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Make RC more clear regarding spread.

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Ashton
Hello everybody,


As many of us know the ranking spread goes as follows:

...lower than 3:30, the lowest difficulty of each included game mode cannot be harder than a Normal. Because osu!mania does not have a difficulty-specific Ranking Criteria yet, an osu!mania beatmapset's Normal difficulty is defined as a difficulty below 2.00 stars. For hybrid beatmapsets that include osu! difficulties, the additional modes' lowest difficulties cannot be harder than a Hard.
...between 3:30 and 4:15, the lowest difficulty of each included game mode cannot be harder than a Hard.
...between 4:15 and 5:00, the lowest difficulty of each included game mode cannot be harder than an Insane.
...anything higher, the beatmapset is exempt from reasonable spread rules.

I have no issue with these however I think it becomes a tad muddy when we talk about "harder than a hard", "harder than an insane", or the more commonly one that I personally struggle with "harder than a normal".


The guideline for Normal already has this: "¹ If you have an Easy, make sure your Normal is a bit harder than your Easy, of course. If you do not have an Easy, you should still make your Normal suitable for beginners. A 1.6-1.7 star Normal will comfortably make up for an Easy.

² Well, unless you spam 1/4 sliders everywhere. Or shoehorn 1/2 sliders in for that matter. Certain BAT members have been known to rage via PMs over this sort of thing."


To me this could be a bit misleading. It's understandable, but at first glance I'd consider anything in the realm of Normals would be considered OK as the lowest difficulty, however as mentioned avove, it seems that you need to make an "easy-normal" or easier than the average normal for it to be the lowest difficulty?


I'm not going to get into whether or not this should be the case, however I do think adjusting the RC to mention that if a Normal is used as the lowest difficulty that it must be easier than the average Normal. Or simply allow any suitable Normal as the lowest difficulty.
JayBone

Ashton wrote:

To me this could be a bit misleading. It's understandable, but at first glance I'd consider anything in the realm of Normals would be considered OK as the lowest difficulty, however as mentioned avove, it seems that you need to make an "easy-normal" or easier than the average normal for it to be the lowest difficulty?


The guideline you provide is pretty outdated, considering it still quotes the BAT. A more clear cut criteria can be found here that provides more modern guidelines on normal diffs, less bound to an arbitrary star rating. Even if you were to still base it off of star rating, most (if no, all) recently ranked normal diffs are above 2* anyway. To answer your question, you don't need an "easier than the average normal" normal diff in order to fulfill the spread requirement. The page you referenced should definitely be updated, but that can be worried about when someone gets around to it.
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Ashton

JayBone wrote:

Ashton wrote:

To me this could be a bit misleading. It's understandable, but at first glance I'd consider anything in the realm of Normals would be considered OK as the lowest difficulty, however as mentioned avove, it seems that you need to make an "easy-normal" or easier than the average normal for it to be the lowest difficulty?


The guideline you provide is pretty outdated, considering it still quotes the BAT. A more clear cut criteria can be found here that provides more modern guidelines on normal diffs, less bound to an arbitrary star rating. Even if you were to still base it off of star rating, most (if no, all) recently ranked normal diffs are above 2* anyway. To answer your question, you don't need an "easier than the average normal" normal diff in order to fulfill the spread requirement. The page you referenced should definitely be updated, but that can be worried about when someone gets around to it.


Thank you for linking me to the updated guidelines. I was a little confused with the other ones.
pishifat
seems like this might be resolved? the wiki page quoted in the op is not part of the ranking criteria
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