salvage it's completely random how can you assume that

also I am against lynching survivor since they don't win till d2 anyways

Chris wrote:

salvage it's completely random how can you assume that

also I am against lynching survivor since they don't win till d2 anyways

chris do you just read your own posts or do you both with the game as well sometimes? Vivor can joint with both lyncher and fool and the odds of both fool and lynchee being dead at D2 are disastrously low.

if I counterclaim mafia will you lynch rantai?

Wojjan wrote:

Chris wrote:

salvage it's completely random how can you assume that

also I am against lynching survivor since they don't win till d2 anyways

chris do you just read your own posts or do you both with the game as well sometimes? Vivor can joint with both lyncher and fool and the odds of both fool and lynchee being dead at D2 are disastrously low.

I got that part but they also have no ability and don't prevent any wins either

and why u don't consider him being the jester if ur the mafia wojjan

Wojjan wrote:

by the way I just explained above that post why we can't let survivor live until D2. they can joint with the lyncher if their lynchee is alive, or with the fool if they're alive. Leaving the vivor around after N1 means he won, unless we lynch the lyncher now and the mafia shoot the fool tonight which is not an odd I will be taking.

Which is why the mafia should shoot you tonight if they are planning on winning. If you don't die I guess you are legit maf, and if you do die then you're dead.

- Uh. Lynching the survivor on day 2 absolutely guarantees their loss because they are not alive by the end of day 2, there will be no joint win. So yeah as I said, if you're absolutely certain I am the survivor, I'm not seeing why you're so hellbent on lynching me.

- Except I am the mafia. With me knowing you're the lyncher, I have a good chance of killing the jester tonight (50/50) or even the survivor which benefits all of us.

you CAN'T lynch the survivor on day two. If we lynch the lyncher today, then the maf will shoot not you and not salvage because he's the guard so fool, and then vivor and maf can force a lynch on the one remaining player, the guard. We HAVE to lynch survivor today, or maf and vivor joint.

they won't force a lynch on me but force a lynch on each other and in that case one of them wins anyways so we have to lynch survivor or mafia, we have confirmed mafia so that's why im saying fucking lynch mafia but we can go for the riskness of hit jester and try to lynch survivor

okay Vote: Rantai

weren't u so sure he wasn't mafia

Salvage wrote:

we have to lynch survivor or mafia

I think he's survivor, you think he's maf, but either way we want him dead.

Wojjan wrote:

you CAN'T lynch the survivor on day two. If we lynch the lyncher today, then the maf will shoot not you and not salvage because he's the guard so fool, and then vivor and maf can force a lynch on the one remaining player, the guard. We HAVE to lynch survivor today, or maf and vivor joint.

If you lynch the survivor today then the mafia will shoot either the lyncher or jester. This assumes the lyncher hasn't already won (which is why Wojjan is so eager for me to be killed)

Say the lyncher is hit; then you're left with a mafia, jester and guard. In this case the jester has to decide who is going to win with basically a 0% chance to win.

If jester is hit; then you've got mafia, lyncher and guard. If the lynchee is alive then there is a huge chance of the lyncher winning. If not then same as above.

If you lynch mafia today then no one will get shot. But you give the Guard a 66% chance of winning straight out (which is why Salvage is so eager to lynch the mafia). This assumes that they are not the lynchee (again, convenient to Wojjan)

Day 2 will play out as;

The survivor has a 66% chance of winning.
Lyncher has a 25% (less because by then the guard is confirmed lynchee) chance to win.
Jester has a 25% chance to win.
Guard has a 25% chance to win.

By that stage NO ONE in their right mind will lynch the guard. So you're down to Lyncher, Jester, Survivor. No one will know who the survivor is so it's a game of chance there with a 66% chance of a survivor win. Assuming you don't fail at that you go into -> Guard, Lyncher, Jester. Guard wins on lyncher death, lyncher wins on guard death and jester wins on jester death. It'll be a perpetual stalemate.

If we lynch the lyncher there is no chance of ANY instant wins;

Mafia goes random on jester or survivor. If survivor dies then jester/guard/mafia. Mafia and jester can joint win. Guard can solo win. Or mafia can solo win.

If jester shot; guard/mafia/survivor - Guard can joint with the survivor, mafia can joint with the survivor or the mafia can win.
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Actually I'll cut a deal. Assuming we lynch the lyncher (0% chance of anyone losing) I'll shoot Salvage tonight (if the game works like normal BP's, he will know if I don't). We can mod ask too if needed. That will leave us with mafia/guard/jester/survivor. This will produce a similar situation to lynching the mafia except the survivor will only have a 50% chance to win instead of 66% AND no instant win. This works out better for all parties involved, minus the lyncher.

Then from there you can decide who wins or joint wins.

vote: No Lynch




missed th thread sry.

Pretty sure no lynch helps no one but the survivor. Looking back at my spreadsheet, if I miss the survivor we've (ie anyone other than the survivor) got less chance to win than if we followed the lyncher lynch path. Actually you as the guard will have the worst chance to win out of all of us.

unless u hit the survivor but that's the only good outcome yeah


unvote

sry salvage I let you get your free ride off me for as long as it's gonna happen

roleclaim guard

salvage is probably the lyncher which is why I was on him from the beginning, still betting on rantai as the lynchee
bmin is survivor
rantai is mafia
wojjan is jester

I figured as long as rantai wasn't getting lynched there was no reason to claim, but if d2's coming as "no one's gonna lynch the guard" then there's no reason for me not to

you can shoot me tonight to prove it

ok shoot chris tonight to proove it i'm the guard ^__^



do not lynch chris btw he's the jester.

well not really he could be survivor trying to seem jester


either way we should lynch either bmin or wojjan today and rantai shoots chris

salvage is definitely the one to lynch

gogogo

vote: salvage

VOTE COUNT:
Wojjan (1) - bmin11
Rantai (1) - Wojjan
Salvage (1) - Chris
====================================
Not Voting (2) - Salvage, Rantai

AROUND 18 HOURS UNTIL THE DEADLINE.

I don't believe that Wojjan is the survivor, she is way too focused on my lynch.

But hmm Chris is either the survivor trying to ride the guard's immunity or finally counterclaiming (suspiciously late). Both ways though, I'll roll the dice on the shot tonight. The actual guard should be confident that he safe tonight so whoever opposes is not our guard. Leaving bmin as jester.

At least, that's what I have come up with given the info.

he is safe*

*Either Chris or Salvage is the survivor

ok

unvote vote wojjan

Vote: Wojjan

Ok then that's decided.

inb4 wojjan self votes

It's hammered already. (bmin, you, me)

oh I didn't even realize bmin voted

FINAL VOTE COUNT:
Wojjan (3) - bmin11, Chris, Rantai
Rantai (1) - Wojjan
====================================
Not Voting (1) - Salvage

In the darkness, majority of the people agreed that Wojjan was the one to go.
Everyone then reached out and subdued Wojjan. It was still dark, but they managed to do it.

Rantai then jumped on Wojjan and fished something out of the pockets.
Suddenly, the lights flickered back on.

Rantai was holding a gun in his hands. It was the thing he fished out of Wojjan's pockets.
Angrily, he shot Wojjan in the head then kept on hitting Wojjan with the butt of the gun until all that was left was an unrecognizable bloody corpse...
Wojjan - Inmate (Lynchee) - Lynched Day 1

"My revenge is complete!"
Everyone looked at each other in disgust and horror. There was no telling what Rantai would do now...
Rantai - Avenger - Won Day 1

bmin11 - Escapee - Lost Day 1
Chris - Mental Patient - Lost Day 1
Salvage - Guard - Lost Day 1

Comments:
Nice Lyncher play from Rantai.
At first I didn't think his gambit of claiming Mafia would pay off, but it did.
Kudos to that.

aw gj rantai

being a jester is hard cause when I am bad it is obvious

claiming guard was my only play, but why the hellll didn't wojjan counter claim mafia to begin with

Whew. That was a lot of work >.<

Wojjan was soft claiming mafia for half the game. I got lucky that she didn't follow through though.

rofl ... nice one rantai



btw that guard claim was awfull chris, really.

Salvage wrote:

rofl ... nice one rantai



btw that guard claim was awfull chris, really.

not really

you thought I was survivor the entire game and everyone was like

"let's lynch survivor" but no one would vote for me

also on top of it I never get lynched so it's hard for me to be a jester

i thought u were survivor but i said u could be faking it being jester, u were between those 2 roles anyways.

after u claimed my role it was even more obvious too.

Salvage wrote:

after u claimed my role it was even more obvious too.

of course it was to you because it was your role

all I needed was 2 votes though and no one could confirm anything

no, there were a lot of things that indicated that i was a guard other than my obvious knowledge of the role

gj Rantai

you are all
terrible

also didn't guard win too? not lynchee, maf dead

true


i won fuck yea

i love this blonde girl

No, the Guard does not win.

NoHItter wrote:

You are the Guard.

You knew you shouldn't have volunteered to take the last prisoners out, but you have no choice now.
What's worse is that someone stole your gun during the earlier struggle, but you still have your bulletproof vest.

You are a One-Shot Bulletproof.
You win when all the possible threats towards you have been eliminated.
Note: Inmate and Avenger

well
they are
swift have you read the thread

i can't believe this guy \ /

ROFL



me neither oh my god.

>_> <_< >_< >_> <_<

Thanks for pointing that out.
Though I'm lazy to edit the day ending text.

yay!

Rofl, grats xD

same! lol