Well, earlier this month, around the 1st/2nd of April, I was "diagnosed" with Wrist Tendonitis. I had been having pains in my wrist for about 6-8 months, and I finally saw a doctor about it in March. I had an X-Ray taken but nothing serious came back, apart from a black spot around the wrist area, this was thought to be arthriteous (I can't spell for shit, leave me alone.)

They did an MRI on my wrist on March 28th, and it came back to have inflamation in the wrist. It wasn't arthriteous. This lead to the conclusion of Wrist Tendonitis, as I did have an inflamed and harden section within the joint area. This inflamed area was actually so hard, the syringe needle snapped trying to go into this shell-like thing. The easiest way to explain it, is like the ball of your elbow, but smaller and in the centre of the wrist. It is in-line with the bottom of my thumb joint to the wrist.

Well, they had to break this little ball thing to drain the fluid that was inside it. Very painful, but they did it while I was under anesthetic. This was done on March 29th, sent off that afternoon. April 2nd the results came back for the confirmation of Wrist Tendonitis and that I would need to attempt to settle the tendons in-order to take the swelling down. I tried Ice-packs when ever I felt pain, and I was on medication. I had a splint, but that did me no good as I have broken my right wrist before, which meant it already didn't sit in place. This may also be an issue lead to what's happened.

The medication I was on hasn't worked, and the last option is surgery. This would mean that I would be out of commition for anything streinuating for about 6-8 weeks. I would then need to goto physyotheropy to help train the tendons to work once more, as being in a slint and/or cast so the stitches don't tear will mean there is little to no movement going on, so muscle strength will go down.

I have been told my hardcore gaming days are essentially over. Due to the amount the muscles are used when operating a mouse, I am unable to go back to what I was. There is a slight chance I won't suffer any-loss (just 6-8 weeks of not playing xD) of skill and such, but that is about a 25-30% chance due to what the doctor has seen from what I do. I could change the way I play to using my entire elbow and/or shoulder instead of my wrist, but my precision and reaction times would take a hit.

osu! is more then likely the cause of this, as I got a LOT! better and was playing some harder songs around the time the pain began happening. I, of course, would try to continue playing as much as possible, but I will never be this good again. If I played for 12 hours straight, 7 days a week, for about a year, I might be, but that wouldn't happen.

I'm actually tearing up as I write this. osu! has been a big influence on how I play my games, the music in my life, and some of the friends that I've made. I've always wanted to help in any-way possible that was within my capabilities. I've always stayed somewhat active in-game, and I regularly chat. In the past 4-5 months of running this PC with xfire, I've gained over 700 hours of constant osu! gameplay. Not much compared to others, but mixed in with my CS:S pro-leagues, LoL gaming, and other non-sensical games, it was a lot for me.

I'm now going to bid you all a temporary goodbye. I book my surgery tomorrow, which will more-then-likely be this Friday. I'm not going anywhere from the community, but I will be less active, as I can no longer play. I am preparing for the worst. God, I sound like I'm going to die. That's just how much I love to play osu!, it seriously is.

2 and a half years, or 880 days.
11,312 play count.
2,549,730 notes hit.
1,568,078,801 ranked score obtained.
6,083,601,622 total score.


My only regret is not using my tablet and getting better at it. That's it. Mouse users will always be the only proper way to enjoy osu!, just sayin'. <3 you all, but that's me done.

And as a final note, here is my last map played. Just drag and drop the .OSR file into osu, and you should be able to watch the replay. A link to the map so you're able to watch it: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/93389
Replay File: http://puu.sh/r5qt


Adios, amigos.

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Sad to hear of this, I couldn't even imagine what that would be like. This doesn't mean you can't come here and have a laugh with us though. You could just get on chat as well, don't shun yourself from the community.

LaVolpe024 wrote:

Sad to hear of this, I couldn't even imagine what that would be like. This doesn't mean you can't come here and have a laugh with us though. You could just get on chat as well, don't shun yourself from the community.

I'll second LaVolpe on this. You're a good guy, this can't be the end. Invest some time in mapping, that's not as strenuous, or actually, it's not strenuous at all.

You shouldn't let your physical limits affect your passion for music, or even this game. There are more than one way to contribute and be a part of this game. If anything, the best of luck to ya, brother. But I really do hope you take these options into consideration before you pack your bags the last time.

(no one ever really truly leaves osu!.)

Sad to hear this. All the best to you mate.

I can't even imagine what getting this would feel like. It made me scared, just reading about your experience.

It sucks that this happened to you, the man with the best avatar in the world </3~.

I wish for a speedy recovery for your wrist <3~.

As beautiful or tear-jerking as (you may think) a wall of text lamenting your goodbyes is important, it, alas, is not and does not belong in GD.


Besides, it's not like an inept wrist keeps you from playing the game - I'm physically unable to stream over a certain bpm because of low finger dexterity due to my hands being crushed when I was a child, but hey, mappin' mappin' and ctb works well.

Take it easy for now, Sean. Like the others said, you can still map and hang around for the time being. But yes, I hope for the quick recovery of your wrist and I'll be keeping you in mind.

Good luck at your surgery.

: (... sorry to hear this

still there's plenty in things in life besides osu

i am sure you will always have better things to do then playing osu!


i wish you good luck with your life ;..

Dropping in to wish you all the best for your surgery (and for a speedy recovery in general). I can't even begin to imagine what it must be like to be in your shoes so hang in there!

Sh!t happens in life, whether you like it or not - just know that you won't be alone in all of this and there are always people around who cares.
Never let anything diminish your passion.

What about your other hand? :<

Start Mouse-only

How about only-chat?
You don't quit osu! completly, at least.

Shit, I have it on my left hand that ball thing, but it doesn't hurt and I can't even feel it, I can only see some weird ball inside my wrist ;_; Should I be worried? I think I have it over a year and no pain or anything.
Also I guess that's why I can't stream faster than 200 bpm :/

Makar8000 wrote:

What about your other hand? :<

Start Mouse-only

Playing mouse-only with your non-dominant hand is always a good idea

play like kriers bro, profit.

Best of luck in the future, it's always sad to lose something you've grown close with over something you cannot control. As one door closes another one opens. Hopefully you'll be able to look at this in a positive view and be able to grow from it in some way. Don't let this bring you down but instead use it to your advantage, grow from it. I'm sure we all still love you and hope you'll be able to chill on the osu forums as frequent as you say you will so again, I honestly hope for the best.

Fatty ): I'll miss you

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man I feel your pain I too sorta fucked my chances at this game with a wrist injury along time ago but I've been working at it, and the doctors can only be so right. I was told I'd get only 65% of movement in my hand I shocked them all with a stunning 85% I can even feel sensations in my hand again and was told things like heat and pain would be dulled so don't give up yet!

as for how I fucked my wrist up, that is another story I'd rather not get in to.

Sean I remember you.

Take care of yourself, and God bless.

Nearly made me cry, oh my this makes me worried since I play mouse only, putting more strain on my right hand, and I noticed a patch on my wrist darker than my left hand, no hardening yet fortunately.. Phew

And apex please, this is not the place for this, this thread would be better without your post
If you dont care for the guy and cant do anything but insult and redirect people to your own thread, dont bother posting.
Besides, If you don't feel sad, why would you lament? Isn't lamenting a passionate expression of grief? Please don't contradict yourself

Surgery's booked for 8am Monday next week. It'll be a 6 hour proceedure and I'll be fully knocked out. Tissue samples came back and showed promise that the tendon won't be completly encased in the solidified liquid. If this is the case I can get out of this with essentially a cut and a bit of tissue removed. Probability of a full recovery is looking to be 50/50 at this stage. They wish to get a better look while opening the wrist up.

I won't essentially "quit", but I'll die in activity. I try to map, but I'm nothing like others out there. Shiirn and Ouranhshc are mappers I only "wish" to map like. Shiirn for his jumps, and Ouran for his capability for a generalized fun difficulty. I don't think I've ever been bored when playing a hard map made by Ouran.

I'll try the mapping thing, and give it a shot, but no guarentee. I may stay active, I'm not sure. For now, I'm just sort of coming to terms with the fact that I'm going in for surgery on my dominant hand.

Sorry to hear.. life goes on, you've made the memories but nothing lasts forever. I wish you good luck in all of your future endeavors.

Hope to still see you around the forums.

My dominant wrist is in the same boat as ztrot's--the origin of injury is the same as well if I remember correctly. Mine's older than ztrot's injury so it's recovered a lot more, but I will never be as good at osu! as I used to be. Hell, I'll probably never get back into the top 100. But even when I injured myself then, and when I partially amputated the middle finger on my dominant hand, I still stayed in the community and played whenever I could. Now I'm just too involved in my studies to really spend time here other than the occasional reply in the forums but you get my point.

An injury shouldn't mean a goodbye, but I wish you luck all the same.

[Sean] wrote:

I try to map, but I'm nothing like others out there. Shiirn and Ouranhshc are mappers I only "wish" to map like. Shiirn for his jumps, and Ouran for his capability for a generalized fun difficulty. I don't think I've ever been bored when playing a hard map made by Ouran.

When in doubt just remember. . . "At least I don't map like CDFA"

/me dies

I'm in a better mood thanks to ztrot. I'm not as down as before. His look on his accident is brilliant to say the least. I honestly have nothing on him... I also got some "weird" news this morning. I may be able to recover faster thanks to metal? or something, stiches on the tendons, allowing them to repair faster thanks to being stuck together or something. If this is the case then I'm happy, but I was half asleep. I've been reading online everything that could improve me possibility of recovery, and pretty much anything that exercises the wrist and muscles surrounding, allowing them to regain strength.

ztrot is awesome, he's made me feel like I don't have to give up on this. <3

CDFA wrote:

[Sean] wrote:

I try to map, but I'm nothing like others out there. Shiirn and Ouranhshc are mappers I only "wish" to map like. Shiirn for his jumps, and Ouran for his capability for a generalized fun difficulty. I don't think I've ever been bored when playing a hard map made by Ouran.

When in doubt just remember. . . "At least I don't map like CDFA"

/me dies

I has like, a huge list of favorite mappers =3= They're just two mappers that I had recently played maps from. Ouran because I always get the new songs first, and Shiirn because I absolutely love his Solar map by Noisestorm. Y u take 2 heart?! D:

About mapping, don't sweat it if you don't reach your expectations in your first tries. Nobody does. Give it a number of attempts and I'm sure you'll get better at it. If you look at every known mapper's first maps, you'll see that they're way subpar to their usual stuff. You just need to practice, just like with osu!standard really!
Hope that cheers you up.

i still think my mapping sucks, so get used to that if mapping becomes something you enjoy.

Glad to hear I brightened up you day

Mr Color wrote:

About mapping, don't sweat it if you don't reach your expectations in your first tries. Nobody does. Give it a number of attempts and I'm sure you'll get better at it. If you look at every known mapper's first maps, you'll see that they're way subpar to their usual stuff. You just need to practice, just like with osu!standard really!
Hope that cheers you up.

correction: nobody reaches their expectations
because people are made like that, always trying to achieve more than they can achieve

For your wrist, welp. There are other people aroud here whose wrist has been injured with lifetime aftermath (ztrot, myself, and possibly others), so feel free to talk if you need to.
And you'll be surprised at how good the human body is to adapt. You'll get your strength back in no time !

good luck being stuck for 8 weeks with only one wrist. I've been through it and it's unbearable (and it might happen again hurr)

PS: I've always been scared of tendonitis knowing I use my wrist a whole lot (piano+violin+osu! and other games) now I think I'm gonna slow down on these

I don't know, I'm quite content of the maps I've done recently (the unsublitted ones I mean)
I guess my expectations aren't high enough? Even so I did what I wanted and I think the maps were good-looking, and I got positive feedback, so I'm already very happy with that.

But anyway, back on topic, see if you can't play Taiko either. If you set up your keys properly you'll be able to play a decent number of maps without straining your wrists. I am one of the slowest streamers when it comes to standard, I can't keep up 1/4 streams at more than 145bpm, and I'm able to clear deathstreams 200bpm in Taiko with no problems. See if you can try that out and if it works for you then all the better!

After a nice 6 hour session at the hospital, I've come back with news I'm literally jumping about. The doctors were able to drain all the fluid from the encasement on the tendons, and they did a few tests to find that the fluid reacts to something called dexamethasone (had to google to get the right spelling), otherwise found within most anti-inflammatory drugs. Now, I wasn't reacting to the medication I was given, but they gave it a shot. The drug is commonly found in some steroids, and as such, could become the needed and non-surgical solution to the problem.

They noticed over an 8 hour period, a concentrated amount of the dexme-I can't spell the word, destroyed the tendon enducing chemicals, and would allow the white bloodcells to act as the anti-body to exit the excess from my system. They gave me an injection about 3 hours ago, and the bally-knob-thing which is the harden shell of the tendonitis has gone down, and I feel no pain at the moment. I was only give a dilouted dose of about 5mg, which I was told would allow it to take effect over a longer period.

I go back in tomorrow afternoon and will get an MRI, and another sample taken to where I wait for results back. If it comes back with signs that it's working, the surgery this coming Monday will be cancled, and there will be more treatment to come of this dexy stuff.

This is the first time in 3 months I haven't felt an inch of pain rotating my wrist around.

I'm glad this is going well for you, hope you make a full recovery soon.
And I also know what to do if this happens to me now(I hope not orz, been Resting my hand for almost a week now)

It's just a case of not stretching or execizing the muscle. Because I barely moved my wrist, and tensed up so much, the tendons began producing this liquid which then turned into this problem. As long as you don't sit on the PC for 12 hours a day constantly gaming and browsing the internet like I did, then don't worry. It also takes time to build up from what the doctors said.

[Sean] wrote:

It's just a case of not stretching or execizing the muscle. Because I barely moved my wrist, and tensed up so much, the tendons began producing this liquid which then turned into this problem. As long as you don't sit on the PC for 12 hours a day constantly gaming and browsing the internet like I did, then don't worry. It also takes time to build up from what the doctors said.

oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit oh shit

I spend 18 hours a day on the computer when I have my vocational education, 8 hours a day at school on computers, and 10 hours on a computer after school

Ikr... I stop during school days, but during the holidays... 12 hours is less than average

I've had 10+ hours on average per day using the computer for almost 15 years. I'm totally fine.

I hope you could come back fine from the hospital

Shiirn wrote:

I've had 10+ hours on average per day using the computer for almost 15 years. I'm totally fine.

When you earn the douche bag perk, it adds plus 15 resistance against arthritis and other hand cramping affinities.
also this is the general discussion forum so your previous post about this being irrelevant is in fact irrelevant itself.. you don't need to be a douche and are forbidden from being a douche as stated in the rules.

but i hope that you have a fast recovery and can return to us sometime.

He already said he isn't going anywhere. Why is everyone saying goodbye?

Hope the surgery goes well.

Edit: Update your initial post. It's misleading with the new information.

peppy wrote:

He already said he isn't going anywhere. Why is everyone saying goodbye?

Hope the surgery goes well.

Based on what I read I think the surgery was successful, and he's on the road to full recovery ~~

I'm spending most of my day on my computer but when my hands aren't typing or using the mouse they're usually fiddling with things like pens thus they aren't held in the same position constantly for extended periods.

That's my speculation as to why I don't have hand/joint problems yet.

...or it's because Shelly spends a lot of time on the computer for other reasons engaging in an activity that requires intense usage of his hand and arm.

LaVolpe024 wrote:

...or it's because Shelly spends a lot of time on the computer for other reasons engaging in an activity that requires intense usage of his hand and arm.

LOL that might also add a bonus to his resistance

LaVolpe024 wrote:

...or it's because Shelly spends a lot of time on the computer for other reasons engaging in an activity that requires intense usage of his hand and arm.

I wonder how many different muscles that activity uses, sounds very good for health.

-A t H e N a- wrote:

LaVolpe024 wrote:

...or it's because Shelly spends a lot of time on the computer for other reasons engaging in an activity that requires intense usage of his hand and arm.

I wonder how many different muscles that activity uses, sounds very good for health.

Indeed it is.. in more ways than one i suppose

We'll miss you!