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2012 Secret Santa Mafia | Game Over - Flawless Mafia Victory

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Lilac
Your plan was terrible.

You should feel ashamed. Unless you're Mafia in which case you should feel angry.
Chris_old
1.) I didn't advocate a lurker lynch, Dusty didn't lurk. I advocated lynching anyone who roleclaimed after they were up for a lynch and had a role that would be useful to mafia. Mafia don't have to read the thread to play though, makes sense why you've been inactive till the last day though.

2.) step your game up, this doesn't even make sense

3.) it made no difference to anything

4.) I said vote on it multiple times

that seemed like a pretty desperate attempt and you screenshotting a post doesn't make your points any more valid

ignore my points and continue to post garbage Lilac, it's all you've done so far
Lilac
You've ignored my points as well...

See where this is going?
Lilac
You decide people.

It's either me or him. I'm claiming bulletproof.


Later. School starts tomorrow for most private Australian schools.
Chris_old

Lilac wrote:

You've ignored my points as well...

See where this is going?
I addressed everything you said, which was hardly anything by the way.

way to admit it you ignored my points though

if you weren't so inactive and posted more than one sentence at a time you would of been lynched d2


Lilac: look at me I'm town because I posted in big bold letters and gave you an ultimatum
Lilac
The fact is I wasn't...are you mad now because someone's against you now? Or how your plans to win with Mashley failed?

Unvote, Vote: Chris If Two has some crud with needing to unvote before voting someone.
Lilac
I wasn't lynched D2*

Look, I'm Chris. I edit my posts. Hurr durr.
Topic Starter
Two_old
Vote Count
dkun (2): Mashley, Salvage
Wojjan (1): pieguy1372
JInxyjem (1): Wojjan
Lilac (1): Chris
Mashley (1): JInxyjem
Chris (1): Lilac
Lilac
Sorry to be a dick but final nail in the coffin.

I believe Chris used the opportunity of Mashley being a Vengeful to lynch him while he knowingly agrees with Mashley for a dkun lynch which would essentially be two town gone plus NK. When he realised that no-one else wanted dkun lynched, the plan turned sour and then he went for me to start accusing.
Chris_old

Lilac wrote:

Sorry to be a dick but final nail in the coffin.

I believe Chris used the opportunity of Mashley being a Vengeful to lynch him while he knowingly agrees with Mashley for a dkun lynch which would essentially be two town gone plus NK. When he realised that no-one else wanted dkun lynched, the plan turned sour and then he went for me to start accusing.
that was a terrible attempt at turning around the fact you wouldn't unvote mashley even after calling me scum multiple times

I wouldn't let someone decide who I killed if it was my vengeful, and you're still assuming mashley is even town

of course you know he is but that's beside the point

funnily enough you seem to ignore the fact that mafia would have influence over who he picked which is why I assume you were so for the voting part

I would hardly say "no-one else" wanted dkun lynch, considering the person who you know, makes the decision did

even if he agreed to it that still doesn't make it a for sure he wont kill him regardless

and I said multiple times to vote on it, so your entire argument is crap as usual

I attacked you for being terrible and calling me scum and then agreeing with everything I said

your opinion changes depending on what a majority think which means you = mafia

also your ego is way too big and way too undeserved

and one last thing, why did you keep your vote on mashley that entire time if you assumed I was mafia? and this time don't ignore it
Lilac
To be honest, I was not confident. In fact, I was hesitant.

That's the reason why.
Salvage
if we're not doing that mashley lynch then im not moving mine from dkun for now, i don't know where you guys see town on him but i for sure don't



i dont give a fuck if he's new
dkun
not even open to reason anymore salvage? wow, why don't you read the last 4 pages while you're at it
you're just as bad as a novice, if not worse
i've played mafia longer than you've been on osu!

but as the day winds out, i'm sure this doesn't matter, as no one else wants to listen to common sense
imho lilac is perfectly sound, so is chris, but I still get a scummy feeling behind the mashley lynch and his approach at it
vote: Chris
Salvage
sadly thats not true and you trying to understimate me confirms it



i don't need to play for years to be better than you, the mashley lynch is the best choice for town right now, if it's not going to be done then we're lynching you cause u can't be scummier, seems like those years of mafia experience didn't serve you as to how to play as mafia, and i won't let that go sry :(
Chris_old

dkun wrote:

but as the day winds out, i'm sure this doesn't matter, as no one else wants to listen to common sense
oh god the irony
Wojjan
why the fuck would anyone take a printscreen of a post in editor to show they suspected the other first
why why why

fuck this game
Wojjan
vote: lilac or whatever?
sure let's
Chris_old

Wojjan wrote:

vote: lilac or whatever?
sure let's
unvote because two will be like doesn't count

same reason my vote on sync didn't go through

also thank god someone isn't retarded
Salvage
if dkun is mafia then Lilac is mafia



i'd rather lynch dkun than lilac cause im not sure about lilac and i am about dkun.



i'd go for a safe lynch but if that's no gonna happen we can lynch lilac idk




what do you think mashley/jinx/pieguy/mara
Wojjan
unvote, vote lilac
I want to do lilac first even if you are so dang sure dkun is scum.
Salvage
unvote, vote Lilac


w/e
Mashley
dkun is mega scum. And yes if you lynch me I will kill him.
And oh my good Lilac is back and forth like hell. He's seeming scummier by the second. But dkun is way scummier, you can't reasonably doubt that. I can't believe that yet again we have been sidetracked from lynching him.
Salvage
yes i do feel the same as you mashley but lilac is defending him to death without any argument of doing so, that's why i think that either way if dkun is mafia he's mafia



with that said i feel like lynching dkun is the safest and best move to do, but they're probabbly both scum so it's not much of a difference anyways
Mashley
Well then we should lynch dkun today and assuming he turns up mafia lynch Lilac tomorrow
Salvage
yep, i actually think that's the best choice
Chris_old
as long as lilac is guaranteed lynched tomorrow if dkun flips mafia I will vote for them
Salvage
fair enough



unvote, vote dkun
Chris_old
unvote, vote dkun
Wojjan
I...

whatevs

unvote vote dkun
Salvage
chris watch wojjan


wojjan protect chris





if mashley dies he kills another mafia (i think lilac being bulletproof do not protect the vengefull kill or does it?)






@mod: does Bulletproof protects vengefull kill?







everyone else vote dkun pls
Salvage
^


that way we'll probabbly 100% hit mafia tommorrow too (atleast from my point of view on who are mafia) :


pieguy, Lilac, dkun and Mara imo
Chris_old
if I get killed, wojjan is protecting me and I'm watching wojjan so I find out who

that is pretty smart
Salvage
thank u
Wojjan
if you get killed you won't get anything, maf targets you, not me. you'll get no report on me, but if you selfwatch you get "mafname + my name"
Chris_old
I can't self watch :(
Salvage
then let it be wifom on who you watch chris.



since if you selfwatch they kill wojjan instead, wifom wifom wifom
Salvage
then whatever we pretty much know who to lynch tommorrow we'll see after that
Salvage
im going home back in an hour or two
Mashley

Salvage wrote:

if mashley dies he kills another mafia (i think lilac being bulletproof do not protect the vengefull kill or does it?)
Vengeful only applies to lynches afaik.
Salvage
those are the kind of things u dont have to sayyy



ok whatever we'll see tommorrow then x.x
bmin11
Whatever. If we lose, we lose. I don't feel the motivation anymore.

vote: dkun
Mara
Hmmp. Fine.

Vote: dkun
Topic Starter
Two_old

Salvage wrote:

@mod: does Bulletproof protects vengefull kill?
no


Vote Count
dkun (6): Mashley, Salvage, Chris, Wojjan, bmin11, LunaticMara
Chris (2): Lilac, dkun
Wojjan (1): pieguy1372
Mashley (1): JInxyjem

dkun - Employee (Town) - Odd Night Commuter has been lynched.
Topic Starter
Two_old
It's now Night 5. You have 24 hours until Day 6.
dkun
gl hf
go mafia
Wojjan
mod: If I can't get replaced for some dumb reason can I ask for a modkill
Topic Starter
Two_old
I tried to replace you, got no reply, then you started being active again so I stopped trying.

either way I'd rather you just stuck around
Salvage
no, dont go wojjan pls
Wojjan
this game is terrible and you basically know what you're gonna do for the next n days regardless
do you really need me around to lynch me because why am I still alive?
Salvage
i need you arround cause im not happy without you


please stay my love
Topic Starter
Two_old
k I'm just going to end night super prematurely since everyone was fast this time ^_^

bmin11 - Employee (Town) - Nurse has been killed

It's now Day 6. You have 72 hours until Night 6. It takes 5 votes to lynch.
Chris_old
vote: Lilac
Salvage
vote: Lilac
Mara
....I don't fucking care anymore.

vote: Lilac
Lilac
You didn't even give out your D1 or D2 results... You're a terrible liar.

I don't care either... Vote: Lilac.
Jinxy
Vote: Lilac
Topic Starter
Two_old
MAFIA WIN

Role List:

Dusty - Employee (Town) - Vigilante
Rantai - Employee (Town) - Bodyguard
Sync - Employee (Town) - Role Cop
Ivalset - Employee (Town) - Role Cop
animask - Employee (Town) - Bodyguard
akrolsmir - Employee (Town) - Tracker
foulcoon - Employee (Town) - Bodyguard
Lilac - Employee (Town) - 1-shot Bulletproof
bmin11 - Employee (Town) - Nurse
dkun - Employee (Town) - Odd Night Commuter
pieguy1372 - Employee (Town) - Role Cop
Mashley - Employee (Town) - Vengeful Vanilla
Wojjan - Employee (Town) - Bodyguard
LadySuburu - Employee (Town) - Role Cop
Salvage - Insane Employee (Mafia) - 1-shot Bulletproof
LunaticMara - Insane Employee (Mafia) - 1-shot Encryptor
JInxyjem - Insane Employee (Mafia) - Role Cop
Chris - Insane Employee (Mafia) - Watcher


Town MVP: Lilac

Mafia MVP: Chris


Mafia Chat: http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/2hS2tdJUhgbP

Encryptor Chat: http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/yLgHgC7Zfcj8



Role Pool:
SPOILER
Deputy (same ability as cop, 33% success rate, 33% chance (separate roll) to be revealed to mafia)
Cop (50% chance to be revealed to mafia)
1-shot Paranoid Gun Owner (1-shot as in only active for the night it is triggered)
1-shot Governor
Watcher
Vote Thief
Restless Spirit (vote counts towards faction and game's total)
1-shot Lynchproof (ends day still)
1-shot Lightning Rod (passive)
Hider
Friendly Neighbor (50% chance to fail, 100% chance to fail as mafia)
Tracker
Vengeful Vanilla
Doublevoter
Doctor
Jailkeeper (doesn't work if you are the unprotected night kill target)
Roleblocker
Redirector (may target themselves once per game)
Vigilante (1 bullet, accuracy reduced to 50% if 2 vigilantes, 33% if 3, 25% if 4, -5% per additonal)
Bodyguard
Bus Driver (can't self-target)
Vanilla
1-shot Bulletproof (applies to vigilante kills as well)
Odd Night Commuter
1-shot targetable Encryptor (1-shot as in it establishes a permanent chat link to another player)
Nurse (same ability as a doctor, only 33% chance to work)
Rolecop

Actions

Night 1:
SPOILER
ivalset -> rolescan pieguy1372
wojjan -> guard chris
bmin11 -> protect wojjan
animask -> no action
JInxyjem -> rolescan wojjan
rantai -> no action
pieguy1372 -> rolescan wojjan
lunaticmara -> encrypt salvage
chris -> watch mashley
mafia -> kill Rantai

Night 2:
SPOILER
animask -> no action
bmin11 -> protect chris
ivalset -> rolescan ladysuburu
chris - > watch pieguy1372
foulcoon - > guard jinxyjem
pieguy1372 -> rolescan mashley
wojjan -> guard chris
ladysuburu - > rolescan wojjan
akrolsmir - > track pieguy1372
mafia - > kill ivalset

Night 3:
SPOILER
akrolsmir - > track wojjan
foulcoon - > guard LadySuburu
ladysuburu - > rolescan Lilac
jinxyjem -> rolescan foulcoon
bmin11 - > protect Chris
dkun - > commute
chris - > watch dkun
mafia - > kill akrolsmir

Night 4:
SPOILER
chris - > watch pieguy1372
jinxyjem - > rolescan bmin11
pieguy1372 - > rolescan dkun
bmin11 - > protect ladysuburu (failed)
ladysuburu - > rolescan bmin11
mafia - > kill ladysuburu

Night 5:
SPOILER
Wojjan - > guard chris
bmin11 - > protect chris
chris - > watch wojjan
pieguy1372 - > rolescan JInxyjem
mafia - > kill bmin11



Secret Santa Assignments
SPOILER
1. Lilac BUYS FOR Wojjan
2. Sync BUYS FOR 10. pieguy1372.
3. Chris BUYS FOR 8. animask.
4. JInxyjem BUYS FOR Ivalset
5. Salvage BUYS FOR 3. Chris.
6. bmin11 BUYS FOR 12. Dafydd.
7. dkun BUYS FOR 11. Rantai.
8. animask BUYS FOR 7. dkun.
9. NoHItter BUYS FOR 2. Sync.
10. pieguy1372 BUYS FOR Lilac
11. Rantai BUYS FOR 6. bmin11.
12. Dafydd BUYS FOR 9. NoHItter.
13. foulcoon BUYS FOR Mashley
14. mashley BUYS FOR 4. JInxyjem.
15. wojjan BUYS FOR 13. foulcoon.
16. lunaticmara BUYS FOR 5. Salvage.
17. dusty BUYS FOR LunaticMara
18. ivalset BUYS FOR Dusty



Mechanics

I first made a list of all of the roles that I felt could function in this setup. Then, I separated those roles based on whether or not they would be gamebreaking if duplicated. Every player slot was numbered 1-18. After looking at all of the potential roles and the uncertainty, I decided that 4 mafia would be a fair amount. So I rolled 1-18 4 times to get my mafia slots. From there, I used another randomizer on my list of roles that couldn't be duplicated, and numbered them 1-17 (there were only 17 ). Then, I used yet another randomizer to choose secret santa assignments. After that, I gave out the exact same list to every player, with 1 additional overpowered role (that corresponded to their slot).


Additional Notes

I have a few regrets. First of all, I regret the two mistakes I made that I informed you about (accidentally giving Sync role cop, messing up encryptor description). I didn't feel as though the encyrptor description mistake was that big of a deal. I thought if you wanted to know that you would just ask me, and at least 1 person did. The only reason I brought it up was for it's potential to validate claims. The Sync mistake happened because so many people were picking role cop/bodyguard that I ended up using role cop as a template for the role pms. The other things I regret are making the mafia win condition "vote majority", and not including an extra role on Ivalset's santa list.
Chris_old
that's how you play mafia~

also I should of been town mvp too
Salvage

Two wrote:

Mafia MVP: Chris


fuck off two
Topic Starter
Two_old
it was close between him and jinxyjem

you came in 4th sry
Mara




I was MVP in general, I did nothing.
Rantai
That was the most painful thing to watch.

Gw mafia.
Chris_old

Rantai wrote:

That was the most painful thing to watch.

Gw mafia.
sorry about killing you d1 :(

I knew you would be too much of a rebel
Jinxy
the encryptor chat was enlightening
Sync
lol good job mafia
Lilac
Eh.

Not sure what to say. I was right though. Mostly.
Mara
I TOLD YOU DOG

I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE MINTTU
Lilac
I dunno why I was MVP though... I couldn't get a mafia I mostly knew D3 lynched.

I did honestly want you lynched cause your second video was bad though, Mara... Essentially, I am almost NEVER confident with anything I do when it comes to scumhunting, the only real thing I need to do is someone to push me... Whether it's annoying me or just some info role... Probably why I suck at mafia...
Mara
Ivalset
So many role cops.
Jinxy
ikr
It's like giving nothing at all
Chris_old

JInxyjem wrote:

ikr
It's like giving nothing at all
except it's amazing for mafia
Mara
I got a killing spree.

I am so good at this.
dkun
gj mafia
pieguyn
hey I was right about Chris, JInxy, and Salvage

Then again I didn't have a chance to post today. :?

LunaticMara actually fooled me though, rofl. I thought he was town. I thought the fourth mafia was Wojjan.
Salvage
yes i said lynch lunaticmara since day one but nobody listen to me anyways
Wojjan
man I wish I was scum this setup would have been cake
Salvage
why


the roles didn't do anything, the only thing that actually mattered was scumhunting .. it wasn't a piece of cake for mafia (it was but not cause of the setup), town just did awfully bad with almost everyone on them acting anti town
akrolsmir
Only one I ended up guessing correctly was Salvage. Oh well.
Chris_old
akrolsmir that actually makes you good

anyone who suspected me is terrible because everything I said was completely pro town

Chris wrote:

Someone protect pieguy please.
I was proud of that move~ sync helped

I thought you were a doctor when we killed you akrolsmir lol
bmin11
The only reason I had for Chris is the same reasons I used for Wojjan and Salvage. Other then that, I don't think I can come up with any.
Lilac

Chris wrote:

anyone who suspected me is terrible because everything I said was completely pro town
I lol'd cause it wasn't. Also enough osu! games should make you realize the most town sounding people are probably scum as well.
Chris_old

Lilac wrote:

Chris wrote:

anyone who suspected me is terrible because everything I said was completely pro town
I lol'd cause it wasn't. Also enough osu! games should make you realize the most town sounding people are probably scum as well.
I lol'd cause your logic contradicts itself

and the fact you believe what you just wrote just shows that you're bad
Salvage
i lol'd cause what lilacs says its not true but that doesn't mean you weren't scummy chris sry
Chris_old

Salvage wrote:

i lol'd cause what lilacs says its not true but that doesn't mean you weren't scummy chris sry
#1 mvp right here

go crawl back to 4th place sry
Lilac
*yawn*

No it doesn't.
Salvage

Chris wrote:

Salvage wrote:

i lol'd cause what lilacs says its not true but that doesn't mean you weren't scummy chris sry
#1 mvp right here

go crawl back to 4th place sry


:(




i was the worst mafiaaaaaaa :( :( :(
Chris_old

Lilac wrote:

*yawn*

No it doesn't.
spoken like someone who actually understands the argument they're making
Lilac
You were scum.

Who cares? ^_^
Chris_old

Lilac wrote:

You were scum.

Who cares? ^_^
if you call everyone mafia of course you're going to be right eventually

regardless of the fact you "knew" I was mafia you still couldn't do anything about it

so who cares? ^_^
Lilac
I called Jinx, animask, Salvage and you mafia...

What?
Salvage
so scummy this chris guy



the whole game
Chris_old

Salvage wrote:

so scummy this chris guy



the whole game
don't have to hide your insecurities salvage we're all friends here~
Lilac
Anyway, GJ though.
Mara
I wasn't scummy as fuck?

Damn. I really tried.
Topic Starter
Two_old
people interpret being aloof as being town
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