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Higu's Jump Training

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What level are you on?

Level 1 - 4
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Level -1 - 0
133
5.08%
Level 5 - 8
302
11.53%
Level 9 - 12
132
5.04%
Level 13 - 16
183
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84
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582
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higurush
313 posts
Joined December 2010
Topic Starter
higurush

WVSagi wrote:

Dude,
i know that this thread isn't a Perfect jump training at all,
but seriously, at least leave a good comment or an advice that will helps.
he needs an advice to make this better, but why did you give a negative comments?
what the poot is wrong with you lol, and yeah i also think that some levels and parts aren't well balanced,
but why we don't try to give an advice to make it better
but since i'm still on LVL12, i can't help much at all.
well, good luck higu.
I'll do my best with a great smile on my face, even if I see some rude comments:)

silmarilen wrote:

i gave him info, and i get told to "get better at that song at a low level that i cant beat while i can beat songs at higher levels, because otherwise i cant beat later levels (which i just said i already did)"
sorry, but you must be kidding right?
FAQ changed from that time. Also your advices were put in real. State which map should I put into which level. Or share some new maps if you have or which maps should be deleted. But remember. Each level should contain a minimum of 4 maps:)
efexx_old
1 post
Joined January 2012
efexx_old
contributing~

lvl 11
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/52245

lvl 15
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/85550&m=0 (another another hardrock could be like level 18)

lvl 17
osu.ppy.sh/b/65756

lvl 19
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/18826
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/141722

lvl 20
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/106965&m=0 (unexpected and ignore's another)


imo masterpiece should be higher since its a song that i never beat cause its deceptive jumps are 2x faster than they appear to be >_> its like 2x harder than emerald sword really.
Tom69_old
Tom69_old

efexx wrote:

lvl 19
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/18826
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/141722

lvl 20
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/106965&m=0 (unexpected and ignore's another)


imo masterpiece should be higher since its a song that i never beat cause its deceptive jumps are 2x faster than they appear to be >_> its like 2x harder than emerald sword really.
Hope you don't mind if I correct those a bit. Being blunt, imho only people actually being at a level should contribute maps for it...
Anti you clearly got harder jumps than airman, even equal or harder than pony, mainly in the end. It definitely should be 20.
I wouldn't put Sticks and Stones into 19... the jumps might be big but slow. Maybe put it into 20 with DoubleTime, but definitely not without.
Ignore's another should go into 19 while I doubt anyone except Cookiezi (maybe not even him, but well... he is Cookiezi) could even PASS unexpected. This one imho even is above 20.

I'll repeat as lolcubes (I think it was him) also said: Pony is harder than Airman HR. It should be 20 instead.


This one could still be 20:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/43095 (it got some 2B elements though... dunno if you should add it, need more opinions)
Also, this one is another candidate for ABOVE 20:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/30923 (hope this is the right one)
silmarilen
5,579 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen
well. first of all, when the rain begins to fall is easier than the other maps in that level, i would suggest putting it in level 0 instead.

i dont have every map on the list so i cant really tell right now about other maps and their location, but there are also a lot of maps that are in a higher difficulty just because they are harder overall but their jumps arent that hard (kokou no sosei, as i showed before) and there are also maps lower because their jumps arent so hard while the map in itself is impossible for certain people.
also some of the higher levels have songs that are way easier than other songs in the same (or lower) level.
matryoshka and kokou no sousei are hard because of their high bpm single tap, but overall they arent that difficult.
no,39 on the other hand, i dont see myself even getting a B on that with nofail on, same with songs that are on even lower levels.
higurush
313 posts
Joined December 2010
Topic Starter
higurush
quoting

efexx wrote:

contributing~
lvl 11 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/52245
lvl 15 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/85550&m=0 (another another hardrock could be like level 18)
lvl 17 osu.ppy.sh/b/65756
lvl 19 http://osu.ppy.sh/s/18826 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/141722
lvl 20 http://osu.ppy.sh/b/106965&m=0 (unexpected and ignore's another)
imo masterpiece should be higher since its a song that i never beat cause its deceptive jumps are 2x faster than they appear to be >_> its like 2x harder than emerald sword really.

Tom94 wrote:

Hope you don't mind if I correct those a bit. Being blunt, imho only people actually being at a level should contribute maps for it... Anti you clearly got harder jumps than airman, even equal or harder than pony, mainly in the end. It definitely should be 20. I wouldn't put Sticks and Stones into 19... the jumps might be big but slow. Maybe put it into 20 with DoubleTime, but definitely not without. Ignore's another should go into 19 while I doubt anyone except Cookiezi (maybe not even him, but well... he is Cookiezi) could even PASS unexpected. This one imho even is above 20. I'll repeat as lolcubes (I think it was him) also said: Pony is harder than Airman HR. It should be 20 instead. This one could still be 20: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/43095 (it got some 2B elements though... dunno if you should add it, need more opinions) Also, this one is another candidate for ABOVE 20: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/30923 (hope this is the right one)

silmarilen wrote:

well. first of all, when the rain begins to fall is easier than the other maps in that level, i would suggest putting it in level 0 instead. i dont have every map on the list so i cant really tell right now about other maps and their location, but there are also a lot of maps that are in a higher difficulty just because they are harder overall but their jumps arent that hard (kokou no sosei, as i showed before) and there are also maps lower because their jumps arent so hard while the map in itself is impossible for certain people. also some of the higher levels have songs that are way easier than other songs in the same (or lower) level. matryoshka and kokou no sousei are hard because of their high bpm single tap, but overall they arent that difficult. no,39 on the other hand, i dont see myself even getting a B on that with nofail on, same with songs that are on even lower levels.

To efexx: see the Change log:) Maps were put in.
To Tom94: for this map: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/43095
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The Auto mod couldn't even do that without a miss. Also what are those extra circle's on the sliders? Wouldn't it be better if they have been replaced with sliderticks?
To silmarilen: for "rain begins to fall" read FAQ #9 (small sentences are important too). So you should state a new map if you would like to get that easy map out of level 1. (Sorry, but at the moment I haven't got any new easy+ maps in my mind)
for "matryoshka and kokou no sousei and no,39" read FAQ #8. I wrote some useful tips for those maps like them. That's why it's in the same level as those maps.
And for those unbalanced level. I could also refer to FAQ #9. State the song which should be put into which level.

Also I am very thankful for all your comments and advices. I would like to mention people who helped me with this thread:)
Tom69_old
Tom69_old

higurush wrote:

To Tom94: for this map: http://osu.ppy.sh/s/43095
SPOILER
The Auto mod couldn't even do that without a miss. Also what are those extra circle's on the sliders? Wouldn't it be better if they have been replaced with sliderticks?
Those are said 2B (2 button) elements. You have to play it with 2 Buttons simultanously. That's why I said that it might not really fit, as it is unrankable.
Btw, if you'd like to test some more "possible" 2B maps... those are pretty well mapped: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/97060
higurush
313 posts
Joined December 2010
Topic Starter
higurush

Tom94 wrote:

Those are said 2B (2 button) elements. You have to play it with 2 Buttons simultanously. That's why I said that it might not really fit, as it is unrankable. Btw, if you'd like to test some more "possible" 2B maps... those are pretty well mapped: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/97060
Agh 2Buttons are a bit out of my range. I regurarly swich my fingers during play, so it's kinda Impossibru! to fc any of them :d
Tom69_old
Tom69_old
I'd put DeltaMAX @ Unexpected into the bonus stage. In the end there are 500 BPM screen-jumps. I don't know anyone who could even pass the map.
higurush
313 posts
Joined December 2010
Topic Starter
higurush

Tom94 wrote:

I'd put DeltaMAX @ Unexpected into the bonus stage. In the end there are 500 BPM screen-jumps. I don't know anyone who could even pass the map.
done:)
today I get to know another jump compilation which contains some fine maps. tomorrow, I'll put them into the levels.
those
3,136 posts
Joined November 2010
those

Tom94 wrote:

Those are said 2B (2 button) elements. You have to play it with 2 Buttons simultanously. That's why I said that it might not really fit, as it is unrankable.
Btw, if you'd like to test some more "possible" 2B maps... those are pretty well mapped: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/97060
Gotta love Symphonic Love.
silmarilen
5,579 posts
Joined February 2010
silmarilen
here is a nice map with some difficult jump patterns in the 2nd half. probably worthy of lvl 17 or 18
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/39953

another nice map with interesting jumps a couple of lvls lower, maybe lvl 13-14? not sure
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/40071

same with this one
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/34469

also what about kokou no sousei [chaos] diff? lvl 20 map?
Tom69_old
Tom69_old

silmarilen wrote:

also what about kokou no sousei [chaos] diff? lvl 20 map?
I'd put it alongside Airman HR @ level 19. It's an easier A iin comparison to that imho.
higurush
313 posts
Joined December 2010
Topic Starter
higurush
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Tom94 wrote:

Those are said 2B (2 button) elements. You have to play it with 2 Buttons simultanously. That's why I said that it might not really fit, as it is unrankable. Btw, if you'd like to test some more "possible" 2B maps... those are pretty well mapped: http://osu.ppy.sh/b/97060

those wrote:

Gotta love Symphonic Love.

silmarilen wrote:

here is a nice map with some difficult jump patterns in the 2nd half. probably worthy of lvl 17 or 18
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/39953
another nice map with interesting jumps a couple of lvls lower, maybe lvl 13-14? not sure
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/40071
same with this one
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/34469
also what about kokou no sousei [chaos] diff? lvl 20 map?

Tom94 wrote:

silmarilen wrote:

also what about kokou no sousei [chaos] diff? lvl 20 map?
I'd put it alongside Airman HR @ level 19. It's an easier A iin comparison to that imho.

Changelog wrote:

March 22:
1 new song in LVL 19
3 new songs in LVL 17
2 new songs in LVL 15
1 new song in LVL 14
1 new song in LVL 20+
1 new song in LVL 16
2 new songs in LVL 3
1 new song in LVL 5
1 new song in LVL 16
1 new song in LVL 6
bananaman533
20 posts
Joined December 2011
bananaman533
Pretty sure Eoin O Broin - Oblivion is too high and Eoin O Broin - Deep Space[Another] is too low.
pielak213
463 posts
Joined April 2010
pielak213
attempting to contribute

lvl 16
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/33192
lvl 18
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/24521
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/36077 + DT
level 20
the tag4 from lvl 19 should be in 20 or 20+ or cxu is the only person able to be level 19+

play them first before adding b/c I don't konw if theyre considered jumpy. I am level 17 (or -1 b/c i didn't bother doing the levels before)
Izayaa_old
5 posts
Joined December 2011
Izayaa_old
THANK YOU!
Mirage
627 posts
Joined May 2011
Mirage
This sounds cool, and I could pass some time.
I'll begin from Level 8, cause they are fun :D

STATUS: JUMP CHAMPION

Level 8 PASSED 3/5 S
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Poinsettia A 3 X
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285555
Wow, I can't get a nice accuracy there.
Put this map at level 10 or so.

Hourai Victim A 1 X
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285558
Lol 1 random miss.

Kusaregedou no Chocolate S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285559

Innocent Treasures S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285561

Lorelei S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285574

Level 9 PASSED 5/5 S
SPOILER
Unhappy Refrain S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285591

Taketori Hishou S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285625

Tokyo Teddy Bear S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285597

Feyris Nyan Nyan S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285602

Rapture S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285605

Level 10 PASSED 4/7 S
SPOILER
Ridorii A 1 X
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285608
Like...seriously? Last notes.

Taketori Hishou S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285595
Probably one of my best records.

Romantic Children S HIDDEN
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285626
Top40 score.

Necrofantasia S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285632

Silence S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285633

Reset A 5 X
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285641
Wow, this is hard.
Put this map at level 12 or so.

Motteke! A 4 X
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285649
I'd remove this map from the list.

Level 11
SPOILER
Chanteikku Sanyousei no Itazura Daisensou S
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285654

My Pace de Ikimashou A 7 X
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285662

Gold Dust A 2 X
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/285665
Wishy
2,974 posts
Joined September 2010
Wishy
This training makes no sense from the point there are different kind of "jumps" and he isn't, from the little I've red, explained them at all.

To make it simple, you may be pro at jumps, still miss everything when you see some pattern like a square, or when you get tornado combos, or those pattern where spacing gets bigger and bigger during a 1/2 stream. Not gonna make a huge post but basically you can't really judge a jump map by what it looks, but by what it plays.
K47
3 posts
Joined July 2012
K47
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/24313
Am I Level 19?

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/57255
or 20?
Lavale_old
47 posts
Joined March 2012
Lavale_old

Piko wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/24313
Am I Level 19?

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/57255
or 20?
Brace yourself, because you have made a necropost

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