The Extra is hard
aaaaaand extreme is done
holy shit I lost the advanced fuck my life
nevermind I found it~
holy shit the advanced is done
!!! standard is done
!!!! basic is done
!!!!! beginner is done

22:36 <Sync> : the extra is hard as fuck and I still haven't even fixed it up lol
22:36 <Sync> : by fixing it up I mean making 2 specific parts easier
22:37 <kriers> : extreme was very nice looking
22:37 <kriers> : extra needs some shining up, yeah
22:37 <kriers> : lol I think I know which part
22:37 <kriers> : I hope
22:38 <Sync> : which part do you think it is
22:38 <kriers> : 01:23:789 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this is the hardest part
22:38 <Sync> : yes
22:38 <Sync> : exactly
22:38 <Sync> : lol
22:38 <Sync> : I already fixed it, didn't submit though
22:38 <kriers> : k
22:38 <kriers> : submit and I'll strive some more
22:39 <Sync> : was there any other part you found odd
22:41 <kriers> : nah not playwise
22:46 <kriers> : time to
22:47 *kriers is playing (S-C-U - Nanahoshi)[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/48816] [Extra]
22:47 <kriers> : play until fc again xP
22:51 <kriers> : lol habitual miss
22:51 <Sync> : is that part still too far
22:51 <kriers> : not sure
22:53 <Sync> : if ti makes you feel any better
22:54 <Sync> : lewa had trouble FCing this too
22:54 <Sync> : lol
22:54 <kriers> : the issue
22:54 <kriers> : is the jump before the double
22:54 <kriers> : s
22:54 <kriers> : not the doubles
22:54 <Sync> : let me go take a look
22:54 <kriers> : ok
22:54 <kriers> : hard to make that jump while focusing on the next jump ;p
22:54 <kriers> : makes me have to memorize the distance
22:55 <kriers> : messed up becomes remembering the previous pattern you used
22:55 <kriers> : because*
22:55 <Sync> : what if I change it to something like this
22:55 <Sync> : sec
22:55 <Sync> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/295617
22:56 <kriers> : sure why not
22:56 <Sync> : updated
22:57 <kriers> : wups choke
22:59 <kriers> : yeah that works great
22:59 <Sync> : yay
22:59 <kriers> : now FC
23:00 <Sync> : I feel bad because this map keeps frustrating people ;_;
23:00 <Sync> : also brb
23:04 <kriers> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/295622 stupid miss
23:05 <Sync> : oh wowol
23:05 <Sync> : jesus, so close to SSing
23:05 <Sync> : ;_;
23:14 <kriers> : yess
23:14 <Sync> : did you FC it
23:14 <kriers> : SS
23:14 <Sync> : oh shit
23:14 <Sync> : nice
23:14 <Sync> : wow
23:14 <Sync> : lol

02:08 <Makar8000> : oh god making me mod a 8 diff mapset fuuu
02:09 <Sync> : lol
02:09 <Sync> : it's not even in pending
02:09 <Sync> : plz mod anyways
02:09 <Sync> : =(
02:09 <Makar8000> : lol okay
02:09 <Sync> : it's actually done
02:09 <Makar8000> : IRC mod
02:09 <Makar8000> : yes?
02:09 <Makar8000> : please
02:09 <Makar8000> : yes
02:09 <Makar8000> : okay
02:09 <Makar8000> : leggo
02:09 <Sync> : yes
02:09 <Makar8000> : starting on
02:09 <Makar8000> : beginner
02:09 <Makar8000> : get in editor plzkthx
02:10 <Makar8000> : unless you are already in editor and the status thing is wrong again
02:10 <Sync> : lol
02:10 <Sync> : ok in the editor
02:10 <Makar8000> : k
02:10 <Makar8000> : 00:00:296 (1) -
02:10 <Makar8000> : repeat is on a weird beat that doesnt fit
02:11 <Makar8000> : 00:03:187 - would sound better if the repeat was here
02:11 <Makar8000> : which would mean the slider ends on the downbeat which you hate so lol
02:11 <Makar8000> : dont make it repeat and map after then?
02:12 <Sync> : agreed
02:12 <Makar8000> : js the SV on this is too high for beginner but w/e
02:12 <Sync> : dude
02:12 <Sync> : it's super slow leave me alone
02:12 <Sync> : =(
02:12 <Makar8000> : =(
02:13 <Makar8000> : 00:24:151 (3) - not enough time for newbs to see the second repeat imo
02:14 <Makar8000> : if you want, make it only repeat once but shift it forward and stack a note on it
02:14 <Makar8000> : then stack (1) on the combo that is after it on (2)
02:15 <Sync> : done
02:15 <Sync> : nice suggestion
02:15 <Makar8000> : \:D/
02:15 <Sync> : 00:25:597 (1) - ffff
02:15 <Sync> : makes this too far away
02:15 <Makar8000> : 00:35:717 (3) - same here
02:15 <Sync> : np i got this
02:15 <Makar8000> : stack it on (2) ?
02:15 <Sync> : yes lol
02:16 <Sync> : so many stacks ;_;
02:16 <Makar8000> : o.ob
02:16 <Makar8000> : xD I think its fine
02:16 <Makar8000> : weee copy paste
02:16 <Sync> : done
02:17 <Makar8000> : 00:59:573 (1,2,1,2) - I like this
02:17 <Makar8000> : o.ob
02:17 <Sync> : thx
02:17 <Sync> : ike my copy paste??
02:17 <Makar8000> : ...dont like the copy paste though lmao
02:17 <Makar8000> : you basically
02:18 <Makar8000> : mapped section 1, mapped section 2, copy paste section 2, mapped section 3, copy pasted section 3
02:18 <Sync> : copy and pasted the whole map
02:18 <Sync> : lmaoo0oo
02:18 <Sync> : easy lyf3
02:18 <Makar8000> : xD
02:18 <Makar8000> : k next diff
02:19 <Sync> : before you point it out I removed the whistle at 00:03:187 (3) -
02:19 <Sync> : wtf that soudned horrible
02:19 <Sync> : sounded*
02:19 <Makar8000> : lol
02:19 <Makar8000> : didnt notice
02:19 <Makar8000> : :>
02:19 <Makar8000> : 00:14:753 (1,2,3) - don't like this stack with this AR
02:19 <Sync> : I like it :<
02:19 <Sync> : i was like "wow this looks awesome with low AR"
02:19 <Sync> : ;_;
02:20 <Makar8000> : change to a repeat slider with a note at 00:15:476 ?
02:20 <Makar8000> : lol It can be confused with 1/4 :<
02:21 <Makar8000> : 00:20:536 (1,2,3) - same here
02:21 <Makar8000> : 00:25:597 (1,2,3) - and here... asdf
02:22 <Sync> : DENIED! it'd only be mistooken as 1/4 by players who are at a higher level than the players who the map are
02:22 <Sync> : made for anyways (and they are n00bs xdddd)
02:22 <Makar8000> : 00:32:645 (3,4,5) - definitely here because the stack starts on the red tick and that kinda plays weird
02:22 <Sync> : lol god dammit
02:22 <Sync> : hold on
02:22 <Makar8000> : asdf okay
02:22 <Makar8000> : I understand for those but the one that starts on the redtick needs to go imo
02:23 <Makar8000> : it just... plays weird
02:23 <Makar8000> : even if you know what it is
02:23 <Sync> : what should I do then :<
02:24 <Makar8000> : 00:32:103 (2) - change to a circle, add a 1/2 repeat slider on the next white tick (00:32:464), then
02:24 <Makar8000> : then slider I guess
02:24 <Makar8000> : lemme see how it plays one sec
02:25 <Makar8000> : oh just noticed how it was before broke spacing
02:26 <Makar8000> : and the way I suggested plays better imo
02:26 <Sync> : what
02:26 <Sync> : oh
02:26 <Makar8000> : asdf here http://puu.sh/v0Dk
02:27 <Sync> : oh
02:27 <Sync> : how did you lay it out
02:27 <Sync> : i'm playing with it
02:27 <Makar8000> : uhh
02:27 <Sync> : but it's like "eeeeeew" but yeah the beatplacement makes sense (the way you suggested)
02:27 <Makar8000> : I didnt try to make it look good
02:27 <Makar8000> : I guess thats the hard part xD
02:28 <Makar8000> : http://puu.sh/v0DO this is what I did but dunno if like
02:29 <Sync> : ok i did something like that
02:29 <Makar8000> : okee
02:29 <Makar8000> : next
02:29 <Makar8000> : 00:33:729 (1) -
02:29 <Makar8000> : again, not enough time to see the second repeat
02:30 <Makar8000> : I suggest circle then 1/2 repeat slider that is stacked
02:30 <Sync> : sec testing with default skin (the thing you suggested)
02:30 <Sync> : it might cover the hitcircle
02:30 <Makar8000> : o
02:32 <Sync> : ok i can I guess
02:32 <Makar8000> : \o/
02:32 <Makar8000> : 00:39:693 (5,6) - better as a repeat slider imo
02:33 <Makar8000> : 00:49:091 (2,3) - hitburst on (2) blocks the second repeat :<
02:34 <Makar8000> : even if its visible afterwards I dont really recommend it
02:34 <Makar8000> : its nice to be able to see that second repeat before hitting the first repeat
02:34 <Sync> : it does?
02:35 <Makar8000> : for about half the time, yes
02:35 <Makar8000> : I'd say rankable but still shouldnt be done imo
02:35 <Makar8000> : brb switching to default skin
02:36 <Makar8000> : yeah nevermind I guess its fine
02:36 <Makar8000> : should be enough time
02:36 <Sync> : i kind of agree with you but it's 4 stars/not the easiest difficulty
02:36 <Sync> : so I *think* it should be fine
02:36 <Makar8000> : k well
02:36 <Makar8000> : 00:53:609 (2,3,4,5) -
02:36 <Sync> : if another person points it out (I hate when people say this btw, im a hypocrite lol) i'll change
02:37 <Makar8000> : this definitely isnt rankable asdf
02:37 <Sync> : ffff
02:37 <Sync> : ok easy fix
02:37 <Makar8000> : repeat is fully blocked
02:37 <Makar8000> : xD
02:37 <Makar8000> : just dont stack
02:37 <Makar8000> : ye
02:37 <Makar8000> : put out on the side like this http://puu.sh/v0GI
02:38 <Makar8000> : 00:56:681 (1,2) - same here
02:38 <Sync> : yeah thats what i did lol
02:38 <Makar8000> : jeez you like hiding repeat
02:38 <Makar8000> : :<
02:38 <Sync> : i blame AR3
02:38 <Sync> : ;_;
02:38 <Makar8000> : xD
02:38 <Sync> : makes the hitbursts stay there for SOOOOOO LONG
02:38 <Makar8000> : didnt know AR affected how long the hitbursts are there
02:39 <Makar8000> : 01:01:741 (2) - again, not enough time to see the second repeat blahbalh
02:39 <Makar8000> : 01:13:307 (2) - same mr. copy paste
02:39 <Makar8000> : k thats all for this diff
02:39 <Makar8000> : tell me when I can move on
02:40 <Makar8000> : I love how this post has kudosu p/1516467
02:41 <Makar8000> : lol'd
02:41 <Sync> : lol
02:44 <Sync> : standard now?
02:44 <Makar8000> : k
02:45 <Makar8000> : 00:05:717 (4,1,2) - stacks like this (changes in timing) make it hard to Hidden sightread :<
02:45 <Makar8000> : or at least confusing
02:45 <Makar8000> : suggestion is to move 00:06:079 (1,2) - somewhere else
02:46 <Sync> : i thought the same thing but honestly it's it's pretty damn readable and considering the difficulty level it's not
02:46 <Sync> : wroth messing up the pattern imop
02:46 <Sync> : imo*
02:46 <Makar8000> : mmk
02:47 <Makar8000> : 00:56:681 (1,2) - k you know already what to do about this
02:48 <Makar8000> : nothing really to point out in this diff so ill move on when you are ready
02:49 <Sync> : hmm...
02:49 <Sync> : it's hidden like 75% of the time
02:49 <Sync> : fffff
02:49 <Sync> : fuck
02:49 <Sync> : fucking combo bursts
02:49 <Makar8000> : change it :IIII
02:49 <Sync> : ;_________;
02:49 <Sync> : I LIKE IT SO MUCH ;_;
02:49 <Sync> : ok fine
02:49 <Sync> : FINE
02:49 <Makar8000> : =)
02:51 <Sync> : changed =(
02:51 <Makar8000> : c:!
02:51 <Sync> : ok advanced
02:52 <Makar8000> : 01:08:428 (2,3) - timing of these is too hard to predict imo
02:53 <Sync> : agreed, but what should I do instead?
02:53 <Makar8000> : not really sure
02:53 <Makar8000> : hmmm
02:53 <Sync> : lol
02:55 <Makar8000> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/317553 timing pattern like this maybe?
02:56 <Sync> : would be more predictable but it sounds like shit :<
02:57 <Makar8000> : :<
02:57 <Makar8000> : it doesnt sound bad to me
02:57 <Makar8000> : waaay better to play too
02:58 <Sync> : hmm
02:58 <Makar8000> : btw I also suggest a triple here 01:09:512 - so you could do something like this
02:58 <Makar8000> : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/317556
02:58 <Sync> : changed btw
02:59 <Makar8000> : 01:16:018 (6,7,8,9,10) - are you purposely increasing the spacing here
03:00 <Makar8000> : 01:19:994 (2,3) - same suggest here as before btw
03:00 <Makar8000> : and thats all
03:00 <Makar8000> : when you are ready ill move on
03:01 <Sync> : not going to make that in a triplet for the sake of difficulty etc
03:02 <Sync> : and the one at 1:16
03:02 <Sync> : no lol, fixed
03:02 <Makar8000> : mmk
03:02 <Makar8000> : for Extreme then
03:02 <Makar8000> : 00:27:042 (8) - NC here or on (9)
03:03 <Sync> : done
03:03 <Makar8000> : these combos get pretty long
03:04 <Makar8000> : maybe consider going over it yourself and maybe add some NCs later
03:04 <Sync> : i actually need to organize the combos in a better way :< the long ones are the correct ones
03:04 <Sync> : the combos aren't cohesive
03:04 <Sync> : believe it or not it's harder than you think on a song like this
03:04 <Sync> : lol
03:05 <Sync> : ignore combos
03:05 <Sync> : will fix them myself
03:05 <Makar8000> : okay then xD
03:05 <Makar8000> : 00:40:235 (11,12) - big jump is big
03:05 <Sync> : I LOVE IT
03:05 <Makar8000> : okay :<
03:06 <Sync> : STOP OPPRESSING ME MARK
03:06 <Sync> : RACIST
03:06 <Makar8000> : awefajowiejf
03:06 <Makar8000> : 00:46:018 (1,2,3) - dat spacing
03:06 <Sync> : amazing right
03:06 <Makar8000> : xD okay
03:06 <Makar8000> : I dont like 1/4 spaced so high though :<
03:06 <Makar8000> : unnless its like
03:07 <Sync> : you'll love extreme then~
03:07 <Makar8000> : a stream jump
03:07 <Makar8000> : you mean extra *
03:07 <Makar8000> : o.o
03:07 <Sync> : extra*
03:07 <Sync> : ya
03:07 <Makar8000> : 00:57:946 (5,6,7) - *cries*
03:07 <Sync> : it's so fun :<
03:07 <Sync> : lol @ my combos omg
03:08 <Sync> : i completely forgot about how slapped-on they were until now
03:08 <Makar8000> : lol well I love the Kiai on this diff
03:08 <Makar8000> : anyways moving on
03:08 <Sync> : extra?
03:08 <Makar8000> : mhm
03:09 <Sync> : same thing about combos
03:09 <Sync> : btw
03:09 <Makar8000> : 00:29:211 (1,2,3) - yeah I don't mind it if the spacing is big on stuff like this
03:09 <Sync> : but do point out everything else
03:09 <Makar8000> : tis fun
03:10 <Makar8000> : 00:46:018 (1,2,3) - :<
03:10 <Sync> : ~~~~
03:10 <Makar8000> : 00:57:946 (9,10,11) - ;w;
03:10 <Sync> : that one is the best one
03:10 <Sync> : so fun
03:11 <Makar8000> : k once again Kiai is fun and nothing to point out I guess
03:11 <Makar8000> : end of mod
03:11 <Makar8000> : woo
03:11 <Sync> : woo

0:46 <Jacob> : But I have beginner's mod done already
10:46 <Jacob> : so you should go to it
10:46 <Jacob> : in editor
10:47 <Jacob> : 00:00:296 (1) - Finish on the beginning of this slider. It's pretty obvious as to why~
10:47 <Sync> : done
10:47 <Jacob> : 00:14:753 (1) - This slider and all of them like it are asymmetrical and odd looking. I'm not a slider guru, so
10:47 <Jacob> : pleeeaaase fix these.
10:47 <Jacob> : really
10:47 <Jacob> : they're ugly
10:48 <Sync> : IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WOBBLY AND FUN ;_;
10:48 <Sync> : ok, changing
10:48 <Jacob> : IT'S NOT
10:48 <Jacob> : 00:36:079 (4) - Claps belong on the beginning and the end of this slider to follow your pattern.
10:48 <Jacob> : 01:02:103 (2) - A clap should be here.
10:48 <Jacob> : 01:04:994 (2) - ^
10:48 <Jacob> : 01:13:669 (2) - ^
10:48 <Jacob> : 01:16:560 (2) - ^
10:49 <Jacob> : And do you want to hear NC mods?
10:49 <Sync> : yes
10:49 <Jacob> : aight
10:50 <Jacob> : 01:08:247 (3) - NC should be here for consistency
10:50 <Jacob> : 01:19:813 (3) - and heere
10:50 <Jacob> : and that's it for beginner
10:50 <Sync> : (still fixing the sliders btw, will respond to it when I get to them
10:50 <Sync> : (
10:50 <Jacob> : yup
10:50 <Sync> : (still fixing the sliders btw, will respond to it when I get to them)
10:50 <Jacob> : wat
10:51 <Jacob> : !savelog
10:51 <Jacob> : wrong command
10:55 <Sync> : ugh
10:55 <Sync> : working with CS2
10:55 <Sync> : is soooooooooo hard
10:55 <Jacob> : teehee
10:55 <Jacob> : I used cs3 on my F.I map
10:55 <Jacob> : for another
10:55 <Jacob> : and charles did for extra
10:56 <Jacob> : basic has lots of sloppy patterns on nanahoshi
10:56 <Jacob> : BUT THAT'S OKAY
10:57 <Jacob> : and basic mod - 00:08:609 (3) - Whistle for consistency
10:57 <Jacob> : 00:27:042 (3) - Remove the clap on the reverse, doesn't follow any pattern and sounds odd
10:57 <Jacob> : that's it
10:57 <Sync> : ok
10:57 <Sync> : finally the fucking sliders
10:57 <Jacob> : lemme see
10:58 <Sync> : did everything on beginner
11:01 <Sync> : did everything on basic
11:02 <Jacob> : standard -
11:03 <Jacob> : The last spinner
11:03 <Jacob> : Why doesn't it end where all of the others dooo
11:03 <Sync> : oh forgot to change that
11:03 <Sync> : thx for reminding me
11:03 <Sync> : same with advanced iirc
11:04 <Jacob> : Advanced -
11:05 <Jacob> : 00:48:368 (9) - hitburst of this covers up the slider track of 00:49:452 (3) - and makes it hard to read
11:06 <Jacob> : also put a NC where anti-jumps are
11:06 <Jacob> : at the start of them
11:08 <Sync> : wait
11:08 <Sync> : I don't understrand the hitburst part
11:08 <Sync> : how does 00:48:368 (4) - cover up00:49:452 (1) -
11:08 <Jacob> : on advanced
11:08 <Jacob> : not standard
11:08 <Sync> : oh shit
11:09 <Jacob> : Extreme - 00:40:235 (11,12) - y u anti-jump, if you insist on keeping it put a NC on (11)
11:11 <Sync> : did that combo burst suggestion thing
11:11 <Sync> : lol wtf
11:11 <Sync> : see
11:11 <Sync> : my map
11:11 <Jacob> : wuut
11:11 <Sync> : is HAUNTED
11:11 <Sync> : I ~never~ aligned it like that
11:11 <Sync> : (12)
11:11 <Sync> : on extreme
11:11 <Sync> : ffff
11:12 <Jacob> : :O
11:12 <Jacob> : and that's all I have to say.
11:12 <Jacob> : Good map
11:12 <Sync> : ok thx for the mod