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Kevin.o2SE - Red Sign

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darrihuka
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darrihuka
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2008年10月27日 at 20:54:55

Artist: Kevin.o2SE
Title: Red Sign
BPM: 80
Filesize: 3157kb
Play Time: 02:52
Difficulties Available:
  1. Relaxing (4.48 stars, 337 notes)
  2. DaRRi MIx (4.79 stars, 583 notes)
Download: Kevin.o2SE - Red Sign
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O2Jam Series.
Enjoy this =]

+EDIT

- 02:34:756 Changed the pink sliders.
- Timing fix (following awp's test result).
- Max score lowered
Last edited by darrihuka , edited 11 times in total.
Mogsy
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sdfghsdgfhj Holy crap that's crazy. I guess you know that this is not going to be ranked, right? Approved, hah. At least I think it's that hard. :\

Okay, onto modding.

-Is it just me or is it really hard to hear the hitsounds?
-00:12:140 (8) - Move this away from the end of 7.
-00:12:327 - A beat should be here. Make this one the start of a new combo, not the next 1.
-00:19:640 (5) - Move this away from the end of 4.
-00:21:140 (4) - Move this away from the end of 3.
-00:23:765 - I feel like the spinner's spot on, but that a break would probably be better here.
-00:38:097 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark from this.
-00:38:697 (1) - ^
-00:38:897 (1) - ^
-00:39:097 (1) - ^
-00:54:385 (2) - Make this the start of a new combo.
-00:55:285 (1) - Dunno if it's just me who feels this way, but it's really hard to see that slider.
-01:58:040 (9) - Make this the start of a new combo.
-02:50:756 (1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3) - While there's nothing wrong this this part, technically, some part of me feels like this should be a spinner.

Approved material or not, starred.
Sousei
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Sousei
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Cyclone
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Cyclone
I don't think it's too hard to be ranked, i almost FC'd it on my sightread(got a fake S).

I'll wait to mod until the fixes mogs has are implemented
darrihuka
Topic Starter
darrihuka
-00:12:140 (8) - fixed
-00:12:327 - remain
-00:19:640 (5) - fixed
-00:21:140 (4) - fixed
-00:23:765 - remain
-00:38:097 (1) - remain
-00:38:697 (1) - ^
-00:38:897 (1) - ^
-00:39:097 (1) - ^
-00:54:385 (2) - fixed
-00:55:285 (1) - fixed
-01:58:040 (9) - remain
-02:50:756 (1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3) - remain

[Relaxing] Added
Echo
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I wasn't WOWed by this map like some of your other ones. There were definitely good bits in there, but there were some parts like section at 2:00-2:20 in hard that seemed repetitive to me. Also 00:36:07 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) feels too long as a stack.

Maybe it's this kind of song genre, but from your current track record I think you can spice it up a bit if you try.

Or, you can just get 2 other mods to rank this for you :P
Rolled
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Rolled
I disagree with echo, this is a very fun map and personally I wouldn't change anything about it. That stack that echo mentioned is the only thing that feels off to me.. though i don't know why. I get like 15 100's from that bitch alone.

As for 2:00-2:20, that is my favorite part of the map. Great fun, can't imagine it being mapped any better.

This beatmap has a pretty steep score to it, but it was okay'd by echo/peppy. The only thing troubling me is relaxing difficulty and its rankability (lol new word) The overall flow of the beatmap is well for a relaxing map but the piano run ~2mins in takes the difficulty off the chart for a normal map. I'm going to request it be dumbed down or another difficulty made before this has my bubble.

edit: the 4.5 was also given the okay by echo.
...not that I'm not confident in my opinion or anything, I just don't like going against ranking standards :P Anywho, here's a bubble.
James
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James
the green circle 2 at somewhere at 00:41 is still being discussed (sheesh)
he disagees on it but to put it at the white tick but he did not do the same thing at 02:24:35 (1)


..and the timing is abit off (early?) for me
darrihuka
Topic Starter
darrihuka

James wrote:

the green circle 2 at somewhere at 00:41 is still being discussed (sheesh)
he disagees on it but to put it at the white tick but he did not do the same thing at 02:24:35 (1)


..and the timing is abit off (early?) for me
sorry i currently dont want to change that 2 and i dont think i have to do the same thing with same melodys.
i still insist on it.

about the timing, rolled and me ss'd Relaxing, i think that is OK. Everyone has (slightly)different feelings.
But if someone has better offsets providing, i will take that.
Thank you.
James
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James
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
darrihuka
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darrihuka
i'm asking for suggestions and i really appreciate every one.
but i will take suggestions at least if i "can accept" them.
i really don't want to make a map not acceptable to myself.
hope you can understand. :o
Echo
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I have to admit that 0:41 sounds like a 1--2--3- rhythm but 2:24 sounds like a 1---2-3- rhythm when slowed down.
Rolled
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Rolled

Echo wrote:

I have to admit that 0:41 sounds like a 1--2--3- rhythm but 2:24 sounds like a 1---2-3- rhythm when slowed down.
Isn't that how it currently is?

Is my bubble void now? I don't mind either spot being discussed, just one of those things you have to learn which is acceptable in a map as hard(ish) as this. It could go either way, imo, which is why I don't think it deserves a star.

Also whether or not timing is off, I don't think it deserves a debubble if no better timing is provided. Like I said I'm not 100% with timing but if not for that one large stack at the beginning, I'd get ~15-20 100's on darri's mix. With such high overall difficulty I think this is a good enough timing.
Echo
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Rephrasing my last post: I think the spot pointed out by james is fine the way it is.

I'm not too sure on timing, but I think it's good enough like Rolled said.
Rolled
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Rolled
In that case, rebubbling.
Cyclone
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Ok, I can't figrue out a good fix on the timing, but there's something definitely wrong with it. I could not SS that first stream at 00:36:095 until i put a timing section on the first note and made the BPM 152.50. I'm not going to de-bubble since i'm not 100% certain on this myself, but i want somebody to look at that.
darrihuka
Topic Starter
darrihuka

Cyclone wrote:

Ok, I can't figrue out a good fix on the timing, but there's something definitely wrong with it. I could not SS that first stream at 00:36:095 until i put a timing section on the first note and made the BPM 152.50. I'm not going to de-bubble since i'm not 100% certain on this myself, but i want somebody to look at that.

I listened to the sound of the FIRST and the LAST note of that stream under 25% Playback Rate and i think it fit the song.
Will somebody also have a check at it?
awp
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I didn't feel the timing was terribly off at all: the first second is probably on average 1 or 2 ms slow. That's negligeable. Second timing section...I have to agree with Cyclone's 150.20. The third timing point's about 150.09. The fourth timing section is about 4ms late. The 6th section feels 5ms late to me. Same goes for the 7th.

I'm going to drop this down to a star to give you time to tweak the timing sections. Also, while I absolutely love watching this map on autoplay (the song is pretty sweet, too), I would definitely not rank [DaRRi Mix]. It just feels too overmapped in some sections. Some examples being:

02:01:97 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,
2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,1,2,1)

and

02:37:95 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,1,1,1,1).

Sections like this have assisted in a song of under three minutes having a max score of over 15 million for anyone really good at holding the fire button in good rhythm (and rapid z/x streams).

Also, something minor, but in [Relaxing] (which imo isn't that relaxing) the spacing of notes on the grid could use a tweak in some areas where there's just too much overlap. The score explosions get in the way of what's going on a bit too much.
Cyclone
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7 100's with a dropped slider(my hand twitched)

I feel much more comfortable with this timing.

HP drain down one notch lowers score by about 3 million. Would that be rankable for you awp?

Bubbled.
machol30
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This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
m980
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I loved this map before and I still love it. I don't really mind the Overmapped thing.

<3 Ranked.
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