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clay53
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Joined February 2018
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clay53
For my school science fair, I decided to try to make a program to automatically generate Piano Tiles-like maps. However, Piano Tiles does not work on PC; so, I decided to use Osu!Mania instead, as the maps are saved in plain text and are easily editable. For the project, I have to get multiple player's opinion about each map. So, I came up with a survey for people to sign up for a mailing list so that I can inform you to get your opinion about each beatmap. Beatmaps will come in rounds and you will not know what kind of AI or even if an AI is being used at all for each beatmap. If you'd like to participate in this study, I encourage you to fill out the applicant survey: https://goo.gl/forms/sdG1K08LxTmiF3Go2. The questions may seem slightly excessive, I just want to see if there is any correlation about an opinion about a beatmap has to do with the player's ability/tastes as well as to be able to clean up any data.

Edit: spelling
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abraker
Global Moderator
8,295 posts
Joined July 2014
abraker
You posted in the wrong place. Ask a moderator to move it to https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/107

Now about the questions.
1) What is the reason we are not allowed to share maps?
2) What is considered "potentially data-integrity-compromising information"? What does this mean?
3) The question about level gives roundabout info for a scientific setting. The correct question would ask how many hours of osu!mania gameplay the player has clocked because this is essentially what level is.
clay53
10 posts
Joined February 2018
Topic Starter
clay53
1. So that people don't know what AI the map was made with - this may influence the player's opinion of the map and skew the data
2. I should have phrased this better, I meant like "any information that may influence another player's opinion on the map".
3. I can't find a way to get how many hours you played and even so, it would probably include time not actually playing a map.

For the moderator thing, how do I ask?

abraker wrote:

You posted in the wrong place. Ask a moderator to move it to https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/107

Now about the questions.
1) What is the reason we are not allowed to share maps?
2) What is considered "potentially data-integrity-compromising information"? What does this mean?
3) The question about level gives roundabout info for a scientific setting. The correct question would ask how many hours of osu!mania gameplay the player has clocked because this is essentially what level is.
abraker
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8,295 posts
Joined July 2014
abraker

clay53 wrote:

3. I can't find a way to get how many hours you played and even so, it would probably include time not actually playing a map.
clay53
10 posts
Joined February 2018
Topic Starter
clay53
Oof, I'm blind. Though, it does say "Total Play" time which would include other game modes.

abraker wrote:

clay53 wrote:

3. I can't find a way to get how many hours you played and even so, it would probably include time not actually playing a map.
abraker
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8,295 posts
Joined July 2014
abraker

clay53 wrote:

Oof, I'm blind. Though, it does say "Total Play" time which would include other game modes.

abraker wrote:

clay53 wrote:

3. I can't find a way to get how many hours you played and even so, it would probably include time not actually playing a map.
change gamemodes in the tabs on top and the time changes. It's per gamemode
clay53
10 posts
Joined February 2018
Topic Starter
clay53

abraker wrote:

clay53 wrote:

Oof, I'm blind. Though, it does say "Total Play" time which would include other game modes.

abraker wrote:

clay53 wrote:

3. I can't find a way to get how many hours you played and even so, it would probably include time not actually playing a map.
change gamemodes in the tabs on top and the time changes. It's per gamemode


Oh wow, I really need to open my eyes.
johnmedina999
296 posts
Joined October 2016
johnmedina999
I would just repost this to https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/107, honestly. The mods aren't really good at moving things for people; they usually only move things to Off-Topic or the Wastelands. You'd be better off reposting, in my opinion.

Surveys is a rather low-traffic subforum.
Bobbias
1,447 posts
Joined March 2011
Bobbias
Time spent playing is a garbage metric if you're interested in player skill btw. PP is slightly better but still pretty bad too, but it's the best we have, assuming that's why you're interested in level/time played.

Edit: I see you already included PP in the form. One thing to note is that level/time played only counts for ranked maps, but some players spend a lot of time on unranked maps.
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clay53
10 posts
Joined February 2018
Topic Starter
clay53

Bobbias wrote:

Time spent playing is a garbage metric if you're interested in player skill btw. PP is slightly better but still pretty bad too, but it's the best we have, assuming that's why you're interested in level/time played.

Edit: I see you already included PP in the form. One thing to note is that level/time played only counts for ranked maps, but some players spend a lot of time on unranked maps.


Thanks for what you said in the edit - didn't realize that when making it.
Bobbias
1,447 posts
Joined March 2011
Bobbias
Yeah I've been playing since mania came out (I think it was December 2012) but since I primarily play unranked maps, my time played is hilariously low compared to the actual amount I've played.
SpaghettiCat
1 post
Joined December 2015
SpaghettiCat
I've signed up. I'll be watching for emails.
elvin358
5 posts
Joined April 2014
elvin358
This seems interesting, count me in.
clay53
10 posts
Joined February 2018
Topic Starter
clay53
Notice: There's a new forum out https://goo.gl/forms/IiDhUEvzqPxt4nxx1. People who signed up in the original forum should have received an email. If it has been sent to your spam box, please let me know. Also, if you have not yet joined, you can still join, but you may not receive emails that have already been sent.

edit: formatting
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abraker
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Joined July 2014
abraker
So what's the status of this?
abraker
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Joined July 2014
abraker
Just putting this here since it's AI related and OP or anyone else who accidentally stumbles across this thread might be interested in this: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.06891.pdf
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