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2012 Secret Santa Mafia | Game Over - Flawless Mafia Victory
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wow my grammar is pretty fucking horrible in that post
too tired to care right now though
too tired to care right now though
zzzz good morning SyncSync wrote:
Sure that makes sense, aside from the fact that you did not give any explanation as to why you do in fact agree with the lynch. I mean, if I were you, I would have known to explain myself considering the position I was in. Jumping on the bandwagon like that made me look more suspicious, so why shouldn't it you? Oh wait... It's because Salvage/Wojjan won't call you out if you agree with them. You knew it too, so that is why you voted for Dusty. I guess you at least TRIED to get the spotlight from under you... anyways, nice try
Vote: Mashley
but I'm about to sleepFair point on Dusty actually.
I'd like to hear more from him though.
I'd like to hear more from him though.
me too
Ok so i'm a vigilante. (un)luckily for me that confirms jack shit since for all you guys know there are maf vigs, and also makes my role totally useless since NK'd vigs can't shoot anyone. yay
In all honesty that does by itself make me the best lynch target...
In all honesty that does by itself make me the best lynch target...
Can you day shot? Or are you just a night vig?
Ebwop: that spoiler shouldn't be there but I'm typing on my phone
This man understands my weak feelings. This is why I will not vote Rantai for this entire year.Rantai wrote:
Mara being Mara is not enough for me to follow. No one has that sort of swing.
<3
I'm assuming Dusty is telling the truth about being a Vigilante, just for the simple fact that a progressively more inaccurate Vigilante based on how many were in the game was in my list of roles to pick from.
The thing is, it didn't say anything about it being a night only role. That's what struck me as odd.
I'm sure there is more than one Vigilante because he said it would be less accurate, and I assume Two wouldn't put that there if he was the only one.
It's possible though less likely that Dusty + the person who gave him the role are both Mafia, allowing him to fakeclaim and the other person to back it up if need be.
The thing is, it didn't say anything about it being a night only role. That's what struck me as odd.
I'm sure there is more than one Vigilante because he said it would be less accurate, and I assume Two wouldn't put that there if he was the only one.
It's possible though less likely that Dusty + the person who gave him the role are both Mafia, allowing him to fakeclaim and the other person to back it up if need be.
There's only 22 hours left in the day, so everyone needs to weigh in and vote before it's over.
I'd want to lynch..
animask
dkun
Ivalset
foulcoon
pieguy
They all only have one post.
animask
dkun
Ivalset
foulcoon
pieguy
They all only have one post.
I think I'll believe Dusty for now.
Leaving me with Sync again.
Leaving me with Sync again.
Topic Starter
Vote Count
Mashley (3): animask, Dusty, Sync
Dusty (2): Wojjan, Mashley
LunaticMara (1): Lilac
Post Count
Salvage: 30
bmin11: 19
Sync: 18
Wojjan: 18
Chris: 13
Rantai: 13
NoHItter: 8
LunaticMara: 8
Dusty: 6
Mashley: 6
JInxyjem: 5
Dafydd: 4
Lilac: 3
animask: 2
dkun: 1
foulcoon:1
pieguy1372: 1
Ivalset: 1
Time left until Night 1: 21 hours
Mashley (3): animask, Dusty, Sync
Dusty (2): Wojjan, Mashley
LunaticMara (1): Lilac
Post Count
Salvage: 30
bmin11: 19
Sync: 18
Wojjan: 18
Chris: 13
Rantai: 13
NoHItter: 8
LunaticMara: 8
Dusty: 6
Mashley: 6
JInxyjem: 5
Dafydd: 4
Lilac: 3
animask: 2
dkun: 1
foulcoon:1
pieguy1372: 1
Ivalset: 1
Time left until Night 1: 21 hours
I don't see a problem with that I guess.
Chances are one of them is mafia-lurking.
Chances are one of them is mafia-lurking.
no I still want Dusty lynched
if he's not 100% accurate that means there's another vig in play here
so we're not losing a lot by lynching him, and keeping a potential maf around who has a second kill is just, uh
uh
if he's not 100% accurate that means there's another vig in play here
so we're not losing a lot by lynching him, and keeping a potential maf around who has a second kill is just, uh
uh
What is the reason for the Dusty lynch exactly?
.. because he voted for Mashley and defended bmin? Please tell me I am missing something.
.. because he voted for Mashley and defended bmin? Please tell me I am missing something.
because he'd bandwagon on anything including the worst lynch ever: MAshley. and defends bmin for the shittiest reason ever.
Now I don't know what to believe.
Might as well wait for more answers though. :/
Might as well wait for more answers though. :/
srsly just do an iso and say you're not reading "let's lynch whatever as long as it's not my scum team"
also two or three votes -> claim on D1 always sounds dumb. Especially with the systemwe put in place.
also two or three votes -> claim on D1 always sounds dumb. Especially with the systemwe put in place.
I'd much rather have Dusty shoot an inactive, and possibly lynch him tomorrow if the kill doesn't go through or if there is no information.
how about we ask the second vig to shoot an inactive
if an inactive dies the vig did well and that doesn't mean anything, worst case.
if they didn't die the vig was roleblocked or a maf extrakill who didn't want to off his teammate.
Case A: whoever was given roleblocker is scum. Two townies dead, Dusty and the NK. Case B: maf are idiots and we have two outed scum. Two townies dead, Dusty and NK.
If the inactive does die then you got what you wanted and I got what I wanted.
if an inactive dies the vig did well and that doesn't mean anything, worst case.
if they didn't die the vig was roleblocked or a maf extrakill who didn't want to off his teammate.
Case A: whoever was given roleblocker is scum. Two townies dead, Dusty and the NK. Case B: maf are idiots and we have two outed scum. Two townies dead, Dusty and NK.
If the inactive does die then you got what you wanted and I got what I wanted.
@MOD - Assuming there are multiple vigilantes, if a vigilante dies without having used a bullet, will the other vigilante(s) have an improved accuracy chance?
The only flaw I see in your plan is that the 2nd vig doesn't have a 100% chance either. That could be another reason as to why the inactive didn't die, unless:Wojjan wrote:
how about we ask the second vig to shoot an inactive
if an inactive dies the vig did well and that doesn't mean anything, worst case.
if they didn't die the vig was roleblocked or a maf extrakill who didn't want to off his teammate.
Case A: whoever was given roleblocker is scum. Two townies dead, Dusty and the NK. Case B: maf are idiots and we have two outed scum. Two townies dead, Dusty and NK.
If the inactive does die then you got what you wanted and I got what I wanted.
Two's reply to this is "Yes", in which case I think the plan would work well.Chris wrote:
@MOD - Assuming there are multiple vigilantes, if a vigilante dies without having used a bullet, will the other vigilante(s) have an improved accuracy chance?
...Well then. Then it's a good plan to me. If Dusty is scum then yay, if not, then the other vigs can hit better. If they don't hit someone tonight, then they are scum too along with the inactive etc etc.
Vote: Dusty
Vote: Dusty
Fair enough then Wojjan.Two wrote:
sure
Vote: Dusty
To whoever the other Vigilante is, please shoot one of the inactives.
Alright that plan sounds reasonable enough.
Vote: Dusty
Vote: Dusty
ok, i didn't fully get it to be honest but well im a bit retarded
vote: Dusty
vote: Dusty
Anyway guys, we can still assume that there might be 3 or 4 more vigilantes, I won't expect from them much at this time though.
vote Dusty
To add: so how about Sync? I think we overlooked this just because of Dusty's roleclaim. In fact, they both pressed Mashley hard.
vote Dusty
To add: so how about Sync? I think we overlooked this just because of Dusty's roleclaim. In fact, they both pressed Mashley hard.
Man vig is such a convenient scum claim. No kill? WHOOPS MUST HAVE MISSED.
Rantai wrote:
I think I'll believe Dusty for now.
Leaving me with Sync again.
you're always against me (((What exactly did we overlook? The only reason I voted for him is because I didn't like the way he voted without giving a reason which seemed like it was a convenient way to jump on the bandwagon and get the spotlight off of him. That's done for now I guess... I suppose we always have day 2 to see what happens...Dafydd wrote:
To add: so how about Sync? I think we overlooked this just because of Dusty's roleclaim. In fact, they both pressed Mashley hard.
Anyways, Dusty claiming as a vig is, as stated previously, convenient for him.
Unvote
Vote: Dusty
also wow I just read this again and I lol'dDusty wrote:
I read bmin's posts as just showing Korean cultural differences (saying "sorry" all the time and stuff), not scumminessSalvage wrote:
that paranoid reaction to a simple vote is what im talking about
vote: Dusty
Sorry, I've been really busy recently >.<
vote: Dusty
vote: Dusty
Dusty, oh everyone is voting for you already...
D1 bandwagon might not be a success, but if he really is a vig (possibly aligned with town) would
that mean other vigs would get better accuracy if killed? I saw that as one of the options, so I know its there.
@DaffyDDuck oh, my post was directed more towards you, but I'm guessing you read it wrong. He said "if" there
were more. There is a possibility but no way of finding out for sure unless people claim what role they picked which shouldn't
happen until something else does.
unvote
IGMEOY Mashley...
D1 bandwagon might not be a success, but if he really is a vig (possibly aligned with town) would
that mean other vigs would get better accuracy if killed? I saw that as one of the options, so I know its there.
@DaffyDDuck oh, my post was directed more towards you, but I'm guessing you read it wrong. He said "if" there
were more. There is a possibility but no way of finding out for sure unless people claim what role they picked which shouldn't
happen until something else does.
unvote
IGMEOY Mashley...
no, as two said in the first post mafia were chosen at random thus vig doesn't even nessesary mean he is town.
second vig please shoot dafyddDafydd wrote:
Now I don't know what to believe.
Might as well wait for more answers though. :/
but don't take that as an order surprise us, wifom wifom
just consider dafydd as an option becuase he admits to not feeling like contributing anything.
just consider dafydd as an option becuase he admits to not feeling like contributing anything.
Topic Starter
Vote Count
Dusty (10): Wojjan, Mashley, JInxyjem, Chris, Rantai, Salvage, Dafydd, Sync, bmin11, pieguy1372
Mashley (1): Dusty
LunaticMara (1): Lilac
Men and women frantically run towards the door, tripping over each other along the way.
Dusty was able to keep calm, and stayed behind in an attempt to save the man laying on the ground. Pulling off their shirt, they slowly pull the knife from the mans throat and tightly wrap their shirt around the wound attempting to stop the bleeding. The blood gushes all over their hands as they tie the shirt, and pull their cellphone out of their pocket. Dusty attempts to call 911, but due to the earthquake the cellphone has no signal.
The bosses eyes roll into the back of his head, and he stops gurgling on his blood. Shaking their head, Dusty sighs and stands back up to their feet. Walking out of the room, he rushes to catch back up with the rest of the people at the company party. He finally winds up in the lobby if the company, and notices the anti-theft gates are blocking all of the entrances and are locked with a deadbolt.
The rest of the people in the building see Dusty walk up with blood all over his hands and chest.
"He killed the boss!" yelled a somewhat overweight guy standing behind a woman. The woman screams and tries to hide behind overweight man, but he grabs her shoulders and keeps her in front of him attempting to shield himself while slightly ducking.
"I didn't! I was just trying to save him after you all left! Dusty said somewhat too calm. "Yeah right! Get him before he can hurt anyone else!" a random man yelled, and suddenly the crowd rushed towards him. Dusty tried to turn and run but was grabbed by his collar. After being pulled by the group, he was tossed down into the middle of the circle. He proceeded to get stomped and by sharp pens and other objects found around an office.
After what seemed like an eternity of brutal beatings, they finally backed off.
Knocked unconscious and finally bleeding out on the floor, Dusty had died.
The group began to pat him down and go through his pockets, looking for some sort of evidence.
Finding nothing, they decided to go back upstairs where the company boss was. Walking in, they see the knife laying down next to the body with a white-now-red shirt wrapped tightly around his neck. The room got quiet.
Looking at each other, everyone felt uneasy. No one was sure who out of the people around them were responsible for the murder.
One thing was for sure, it wasn't the man they killed.
Dusty - Employee (Town) - Vigilante has been lynched.
Dusty (10): Wojjan, Mashley, JInxyjem, Chris, Rantai, Salvage, Dafydd, Sync, bmin11, pieguy1372
Mashley (1): Dusty
LunaticMara (1): Lilac
Men and women frantically run towards the door, tripping over each other along the way.
Dusty was able to keep calm, and stayed behind in an attempt to save the man laying on the ground. Pulling off their shirt, they slowly pull the knife from the mans throat and tightly wrap their shirt around the wound attempting to stop the bleeding. The blood gushes all over their hands as they tie the shirt, and pull their cellphone out of their pocket. Dusty attempts to call 911, but due to the earthquake the cellphone has no signal.
The bosses eyes roll into the back of his head, and he stops gurgling on his blood. Shaking their head, Dusty sighs and stands back up to their feet. Walking out of the room, he rushes to catch back up with the rest of the people at the company party. He finally winds up in the lobby if the company, and notices the anti-theft gates are blocking all of the entrances and are locked with a deadbolt.
The rest of the people in the building see Dusty walk up with blood all over his hands and chest.
"He killed the boss!" yelled a somewhat overweight guy standing behind a woman. The woman screams and tries to hide behind overweight man, but he grabs her shoulders and keeps her in front of him attempting to shield himself while slightly ducking.
"I didn't! I was just trying to save him after you all left! Dusty said somewhat too calm. "Yeah right! Get him before he can hurt anyone else!" a random man yelled, and suddenly the crowd rushed towards him. Dusty tried to turn and run but was grabbed by his collar. After being pulled by the group, he was tossed down into the middle of the circle. He proceeded to get stomped and by sharp pens and other objects found around an office.
After what seemed like an eternity of brutal beatings, they finally backed off.
Knocked unconscious and finally bleeding out on the floor, Dusty had died.
The group began to pat him down and go through his pockets, looking for some sort of evidence.
Finding nothing, they decided to go back upstairs where the company boss was. Walking in, they see the knife laying down next to the body with a white-now-red shirt wrapped tightly around his neck. The room got quiet.
Looking at each other, everyone felt uneasy. No one was sure who out of the people around them were responsible for the murder.
One thing was for sure, it wasn't the man they killed.
Dusty - Employee (Town) - Vigilante has been lynched.
Topic Starter
It's now Night 1. You have 32 hours to send in night actions.
Topic Starter
Deciding it was best if everyone split up into groups, they went their seperate ways.
Starting to get tired, the groups barricaded themselves into rooms to rest. Rantai, not knowing anyone in the company very well took a shot in the dark of who they chose to stay with. As they both entered the room and pushed the desk up against the door, the unknown person said to Rantai, "I appreciate you letting me hide out in here with you, those other people all seem insane."
Rantai nodded and sighed a bit, as they turned around to look out the office window, they felt the heat of the persons breath up against their neck. Rantai jumped and pushed the man away, who backed up a few feet. "What's wrong?" they said, as they smiled revealing their yellow crooked teeth. Rantai backed up as far towards the window as he could, noticing the mans hands were behind his back.
"Back up asshole, I'm warning you!" Rantai tried to shout, but who's voice was swallowed my fear.
The man rushed at Rantai revealing a serrated knife at the last second, plunging it deep into his stomach. Bent over in pain, the killer pulled the knife out and sliced up, slitting Rantai's throat.
He carved into his back with the knife, and seemingly formed some sort of symbol..
By the time he was done, it read..
2-0-1-2
Rantai - Employee (Town) - Bodyguard has been killed.
Starting to get tired, the groups barricaded themselves into rooms to rest. Rantai, not knowing anyone in the company very well took a shot in the dark of who they chose to stay with. As they both entered the room and pushed the desk up against the door, the unknown person said to Rantai, "I appreciate you letting me hide out in here with you, those other people all seem insane."
Rantai nodded and sighed a bit, as they turned around to look out the office window, they felt the heat of the persons breath up against their neck. Rantai jumped and pushed the man away, who backed up a few feet. "What's wrong?" they said, as they smiled revealing their yellow crooked teeth. Rantai backed up as far towards the window as he could, noticing the mans hands were behind his back.
"Back up asshole, I'm warning you!" Rantai tried to shout, but who's voice was swallowed my fear.
The man rushed at Rantai revealing a serrated knife at the last second, plunging it deep into his stomach. Bent over in pain, the killer pulled the knife out and sliced up, slitting Rantai's throat.
He carved into his back with the knife, and seemingly formed some sort of symbol..
By the time he was done, it read..
2-0-1-2
Rantai - Employee (Town) - Bodyguard has been killed.
Topic Starter
It's now Day 2. You have 72 hours from this post until Night 2. With 16 people alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch.
Why me ;~;
Poor Rantai :< Confused why you were lynched myself. Maybe since you suspected me, mafia was setting up a way to point out me as mafia.
Pretty shallow, but who knows
Pretty shallow, but who knows
man you guys rush a lynch in like 10 pages and then you guys are trying to say that "lurkers" are mafia? thats some bullshit
also you just sounded pretty scummy there, Sync.
also you just sounded pretty scummy there, Sync.
Yeah, that was pretty bad Sync.
And of course it's bullshit. It happened though... Either that or D1 would have gone for way longer...
And of course it's bullshit. It happened though... Either that or D1 would have gone for way longer...
Oh right.
Vote: Wojjan.
Vote: Wojjan.
Oh well, wasn't trying to be scum. I was only posting my speculation.
Also, still have my eye on Mashley
oh, and how was that being scummy if I didn't say anyone in specific?
Rantai wasn't lynched... On top that, what makes you think that kill was suppose to point YOU out as Mafia? It just sounds...odd.Sync wrote:
Poor Rantai :< Confused why you were lynched myself. Maybe since you suspected me, mafia was setting up a way to point out me as mafia.
Pretty shallow, but who knows
well there's no lurker dead
that should account for something.
that should account for something.
Either vig didn't shoot or vig failed?
Or roleblocked...or maybe mafia and vig both shot Rantai!
Or roleblocked...or maybe mafia and vig both shot Rantai!
rantai wasn't a lurker.
in any case if any of you buggers gave the vig role to someone they should probably own up to it. If vig failed, there's still another vig in play. That means two vigs either failed simultaneously or both thought that the other (of whom they were informed exists through their probability) would shoot instead.
So why did no inactive die? I actually think all vigs in play might be all town right now. Scum woulld waste no time using a second kill on an inactive if it wouldn't only reduce our numbers but also earn them confirmed cred.
Thing is, Rantai is a bodyguard. It could be he protected the inactive that got shot. That would have been a dumb move. I hope he didn't do that. If the vig targeted the guy rantai protected and the mafia targeted rantai (because he's a popular princess now) that would be an explanation too.
If vig shot rantai along with maf then please commit Kiddo.
in any case if any of you buggers gave the vig role to someone they should probably own up to it. If vig failed, there's still another vig in play. That means two vigs either failed simultaneously or both thought that the other (of whom they were informed exists through their probability) would shoot instead.
So why did no inactive die? I actually think all vigs in play might be all town right now. Scum woulld waste no time using a second kill on an inactive if it wouldn't only reduce our numbers but also earn them confirmed cred.
Thing is, Rantai is a bodyguard. It could be he protected the inactive that got shot. That would have been a dumb move. I hope he didn't do that. If the vig targeted the guy rantai protected and the mafia targeted rantai (because he's a popular princess now) that would be an explanation too.
If vig shot rantai along with maf then please commit Kiddo.
Considering how he played previous protective roles. (Seraph Knight...Oh man.) I doubt that he would protect anyone N1 off the bat since he would probably try and gather more info for a possible Town protect.
I'm starting to think that maybe vigs didn't even shoot... If there were two vigs firing, one should hit, otherwise it's complete bullcrap.
I'm starting to think that maybe vigs didn't even shoot... If there were two vigs firing, one should hit, otherwise it's complete bullcrap.
are you dumb or stupidWojjan wrote:
well there's no lurker dead
that should account for something.
the lynch bandwagon came up fast for day 1, you sound really scummy trying to pressure people to vig kill "lurkers". of course no "lurker" was night killed, theres already a movement to lynch a list of them.
HoS: Wojjan
thing is we specifically said "vig kill one a these bitches" and we don't have a bitch dead. No matter if you make those bitches lurkers or people with weeaboo avatars or idiots who HoS instead of vote it stilll doesn't explain only one death unless you're the vig and you didn't shoot.
Fixed it for you. Sure, a vig kill might have given us more information but who knows, maybe the vig has a better idea? Who knows what it might be though?Wojjan wrote:
thing is I, Wojjan only, specifically said "vig kill one a these bitches"
I meant killed and Rantai was calling me suspicious D1.Lilac wrote:
Rantai wasn't lynched... On top that, what makes you think that kill was suppose to point YOU out as Mafia? It just sounds...odd.Sync wrote:
Poor Rantai :< Confused why you were lynched myself. Maybe since you suspected me, mafia was setting up a way to point out me as mafia.
Pretty shallow, but who knows
I'm asking for a replacement.
I don't think I can play a game that's not nearly ending anymore.
Had tests this week, and will have tests next week.
Sorry, I mistimed the start of my exams with this game >.>
I don't think I can play a game that's not nearly ending anymore.
Had tests this week, and will have tests next week.
Sorry, I mistimed the start of my exams with this game >.>
don't you startLilac wrote:
Fixed it for you. Sure, a vig kill might have given us more information but who knows, maybe the vig has a better idea? Who knows what it might be though?Wojjan wrote:
thing is I, Wojjan only, specifically said "vig kill one a these bitches"
Chris said that
if you want to mislynch me so badly Lilac step up your game srsly.
I wouldn't call a lynch that happened less than 20 hours before the end of the day a rushed lynch.
I'd call someone who's posted once in over 2 days a lurker.
I'm not sure if Sync is just paranoid or bad, but I don't see why he would send a kill in that would (in his opinion) make him look bad.
Since Rantai is dead anyways, I think the person who picked their role should say who they are. Bodyguard isn't that good of a role, but if they knew it was a definite kill then it's very possible that they decided to go for it.
It wouldn't surprise me if mafia killed everyone they chose roles for first.
More than just Wojjan wanted the vigilante to shoot tonight, not sure why you're playing it from that angle Lilac.
I'd call someone who's posted once in over 2 days a lurker.
I'm not sure if Sync is just paranoid or bad, but I don't see why he would send a kill in that would (in his opinion) make him look bad.
Since Rantai is dead anyways, I think the person who picked their role should say who they are. Bodyguard isn't that good of a role, but if they knew it was a definite kill then it's very possible that they decided to go for it.
It wouldn't surprise me if mafia killed everyone they chose roles for first.
More than just Wojjan wanted the vigilante to shoot tonight, not sure why you're playing it from that angle Lilac.
I used to have this "lurkers -> mafia"-logic, but it has always been wrong.
Or it's just Finnish Mafias.
Or it's just Finnish Mafias.
inb4 NoHItter kills me because I opened my mouth again
using vig so early in the game and pushing for it so muchWojjan wrote:
So why did no inactive die? I actually think all vigs in play might be all town right now. Scum woulld waste no time using a second kill on an inactive if it wouldn't only reduce our numbers but also earn them confirmed cred.
itt scum
but then again, i've only lurked and read so far, does that make me scum according to your logic?
maybe so he could say "mafia probably did that to make me look bad, hurr durr".Chris wrote:
I'm not sure if Sync is just paranoid or bad, but I don't see why he would send a kill in that would (in his opinion) make him look bad.
yes.dkun wrote:
but then again, i've only lurked and read so far, does that make me scum according to your logic?
Why are we assuming there is another vig? For all we know, only one vig might have been chosen.
Dusty said he didn't have full hit chance, so there has to be another vig in play according to someone's role list
read then post plz
read then post plz
Read his post again
Read then post plz, right back at you.
He doesn't say he has a chance of missing. It's quite clear from this post that he doesn't know if he has a chance of missing. The way it's worded suggests that he was simply told what was in the role list, that if there are other vigs then his accuracy goes down.Dusty wrote:
If the description on the role list my giftee had is the same as my vig role, I don't even have guaranteed 100% accuracy...
Read then post plz, right back at you.
Thoughts on Possible Vigilante(s)
Since vigs are 1-shot and have a chance of missing with that many players, they could have assumed other vigs were in play. If they thought that, they wouldn't use their shot because of the low odds. With Dusty dead, there should be 1-2 vigs left at most (50% or 33% chance). They could have missed if there were 2 vigs remaining (33%), but its more likely that the mafia missed a shot rather than a town member (since we don't want to factor out a possible mafia vig).
The mafia should have shared what roles they picked by now. If they actually went for Rantai based on him being a Bodyguard, they must not have picked any good roles. By Rantai's reaction, he didn't seem like he protected anyone. It's likely he got killed by the mafia.
Sync, thinking that the mafia would try to frame you with Rantai's kill seems unlikely. On your part, it just seems like you were trying to defend yourself in some way rather than help the town.
I'm expecting foulcoon or Sync to be mafia at this time. I just feel like foulcoon is mafia, but with no really reasoning (gut feeling).
Yeah, that's enough post content for now...
Since vigs are 1-shot and have a chance of missing with that many players, they could have assumed other vigs were in play. If they thought that, they wouldn't use their shot because of the low odds. With Dusty dead, there should be 1-2 vigs left at most (50% or 33% chance). They could have missed if there were 2 vigs remaining (33%), but its more likely that the mafia missed a shot rather than a town member (since we don't want to factor out a possible mafia vig).
The mafia should have shared what roles they picked by now. If they actually went for Rantai based on him being a Bodyguard, they must not have picked any good roles. By Rantai's reaction, he didn't seem like he protected anyone. It's likely he got killed by the mafia.
Sync, thinking that the mafia would try to frame you with Rantai's kill seems unlikely. On your part, it just seems like you were trying to defend yourself in some way rather than help the town.
I'm expecting foulcoon or Sync to be mafia at this time. I just feel like foulcoon is mafia, but with no really reasoning (gut feeling).
Yeah, that's enough post content for now...
By God.
Mashley said something that actually made sense and I can somewhat agree on.
Mashley said something that actually made sense and I can somewhat agree on.
Just because my day 1 posts were such almighty genius that they transcended the level of your pitiful mind.Lilac wrote:
By God.
Mashley said something that actually made sense and I can somewhat agree on.
Don't push it.
He said if his vig role works like his giftee's, then he wouldn't even have 100% accuracy.Mashley wrote:
Read his post againHe doesn't say he has a chance of missing. It's quite clear from this post that he doesn't know if he has a chance of missing. The way it's worded suggests that he was simply told what was in the role list, that if there are other vigs then his accuracy goes down.Dusty wrote:
If the description on the role list my giftee had is the same as my vig role, I don't even have guaranteed 100% accuracy...
Read then post plz, right back at you.
Sounds to me like he chose vig for his giftee and thus came to that conclusion that he may not be 100%.
If whoever picked Rantai's role doesn't claim it, I'm going to assume you're Mafia.
You've got no reason not to unless I hit it spot on that Mafia are killing off the roles they picked. I'm assuming to avoid hitting 1-Shot bulletproofs.
I'm definitely going to vote for whoever it is if it's discovered without you admitting it.
You've got no reason not to unless I hit it spot on that Mafia are killing off the roles they picked. I'm assuming to avoid hitting 1-Shot bulletproofs.
I'm definitely going to vote for whoever it is if it's discovered without you admitting it.
If he chose vig for his giftee then he would have come to the conclusion that he isn't 100%, not that he might not be 100%.JInxyjem wrote:
He said if his vig role works like his giftee's, then he wouldn't even have 100% accuracy.
Sounds to me like he chose vig for his giftee and thus came to that conclusion that he may not be 100%.
No, his post showed that he thought he may not have shared the same type of vig as his giftee but if he did share the same type of vig, it meant that he did not have 100%.
So basically he was basing his accuracy on whether his vig role was the same type as the giftee's, and not if there were other vigs he did not know about. Thus I believe he did choose vig for his giftee.
If he was saying what you're trying to say, then his statement would have read:JInxyjem wrote:
No, his post showed that he thought he may not have shared the same type of vig as his giftee but if he did share the same type of vig, it meant that he did not have 100%.
Dusty wrote:
If the description on the role list my giftee had is the same as my vig role, I don't even haveguaranteed100% accuracy...
I think I lost you JInx. Maybe you are reading in too deeply.
Vig itself not knowing of it's own success rate is someone odd to be honest. He should be the person who knows everything of it's own role. So, I'm going to believe he only knew his success rate wasn't 100%, but not the exact rate so Dusty wouldn't know how many vigs there will be on the game.
Vig itself not knowing of it's own success rate is someone odd to be honest. He should be the person who knows everything of it's own role. So, I'm going to believe he only knew his success rate wasn't 100%, but not the exact rate so Dusty wouldn't know how many vigs there will be on the game.
I'm not really sure how removing the "guaranteed" changes anything but considering I'm losing myself a little, I guess I could be reading too deeply.
The only suspicious thing today for me is Sync's post about him being set up by the mafia. Seems odd for him to point it out himself, I'm not sure if he's just that paranoid or maf that's trying to play a weird game of wifom.
The only suspicious thing today for me is Sync's post about him being set up by the mafia. Seems odd for him to point it out himself, I'm not sure if he's just that paranoid or maf that's trying to play a weird game of wifom.
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I was just trying to determine the reason why Rantai was killed.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Dusty was the only vigilante. I also wouldn't be surprised if everyone missed or didn't want to risk it considering the fact that they've only got 1 bullet (1-shot vigilante was the only vigilante on my role list, so I doubt there'd be a vigilante with more shots). Or maybe whoever the vigilante was randomly got roleblocked, but I doubt that's the case since I don't think Two would even put a roleblocker on anyone's list since it could end up being town. Or maybe one of the lurkers is bulletproof or something... Anyway, I think there's too many other possibilities for that to be suspicious.
I think Chris and Rantai are town due to meta. Mashley at least had a reason for his plan, but the thing is people don't need to claim Santa in advance for it to work. Speaking of that plan, I'm kind of suspicious of Sync o.o I'm not sure why, it's mostly just a gut feeling.
Aside from that, I'm not even sure what to think >.<
I wouldn't be surprised if Dusty was the only vigilante. I also wouldn't be surprised if everyone missed or didn't want to risk it considering the fact that they've only got 1 bullet (1-shot vigilante was the only vigilante on my role list, so I doubt there'd be a vigilante with more shots). Or maybe whoever the vigilante was randomly got roleblocked, but I doubt that's the case since I don't think Two would even put a roleblocker on anyone's list since it could end up being town. Or maybe one of the lurkers is bulletproof or something... Anyway, I think there's too many other possibilities for that to be suspicious.
I think Chris and Rantai are town due to meta. Mashley at least had a reason for his plan, but the thing is people don't need to claim Santa in advance for it to work. Speaking of that plan, I'm kind of suspicious of Sync o.o I'm not sure why, it's mostly just a gut feeling.
Aside from that, I'm not even sure what to think >.<
Oh wait, Rantai died. Wow, maybe I should pay more attention rofl
Okay looking at it again I think Wojjan is suspicious
1. calls out Dusty with kind of bad reasoning
2. Proposes that plan at N1 involving the vigilante. It's highly unlikely all the more inactive people would be mafia, so the mafia wouldn't choose not to kill anyone. IMO it really doesn't make sense...
3. didn't read the thread carefully enough to realize what Dusty said about his accuracy, which is somewhat tied in with 2
I also think JInxyjem is a bit suspicious but that's another gut feeling
1. calls out Dusty with kind of bad reasoning
2. Proposes that plan at N1 involving the vigilante. It's highly unlikely all the more inactive people would be mafia, so the mafia wouldn't choose not to kill anyone. IMO it really doesn't make sense...
3. didn't read the thread carefully enough to realize what Dusty said about his accuracy, which is somewhat tied in with 2
I also think JInxyjem is a bit suspicious but that's another gut feeling
I read the thread carefully enough. It should be blatantly obvious that both dusty and dusty's receiving end of the santa both have vig. There for he knows he's not 100% accurate, so when he says that we know there's another vig in play. Why would we not use that?
Why are you also not saying why my reasoning is bad? You ust sort of toss it out there so in the case I get a bandwagon on me you can just say you're right and course along.
play better please, mafs.
Why are you also not saying why my reasoning is bad? You ust sort of toss it out there so in the case I get a bandwagon on me you can just say you're right and course along.
play better please, mafs.
Rantai's death means that if chris has it by the right end nobody in the mafia, which I'll assume are with four in this game, picked doctor from the role list.
If you did pick doc, and you didn't out who you picked it for yet in Mashley's idiot move, you should probably claim that there's a doc in play. in that case, ONE rolecop can out himself and get doc protection. Even if the doc is maf they can't kill the cop without sacrificing the best guy on their team, the one who's gonna protect them from all the vig shots. Since apparently we have plenty.
If you did pick doc, and you didn't out who you picked it for yet in Mashley's idiot move, you should probably claim that there's a doc in play. in that case, ONE rolecop can out himself and get doc protection. Even if the doc is maf they can't kill the cop without sacrificing the best guy on their team, the one who's gonna protect them from all the vig shots. Since apparently we have plenty.