108 uses Blacks too.
Looks neat, but unfortunately, those aren't available anywhere in Germany, so the shipping costs could end ub being quite a pain lolWASSHOI wrote:
If you're getting BlackWidow, might I also recomend you look into Cool Master Quickfire Rapid, a great competitor for the BlackWidow.
If you really want reds, then there's also a slightly more expensive red switch version of it too.
I can't really tell if the Blues are any softer than the Blacks, since the clicking mechanism supposedly makes it harder. Also, I have yet to play a song that really has my finger-fatigue kick in, but I know for a fact that eventually this will be the case, and because of that I'm a bit scared of getting Blacks.Wishy22 wrote:
But still, softer switches = less effort required = better endurance, which in the end is just a good help if you can get used to it.
I worded this wrongly. What I meant was you are the only one missing out in the end (because you purchased switches that you're not comfortable with just because everyone said they're "the best.")lolcubes wrote:
Why is that? Since Cookiezi and Rucker play with a tablet, does that mean that anyone with a tablet will be as good as them? Ofcourse not. IIRC even Doomsday said that he tried tablet and didn't like it and went back to mouse. Everyone is different and noone is really missing out on anything here.WASSHOI wrote:
but in the end if you get a certain switch that everyone states is the "best" and don't personally enjoy it then you're just missing out in the end.
Wrong.Frizz925 wrote:
Blue switches are HARDER to press thanks to its tactile clicky nature, it requires the user to put it in a lot more force into them before they actually reach their actuation point. Leave alone the peak force of both switches.
And just wanted to add that you don't always need tactility to not bottom-out, if you know the right force needed to register keys without bottoming-out that is.