why not just make it circle feat. singer each time the vocalist isnt in the circle lmao that way both get credit
why not just make it circle feat. singer each time the vocalist isnt in the circle lmao that way both get creditactually like... yeah. It's worked well with RD-Sounds in the last few months, this would help deal with the mess that is circles. Although you have the potential issue of stuff like https://osu.ppy.sh/s/790310 where you have a composer that's well known plus a circle plus a vocalist
When a song is released by a circle, the circle name is preferred for the artist field. If a composer is independently well known outside of the circle, they can be used as artist. In the case of songs with vocalists, the following formats can be used: [Circle] feat. [Vocalist] or [Composer] feat. [Vocalist].
Delete CirclesFuck that rule imo. Leaving it up to choice is meh, leaving it up to "most common way" to do it is meh too because it increases resarch effortFor songs belonging to doujin circles, the circle name must be used over the vocalist or composer, unless these contributors are not part of the circle. In these cases the priority falls on vocalist followed by composer for instrumental songs.Instead of making things simpler, this has made the artist field more complex due to the research required to determine whether those who made a song are actually proper members of the circle or just guests for that one release.
there's 1 or 2 things we could do
1.) delete circle rule entirely (leaving it up choice based off what is more sensible to the specific song or consistent with previous maps.. like it was before)
2.) make any release under a circle be credited to a circle regardless of whether the song's creators are proper members of the circle.
Nah, just romanisations we did that intentionally. This doesn't add much for the actual doing, but it clarifies the most common question you get when checking metadata because it says the first officially listed thing you find is usable instead of leaving this up in the air
This is weirdIf a song or artist are referred to in multiple ways on official sources provided by the artist, the mapper is free to choose any of the romanisations. The only exception to this is if the song already has a mapset in the Ranked Section, in which case the corresponding guideline applies to it.I don't think this was supposed to say romanisations, just apply to metadata in general, oops...
honestly, is this really needed? it's not like we say you must use a specific kind of source to reference for metadata to begin with.
There's a loophole hereyeah, oops wow let's go with that suggestionAny form of CV: such as CV,, Cv, Cv. and the likes are to be written as CV: only. If only the character is credited in any sources, the CV: marker has to be added to satisfy traceability to existing people. If such a marker is added to an artist, they must be added following the fictional character the character voice actor represents.This accidentally lead to a loophole that Character (Voice Actor) does not require CV: to be added.
Should probably fix that to just be Character (CV: Voice Actor) in all cases.
Whenever a fictional character or characters are credited as the singer of a song, the artist field is to be formatted in a Character (CV: Voice Actor) format, where "Character" would be the character name and "Voice Actor" the name of the actual person behind them.
Source is a headacheThis was never intended as such, at least I meant it as "as long as it's used in X it's fine" as long as it's obvious that whoever used it had to actually license itYou must use the Source field if the song comes from, is remixed from or specifically fan-made for a video game, movie, or series. Website names are not an acceptable Artist nor Source.When the song has appeared in multiple medias, even after its initial release, it may use the source that the mapset is themed around (Backgrounds, Storyboards, Videos, etc.) as long as the song itself appeared in it.If a series applicable to be used as a source is clustered into multiple sub-series, the most precise label should be prioritised.we somehow ended up splitting source into 1 rule and 2 guidelines that half do the same thing as the old rule and half make it more of a headache, because sometimes it's really hard to determine if a song came from the source or if it was put in there later (making the source only usable if the map is explicitly "themed" around it)
delete these and revert to the old rule, thanks
This needs revisionDepends on the order you read it in, honestly - always specifying that TV Sizes are exempt seemed like so much mroe text because i didnt know how many rules will end up ignoring this lulUse the metadata of a song as is without adding any additional markers, such as Full Version and the likes. If your track is a mashup or something among those lines, use whatever the artist supplies while paying respect to proper English syntax rules.It directly contradicts the TV Size rule demanding you add TV Size
It also directly contradictsIf the creator of the mapset has done major edits to the .mp3, they are free to name it appropriately to signal that this song is a special version. In this case the original songs must still be clearly indicated in order for players to be able to search for the original songs.which says you CAN add stuff to it, as long as you edit it enough.
suggestion to fix this
Change the rule "Use the metadata of a song as is..." toUse the metadata of a song as is without modification, unless the modification is specified or allowed by other rules in the Ranking Criteria
Robotsthe one circle of people or person making the AI that made the music created the music, easy
celerih has pointed out thatThe artists of a song must be traceable to existing people. As such, programs like Vocaloids or fictional characters cannot be used as the sole artist of any given song.does not account for songs that may be entirely composed by robots/ai. I think it would be sensible to allow crediting of the robots/ai in such cases, but I personally can not figure out a good wording to account for that.
Delete thisSuggestion: reword it into the requirement to tag as many similar or different ways to write your shit as possible if you find double width shitSpecial characters that have both a full-width and half-width equivalent must retain their original printing forms if they are used in the unicode artist fields, so that searching while copying and pasting the original song title is always possible. This does not apply to additional information that is printed in half-width to begin with because searching for these will be ambiguous no matter what.a.) the rule that the metadata shouldn't be modified unless it is done to follow the rules would already cover this
b.) the rules in metadata about standardizing cv tags, tv size, vs, etc, etc, etc, already make copy paste searching more difficult. So it doesn't really help in that aspect.
"Regarding half-width & full-width usages of characters in the Unicode & source fields:My original post. Let's aim for this instead. Standardization edits like vs. and whitespaces should also be included in this as exempt.
(Brought up to me by S o h)
Special characters should retain their original full-width/half-width characters in the Unicode fields. An exception to this is when it used for additional complimentary info like the CV section or mix descriptors. Improper usages can result in errors while searching. https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10623085
Example using "カラフル。（Extended edit）"
The period cannot be substituted for its counterpart. "カラフル.（Extended edit）" is not acceptable.
The parenthesis may be either half or full-width. "カラフル。(Extended edit)" is acceptable.
Original width usages should still be prioritized in the unicode field when possible. "
What about the casts that have an internal band name? Like for "Zettai Tokken Shuchou Shimasu!" there are just 5 singers ( Airi Totoki, Akane Hino, Aiko Takamori, Syoko Hoshi, and Yuko Hori , omitting the CV's), and thus could use Various Artists, But the group of these singers is "Zekkenzu!", Under that case, should one put just "Zekkenzu!" at Artists? All the singers with their CV's? or Various Artists?That's a nice one, Idol Units/Broadcast Units are a common thing in the voice acting scene nowadays. I'd go for "Unit Name - Song Name" and adding CVs and characters' names in the tags.