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2012 Secret Santa Mafia | Game Over - Flawless Mafia Victory

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Two_old
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Two_old
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Vote Count
animask (6): akrolsmir, Salvage, dkun, Chris, Lilac, JInxyjem
dkun (2): Wojjan, pieguy1372
Wojjan (2): foulcoon, LadySuburu
LunaticMara (1): Mashley

animask - Employee (Town) - Bodyguard has been lynched

due to day lasting 6 hours longer than normal, night will end 6 hours earlier
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Two_old
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Topic Starter
Two_old
It's now Night 3. You have 26 hours until Day 4.
Two_old
620 posts
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Topic Starter
Two_old
ending an hour early so I can afk

akrolsmir - Employee (Town) - Tracker has been killed.
Two_old
620 posts
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Topic Starter
Two_old
It's now Day 4. You have 72 hours until Night 4. It takes 7 votes to lynch.
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
well fuck
Wojjan
806 posts
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Wojjan
see this is what happens when I say vote foulcoon and you end up not voting for foulcoon but for animask of all people
scum harder
bmin11
5,438 posts
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bmin11
Okay, that just proves roles may be assigned totally different. I'll list out what I have sent for gift (I thought I had to write 3 choices for some reason).

1st: Role Cop
2nd: Bullet-proof
3rd: Vanilla



On my list, there was no Tracker or anything like that and this is the first time I've seen a role that wasn't on my given list of gifts.
Wojjan
806 posts
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Wojjan
Vote: Lilac
Wojjan
806 posts
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Wojjan
huh I also didn't have Tracker. Shows what we know.
Wojjan
806 posts
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Wojjan
bmin who did you give your role to?
I haven't had to give three options so the difference in treatment could mean one of our giftees is scum.
bmin11
5,438 posts
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bmin11
Oh and ignore the "the first time I've seen a role that wasn't on my given list of gifts" bit. I forgot Mara claimed Encryptor.

I gave it to Akro and those were my choices.
Lilac
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Lilac
...I would have assumed akro.
bmin11
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bmin11
And I didn't have to send three options as well, but for some reason, I thought I had to (probably messed up with other mafia games and stuff).


EDIT: for extra o I had
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Wojjan
806 posts
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Wojjan
alright. Can any one of you who gave their role to a dead guy chime in on having had to pick one or three roles?
I think we could just be on to something

mod: any comment? Did you screw up?
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
come to think of it bmin why did you claim this all of a sudden
LEERY EYES
bmin11
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bmin11
No no no it was only me. I've even said it out for you on my first post ;_;
Two_old
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Two_old
I did not mess up
Wojjan
806 posts
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Wojjan
hold on I screwed up. You wrote "I thought", I read "though"
entirely different context, don't mind me.
bmin11
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bmin11

bmin11 wrote:

Dafydd
Because of this post. Everyone knows it was me who I gave the role for Akro. However, the thing I found it weird is that I didn't give out Tracker at all.
Wojjan
806 posts
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Wojjan
coincidentially, bmin, are you a rolecop?
bmin11
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bmin11
No
bmin11
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bmin11
I was rather surprised Sync himself was a role cop. If Ival wasn't a role cop, I would have just voted pieguy thinking there can't be possibly another town role cop. Well, it was disapproved right away >_>...
bmin11
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bmin11
I'm guessing you are going to explain why you asked that question...?
Wojjan
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Wojjan
I figured if akro is not what you chose him to be you would be what you chose him to be maybe?
bmin11
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bmin11
Interesting thought, but I can't see how that would be the case.

We originally thought mafia would be killing off the people they have gave it to. However, that has stopped (atleast on my point of view). I can't see there would be only 3 mafias left, so akro's death is hard for me to understand at this point.
akrolsmir
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akrolsmir
why me...

gl town.
bmin11
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bmin11
By the way, I think I saw Wojjan's post originally saying "I also didn't have Tracker on my list" or something like that. I could be day dreaming but arghhhh this is painful why do I feel like I'm missing out something...
Lilac
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Lilac
It could be that Two just altered the role to balance something since there were too many rolecops?
bmin11
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bmin11
I was thinking of that as well, but speculating town roles could only benefit mafia, so I think we should just stop at a conclusion that gift choices aren't absolute. Any other information are welcomed though.
Chris_old
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Chris_old
SPOILER
Redirector (may target themselves once per game)
Vigilante (1 bullet, accuracy reduced to 50% if 2 vigilantes, 33% if 3, 25% if 4, -5% per additonal)
Bodyguard
Bus Driver (can't self-target)
Vanilla
1-shot Bulletproof (applies to vigilante kills as well)
Odd Night Commuter
1-shot targetable Encryptor (1-shot as in)
Nurse (same ability as a doctor, only 33% chance to work)
Rolecop
1-shot Paranoid Gun Owner (1-shot as in only active for the night it is triggered)
there was no tracker in my list either
pieguyn
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Joined May 2009
pieguyn
oh my god, I didn't have a chance to rolecop anyone >_< (And if Two didn't end it an hour early I would have been in just in time.)

Why the hell did we lynch animask? Also, I think Two said somewhere he might change a few roles for balance reasons, so I don't think that's a reason to vote anyone.

I'm not sure what to think anymore, but I think we should still lynch dkun. I'm also kind of suspicious of JInxyjem for some reason, but I don't know why. o.o
Mashley
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Mashley
Vote dkun
Yeah seriously guys wtf?
And if it's relevant there was no tracker on my list.
Lilac
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Lilac
I don't think ANYONE had Tracker on their list. That's what we're getting at.
foulcoon
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foulcoon
makes me think that perhaps Two gave the mafia's gifts different than what they actually chose as to balance the game?

like bmin could be mafia and the role that he thinks he gave to his target is different?

FoS: bmin
foulcoon
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foulcoon
just checked and there is no tracker on my list either
dkun
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dkun
I think it's safe to say that I've already claimed town, Mashley. But if you want to persist with trying to get me lynched and get another townie dead, then please, go right ahead.

I would understand if pieguy voted for me, but you're just as scum Mashley.
Vote: Mashley


foulcoon wrote:

makes me think that perhaps Two gave the mafia's gifts different than what they actually chose as to balance the game?

like bmin could be mafia and the role that he thinks he gave to his target is different?

FoS: bmin
also, I think foulcoon has got the right idea
Mashley
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Mashley

dkun wrote:

I think it's safe to say that I've already claimed town
Claiming town.
CLAIMING TOWN.

Being town is already implied, why the hell would you claim otherwise?
Wojjan
806 posts
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Wojjan
Mod: please replace me, I have no idea what is going on with this game anymore and don't want to be a burden.
dkun
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dkun

Mashley wrote:

dkun wrote:

I think it's safe to say that I've already claimed town
Claiming town.
CLAIMING TOWN.

Being town is already implied, why the hell would you claim otherwise?
i'm sorry, are you mad?

if you want details, then i'm an odd-night commuter
happy?
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

Lilac wrote:

I don't think ANYONE had Tracker on their list. That's what we're getting at.
Now that I'm back...

Tracker was on the person who I replaced's list. He did not choose it to gift.

Chris's list looks exactally like mine, in the same order. Except, I had tracker instead of Paranoid.

I doubt that two altered a role that someone chose purposefully. That would mess with the balance and setup, and mess with the players.
Jinxy
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Jinxy
...I see the problem here.

Daffydd was replaced by LS, not akro.
Lilac
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Lilac

Wojjan wrote:

Mod: please replace me, I have no idea what is going on with this game anymore and don't want to be a burden.
NOOOOOOOOOOO

DON'T GO WOJJAN. T__T
Mashley
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Mashley

dkun wrote:

Mashley wrote:

Claiming town.
CLAIMING TOWN.

Being town is already implied, why the hell would you claim otherwise?
i'm sorry, are you mad?

if you want details, then i'm an odd-night commuter
happy?
No I'm not mad. Why would someone claim town? It's already implied that you are town, to state otherwise would be unhelpful no matter what your alignment. All roles in this game can be had by either town or scum, therefore all roleclaims are meaningless unless you have something helpful to back them up with.
Mashley
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Mashley
also woj </3
Lilac
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Lilac
Also, I'm pretty sure with every list, the bottom most role is a unique one. My bottom one had Deputy (Basically a cop with 33% chance.)
dkun
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dkun
i'm retaliating towards your vote
I don't get why you're up on my ass so much, why don't you check yourself before you wreck yourself
you seem more and more scum with every post
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

Lilac wrote:

Also, I'm pretty sure with every list, the bottom most role is a unique one. My bottom one had Deputy (Basically a cop with 33% chance.)
Can't be that specific, since Tracker is on my list, and is my bottommost role. Someone else had tracker obviously, as akro was one.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
noo Wojjan ;;

I have no idea what's going on either and I'm not dropping out. :?
Salvage
590 posts
Joined January 2010
Salvage
my bottom role is watcher and thats the role i gave, no more information.



now that i think of watcher its kind of useless anyways and its not helping anything





if you guys have no idea do you want to hear me yet or we're still not doing it
dkun
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dkun

Salvage wrote:

my bottom role is watcher and thats the role i gave, no more information.



now that i think of watcher its kind of useless anyways and its not helping anything





if you guys have no idea do you want to hear me yet or we're still not doing it
idea pls sir

i'd rather hear you rather than mashley's scummy ranting
Lilac
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Lilac
Yes, by all means state your idea/opinion, Salvage...

...Meanwhile, JInxyjem actually posts something!
Mashley
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Mashley
dkun you're omgusing like hell, and 'claiming town' does not help you. Either you really don't understand the game or you're desperately clutching at straws. Or both. But I'll assume you do understand the game which makes all your responses so very scummy.

dkun wrote:

i'd rather hear you rather than mashley's scummy ranting
And now you're trying to belittle me, in some ridiculous attempt to protect yourself by making my arguments seem less valid. Also very very scummy.
dkun
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dkun

Mashley wrote:

dkun you're omgusing like hell, and 'claiming town' does not help you. Either you really don't understand the game or you're desperately clutching at straws. Or both. But I'll assume you do understand the game which makes all your responses so very scummy.

dkun wrote:

i'd rather hear you rather than mashley's scummy ranting
And now you're trying to belittle me, in some ridiculous attempt to protect yourself by making my arguments seem less valid. Also very very scummy.
I really don't understand the game? that's a low blow asswipe. why would it seem like i'm desperately clutching at straws when you're the one instigating me?

protect myself? maybe you're just looking for someone town to scapegoat
Mashley
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Mashley

dkun wrote:

I really don't understand the game? that's a low blow asswipe. why would it seem like i'm desperately clutching at straws when you're the one instigating me?

protect myself? maybe you're just looking for someone town to scapegoat
If you understand the game why would you claim town?
Oh and once again stop taking things personally. It's a game, get over it.
dkun
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dkun

Mashley wrote:

dkun wrote:

I really don't understand the game? that's a low blow asswipe. why would it seem like i'm desperately clutching at straws when you're the one instigating me?

protect myself? maybe you're just looking for someone town to scapegoat
If you understand the game why would you claim town?
Oh and once again stop taking things personally. It's a game, get over it.
as I said again, because i'm defending myself from your useless instigations
I like to create emphasis. also perhaps you don't understand how vulgar and blunt I am as an individual.

it's the internet, get over it.
Lilac
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Lilac

Mashley wrote:

It's a game, get over it.
I'm pretty sure he understands that... He just likes to not treat it like a game sometimes though!

Now, JInx will post!
Salvage
590 posts
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Salvage
you'll allways rather hear me cause im the best player in the entire world




people possible mafia in my eyes: dkun, Mashley, Mara and foulcoon



i think mashley its just being bad but the other 3 players are painfully scummy.



from my point of view bmin and wojjan are confirmed town, lilac and chris are neutral and i dont know about the rest since they're lurking way too much




we could go lynch lurkers with a higher possibility of hitting mafia or lynch the best mafia targets
Salvage
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Salvage
or we could let the lurkers post or die, thats way better imo.


either way they're going against they're alignment if they don't post, and gathering information from every point of view will lower our chances of misslynch (that are already really low)
Lilac
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Lilac
Well, we did lynch animask. Lurker somewhat, no?
Salvage
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Salvage
yes



i dont see your point




also im going to sleep for an hour or two im tired as fuck, back a bit later
dkun
osu! Alumni
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dkun
yeah, but I think salvage's point is that we don't really have anything else to go on. (on a safe route, that is)
Jinxy
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Jinxy
dkun and Mash, I don't know anymore. One's def maf but I'm not sure who Mara's lost case, even if he comes back he'll just post more crap. I've already said I don't think foul's that scummy to me as of yet.
Chris_old
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Chris_old
SPOILER
5. bmin11
6. dkun
7. pieguy1372
9. foulcoon
10. Mashley
12. LunaticMara

I am willing to lynch any of them

I added pieguy because it's possible akrolsmir died after being scanned by a role cop and LS seems too town
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

Salvage wrote:

my bottom role is watcher and thats the role i gave, no more information.



now that i think of watcher its kind of useless anyways and its not helping anything
I'm not sure it's really useless, but at the same time I don't know if it's really worth revealing the watcher to learn his results.

At the same time, we started with 18 players, we have 12 now.

If I were host, I'dve given at least 5 mafia. That makes today or tomorrow LyLo. Information may be the most important thing right now.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

LadySuburu wrote:

That makes today or tomorrow LyLo.
Again, assuming I were host.

So, thoughts?

Do we hold back and wait another night, or should we reveal what information we know now, since we have hit 0 mafia in any lynches?
Chris_old
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Chris_old
it's hard to imagine there being 5 mafia and not hit one yet

I'm thinking 4 but two's last game did have only 3 mafia

that would explain why only town are dying
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

Chris wrote:

I'm thinking 4 but two's last game did have only 3 mafia
16/3, Yeah, assuming that sort of ratio 4 might actually be closer.

Of course, power roles are really random in this game, so who knows?

Might be better to hold of then, though.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

LadySuburu wrote:

Of course, power roles are really random in this game, so who knows?
Meaning distribution within alignments. Hard to balance without altering the number after roles are chosen.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
You know, when LunaticMara was mafia in VG mafia I don't recall him posting so much shit. For that reason, I think he's more likely to be town, though he isn't really helping.

Aside from that, I'm not really too sure about anything. :?
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
I think his video was his attempt at helping Town though...

...A hilarious way at doing it.
Mashley
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Mashley
Yeah Mara I think just got a crappy role. Though of course we shouldn't eliminate him, he could be mafia.
Chris_old
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Chris_old
Wojjan said foulcoons role was important and wanted him lynched before they quit

foulcoon said their role wasn't

nothing more to go on

vote: foulcoon
Jinxy
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Jinxy
And then dead game

Lilac - 1 (Wojjan)
dkun - 1 (Mash)
Mashley - 1 (dkun)
foulcoom -1 (Chris)
Jinxy
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Jinxy
Wojjan's vote on Lilac... I assume that's because of his vote on animask D3, but why Lilac over anyone else?
Mara
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Mara
thread music for you guys

Mashley
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Mashley
Thanks for your charming input Mara.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
alright since it's been a day and for some reason two is a jerk and doesn't let me quit or something for better or worse I am still around
vote: foulcoon
can we finally fucking get this lynch over with I told you to mynch him a day ago and then you let maf rerail you into animask
hence my previous vote on lilac btw
Wojjan
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Wojjan
IF YOU CAN'T SPOT THE SUCKER AT THE TABLE
Salvage
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Salvage
everyone agrees?


i do
Wojjan
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Wojjan
foulcoon and lilac are scum
tied between Chris or Mashley for the third but maybe they're both town if any cop wants to check them OH WAIT we don't have a cop because you lynched them all

gg
Wojjan
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Wojjan
also trackers and deputies etc.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
yes i mad right now
Salvage
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Salvage
they were role cops anyways, useless.
Salvage
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Salvage
vote foulcoon


4 votes more pls
dkun
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dkun
well, unless someone has a better explanation to anything...

unvote
vote: foulcoon
Mashley
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Mashley
Right now I think the mafia is dkun, foul, Lilac and JInxy. Jinxy because his iso gives off scum vibes to me, the way he just sort of states the obvious without really discussing much or giving his opinion, but that's only really a tentative fos.
foulcoon is definitely a good lynch but imo dkun is scummier so my vote isn't moving.
Salvage
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Salvage
we're gonna lynch foulcoon today mashley dont make it harder.
Mashley
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Mashley
I don't intend to
Salvage
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Salvage
such an innesesary way of trying to be rebel while doing whatever you do we're gonna end lynching the same person


it's kinda sad actually.
Mashley
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Mashley
What?
bmin11
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bmin11
vote: foulcoon
dkun
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dkun

Salvage wrote:

such an innesesary way of trying to be rebel while doing whatever you do we're gonna end lynching the same person


it's kinda sad actually.
not supporting town
obv mafia duh
Salvage
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Salvage

Mashley wrote:

What?


vote foulcoon and stop the crap, not agreeing with me/wojjan wont make u look smarter
Mashley
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Mashley
I'm voting on who I think is the most suitable lynch. That's kind of the idea.
Also I don't want to hammer foulcoon already, at least let him speak. I agree that he is likely mafia but it's a terrible idea to rush into a lynch when we are possibly at lylo.
Wojjan
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Wojjan
he already spoke yesterday when he was about to get lynched
stop stalling for time because all it's gonna accomplish is someone swooping in with more bullshit and then you lynch animask again
Mashley
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Mashley

Wojjan wrote:

he already spoke yesterday when he was about to get lynched
fair enough
vote foulcoon
Two_old
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Topic Starter
Two_old
Vote Count
foulcoon (4): Chris, Salvage, dkun, bmin11
Lilac (1): Wojjan
dkun (1): Mashley
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Salvage
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Salvage
what a jerk u are two


unvote before voting another one guys.
Salvage
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Salvage
and that goes directed to mashley and wojjan
Mashley
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Mashley
Don't be a dick 2 :(
Unvote Vote foulcoon
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