Miya wrote:

Someone will complain about it. I suggest to just follow the rule if you don't want to avoid any problem like this

Frostmourne wrote:

A Short Version is something that is featured in the source. For example, an OP for an anime is labeled (TV Size), similarly, an OP for a visual novel is labeled (Short Ver.).

Conclusion: from all this, I'd like to propose a rule/guideline that will help make labeling songs more consistent. In general, simply do not add (Short Ver.) or (TV Size) if the song didn't come with it. While this may not be a big issue now, with more and more maps being labeled randomly, there will be a large inconsistency between the two.

Miya wrote:

I agree this is silly rule. But well rule is a rule, and i have warning you. Good luck~

Andrea wrote:

I'm still confused myself either about this rule.

For now keep it, we will see how this ends.

eldnl wrote:

[General]

01:30:505 - I'm getting a different offsets here, yours seems a bit earlier, try +43ms
01:41:640 - Same as above, feels too earlier again, try +44ms - with offset all right. pls listen carefully
Please use a volume of 60% on this parts 00:32:248 - 01:30:505 - they feel really low. - I think the volume is normal, but I'll take this recommendation note.


[Easy]

00:17:946 - Remove clap here, feels like is not the rhythm that you're following, this commonly happens on difficulties that doesn't have much notes. - fixed
00:19:342 - Remove here too, there isn't a clap in the song. - fixed
00:57:713 (1) - Remove the clap here, feels better because the drums change here. - changed them a little bit differently. fixed.

[Normal]

01:16:916 (1) - I'm pretty sure you should remove the new combo here and add it in the next note, because you're following the voice. Same as all other difficulties. - at least so it seems to you, but I follow the rhythm of musical instruments

[Hard]

00:21:086 (4) - Add the new combo here and remove it in the next note, to be consistent with the other difficulties, and also feels really weird. - I'm sorry, but I think it's all right
01:07:498 (6) - This slider feels too close to the previous note, I suggest to increase the distance a bit. - I do not guess where it can move, I will be glad if you can show your options.
01:29:649 (1) - Strongly suggest to move this slider a bit to the right, because the jump is a bit unexpected, at least for me. - fixed

[Insane]

There are some minor changes that I could mention but I'll probably be killing your style, really nice difficulty. -ty

I'll catch someone to check the offsets.

Ephemeral wrote:

this is largely ignored as a guideline and all variants of the ver. tag in song/beatmap names look extremely poor and out of place.

accordingly, this guideline is now considered as a rule and maps that violate it henceforth are candidates for unranking.

Verlaren wrote:

eldnl wrote:

[Normal]

01:16:916 (1) - I'm pretty sure you should remove the new combo here and add it in the next note, because you're following the voice. Same as all other difficulties. - at least so it seems to you, but I follow the rhythm of musical instruments

[Hard]

00:21:086 (4) - Add the new combo here and remove it in the next note, to be consistent with the other difficulties, and also feels really weird. - I'm sorry, but I think it's all right
01:07:498 (6) - This slider feels too close to the previous note, I suggest to increase the distance a bit. - I do not guess where it can move, I will be glad if you can show your options.


I'll catch someone to check the offsets.

Thank you for mod.

Updated.

eldnl wrote:

Please give a look again on the normal difficulty, because if you open the other difficulties, you'll see that the new combo is not in the same place, so if you're following the instruments, it is a bit inconsistent. Same happens on the Hard difficulty, if you don't want to change it, it's fine, is not a big problem, this is just a suggestion to have more consistency between the difficulties.

About how you can change the slider's position on the hard difficulty, try this, which feels way better, at least to me.
I'm still sure that these offsets are wrong, wait until I find some other BATs to check it.

TicClick wrote:

From what I've got, only the last offset really needs fixing; it should be 01:41:652 (+12) with at most 171.65 BPM instead of 172, which is, according to my tests, off. You can also subtract 5 from the previous 01:30:505, making it 01:30:500.

P.S. When resnapping, please be careful, since the current algorithm of snapping notes is a bit wrong and considers 1/16th beats instead of active BSD.

eveless wrote:

eldnl: I cant understand why you rebubbled a map without ctb diffs

whymeman wrote:

To any BAT: I suggest holding off plans on ranking this map till things are sorted out.

orioncomet wrote:

Please don't forget to post IRC modding log.
or at least what have you fixed.

last irc mod

2013-06-15 08:24 eldnl: Checking your map now, if everything is okay I'll give the bubble back
2013-06-15 08:24 Verlaren: ty
2013-06-15 08:28 eldnl: on the normal difficulty
2013-06-15 08:28 eldnl: 01:41:652 -
2013-06-15 08:28 eldnl: unsnapped circle
2013-06-15 08:29 Verlaren: he snapped on 1/16 beatsnap, because i change this timepoint
2013-06-15 08:30 Verlaren: fixed.
2013-06-15 08:32 eldnl: fine
2013-06-15 08:32 Verlaren: one sec, i'm update map
2013-06-15 08:33 Verlaren: done
2013-06-15 08:35 eldnl: you changed it on the easy diff too?
2013-06-15 08:36 Verlaren: yes
2013-06-15 08:38 eldnl: allright
2013-06-15 08:39 eldnl: found something else
2013-06-15 08:39 eldnl: your video has audio
2013-06-15 08:39 Verlaren: nope, you wrong. This video make lolcudes....
2013-06-15 08:40 Verlaren: but, i'm check it
2013-06-15 08:40 eldnl: I can hear the audio
2013-06-15 08:40 eldnl: how I can be wrong
2013-06-15 08:41 eldnl: wait a moment, login out
2013-06-15 08:43 Verlaren: copy pls video on other folder and run him, and you will see for yourself
2013-06-15 08:43 Verlaren: in*
2013-06-15 08:43 eldnl: I see
2013-06-15 08:43 eldnl: yes
2013-06-15 08:43 eldnl: really weird, do you know why it happens?
2013-06-15 08:43 eldnl: could be for the .mp3 with the same name?
2013-06-15 08:44 yes and because it *.avi
2013-06-15 08:45 Verlaren: flv although I also met this bug
2013-06-15 08:46 eldnl: fine, good luck
2013-06-15 08:46 Verlaren: ty a lot
2013-06-15 08:47 eldnl: I hope I could rank this but I'm just a ctb BAT

Chloe wrote:

hi~ Verlaren.
Maybe you don't need the later mod cause it had been bubbled.
But you can also call me in-game if you want it.

eveless wrote:

eldnl: I cant understand why you rebubbled a map without ctb diffs

Garven wrote:

All parties involved have been contacted. Consider the issue closed.

Frost: Please recheck when you are able. Thank you.

Frostmourne wrote:

Garven wrote:

All parties involved have been contacted. Consider the issue closed.

Frost: Please recheck when you are able. Thank you.

Ok Garven

Easy
00:24:923 (3) - remove only whistle from tail - fixed
01:31:203 (3) - ^ - fixed
01:37:133 (3) - clap head and clap tail (remove whistle from tail) - fixed

Normal
00:08:877 (1) - clap tail instead of whistle - fixed
00:15:156 (2) - whistle head - fixed
01:30:505 (1) - clap tail instead of whistle - fixed

Hard
01:18:660 (5,6) - this spacing is still confusing, I'm still worried after trying a play once - fixed, i'm change this spacing on regular.

Call me back after fixing plz..

Alarido wrote:

I hope this map get Ranked soon, Verlaren, once your map has no Ranking-impeachment issues.

♥ The song is awesome so far ♥