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2012 Secret Santa Mafia | Game Over - Flawless Mafia Victory

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dkun
seeing you can't spell, maybe it's true salvage

but ok, i'm town and you can lynch me to see
Mashley

dkun wrote:

pure rage?
I haven't even gotten mad once this game

holy shit you are blind
maybe you can't tell the difference between being mad and being blunt
Call it what you want, but you are acting ridiculously defensive. Stop taking suspicion as some sort of personal attack because it's not.
Fuck why am I giving the mafia advice?
Salvage

dkun wrote:

seeing you can't spell, maybe it's true salvage

but ok, i'm town and you can lynch me to see


forgive me for having another lenguage mr english
Salvage
also diverting attention from your crappy play and obvious scummy behavior into my fail english its not gonna work dkun



as i said help town or get lynched, and that "i'll help town" thing doesn't work neither, do it now thx.
Mashley
Yeah seriously, using spelling as an argument in mafia? Come on dude, that's reaally weak.
dkun
being retarded is a crime, salvage
especially in mafia

so what do you want me to say? omg jump on bandwagon lynch foulcoon?
nty

who died and made you the almighty savior for all of us
Salvage
you're doing the exact opposite actually



do your thoughts on every player to start with



flaming being that bad its pretty funny tho, but it makes things a little harder since it makes me want to lynch you and from your point of view it'd hurt town and u still push it :(.
dkun
I can't understand what the hell you just said
Salvage
too bad



unvote, vote dkun
dkun
so you give me a shit sentence in english
don't offer to elaborate
then say too bad because your english is so bad and vote me

hooooooly mother of god
Mara
guys shut the fuck up

you guys are taking a slot from main page when I'm trying to access off-topic
dkun
also, I don't know who's worse
pieguy/chris or you salvage/mashley

unvote
vote salvage
Wojjan
unvote vote dkun

just promise me mashley tomorrow he basically went "yeah what salvage said" on everything and we lost an amazing amount of time with both of them

at least mara had the decorum of being a lurker if all he's gonna do is spam shit no one cares about
Mashley

Wojjan wrote:

just promise me mashley tomorrow he basically went "yeah what salvage said" on everything and we lost an amazing amount of time with both of them
Despite that it was me who called dkun out in the first place? Riiiight.
And I must have missed the point where 20 minutes became a huge amount of time.
Chris_old
dkun, you thought that Sync's word = fact. You can't be worse if you wanted to.

unvote vote dkun

I called out dkun in the first place Mashley~

also I'd rather lynch someone who never posts before Mashley.

Believe it or not, these people are still playing..

Lilac
bmin11
animask
Mashley

Chris wrote:

I called out dkun in the first place Mashley~
I meant in the context of the previous discussion involving dkun.
Topic Starter
Two_old
Vote Count
dkun (3): Salvage, Wojjan, Chris
Wojjan (2): foulcoon, LadySuburu
LunaticMara (1): Mashley
JInxyjem (1): Lilac
Salvage (1): dkun

18~ hours left
Lilac
dkun's just being dkun...

He'll take any argument really and use it against anyone if he's angry enough... That's why I don't see anything out of the ordinary. Though, I'm at a lost as to who else can be mafia now...
Sleep Powder
Skimming... blah blah rolecop discussion, accusations/suspicions based on shit0ns of behaviors, Two made a (big?) mistake, oh... foulcoon and Chris seem to be interesting.

dkun seems to be pretty scummy right now, but I'm mostly reading it off of his reactions to everyone. He could be overwhelmed from all the accusations (lol so weak) so I can't really tell.

I'm ready for interrogation! Actually, anything really... I have no leads or anything. It looks like I'll have to re-read a lot so I can get some good suspects.
akrolsmir

Lilac wrote:

Though, I'm at a lost as to who else can be mafia now...
You know what they say. If you can't spot the sucker at the table...
fos: Lilac

oh and vote: animask after an ISO read and that post above- I particularly like how he's avoided voting at the end of days 1 and 2.
Chris_old
nice try at reinforcing a foulcoon lynch while trying to discredit me animask

step your game up

also post more than once every 4 days thx
foulcoon
So wait Wojjan, you gave my role and you're leading a lynch bandwagon on me? You're dumber than you look. Or extremely mafia.
Salvage
can't we agree on who we're gonna lynch?


cause voting all over the place its not gonna help, lets go with dkun frist mara after and then we can discuss later ones.
akrolsmir
I don't see a particular need to. dkun's being antagonistic but I'm not entirely convinced those he's fighting are townies in the first place.
Salvage
do you think he's ignorance at the game itself and the hillarous way of flaming everyone who says he's mafia can be justified by saying that those people he flame at can be mafia?



it's actually pretty dumb from my point of view
pieguyn
vote: dkun
akrolsmir
Not saying that he's right to do so, just that it doesn't seem scummy to me. Ignorant might be a good way to put it. Did this dkun play in any other games, for reference?
Salvage
the only thing that being new can do is giving excuses for making slips as mafia



i actually don't think this game is that hard to get for u to be that bad on the first game
Mara


havin' good time
dkun
check registration dates before you complain about my experience
i'm blunt through and through, but you know what, okay

all i'm going to say is that i'm town; figure it out yourself now
you're still probably going to lynch me, after all
Salvage
who would you lynch dkun
dkun
in all honesty?
my view points at mashley

but akrolsmir has a point

akrolsmir wrote:

Lilac wrote:

Though, I'm at a lost as to who else can be mafia now...
You know what they say. If you can't spot the sucker at the table...
fos: Lilac

oh and vote: animask after an ISO read and that post above- I particularly like how he's avoided voting at the end of days 1 and 2.
dkun
oh, and I forgot to mention chris ^
Salvage
unvote, vote animask
Salvage
it was time u started being a little logic dkun
Salvage
also if no one votes animask i'll lynch you dkun there is no way we're lynching wojjan



foul and ls please unvote to make things easier ^__^
dkun
well, as the day comes to an end

unvote
vote: animask
Lilac
For those who haven't, don't want or can't see Mara's video, he just basically claimed Encryptor and used it on Salvage...claiming he said nothing of much use an his massive disinterest of this game.

Also, humorously joked by simulating dkun and Salvage raging at each other while thinking that Wojjan doesn't know what the hell is going on apparently...

My vote is still on JInx and this dkun lynch is sounding like that Sync lynch.
Chris_old
I'm ok with this

unvote vote animask
Lilac
We went through the word 'logical', Salvage... *sigh*

Unvote, Vote: animask. Inevitable... Let me sleep. T_T
Salvage
yes im sorry lilac i made grammar mistakes way too often, i try to correct them tho :(
Chris_old
there is only a half hour left in today
Jinxy

Lilac wrote:

For those who haven't, don't want or can't see Mara's video, he just basically claimed Encryptor and used it on Salvage...claiming he said nothing of much use an his massive disinterest of this game.
Hm. Interesting. I'll watch the video tomorrow or something. The ending was too hilarious that I didn't actually pay attention to what Mara was saying.

On animask, him not voting for the past few days was a nice catch. His eh-activity is suspicious to me too.

I don't think it's actually required any more but vote: animask
Sleep Powder
So we're lynching lurkers now? Anyways, if I'm going to be lynched...

I chose dkun's role... that is all.
Sleep Powder
You guys haven't been lynching any mafia for the past 3 days (if you include today). I'm going to blame whoever is leading the town... which doesn't happen to be who started the vote on me.
dkun
any better suggestions, then?
Sleep Powder
Vote: Wojjan
Topic Starter
Two_old
ooook

Vote Count
animask (6): akrolsmir, Salvage, dkun, Chris, Lilac, JInxyjem
dkun (2): Wojjan, pieguy1372
Wojjan (2): foulcoon, LadySuburu
LunaticMara (1): Mashley

animask - Employee (Town) - Bodyguard has been lynched

due to day lasting 6 hours longer than normal, night will end 6 hours earlier
Topic Starter
Two_old
It's now Night 3. You have 26 hours until Day 4.
Topic Starter
Two_old
ending an hour early so I can afk

akrolsmir - Employee (Town) - Tracker has been killed.
Topic Starter
Two_old
It's now Day 4. You have 72 hours until Night 4. It takes 7 votes to lynch.
Wojjan
well fuck
Wojjan
see this is what happens when I say vote foulcoon and you end up not voting for foulcoon but for animask of all people
scum harder
bmin11
Okay, that just proves roles may be assigned totally different. I'll list out what I have sent for gift (I thought I had to write 3 choices for some reason).

1st: Role Cop
2nd: Bullet-proof
3rd: Vanilla



On my list, there was no Tracker or anything like that and this is the first time I've seen a role that wasn't on my given list of gifts.
Wojjan
Vote: Lilac
Wojjan
huh I also didn't have Tracker. Shows what we know.
Wojjan
bmin who did you give your role to?
I haven't had to give three options so the difference in treatment could mean one of our giftees is scum.
bmin11
Oh and ignore the "the first time I've seen a role that wasn't on my given list of gifts" bit. I forgot Mara claimed Encryptor.

I gave it to Akro and those were my choices.
Lilac
...I would have assumed akro.
bmin11
And I didn't have to send three options as well, but for some reason, I thought I had to (probably messed up with other mafia games and stuff).


EDIT: for extra o I had
Wojjan
alright. Can any one of you who gave their role to a dead guy chime in on having had to pick one or three roles?
I think we could just be on to something

mod: any comment? Did you screw up?
Wojjan
come to think of it bmin why did you claim this all of a sudden
LEERY EYES
bmin11
No no no it was only me. I've even said it out for you on my first post ;_;
Topic Starter
Two_old
I did not mess up
Wojjan
hold on I screwed up. You wrote "I thought", I read "though"
entirely different context, don't mind me.
bmin11

bmin11 wrote:

Dafydd
Because of this post. Everyone knows it was me who I gave the role for Akro. However, the thing I found it weird is that I didn't give out Tracker at all.
Wojjan
coincidentially, bmin, are you a rolecop?
bmin11
No
bmin11
I was rather surprised Sync himself was a role cop. If Ival wasn't a role cop, I would have just voted pieguy thinking there can't be possibly another town role cop. Well, it was disapproved right away >_>...
bmin11
I'm guessing you are going to explain why you asked that question...?
Wojjan
I figured if akro is not what you chose him to be you would be what you chose him to be maybe?
bmin11
Interesting thought, but I can't see how that would be the case.

We originally thought mafia would be killing off the people they have gave it to. However, that has stopped (atleast on my point of view). I can't see there would be only 3 mafias left, so akro's death is hard for me to understand at this point.
akrolsmir
why me...

gl town.
bmin11
By the way, I think I saw Wojjan's post originally saying "I also didn't have Tracker on my list" or something like that. I could be day dreaming but arghhhh this is painful why do I feel like I'm missing out something...
Lilac
It could be that Two just altered the role to balance something since there were too many rolecops?
bmin11
I was thinking of that as well, but speculating town roles could only benefit mafia, so I think we should just stop at a conclusion that gift choices aren't absolute. Any other information are welcomed though.
Chris_old
SPOILER
Redirector (may target themselves once per game)
Vigilante (1 bullet, accuracy reduced to 50% if 2 vigilantes, 33% if 3, 25% if 4, -5% per additonal)
Bodyguard
Bus Driver (can't self-target)
Vanilla
1-shot Bulletproof (applies to vigilante kills as well)
Odd Night Commuter
1-shot targetable Encryptor (1-shot as in)
Nurse (same ability as a doctor, only 33% chance to work)
Rolecop
1-shot Paranoid Gun Owner (1-shot as in only active for the night it is triggered)
there was no tracker in my list either
pieguyn
oh my god, I didn't have a chance to rolecop anyone >_< (And if Two didn't end it an hour early I would have been in just in time.)

Why the hell did we lynch animask? Also, I think Two said somewhere he might change a few roles for balance reasons, so I don't think that's a reason to vote anyone.

I'm not sure what to think anymore, but I think we should still lynch dkun. I'm also kind of suspicious of JInxyjem for some reason, but I don't know why. o.o
Mashley
Vote dkun
Yeah seriously guys wtf?
And if it's relevant there was no tracker on my list.
Lilac
I don't think ANYONE had Tracker on their list. That's what we're getting at.
foulcoon
makes me think that perhaps Two gave the mafia's gifts different than what they actually chose as to balance the game?

like bmin could be mafia and the role that he thinks he gave to his target is different?

FoS: bmin
foulcoon
just checked and there is no tracker on my list either
dkun
I think it's safe to say that I've already claimed town, Mashley. But if you want to persist with trying to get me lynched and get another townie dead, then please, go right ahead.

I would understand if pieguy voted for me, but you're just as scum Mashley.
Vote: Mashley


foulcoon wrote:

makes me think that perhaps Two gave the mafia's gifts different than what they actually chose as to balance the game?

like bmin could be mafia and the role that he thinks he gave to his target is different?

FoS: bmin
also, I think foulcoon has got the right idea
Mashley

dkun wrote:

I think it's safe to say that I've already claimed town
Claiming town.
CLAIMING TOWN.

Being town is already implied, why the hell would you claim otherwise?
Wojjan
Mod: please replace me, I have no idea what is going on with this game anymore and don't want to be a burden.
dkun

Mashley wrote:

dkun wrote:

I think it's safe to say that I've already claimed town
Claiming town.
CLAIMING TOWN.

Being town is already implied, why the hell would you claim otherwise?
i'm sorry, are you mad?

if you want details, then i'm an odd-night commuter
happy?
LadySuburu

Lilac wrote:

I don't think ANYONE had Tracker on their list. That's what we're getting at.
Now that I'm back...

Tracker was on the person who I replaced's list. He did not choose it to gift.

Chris's list looks exactally like mine, in the same order. Except, I had tracker instead of Paranoid.

I doubt that two altered a role that someone chose purposefully. That would mess with the balance and setup, and mess with the players.
Jinxy
...I see the problem here.

Daffydd was replaced by LS, not akro.
Lilac

Wojjan wrote:

Mod: please replace me, I have no idea what is going on with this game anymore and don't want to be a burden.
NOOOOOOOOOOO

DON'T GO WOJJAN. T__T
Mashley

dkun wrote:

Mashley wrote:

Claiming town.
CLAIMING TOWN.

Being town is already implied, why the hell would you claim otherwise?
i'm sorry, are you mad?

if you want details, then i'm an odd-night commuter
happy?
No I'm not mad. Why would someone claim town? It's already implied that you are town, to state otherwise would be unhelpful no matter what your alignment. All roles in this game can be had by either town or scum, therefore all roleclaims are meaningless unless you have something helpful to back them up with.
Mashley
also woj </3
Lilac
Also, I'm pretty sure with every list, the bottom most role is a unique one. My bottom one had Deputy (Basically a cop with 33% chance.)
dkun
i'm retaliating towards your vote
I don't get why you're up on my ass so much, why don't you check yourself before you wreck yourself
you seem more and more scum with every post
LadySuburu

Lilac wrote:

Also, I'm pretty sure with every list, the bottom most role is a unique one. My bottom one had Deputy (Basically a cop with 33% chance.)
Can't be that specific, since Tracker is on my list, and is my bottommost role. Someone else had tracker obviously, as akro was one.
pieguyn
noo Wojjan ;;

I have no idea what's going on either and I'm not dropping out. :?
Salvage
my bottom role is watcher and thats the role i gave, no more information.



now that i think of watcher its kind of useless anyways and its not helping anything





if you guys have no idea do you want to hear me yet or we're still not doing it
dkun

Salvage wrote:

my bottom role is watcher and thats the role i gave, no more information.



now that i think of watcher its kind of useless anyways and its not helping anything





if you guys have no idea do you want to hear me yet or we're still not doing it
idea pls sir

i'd rather hear you rather than mashley's scummy ranting
Lilac
Yes, by all means state your idea/opinion, Salvage...

...Meanwhile, JInxyjem actually posts something!
Mashley
dkun you're omgusing like hell, and 'claiming town' does not help you. Either you really don't understand the game or you're desperately clutching at straws. Or both. But I'll assume you do understand the game which makes all your responses so very scummy.

dkun wrote:

i'd rather hear you rather than mashley's scummy ranting
And now you're trying to belittle me, in some ridiculous attempt to protect yourself by making my arguments seem less valid. Also very very scummy.
dkun

Mashley wrote:

dkun you're omgusing like hell, and 'claiming town' does not help you. Either you really don't understand the game or you're desperately clutching at straws. Or both. But I'll assume you do understand the game which makes all your responses so very scummy.

dkun wrote:

i'd rather hear you rather than mashley's scummy ranting
And now you're trying to belittle me, in some ridiculous attempt to protect yourself by making my arguments seem less valid. Also very very scummy.
I really don't understand the game? that's a low blow asswipe. why would it seem like i'm desperately clutching at straws when you're the one instigating me?

protect myself? maybe you're just looking for someone town to scapegoat
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