Guest
home
beatmaps
rankings
community
store
help
forum
  1. Forums
  2. osu!
  3. Gameplay & Rankings

osu! Std players: What makes you held back from using FL mod?

posted
Total Posts
113

What makes you held back from using Flashlight mod?

Not good at memorizing
91
35.00%
Getting nervous at higher combo (where the visible area gets smaller)
83
31.92%
Waste of time
70
26.92%
Others... (please post)
16
6.15%
Total votes: 260
show more
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo
Used to dislike the idea of FL, but lately it actually feels like a cool mod; Here is why

Just imagine it, fast forward to the future in your osu playtime, in many many plays from now you're a player like azuraer, who can S (or SS) any map on his first try. Every week there's about 30~ new maps that are worth playing, you S all of them in like 2 hours, now what? What if you played osu a little on thursday and on friday, and then felt like playing a little more on saturday... but you've already S'd every single map worth playing. Now what?

Playing old maps again normally would be boring, and not everybody likes to grind for SS; so at this point, the challenge of trying to memorize a map you like as fast as possible can actually be interesting, because you'll pretty much be stuck playing only maps you already passed anyway, so why not add a new challenge to it.

...but if somebody only uses FL to get a top score in the rankings it's p.lame
Last edited by Aqo , edited 1 time in total.
Tidek
1,571 posts
Joined March 2011
Tidek
FL only on songs which i very like. I dont want use DT and destroy my favourite songs ;<
Tsukimi Luna
726 posts
Joined July 2010
Tsukimi Luna
Well I think FL is a cool mod

FL = great for fun but impossible to FC if >250 combos orz

What i normally do is either FL and play for fun
FL is also a good way to kill everyone in multi except for yourself ^^

Or SS (FL + DT + HR) on easy/normal songs with <200 combos or 250 combos to get to the top 40s which is easy for the fun of it
ReVeNg3r
660 posts
Joined August 2010
ReVeNg3r

Yuu-Chii wrote:

Or SS (FL + DT + HR) on easy/normal songs
no respect
eldnl
Former osu!catch Champion: 2013
2,930 posts
Joined March 2010
eldnl
who said that moving your fingers faster is skill? because that's easy, I'm a ctb player and I can do 220bpm maps perfectly (obviously not long streams) and I'm sure that practicing it I could get even better ... I hate flashlight haters really, because FL requires skill too, obviously your first map with FL will take a lot of retries, but I'm sure if you play with FL constantly it will be a lot easier compared with your first hard FL map ... what is that? SKILL :D
thelewa
3,537 posts
Joined August 2010
thelewa
But 220bpm maps in CTB don't require you to press buttons 14.6 times in a second during streams

Also it's not about streams, it's about the jumps, those are the the ones that actually require skill
eldnl
Former osu!catch Champion: 2013
2,930 posts
Joined March 2010
eldnl

thelewa wrote:

But 220bpm maps in CTB don't require you to press buttons 14.6 times in a second during streams

Also it's not about streams, it's about the jumps, those are the the ones that actually require skill
I mean 220bpm in standard obviously, and also, the jumps are easy too if you have a good mouse or tablet, which I haven't and that's why I don't play standard :c
G0r
389 posts
Joined September 2011
G0r
I never understood why people made streams out to be such a big deal. I have never once felt like streaming was a hard mechanic in this game. There are so many things that are harder to do than streaming.
Remonwater
53 posts
Joined June 2012
Remonwater

G0r wrote:

I never understood why people made streams out to be such a big deal. I have never once felt like streaming was a hard mechanic in this game. There are so many things that are harder to do than streaming.
people are better at certain things i guess :)

i myself don't mind streams and would take streams over jumps anyday
thelewa
3,537 posts
Joined August 2010
thelewa

eldnl wrote:

I mean 220bpm in standard obviously, and also, the jumps are easy too if you have a good mouse or tablet, which I haven't and that's why I don't play standard :c
No no no, you can't say that the jumps are easy if you haven't actually tried them with a tablet or a mouse
hinamizawan
868 posts
Joined May 2010
hinamizawan
Because it is too boring and difficult to play the same map >9k.
G0r
389 posts
Joined September 2011
G0r

makkura wrote:

Because it is too boring and difficult to play the same map >9k.
What!? NINE THOUSAND!?
Tsukimi Luna
726 posts
Joined July 2010
Tsukimi Luna

ReVeNg3r wrote:

Yuu-Chii wrote:

Or SS (FL + DT + HR) on easy/normal songs
no respect
Problem? o3o

But meh i dont do it for pp or what shit
I just do it on my fav songs when im bored~
winber1
4,520 posts
Joined February 2010
winber1

makkura wrote:

Because it is too boring and difficult to play the same map >9k.
eldnl
Former osu!catch Champion: 2013
2,930 posts
Joined March 2010
eldnl

thelewa wrote:

eldnl wrote:

I mean 220bpm in standard obviously, and also, the jumps are easy too if you have a good mouse or tablet, which I haven't and that's why I don't play standard :c
No no no, you can't say that the jumps are easy if you haven't actually tried them with a tablet or a mouse
28k standard plays, trust me, I did ...
winber1
4,520 posts
Joined February 2010
winber1
Having a good mouse or tablet does not make you better at anything in osu...?

In what way could a better mouse (or a better tablet) help you at all? Perhaps if you play mouse only, then the way your mouse clicks could be important, but other than that, you only need a cheap mouse that fits your hand and that has a working laser... same with tablet, it just needs to work. My tablet for example is pretty low end, one of the most basic ones out there.
thelewa
3,537 posts
Joined August 2010
thelewa
Yeah mouse only is basically the only playstyle where a good mouse actually benefits you, kriers' words.

Tablets don't really make a difference as long as the latency is fine, which it is in all of the cheap Bamboo tablets
Mesita
221 posts
Joined November 2009
Mesita

winber1 wrote:

Having a good mouse or tablet does not make you better at anything in osu...?

In what way could a better mouse (or a better tablet) help you at all? Perhaps if you play mouse only, then the way your mouse clicks could be important, but other than that, you only need a cheap mouse that fits your hand and that has a working laser... same with tablet, it just needs to work. My tablet for example is pretty low end, one of the most basic ones out there.
good mouse over cheap mouse makes a huge difference when it comes to jumps and precision.
G0r
389 posts
Joined September 2011
G0r

Mesita wrote:

winber1 wrote:

Having a good mouse or tablet does not make you better at anything in osu...?

In what way could a better mouse (or a better tablet) help you at all? Perhaps if you play mouse only, then the way your mouse clicks could be important, but other than that, you only need a cheap mouse that fits your hand and that has a working laser... same with tablet, it just needs to work. My tablet for example is pretty low end, one of the most basic ones out there.
good mouse over cheap mouse makes a huge difference when it comes to jumps and precision.
Agree.
winber1
4,520 posts
Joined February 2010
winber1
I really don't see how. As long as the cheap mouse doesn't have a faulty laser and doesn't have weird lag, it should be fine?

Also, howw "good' would you consider a deathadder? Because I honestly don't see any difference between that and my original broken $10 (or something close to that) mouse
Mesita
221 posts
Joined November 2009
Mesita

winber1 wrote:

I really don't see how. As long as the cheap mouse doesn't have a faulty laser and doesn't have weird lag, it should be fine?

Also, howw "good' would you consider a deathadder? Because I honestly don't see any difference between that and my original broken $10 (or something close to that) mouse
cheap mouse don't read properly at high speed movements, and most of them have jitter. So if you want to use low sensitivity for control, u won't be able to do fast arm movements.
A deathadder is a good mouse, but i doesn't last much if u are a hardcore gamer that uses it everyday (mouseclicks are very low end).
Wishy
2,974 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy
Good mouses do help a lot, every friend I have that used to play with a shit generic mouse switched to Razer/SS mouses and they got better quite fast after getting used to it.
Jordan
1,037 posts
Joined December 2010
Jordan
I have a question: What's the real difference between a generic mouse and a gaming mouse?

I'm using the mouse I got with my PC (it's worth like 7€) and overpolling it to 1000hz did a HUGE difference. It is worth buying a gaming mouse when my generic one is already overpolled to 1000hz (1ms lag) ?
G0r
389 posts
Joined September 2011
G0r
Polling adjustment is great, but the real thing that matters is DPI. You can't adjust DPI on a standard consumer mouse. You can, however, adjust DPI on a gaming mouse. Without DPI adjustment, you have no control over how your tool functions, and thus you are adjusting to the tool, rather than adjusting the tool to you. It's also worth noting that the tracking on gaming mice is generally light years better.
billy96
589 posts
Joined April 2011
billy96
I tend to get nervous after getting around 100-200 combos and i can only memorize a beatmap that last for 1-2 minutes, but that's where the fun part begin.


Flashlight sometimes make me remember those horror games ._.
Espionage724
876 posts
Joined August 2011
Espionage724

Wishy22 wrote:

Good mouses do help a lot, every friend I have that used to play with a shit generic mouse switched to Razer/SS mouses and they got better quite fast after getting used to it.
How would a Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000 rank? It uses BlueTrack technology, but I can't recall how that stands against optical or laser...
djjsixpack
162 posts
Joined September 2011
djjsixpack
Takes too long to memorize a map, not as fun as other mods.
Sarthorious
Sarthorious
It's just not exiting.. why would I play with FL and memorize all these fucking notes -.-.. A better thing would be learn kanjis xD
Espionage724
876 posts
Joined August 2011
Espionage724

whoKnow wrote:

It's just not exiting.. why would I play with FL and memorize all these fucking notes -.-.. A better thing would be learn kanjis xD
/agree
Winshley
osu! Alumni
2,384 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Winshley

whoKnow wrote:

why would I play with FL and memorize all these fucking notes -.-..
If that's what you think, you can call me a no-lifer then. :P

(Yes, I'm a person who spams on Retry button lol)
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo

Winshley wrote:

whoKnow wrote:

why would I play with FL and memorize all these fucking notes -.-..
If that's what you think, you can call me a no-lifer then. :P

(Yes, I'm a person who spams on Retry button lol)
Winshley your dedication is something on the level of a top pro, but you're shooting yourself in the foot by spending all of this time on low-diffs. If you spent little time on playing harder diffs without caring about score and then once you got confident with them you started aiming for SS+FL on Insanes instead of Normals you'd be able to get into top pro level much faster.
Winshley
osu! Alumni
2,384 posts
Joined May 2011
Topic Starter
Winshley

Aqo wrote:

Winshley your dedication is something on the level of a top pro, but you're shooting yourself in the foot by spending all of this time on low-diffs. If you spent little time on playing harder diffs without caring about score and then once you got confident with them you started aiming for SS+FL on Insanes instead of Normals you'd be able to get into top pro level much faster.
I understand that. I do want to play Insane maps, I just need an ample amount of free time (which is holiday) to play such maps... ;<
sCam
215 posts
Joined December 2011
sCam
I'm not good at this game yet. When I get good, I'll start messing around with mods.
nomen
539 posts
Joined March 2012
nomen

sCam wrote:

I'm not good at this game yet. When I get good, I'll start messing around with mods.
You will improve faster if you use mods such as HR or DT.
Thatgooey
165 posts
Joined November 2011
Thatgooey
Everyone has their own fun aspect of the game that makes it appealing. I am not a memorization player. I like playing high AR maps and fast maps. Pushing visual and physical speed boundaries is just funner to me than pushing memory boundaries. I don't care if that makes me a good or bad player, that's just what I enjoy doing. There is nothing wrong at all with flashlight mod, and there are plenty of players who's main enjoyment comes from memorizing maps. FL mod seems way more common in the easy/normal/hard difficulty range, but I do not prefer those maps, personally. There are only a handful of true flashlight players, meaning ones that will do the highest difficulty maps (Mesita and BenJip come to mind, but I know there are others!). Nothing against people who like doing the easy/normal maps, but flashlight mod is much simpler on those maps. The patterns are very similar in most every song, with notes falling only on up and down beats. There are also only a couple hundred notes per map to learn. Doing flashlight mod on insane difficulty maps takes a LOT of work, and most players only want to put a handful of tries into a lot of maps. Watching Mesita put in hundreds of plays into just one map to get a hidden/FL results in an epic end product. Flashlight on maps like Gold Dust and Masterpiece is impressive as hell. But the majority of people don't have the patience to sit down and pick one or two really hard maps per week to sit down and try and get a full clear with hd/FL. Again, I am speaking on behalf of insane difficulties and not normal/easy/hard maps.
sCam
215 posts
Joined December 2011
sCam

nomen wrote:

sCam wrote:

I'm not good at this game yet. When I get good, I'll start messing around with mods.
You will improve faster if you use mods such as HR or DT.
Thanks for the advice, but I'm in no rush to improve. I plan on spending the rest of my life on Osu.

I also agree with thatgooey. I love Mesita replays, specially on Rapid Ensemble. Also loved how he still remembered the map after months to take back his #1 from Micia.
nomen
539 posts
Joined March 2012
nomen

sCam wrote:

I plan on spending the rest of my life on Osu.
I giggled.
Anyway ontopic: I have no fun playing map over and over to memorize it.
Ruidoso
236 posts
Joined November 2010
Ruidoso
I have achluophobia lol
Mythras
255 posts
Joined February 2010
Mythras
Because by the time i finish a map on flashlight i feel like throwing myself off a fucking building. I got a top rank with flashlight, guy stole it and id rather drag my nuts across a cactus than take it back. Not too fond of hidden either lol. I dunno how so many people have the patience to deal with that shit.
Aqo
2,710 posts
Joined April 2010
Aqo

Unkind wrote:

Not too fond of hidden either lol. I dunno how so many people have the patience to deal with that shit.
But hidden is actually readable on reaction :d you just need to get used to remember the upcoming relative timings on notes based on the times they appear and to read combo numbers fast for slider starts and for stacks. Hidden is very very fun <3
show more
Please sign in to reply.

New reply

0
55 / 113