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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2018年1月24日星期三 at 22:58:41

Artist: Ceui
Title: Haruoto*Veil
Source: 春音アリス＊グラム
Tags: Haruoto Alice*Gram Galgame Eroge Opening Short Version NanaWind Oiso Imouto koko Imouto OuO Ametrin
BPM: 180
Filesize: 5060kb
Play Time: 01:38
Difficulties Available:

Alice Gram (5.41 stars, 390 notes)
Collab Easy (1.52 stars, 112 notes)
Hard (3.3 stars, 282 notes)
koko's Insane (4.55 stars, 402 notes)
Normal (2.02 stars, 157 notes)
Oiso's Insane (4.98 stars, 440 notes)

Download: Ceui - Haruoto*Veil
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Alice Gram: Dored
Oiso's Insane: Oiso
koko's Insane: Imouto koko
Hard: Dored
Normal: Dored
Collab Easy: Ametrin and Dored

Nomination: sahuang and Kencho

Last edited by Dored 2022-07-18T14:58:13+00:00, edited 99 times in total.

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

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Pata-Mon 2017-10-07T13:36:27+00:00

irc

2017-10-07 21:07 [DarkStar]: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1434320 Ceui - Haruoto*Veil]
2017-10-07 21:10 Pata-Mon: 作为第一次做来讲 非常不错
2017-10-07 21:11 Pata-Mon: 从rank角度来讲最大的问题可能是整体位置
2017-10-07 21:11 Pata-Mon: 你全选一下
2017-10-07 21:11 Pata-Mon: 看看你摆的东西都在啥位置
2017-10-07 21:11 Pata-Mon: 然后打开一张别的图全选一下
2017-10-07 21:11 Pata-Mon: 看看别人的东西在什么位置
2017-10-07 21:13 [DarkStar]: 就是说太集中了没有把所有位置都用到吗?
2017-10-07 21:13 Pata-Mon: 对
2017-10-07 21:13 Pata-Mon: 而且你要了解下编辑器里可以摆到什么位置
2017-10-07 21:14 Pata-Mon: 比如摆到最下方，编辑器里出屏幕的位置，实际却不一定出
2017-10-07 21:14 Pata-Mon: 基本上来讲，纵坐标可以摆在0-384
2017-10-07 21:14 Pata-Mon: 横坐标是0-512
2017-10-07 21:14 Pata-Mon: 看右上角显示的坐标，也就是每个note的中心坐标
2017-10-07 21:14 Pata-Mon: 所以可用空间比你这个要广很多
2017-10-07 21:15 Pata-Mon: 然后说其他问题
2017-10-07 21:15 Pata-Mon: 首先的话是nc太频繁了
2017-10-07 21:15 Pata-Mon: 低难度完全没必要这么多nc
2017-10-07 21:15 Pata-Mon: 像你这图
2017-10-07 21:15 Pata-Mon: 固定每小节一个nc足够
2017-10-07 21:16 Pata-Mon: 00:08:135 (1) - 像这种单独的nc
2017-10-07 21:16 Pata-Mon: 都十分莫名其妙且多余
2017-10-07 21:16 [DarkStar]: nc是什么？
2017-10-07 21:16 Pata-Mon: new combo
2017-10-07 21:16 [DarkStar]: 哦哦
2017-10-07 21:16 Pata-Mon: 下nc要有一个固定的逻辑，最常见的就是固定一小节或者多长时间一次nc
2017-10-07 21:17 Pata-Mon: 一般情况下不用太频繁
2017-10-07 21:17 [DarkStar]: 嗯嗯
2017-10-07 21:17 Pata-Mon: 然后排列方面，已经不错了，但两个方向要注意
2017-10-07 21:17 Pata-Mon: 一方面是细节，很多包，其实明显能看出包歪了
2017-10-07 21:18 Pata-Mon: 位置关系方面 00:03:802 (2,4) - 像这种不直接相邻的物件
2017-10-07 21:18 Pata-Mon: 其实也用你的标准ds
2017-10-07 21:18 Pata-Mon: 会更整洁吧
2017-10-07 21:19 Pata-Mon: 00:52:969 (2,2) - 然后像这样的无意义overlap
2017-10-07 21:19 Pata-Mon: 就是重叠，或者擦边
2017-10-07 21:19 Pata-Mon: 00:59:969 (2,1) - 
2017-10-07 21:19 Pata-Mon: 也都会比较难看
2017-10-07 21:19 Pata-Mon: 总之细节如果全都做到位，一眼看上去感受是不同的，会舒服很多
2017-10-07 21:20 Pata-Mon: 然后最后说节奏
2017-10-07 21:20 Pata-Mon: 节奏基本已经做到可以玩，但是可提高的空间也不小
2017-10-07 21:20 Pata-Mon: 00:07:969 (3,1) - 比如这里，你在跟的是高的钢琴音对吧
2017-10-07 21:20 Pata-Mon: 那是不是这里换成一个1/2的折返滑条比较好
2017-10-07 21:21 Pata-Mon: 00:08:135 - 这里就没必要clickable
2017-10-07 21:21 [DarkStar]: 嗯 是
2017-10-07 21:21 Pata-Mon: 等等 我突然发现你timing不对
2017-10-07 21:21 Pata-Mon: 红线位置错了半拍
2017-10-07 21:22 [DarkStar]: ...
2017-10-07 21:22 Pata-Mon: 你看 每小节是在00:23:969 - 00:25:302 - 00:26:635 - 00:27:969 - 00:29:302 - ……这些地方开始的
2017-10-07 21:22 Pata-Mon: 所以你红线应该也往后错半拍
2017-10-07 21:22 Pata-Mon: 00:01:302 - 就是放在这里
2017-10-07 21:23 Pata-Mon: 当然这样你就需要在红线前放东西了，所以你也可以再减去一小节的时长，也就是offset用负数
2017-10-07 21:23 Pata-Mon: 这是允许的
2017-10-07 21:23 Pata-Mon: 好先接着说节奏
2017-10-07 21:23 [DarkStar]: 原来这样啊 我还以为是从第一个音开始
2017-10-07 21:23 Pata-Mon: 顺带一提 你开没开自动保存聊天记录
2017-10-07 21:24 [DarkStar]: 在设置里吗 我看一眼
2017-10-07 21:24 [DarkStar]: 原来没开 现在开了
2017-10-07 21:24 Pata-Mon: 如果没开的话建议开开，尤其对于麻婆很有用
2017-10-07 21:25 Pata-Mon: 你可以/savelog存之前的日志
2017-10-07 21:25 [DarkStar]: 开之前的话也能保存到吗
2017-10-07 21:25 Pata-Mon: 不能
2017-10-07 21:25 Pata-Mon: 你可以打我说的那个命令
2017-10-07 21:25 Pata-Mon: 你没关聊天框的话
2017-10-07 21:25 [DarkStar]: 好的好的
2017-10-07 21:26 Pata-Mon: 00:33:135 (1) - 这里你跟的奇怪
2017-10-07 21:26 Pata-Mon: 前面基本都挺好，很明显地在跟人声（vocal）
2017-10-07 21:26 Pata-Mon: 00:33:302 - 这里是人声+鼓的重音（调完offset你也会发现这里也是一小节的开始）
2017-10-07 21:26 Pata-Mon: 这里应该clickable会比较好
2017-10-07 21:27 Pata-Mon: 00:39:969 - 然后这里，虽然没有人声，但是节奏上的重音，除了是小节开始外还有锣声
2017-10-07 21:27 Pata-Mon: 最好也clickable
2017-10-07 21:28 Pata-Mon: 然后还有就是没有人声的那些地方，你哪里跟哪里不跟好像不太有逻辑
2017-10-07 21:28 Pata-Mon: 1/4的音也是，跟不跟的选择比较随意
2017-10-07 21:28 Pata-Mon: 00:42:219 - 比如这个1/4可以说非常明显
2017-10-07 21:29 Pata-Mon: 不知道为啥没跟
2017-10-07 21:29 Pata-Mon: 00:50:969 (2,3) - 这里 你跟vocal的话，感觉ctrl+G下节奏更好吧
2017-10-07 21:30 Pata-Mon: 00:56:219 - 这里漏1/4页比较难受，加个note比较好
2017-10-07 21:30 Pata-Mon: 01:06:302 (1) - 不太建议这种1/2的多次折返
2017-10-07 21:30 Pata-Mon: 这种只有老图里比较常见
2017-10-07 21:30 Pata-Mon: 新图都不怎么用了 因为很难读而且不舒服
2017-10-07 21:31 Pata-Mon: 01:15:969 - 这里也是，虽没有vocal，但伴奏是非常重的音
2017-10-07 21:31 Pata-Mon: 01:23:969 (1,2) - 这种遮挡不太建议，尤其还是挡了折返箭头
2017-10-07 21:32 Pata-Mon: 就先这些吧，很多我没提到的地方也要多考虑下哪里该空哪里不该空
2017-10-07 21:32 Pata-Mon: 这方面是有些随意，我没都挑
2017-10-07 21:35 [DarkStar]: 嗯 主要是感觉有很多音 哪边都想就乎 然后有些乱了 以后我会好好想想怎么跟的

zhuizhui

179 posts

Joined January 2017

zhuizhui 2017-11-05T12:37:46+00:00

Pata 太强啦

首先timing， offset 建议1162，可以根据这个值进行你觉得音乐在的点进行上调下调，因为貌似有点小提前。

Hard

00:07:968 (1) - 这里拉个1/1的条岂不美哉 w

00:10:829 (1,2,3) - 这三个做成00:09:829 (2,3,4) - 跟这三个一样感觉好一点，音乐上对称。

00:14:802 (1) - 1/1 的条 -w- 因为你看你00:14:135 (4) - 音乐上面是哒哒哒，然后00:14:802 (1) 只有一声，不如跟00:15:302 (2) - 做个blanket？
00:15:302 (2) - 然后这里可以改成一个单点试试效果

00:17:302 (1) - 这儿拉成折返如何？ 00:18:135 (3) - 然后这里单点 00:18:302 (4) - 这里拉个1/4 然后折返

00:18:635 (1) - 做成跟00:15:968 (1,2) - 00:18:802 (2) - 这里做个1/2然后折返

00:20:135 (6) - 加个点比较好？我不确定，其实这里有音但很难听见，但是加一个圈，感觉舒服一点？

00:22:802 - 00:23:135 - 00:23:468 - 00:23:635 - 这四个地方都有轻微鼓声，但声音较小可以试下调下sample 音量，但00:23:385 - 这儿有一段哒哒哒哒哒哒 -w- 可以1/4折返几次？ ~~看你怎么处理，我个人倾向于鼓声，如果是insane又能做成串了>>~~

~~才发现你后面有三连，不如试着做成串？~~

我后面又听了听才听到第三种音orz 可以试着这样00:22:802 (1) - 条 00:23:135 (2) - 圈 00:23:302 (3) - 圈 00:23:468 (4) - 1/2，然后折返

00:25:135 (5) - 00:31:635 (4) - 00:50:635 (5) - 这里建议做个1/2条， >。>

00:36:135 (1,2,3,4) - 做成跟这里一样？00:25:468 (1,2,1) -

00:37:302 (1) - 这个地方感觉没必要nc

00:38:468 (4) - 这里做成个折返如何？

01:21:635 (7) - 这里试着减缓一下速度吧，，不然我觉得你后面就显得有点突兀

目前暂时就前面的问题，，kial 那段挺好，就是你改了timing别忘了重新设置下kial

01:15:968 (5) - 01:25:218 (2,3) - 这个，，有点丑不得不说。。。

01:07:968 (1,2) - 这两个挺棒的！！

Dored

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Dored 2017-11-05T13:42:00+00:00

-Kyouka- wrote:
Pata 太强啦

首先timing， offset 建议1162，可以根据这个值进行你觉得音乐在的点进行上调下调，因为貌似有点小提前。 1162？试了一下好像不太对..不过我仔细听了一些好像是有一点小提前我会适当调整一下的至于像现在设置负offset是pata说的我觉得没有问题
Hard
00:07:968 (1) - 这里拉个1/1的条岂不美哉 w 因为前奏的钢琴一直分高音部分和低音部分我是确保了高音clickable然后让低音部分也有音效不过低音部分好像确实存在感比较低直接略过去也可以这点我回来会再考虑考虑的
00:10:829 (1,2,3) - 这三个做成00:09:829 (2,3,4) - 跟这三个一样感觉好一点，音乐上对称。好

00:14:802 (1) - 1/1 的条 -w- 因为你看你00:14:135 (4) - 音乐上面是哒哒哒，然后00:14:802 (1) 只有一声，不如跟00:15:302 (2) - 做个blanket？
00:15:302 (2) - 然后这里可以改成一个单点试试效果 00:14:802 (1) - 也是和上面说的一样钢琴低音的问题我会考虑的

00:17:302 (1) - 这儿拉成折返如何？ 00:18:135 (3) - 然后这里单点 00:18:302 (4) - 这里拉个1/4 然后折返好

00:18:635 (1) - 做成跟00:15:968 (1,2) - 00:18:802 (2) - 这里做个1/2然后折返好

00:20:135 (6) - 加个点比较好？我不确定，其实这里有音但很难听见，但是加一个圈，感觉舒服一点？确实感觉顺畅很多就是塞得有点满但我觉得可以有
00:22:802 - 00:23:135 - 00:23:468 - 00:23:635 - 这四个地方都有轻微鼓声，但声音较小可以试下调下sample 音量，但00:23:385 - 这儿有一段哒哒哒哒哒哒 -w- 可以1/4折返几次？ ~~看你怎么处理，我个人倾向于鼓声，如果是insane又能做成串了>>~~

~~才发现你后面有三连，不如试着做成串？~~

我后面又听了听才听到第三种音orz 可以试着这样00:22:802 (1) - 条 00:23:135 (2) - 圈 00:23:302 (3) - 圈 00:23:468 (4) - 1/2，然后折返前面可以最后那个折返我考虑一下
00:25:135 (5) - 00:31:635 (4) - 00:50:635 (5) - 这里建议做个1/2条， >。> 停顿一下是感觉这样比较有节奏但vocal确实拉了点长音很纠结我按你说的改吧

00:36:135 (1,2,3,4) - 做成跟这里一样？00:25:468 (1,2,1) - 主要是考虑到00:36:802 (3) - 这里有1/4的连续鼓声才做成这样的我再看看吧

00:37:302 (1) - 这个地方感觉没必要nc 啊？我这里怎么看我是4 没有nc呢233 不知道怎么回事

00:38:468 (4) - 这里做成个折返如何？好

01:21:635 (7) - 这里试着减缓一下速度吧，，不然我觉得你后面就显得有点突兀我会调整的

目前暂时就前面的问题，，kial 那段挺好，就是你改了timing别忘了重新设置下kial

01:15:968 (5) - 01:25:218 (2,3) - 这个，，有点丑不得不说。。。这样其实比一个单点然后三连打打起来稍微简单一点..我会调整的

01:07:968 (1,2) - 这两个挺棒的！！谢谢~

感谢大佬的mod！

zhuizhui

179 posts

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zhuizhui 2017-11-06T11:57:03+00:00

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Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2017-11-24T17:46:57+00:00

快速过一遍
ez
节奏不算很理想吧，只能说能接受．像这种vocal节奏复杂的情况下去只vocal，ez基本上都是不太找得到节奏的，因为vocal很密你就不可能在ez里全都跟到，那你跟什么不跟什么就很谜，然后这重音跟鼓点还是错位的，就比较难找．
说几个最不合适的．00:33:136 (2) - 00:48:969 (3) - 这种都是只是找了个第一个vocal就当起点，然而第一个vocal根本不重
然后整体节奏结构比较奇怪，kiai几乎是最疏最简单的部分……
这种歌想一开始就在ez下好跟vocal的节奏太难了，跟鼓会比较简单一些．
其他的问题
00:42:969 (1,2) - ez不要stack，这种隔比较久的也不需要完全ds，稍微远点就行了
整体排列倒是还挺好看

normal
00:14:803 (3,4) - normal虽然可以stack，但不要用混合的stack（就是有的stack是1/2 有的是1/1 有的是什么什么），这样很难读，所有stack都固定一个gap是最好的，一般来讲都是最小的gap，比如你这个难度就只有1/2可以stack是最好的，其他都不要stack
00:18:636 (1) - 这种扭的地方重叠部分过大的滑条不是很建议在低难度用，比如这个就很容易被读成1/1滑条
然后节奏方面还是这问题，只跟vocal常常很难受．其实你打老图的时候是不是经常感觉找不到节奏？原因常常就是老图常常就无视鼓点只跟vocal，这样的节奏让别人去打往往都是很难抓的．不过normal节奏密度本身就比ez高，所以其实效果比ez好不少
排列挺好

hard
这难度就做得很不错了，已经是经过mod后可以rank的水准，并且摆得还比较好看
00:36:803 (4) - 这样突然折返3次是很难读的．这种节奏的话，如果是重音起（一般是白线），可以改成https://puu.sh/ysJOs/69907a8d83.png，如果是弱音起（一般是红线），可以改成https://puu.sh/ysJNs/1975b4ef66.png，像这里就是弱起用后面那种会比较好
00:38:469 (1) - 在00:38:803 - 结束然后00:38:969 - 放个圈（或者1/2滑条，因为00:39:136 - 其实完全没必要用圈跟）会比较好
00:46:136 (3,1) - 00:46:803 (2,3) - 这种overlap会比较迷……正常放就好
00:47:969 (1,2) - 稍微有一点风险，因为视觉ds的关系看起来会比较像1/2gap
00:59:969 (1,2) - 同上
01:02:636 - 这里是重音，01:02:469 - 这里一个圈然后01:02:636 - 开始滑条会比较好
01:21:303 (1,3) - 碰到了

主难度做得挺不错的没啥太大问题感觉差不多能rank
最难跳那里有点overdone了，没有那么合曲．然后有些小擦边之类的细节懒得挑了，可以自己看看

Dored

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Dored 2017-11-25T02:59:18+00:00

Pata-Mon wrote:
快速过一遍
ez
节奏不算很理想吧，只能说能接受．像这种vocal节奏复杂的情况下去只vocal，ez基本上都是不太找得到节奏的，因为vocal很密你就不可能在ez里全都跟到，那你跟什么不跟什么就很谜，然后这重音跟鼓点还是错位的，就比较难找．
说几个最不合适的．00:33:136 (2) - 00:48:969 (3) - 这种都是只是找了个第一个vocal就当起点，然而第一个vocal根本不重
然后整体节奏结构比较奇怪，kiai几乎是最疏最简单的部分……
这种歌想一开始就在ez下好跟vocal的节奏太难了，跟鼓会比较简单一些．
其他的问题
00:42:969 (1,2) - ez不要stack，这种隔比较久的也不需要完全ds，稍微远点就行了
整体排列倒是还挺好看

normal
00:14:803 (3,4) - normal虽然可以stack，但不要用混合的stack（就是有的stack是1/2 有的是1/1 有的是什么什么），这样很难读，所有stack都固定一个gap是最好的，一般来讲都是最小的gap，比如你这个难度就只有1/2可以stack是最好的，其他都不要stack
00:18:636 (1) - 这种扭的地方重叠部分过大的滑条不是很建议在低难度用，比如这个就很容易被读成1/1滑条
然后节奏方面还是这问题，只跟vocal常常很难受．其实你打老图的时候是不是经常感觉找不到节奏？原因常常就是老图常常就无视鼓点只跟vocal，这样的节奏让别人去打往往都是很难抓的．不过normal节奏密度本身就比ez高，所以其实效果比ez好不少
排列挺好

hard
这难度就做得很不错了，已经是经过mod后可以rank的水准，并且摆得还比较好看
00:36:803 (4) - 这样突然折返3次是很难读的．这种节奏的话，如果是重音起（一般是白线），可以改成https://puu.sh/ysJOs/69907a8d83.png，如果是弱音起（一般是红线），可以改成https://puu.sh/ysJNs/1975b4ef66.png，像这里就是弱起用后面那种会比较好
00:38:469 (1) - 在00:38:803 - 结束然后00:38:969 - 放个圈（或者1/2滑条，因为00:39:136 - 其实完全没必要用圈跟）会比较好
00:46:136 (3,1) - 00:46:803 (2,3) - 这种overlap会比较迷……正常放就好
00:47:969 (1,2) - 稍微有一点风险，因为视觉ds的关系看起来会比较像1/2gap
00:59:969 (1,2) - 同上
01:02:636 - 这里是重音，01:02:469 - 这里一个圈然后01:02:636 - 开始滑条会比较好
01:21:303 (1,3) - 碰到了

主难度做得挺不错的没啥太大问题感觉差不多能rank
最难跳那里有点overdone了，没有那么合曲．然后有些小擦边之类的细节懒得挑了，可以自己看看

针对Normal、Hard所有建议均已采纳对于easy我打算remap一下主难度的话我会看情况改的
感谢摸图！

sodarose

607 posts

Joined July 2011

sodarose 2017-11-26T04:46:39+00:00

[Alice Gram]
00:23:969 (1) - 到00:32:969 (4) - 这里这段跟人声感觉效果不太好，我比较喜欢跟鼓
00:51:969 (1,1) - 01:02:136 (5,2) - 有些stack歪了
01:22:136 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 我不喜欢为了下梗而牺牲节奏跟手感。前面都是随着音乐加大间距了为什么这里突然来了个急刹车缩小间距

[Normal]
00:14:136 (2,3,4) - 你的间距很奇怪啊
00:23:969 (1) - 到 00:42:636 (6) - 我觉得节奏需要remap。pata也说了你完全无视了鼓跟的人声。你会发现好像毫无节奏感，而且音效也不知道怎么下。kiai段就好很多

现在新人这么强的吗

Dored

287 posts

Joined May 2017

Topic Starter

Dored 2017-11-26T18:24:44+00:00

sodarose wrote:
[Alice Gram]
00:23:969 (1) - 到00:32:969 (4) - 这里这段跟人声感觉效果不太好，我比较喜欢跟鼓这段我需要考虑一下没想好要不要重做效果确实不是很理想
00:51:969 (1,1) - 01:02:136 (5,2) - 有些stack歪了改了
01:22:136 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 我不喜欢为了下梗而牺牲节奏跟手感。前面都是随着音乐加大间距了为什么这里突然来了个急刹车缩小间距改了

[Normal]
00:14:136 (2,3,4) - 你的间距很奇怪啊 ...之前改摸时动了动没注意疏忽了改了
00:23:969 (1) - 到 00:42:636 (6) - 我觉得节奏需要remap。pata也说了你完全无视了鼓跟的人声。你会发现好像毫无节奏感，而且音效也不知道怎么下。kiai段就好很多好的这段我会remap的

现在新人这么强的吗

感谢摸图！

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Imouto koko 2017-11-26T19:00:42+00:00

from mod req
怎么hard点了下update也突然没了……
easy和hard都re了吗。

[Normal]

00:48:803 - 这段跟轨有点乱啊，如果是鼓的话这里应该有个圈，把00:48:969 (3) - 移到这个地方来。
00:51:303 (2,3) - 如果全程跟人声的话那么00:51:303 (2,3) - 这里又不是人声了，如果是鼓的话，2和3交换一下位置吧。

[Alice Gram]

00:10:303 (4,1) - 再远一点比较好。
01:17:803 (2,3) - 这个急刹感觉不是太有节奏或者旋律支撑，可以考虑3放01:18:136 (1) - 的右上方。

排列挺干净的，喜欢这图

GL

Dored

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Dored 2017-11-27T00:59:21+00:00

Imouto koko wrote:
from mod req
怎么hard点了下update也突然没了…… 这个Hard总提示更新一更新就清空我也很头疼
easy和hard都re了吗。
[Normal]
00:48:803 - 这段跟轨有点乱啊，如果是鼓的话这里应该有个圈，把00:48:969 (3) - 移到这个地方来。好的
00:51:303 (2,3) - 如果全程跟人声的话那么00:51:303 (2,3) - 这里又不是人声了，如果是鼓的话，2和3交换一下位置吧。好的
[Alice Gram]
00:10:303 (4,1) - 再远一点比较好。改了
01:17:803 (2,3) - 这个急刹感觉不是太有节奏或者旋律支撑，可以考虑3放01:18:136 (1) - 的右上方。好的我试试

排列挺干净的，喜欢这图谢谢！
GL

对于normal我准备把从前奏结束到kiai前的部分remap一下低难度跟人声效果确实不好
感谢摸图！

Ametrin

717 posts

Joined May 2012

Ametrin 2017-12-28T04:57:56+00:00

qtmd毕设摸图要紧(x
更新完全图消失是什么bug

[Easy]
00:09:323 (3) - 低难度要避免全部用滑条（具体参考guildline）虽然塞爆了估计也没人会怼这点……不过这个滑条还是可以改两单点的
00:13:323 (1) - ctrl+g？在低难度最好别在休息后突然从角落开始
00:17:323 (3,4) - 前面跟背景这里突然跟人声感觉很怪诶试试继续跟钢琴？
00:23:989 - 怎么就开始1/2塞爆了……这里就弄满那和kiai有啥区别这里跟人声就好
00:34:656 - 这里开始的强度也有点过……但是考虑到音乐变强了这样也行不过还是滑条太多了找地方放几个圈比如00:43:656 (2) - 留首尾两个圈就行
01:09:323 (2) - 把这个删掉都行
滑条太多节奏太密摆的还行

[Normal]
00:03:489 (5) - 只留首尾两个圈保持和00:01:156 (1,2) - 一致
00:07:156 (2) - 删掉没必要
00:11:656 - 放个转盘低难度转盘不嫌多（x）
01:09:656 (4) - 我是觉得这个没必要
01:11:989 (3,4) - 用01:01:323 (3,4,5) - 的节奏一致性
01:35:656 (3) - 不用折返后面转盘提到白线来（顺便在normal里转盘前面至少留1/2的空）

[Hard]
00:06:656 (1,2) - 改成前面折返一次后面单点？全是普通滑条还全是横的实在有点单调
00:43:323 (3) - ctrl+g 后面重音强调下

[Alice Gram]
00:02:989 (2) - ctrl+g 这四个音和前面的区别可以这样体现一下
00:05:656 (2) - ^
00:04:989 (3,4,1) - 间距为啥这么点和前面滑条之间的间距一样不好吗
00:28:989 (6) - 空拍太多

水完了 GL

Dored

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Dored 2017-12-28T09:40:52+00:00

Ametrin wrote:
qtmd毕设摸图要紧(x 比个yink
更新完全图消失是什么bug omg enh都有这个bug 问过qat让我暂且无视掉这个bug

[Easy]
00:09:323 (3) - 低难度要避免全部用滑条（具体参考guildline）虽然塞爆了估计也没人会怼这点……不过这个滑条还是可以改两单点的这个改成两个单点？首尾吗？那样感觉很违和啊其他的也想不出怎么改比较好先keep 看看别人怎么说
00:13:323 (1) - ctrl+g？在低难度最好别在休息后突然从角落开始改了
00:17:323 (3,4) - 前面跟背景这里突然跟人声感觉很怪诶试试继续跟钢琴？是这样的这个人声在这一段的存在感比钢琴要高的多而且跟钢琴的话我还是会像别的地方塞得比较密所以不如就这样
00:23:989 - 怎么就开始1/2塞爆了……这里就弄满那和kiai有啥区别这里跟人声就好这个是想保持主歌部分的一致性具体我的想法在下面说了
00:34:656 - 这里开始的强度也有点过……但是考虑到音乐变强了这样也行不过还是滑条太多了找地方放几个圈比如00:43:656 (2) - 留首尾两个圈就行改了
01:09:323 (2) - 把这个删掉都行删了
滑条太多节奏太密摆的还行是这样的这个easy是经过remap过的以前那个反而是太疏了节奏不强我对密度的理解是物件数密度比较物件数决定click的次数节奏密但是用的折返滑条多打起来仍然很简单我看过不少其他rank图感觉比我滑条多圈少的也有很多对于目前我来说控制节奏疏密恰到好处稍微有些困难所以暂且只改了一部分

[Normal]
00:03:489 (5) - 只留首尾两个圈保持和00:01:156 (1,2) - 一致改了
00:07:156 (2) - 删掉没必要改了
00:11:656 - 放个转盘低难度转盘不嫌多（x）这个我觉得长度不是很长必要不大低难度转盘不嫌多但少了好像也没什么事吧
01:09:656 (4) - 我是觉得这个没必要起个承接作用歌曲里这里也有一阵鼓声找比较重的一个点代表一下
01:11:989 (3,4) - 用01:01:323 (3,4,5) - 的节奏一致性好的
01:35:656 (3) - 不用折返后面转盘提到白线来（顺便在normal里转盘前面至少留1/2的空）好的

[Hard]
00:06:656 (1,2) - 改成前面折返一次后面单点？全是普通滑条还全是横的实在有点单调改了
00:43:323 (3) - ctrl+g 后面重音强调下好的

[Alice Gram]
00:02:989 (2) - ctrl+g 这四个音和前面的区别可以这样体现一下好的
00:05:656 (2) - ^ 嗯嗯也改了
00:04:989 (3,4,1) - 间距为啥这么点和前面滑条之间的间距一样不好吗改了
00:28:989 (6) - 空拍太多但他前后确实没什么音而且跟前面节奏走下来的话我觉得这样还算自然吧没想好怎么改先keep

水完了 GL

感谢yink神的摸！

gary00737

593 posts

Joined February 2015

gary00737 2017-12-28T11:54:07+00:00

完成度這麼高還能怎樣摸?!?

hard
00:06:156 (3,4,5,1) - 可以試試用幾何. 因為這樣看起來有點不太整齊
01:15:323 (4,5,6,1) - 這我感覺有少少節奏上問題.. 我會這樣選擇

(這個你參考用就可..不用改..因為看到你之後的節奏選擇是人聲..

01:26:989 (2) - 這個可以換成2個單點
01:28:489 - 覺得可以按

不過以上是我會跟的音每個人不一樣

神圖請飛

EDIT : 剩下的我想IRC摸. 有空看到我有空請找我

Dored

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Dored 2017-12-28T13:55:14+00:00

gary00737 wrote:
完成度這麼高還能怎樣摸?!?

hard
00:06:156 (3,4,5,1) - 可以試試用幾何. 因為這樣看起來有點不太整齊改了
01:15:323 (4,5,6,1) - 這我感覺有少少節奏上問題.. 我會這樣選擇
(這個你參考用就可..不用改..因為看到你之後的節奏選擇是人聲.. 多次折返滑条我在enh是尽量不用在这个难度里并不好读我觉得目前的下法还行先不改了

01:26:989 (2) - 這個可以換成2個單點那样就成五个连续单点了我觉得不合适
01:28:489 - 覺得可以按目前这个折返滑条第一个音感觉比后面两个音重得多所以只让它clickable凸显一下我觉得这样就好

不過以上是我會跟的音每個人不一樣

神圖請飛 gary大师真是过奖了

EDIT : 剩下的我想IRC摸. 有空看到我有空請找我

感谢摸图！Irc的建议也很有帮助！

Gust

516 posts

Joined December 2011

Gust 2017-12-29T01:40:21+00:00

hard以下我看问题没啥，就不摸了。然后很不错这个set，主难度做得很好，给个星

[koko]
koko这个我不太会看
01:26:323 (1,2) - 这误导性太大了

[雷米]
00:23:573 - 这里不该漏音，所以后面的梗考虑改一下？
00:27:156 (3) - 00:27:489 (5) - 这里的音并不支撑放note，太轻了，考虑改一下吧
00:29:239 (9) - ^
00:35:156 (3) - ^
00:42:989 (2,3) - 感觉节奏有点怪，试试下面的？

B

00:52:906 (7) - ^
01:01:656 (2) - ds是不是太小了点
01:01:989 (5,6,7) - 也是节奏有点怪，vocal重音没有落到可以点击的地方

C

https://puu.sh/yPNZk/e6a5c23c54.png

[Alice Gram]
检查Ai mod

00:29:323 (1) - 有一些不那么合vocal，然后这附近我是不推荐空拍的。推荐一个节奏的改法

A

00:31:156 (6) - 这里个人推荐改成1/2的slider,因为00:31:656 (1) - 1附近连续空了2拍，感觉不太好
01:02:489 (1) - 试试看拆成note+slider。长白线保证是可以点击的比较好
01:07:239 - 这里鼓点很明显，可以考虑放note
01:07:906 - 同
01:11:489 (2,3) - 这里音不明显却放了三连，结合上面这几条想一想什么时候该放三连呢
01:26:656 (1) - 后面这段是一些个人意见：
钢琴音保证可以点击是比较好的
比如：
01:26:656 (1) -
01:28:156 (2) -
01:30:323 (6) - 特别是这个滑条尾，很重。
01:31:489 (5) -
01:31:989 (1) -

01:38:823 - 这后面其实还可以补一个spin感觉

Dored

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Dored 2017-12-29T03:10:47+00:00

Gust wrote:
hard以下我看问题没啥，就不摸了。然后很不错这个set，主难度做得很好，给个星哇gust神真好 ~~下个月的绿帽子我不抢了让给你~~

[Alice Gram]
检查Ai mod 嗯好的看了下应该是之前改offset时造成的

00:29:323 (1) - 有一些不那么合vocal，然后这附近我是不推荐空拍的。推荐一个节奏的改法改了
A
00:31:156 (6) - 这里个人推荐改成1/2的slider,因为00:31:656 (1) - 1附近连续空了2拍，感觉不太好但它前后的红线确实没音要是那么改反而会漏掉一个白线的鼓点所以我觉得还是优先白线比较好暂且还是先这样
01:02:489 (1) - 试试看拆成note+slider。长白线保证是可以点击的比较好 emm这个确实是没错...但目前的下法比较凸显voval 在这里插了一个折返感觉还算带感吧后面也有一处那么用的 ~~而且看目前的空间和排列不太好改~~
01:07:239 - 这里鼓点很明显，可以考虑放note 这一段voval比较高算是整首歌里最突出的地方了所以优先考虑了人声目前的下法比较合vocal 不太想改
01:07:906 - 同同上
01:11:489 (2,3) - 这里音不明显却放了三连，结合上面这几条想一想什么时候该放三连呢那个音确实不明显但在kiai段我不希望看见有空拍出现只在01:11:489 (2) - 放一个单点也不太合适所以用三连避免了空拍顺便起到加强01:11:656 (4) -滑条头的那个音的效果
01:26:656 (1) - 后面这段是一些个人意见：
钢琴音保证可以点击是比较好的
比如：
01:26:656 (1) -
01:28:156 (2) -
01:30:323 (6) - 特别是这个滑条尾，很重。
01:31:489 (5) -
01:31:989 (1) -
这个我会视情况而改的我之前就是把相对轻、弱一些的音放在了滑条尾而且我比较喜欢滑条和圈的搭配如果所有钢琴音都clickable难以避免连续太多圈在最后这种不强的收尾段我觉得不合适

01:38:823 - 这后面其实还可以补一个spin感觉后面声音太小了目前这个长度适中而且和全难度统一所以keep

感谢摸图！

Firika

Beatmap Nominator

278 posts

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Firika 2017-12-29T17:36:01+00:00

Gust wrote:
[雷米]
00:23:573 - 这里不该漏音，所以后面的梗考虑改一下？保留前面的滑条就有和这个位置相同的连打音,非常轻,相对于背景鼓差很远.而且后面的5连音很明显,和前面声音强度相差十分大,所以只跟后面5个,前5连直接跟突出的鼓音
00:27:156 (3) - 00:27:489 (5) - 这里的音并不支撑放note，太轻了，考虑改一下吧 保留背景音挺明显的...
00:29:239 (9) - ^ 改了 √
00:35:156 (3) - ^ 改了 √
00:42:989 (2,3) - 感觉节奏有点怪，试试下面的？ 保留我比较喜欢用滑条跟延续的鼓音,后面人声和鼓结尾用一个circle.感觉跟人声重音也行,但是感觉不用滑条跟这个长声的鼓很难受.
B
00:52:906 (7) - ^ 改了 √
01:01:656 (2) - ds是不是太小了点 改了 √
01:01:989 (5,6,7) - 也是节奏有点怪，vocal重音没有落到可以点击的地方 改了但是不是你这样改的...用了个短滑条,然后跟了背景鼓音.
C
https://puu.sh/yPNZk/e6a5c23c54.png

感谢无敌9ust的摸

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Tags:Haruoto Alice*Gram Galgame Eroge Opening Short Version NanaWind Oiso Imouto koko Imouto OuO
BeatmapID:1502250
BeatmapSetID:677875

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//Break Periods
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//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
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Azzedd

468 posts

Joined August 2016

Azzedd 2017-12-30T08:56:44+00:00

Hello.
[koko's Insane]
00:04:323 (2,3) - i think is better to change for a slide to be consistent with theses sliders 00:01:323 (3,4) -
00:16:989 - here we have a loud sound you can enphasis with a slider
00:27:323 (2,3,4,5) - overjumped
00:34:156 (5,6,7) - stack with 00:33:823 (4) -
00:34:489 (1,2,3) - snap this combo like here 00:34:156 (5,6,7) -
00:36:656 (4) - delete this slide to stay consistent with the vocal like this 00:35:989 -
00:36:823 - the stream start here
00:39:989 - loud sound i think it's better if we can clic it
00:40:656 - you started to map vocal you should respect this all along of the map
00:41:989 - same
00:44:656 (3,4,1) - this overlap gives a negative effect to the player
00:49:989 (5,6,7) - this part is the same as 00:44:656 (3,4) - change this part for the same sliders reverses
00:51:323 (2) - put it here there 00:51:156 -
00:52:489 - 00:52:823 - i think isn't a good idea to let this song empty
01:03:656 - a slider here is better 01:03:823 - here we doesn't hear a sound that justifies its being clickable
01:04:573 (3) - start this slide on blue thick is surprising
01:07:239 (3) - same
01:15:989 (1,2,3,4) - here is the same combo and i think you can curve theses slides 01:16:323 (2,3,4) - to stay consistent
01:16:656 (3,4,1,2) - same combo too?
01:21:989 - triple here can emphasis this part maybe
01:26:323 (1,2) - emphasis here and this overlap isn't cool for the player hard to read
01:26:989 (2,3) - stack here is better
01:30:323 - slide here is good
01:31:823 - 01:33:323 - i think you can find a better rhythm

[Oiso's Insane]

00:02:656 - slider here is better
00:02:989 - here is a loud sound make clickable this sound
00:03:989 - slider better here too
00:05:323 - 00:05:656 - same part as 00:02:656 - 00:02:989 -
00:03:989 (6) - leave her empty 00:09:156 - like this so a slider here 00:09:656 (2) -
00:12:989 (1) - overmapped
00:17:323 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the angle of this jump can be better compared to its 00:16:989 (4) -
00:19:489 - this empty stop in the launch, i think is better to put a slider here 00:19:323 -
00:23:656 (3,4,5,6) - i love this patern but reduce the distance snap/makes it easier
00:25:656 (3) - that is too close
00:26:323 (6) - same
00:26:989 (2) - same
00:28:323 (3) - you did right here
00:33:157 (4,1) - enphasis
00:36:989 (5,6,7,8,1) - put the stream and the same line than 00:36:823 (4) - ( is little surprising)
00:44:656 (3,4,5) - too close than 00:44:156 (2) -
00:53:323 - 00:57:323 - i like this part
01:00:823 (4) - ctrl+g
01:01:656 (2) - https://i.imgur.com/BjEe8fU.jpg something like this
01:03:323 (3) - you can make a better angle following the direction of the slide 01:02:989 (2) -
01:04:823 (5,6,7) - do something harder overlap is good but it can tense the player
01:07:906 (7,1) - emphasis this patern
01:07:906 (7,1) - good patern but this reverse jump 01:10:823 (2,3) - need not be, change his direction
01:25:239 (6,1) - emphasis this patern too
01:25:656 (2) - care to not got out the playfield
01:32:656 (3,4,5) - why a triple?

Your map has emphasis problems otherwise the rest is good

Firika

Beatmap Nominator

278 posts

Joined January 2017

Firika 2017-12-30T17:16:08+00:00

Azzedd wrote:
[Oiso's Insane]

00:02:656 - slider here is better
00:02:989 - here is a loud sound make clickable this sound
00:03:989 - slider better here too
00:05:323 - 00:05:656 - same part as 00:02:656 - 00:02:989 -
00:03:989 (6) - leave her empty 00:09:156 - like this so a slider here 00:09:656 (2) -
00:12:989 (1) - overmapped
00:17:323 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - the angle of this jump can be better compared to its 00:16:989 (4) -
00:19:489 - this empty stop in the launch, i think is better to put a slider here 00:19:323 -
00:23:656 (3,4,5,6) - i love this patern but reduce the distance snap/makes it easier
00:25:656 (3) - that is too close
00:26:323 (6) - same
00:26:989 (2) - same
00:28:323 (3) - you did right here
00:33:157 (4,1) - enphasis
00:36:989 (5,6,7,8,1) - put the stream and the same line than 00:36:823 (4) - ( is little surprising)
00:44:656 (3,4,5) - too close than 00:44:156 (2) -
00:53:323 - 00:57:323 - i like this part THX
01:00:823 (4) - ctrl+g
01:01:656 (2) - https://i.imgur.com/BjEe8fU.jpg something like this Right,I fix it √
01:03:323 (3) - you can make a better angle following the direction of the slide 01:02:989 (2) -
01:04:823 (5,6,7) - do something harder overlap is good but it can tense the player
01:07:906 (7,1) - emphasis this patern
01:07:906 (7,1) - good patern but this reverse jump 01:10:823 (2,3) - need not be, change his direction
01:25:239 (6,1) - emphasis this patern too
01:25:656 (2) - care to not got out the playfield Fixed √
01:32:656 (3,4,5) - why a triple? Fixed, triple is wrong √

Your idea is right, but i don't think my idea is wrong... so I only fix some necessary problems...(red note)
Your map has emphasis problems otherwise the rest is good Thanks for modding~

Oiso's Insane

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Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Imouto koko 2017-12-31T05:07:49+00:00

Gust wrote:
[koko]
koko这个我不太会看
01:26:323 (1,2) - 这误导性太大了

Gust这个我不太会改(run

Azzedd wrote:
[koko's Insane]
00:04:323 (2,3) - i think is better to change for a slide to be consistent with theses sliders 00:01:323 (3,4) - adjusted.
00:16:989 - here we have a loud sound you can enphasis with a slider
00:27:323 (2,3,4,5) - overjumped adjusted.
00:34:156 (5,6,7) - stack with 00:33:823 (4) - fixed.
00:34:489 (1,2,3) - snap this combo like here 00:34:156 (5,6,7) - fixed.
00:36:656 (4) - delete this slide to stay consistent with the vocal like this 00:35:989 -
00:36:823 - the stream start here
00:39:989 - loud sound i think it's better if we can clic it
00:40:656 - you started to map vocal you should respect this all along of the map
00:41:989 - same
00:44:656 (3,4,1) - this overlap gives a negative effect to the player fixed.
00:49:989 (5,6,7) - this part is the same as 00:44:656 (3,4) - change this part for the same sliders reverses
00:51:323 (2) - put it here there 00:51:156 -
00:52:489 - 00:52:823 - i think isn't a good idea to let this song empty
01:03:656 - a slider here is better 01:03:823 - here we doesn't hear a sound that justifies its being clickable
01:04:573 (3) - start this slide on blue thick is surprising
01:07:239 (3) - same
01:15:989 (1,2,3,4) - here is the same combo and i think you can curve theses slides 01:16:323 (2,3,4) - to stay consistent
01:16:656 (3,4,1,2) - same combo too?
01:21:989 - triple here can emphasis this part maybe
01:26:323 (1,2) - emphasis here and this overlap isn't cool for the player hard to read
01:26:989 (2,3) - stack here is better
01:30:323 - slide here is good
01:31:823 - 01:33:323 - i think you can find a better rhythm

very helpful, thx!

papapa213

152 posts

Joined November 2014

papapa213 2018-01-01T05:52:45+00:00

[Easy]
00:04:989 (2) - ds，低难度好像误差应该在0.03以下
[Normal]
00:09:323 (2) - 加nc然后去掉前面1的nc吧
[Hard]
01:01:823 (2) - 音效有点脱线，建议换个清脆一点的声音，比如默认softwhistle，这里的音感觉和01:09:489 (4,5,6,7) - 不是同一类
01:16:323 - 这里的话我是更习惯白线单点..我觉得这样有点怪
[一米四]
00:01:656 (4) - 别弧度这么大吧，不太好康
00:05:322 (1) - 这里是不是更适合逆flow？像你前面00:03:989 (1) - 这样，可能顺的也行，不过让它离远一点
00:07:323 (4,5,6,7) - 这里的话，我听起来的感觉似乎应该ctrl+g一下，适合向上走的flow，它和00:06:656 (1,2,3) - 听起来是有点相似之处的，2,3的音越来越高，向上走，之后的4567也是越来越高，改成向上走或许更好一些
00:11:656 (6) - 或许转盘应该在这里开始？
00:15:989 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这里我听起来感觉也和上面说的那个地方像是同一种，所以4567的摆法类似前面顺着单点比较好
00:28:656 (3) - 改成滑条？00:25:989 (3) - 节奏上不跟人声的话，这里让它打起来感觉一致我觉得可能更好
00:31:323 (3) - ^
01:06:989 (2,3) - 衔接的地方音效有点脱线，这里的音感觉和01:05:989 (3,4,5,6,7) - 不是同一类，所以不太适合用一样的音效
[雷米]
00:11:823 (1) - 感觉音效不太适合
00:12:989 (1) - 这里突然加速，给人感觉上是后面间距会增大的样子，但是后面比较平缓，感觉不是很舒服，感觉之后的一段sv加大一些，或者这个滑条不要这么快可能会好一些
00:34:656 (1,2) - 改成长滑条是不是好一些？前面有点激烈，长滑条能让人放松一下而且这里人声拉长也挺合曲
01:09:489 (1,2,3) - 放在356,36附近可能更舒服一些，这样的话01:08:989 (3,4,5) - 给人感觉是横着打，01:09:489 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 给人感觉是竖着来，我觉得比较清晰而且舒服
[主难度]
00:16:656 (3,4,5,6) - 这里的话，听起来感觉需要和00:15:989 (1,2) - 在读图上分开，这四个音应该让他视觉上就感觉出和前面不一样，建议把00:16:489 (2) - 叠在00:15:989 (1) - 尾巴下以区分
00:54:656 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 间距可以比前面的大一些
00:55:989 (1,1) - 没有什么特别需要强调的音，这里逆flow可能感觉不如顺的好
01:06:323 (1,2,3) - 01:11:489 (2,3,4) - 像是在打空气，感觉可以加个音效
01:25:573 (2,3,4,5,6) - 其实这里可以玩音量渐增，感觉挺合曲的
01:35:781 (8,9,1) - 8应该在01:35:781 - ，然后从01:35:864 - 开始是一个1/8的三连

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Imouto koko 2018-01-01T08:44:36+00:00

papapa213 wrote:
[一米四]
00:01:656 (4) - 别弧度这么大吧，不太好康改了。
00:05:322 (1) - 这里是不是更适合逆flow？像你前面00:03:989 (1) - 这样，可能顺的也行，不过让它离远一点改远了。
00:07:323 (4,5,6,7) - 这里的话，我听起来的感觉似乎应该ctrl+g一下，适合向上走的flow，它和00:06:656 (1,2,3) - 听起来是有点相似之处的，2,3的音越来越高，向上走，之后的4567也是越来越高，改成向上走或许更好一些这地方本来就在最顶端了要拉个向上的不是丑了就是太远了，水平有限，不改了。
00:11:656 (6) - 或许转盘应该在这里开始？不太合适，前面的音还没结束，优先考虑前面的吧。
00:15:989 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这里我听起来感觉也和上面说的那个地方像是同一种，所以4567的摆法类似前面顺着单点比较好本来是这样的，仔细听了听感觉3比4音高。
00:28:656 (3) - 改成滑条？00:25:989 (3) - 节奏上不跟人声的话，这里让它打起来感觉一致我觉得可能更好这个没感觉出来……
00:31:323 (3) - ^
01:06:989 (2,3) - 衔接的地方音效有点脱线，这里的音感觉和01:05:989 (3,4,5,6,7) - 不是同一类，所以不太适合用一样的音效改了，随便换了个重一点的。

Firika

Beatmap Nominator

278 posts

Joined January 2017

Firika 2018-01-01T17:42:48+00:00

papapa213 wrote:
[雷米]
00:11:823 (1) - 感觉音效不太适合 Fixed √
00:12:989 (1) - 这里突然加速，给人感觉上是后面间距会增大的样子，但是后面比较平缓，感觉不是很舒服，感觉之后的一段sv加大一些，或者这个滑条不要这么快可能会好一些 保留只是觉得背景音的改变需要一个加速滑条体现...
00:34:656 (1,2) - 改成长滑条是不是好一些？前面有点激烈，长滑条能让人放松一下而且这里人声拉长也挺合曲 其实后面背景有3个音. 用1/2 slider+ note了,空着是有点不好... Fixed √
01:09:489 (1,2,3) - 放在356,36附近可能更舒服一些，这样的话01:08:989 (3,4,5) - 给人感觉是横着打，01:09:489 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - 给人感觉是竖着来，我觉得比较清晰而且舒服 bdbf啪啪啪大师,之前我本来是想过,当时突然不会弄了...改了下flow,好多了... Fixed √

感谢啪啪啪的摸.~

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Dored

287 posts

Joined May 2017

Topic Starter

Dored 2018-01-02T01:59:11+00:00

papapa213 wrote:
[Easy]
00:04:989 (2) - ds，低难度好像误差应该在0.03以下改了
[Normal]
00:09:323 (2) - 加nc然后去掉前面1的nc吧嗯嗯改了
[Hard]
01:01:823 (2) - 音效有点脱线，建议换个清脆一点的声音，比如默认softwhistle，这里的音感觉和01:09:489 (4,5,6,7) - 不是同一类好的
01:16:323 - 这里的话我是更习惯白线单点..我觉得这样有点怪 emm这一段是主vocal的我觉得没什么问题
[主难度]
00:16:656 (3,4,5,6) - 这里的话，听起来感觉需要和00:15:989 (1,2) - 在读图上分开，这四个音应该让他视觉上就感觉出和前面不一样，建议把00:16:489 (2) - 叠在00:15:989 (1) - 尾巴下以区分 00:16:489 (2) - prev:x1.05 next:x1.80 已经在距离上做了区分了我觉得这样足以
00:54:656 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - 间距可以比前面的大一些好的在原来的间距上x了1.05
00:55:989 (1,1) - 没有什么特别需要强调的音，这里逆flow可能感觉不如顺的好哦我的想法是这里歌词yu是四声 ki是一声所以一个往下走另一个往上走我觉得还好
01:06:323 (1,2,3) - 01:11:489 (2,3,4) - 像是在打空气，感觉可以加个音效嗯都加了
01:25:573 (2,3,4,5,6) - 其实这里可以玩音量渐增，感觉挺合曲的改啦
01:35:781 (8,9,1) - 8应该在01:35:781 - ，然后从01:35:864 - 开始是一个1/8的三连呃我觉得在结尾没必要弄个1/8的来让玩家很不愉快我看下蕾咪那个难度我想他那个下法是对的我按那种下法改了

感谢摸图！

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

sahuang 2018-01-02T17:06:08+00:00

给个摸

Easy
00:36:656 (3,1) - 这两个做的对称一下会好看很多，比如00:36:656 (3) - 横着翻一下当（1）
00:49:989 (3,1) - 这边的flow不是很顺，要么3的弧度大一点或者后面的滑条往下

Normal
01:26:489 - 建议加个圈，这边downbeat挺明显的
这个做的不错

Hard
00:36:989 (6) - 别touch hp bar
00:46:156 (3,2,4) - 可以做的对称一点，比如平行或者什么的（more aesthetics）
01:25:823 (2) - 折返的地方是重音，这样放打起来会不太舒服，建议变成圈+滑条然后圈stack滑条头
01:34:573 - 漏拍
01:35:823 (5) - 1/6吧

koko
00:15:989 (1,4) - very uncomfortable/messy overlap here
00:18:323 (5,1) - this is kind of misleading and will be easily mistaken as 1/4 reverses...i think you should try rotate it instead. Something like this: http://puu.sh/ySKnO/5acf79b280.jpg try to avoid overlap between 00:17:323 (1,5) -
00:19:989 (1,5,6,7) - due to stack leniency they are not perfectly stacked, please manually adjust them
00:21:989 (3) - i would expect a similar shape with 00:21:323 (1,2) -
00:28:323 (2) - rotate a bit for smoother angle
00:28:323 (2,3,4) - tricky pattern here, maybe NC 00:28:656 (3) - and 00:31:323 (3) - for better readability
00:30:156 (3) - simply use 00:29:823 (2) - and do a reflection
00:33:823 (4,5,6,7) - stacking issue as mentioned above
00:30:156 (3,4,1) - flow is extremely uncomfortable
00:44:156 (2,3) - parallel to each other?
00:56:489 (5,6,7,1) - increase the distance here a bit. Your previous 1/2 gaps are like 00:55:989 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) -
01:01:323 (1,2) - this spacing is more like 1/4 rather than 1/2 dude
01:07:823 (1,3) - swap NC
01:11:656 (4,1,2) - weird placement, try sth else that is less messy
01:34:573 - missing beat
Overall there are a lot of places that should be polished imo, the style is fine, just need more beauty lol

Oiso
00:31:489 (5,7) - 这边没鼓点也没vocal，感觉不需要跳
00:34:989 (2) - 请用滑条，间距也太小了，初见1/4
01:08:489 (2,3) - 这种间距也有点小
01:18:489 (1,3) - blanket
01:32:489 (3,6) - 别贴一起

主难度
00:09:989 - 提个建议，可以sv降一点用两个短一点的滑条，体现了音调的降低
00:23:989 (1,3) - 分开一点
00:26:322 (2,3) - g一下节奏就对了
00:29:323 (1) - 圈+滑条吧，1/1太简单了，这边vocal丰富一下
00:30:656 - clickable
00:31:156 (6,1,2,3) - 这边很难受的就是所有滑条尾反而是最重的音，最好把节奏改一下
00:33:323 - 这边也是，00:32:989 (4,1) - g一下
00:50:656 (1,2) - blanket
01:15:156 (3,4) - ctrl+G 节奏和flow都会好
01:18:156 (2,1) - 节奏反一下，其实01:18:656 - 才是开始
01:18:489 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 个人不支持无脑这样摆，这边音乐并不是一模一样的哒哒哒哒，比如01:19:489 - 其实没什么音，还是一个程度的跳就很没意思了
01:30:823 (2,3,4) - 可以做得更好看一些，现在的间距不好，还有其实01:31:656 - 做成单点会更好
01:31:823 (1) - remove NC
01:33:156 (1,2,3) - 可以做的更顺手自然一些http://puu.sh/ySL5A/9823217e10.jpg

总的来说作为1st已经挺好了，你改了我再看看吧，koko的可以再找一两个摸

Imouto koko

95 posts

Joined January 2016

Imouto koko 2018-01-02T21:28:19+00:00

sahuang wrote:
koko
00:15:989 (1,4) - very uncomfortable/messy overlap here 转了个角度。
00:18:323 (5,1) - this is kind of misleading and will be easily mistaken as 1/4 reverses...i think you should try rotate it instead. Something like this: http://puu.sh/ySKnO/5acf79b280.jpg try to avoid overlap between 00:17:323 (1,5) - 方向换了。
00:19:989 (1,5,6,7) - due to stack leniency they are not perfectly stacked, please manually adjust them 做完忘了检查了，改了。
00:21:989 (3) - i would expect a similar shape with 00:21:323 (1,2) - 感觉直着接note跳会比较符合读图。
00:28:323 (2) - rotate a bit for smoother angle 改了。
00:28:323 (2,3,4) - tricky pattern here, maybe NC 00:28:656 (3) - and 00:31:323 (3) - for better readability 有道理。
00:30:156 (3) - simply use 00:29:823 (2) - and do a reflection 感觉没必要？00:29:323 (1,3) - 这样的形状/overlap感觉比较舒服。
00:33:823 (4,5,6,7) - stacking issue as mentioned above 嗯嗯改了。
00:30:156 (3,4,1) - flow is extremely uncomfortable 滑条换了个方向，可能好点了。
00:44:156 (2,3) - parallel to each other? 这个平行的话折返可能不那么明显，但是略微的错位也有点丑，先加大了一些角度稍微好看一点了。
00:56:489 (5,6,7,1) - increase the distance here a bit. Your previous 1/2 gaps are like 00:55:989 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 换了个地方放连打了。
01:01:323 (1,2) - this spacing is more like 1/4 rather than 1/2 dude 唔，稍微拉大了一点，感觉全图的1/4还是挺清晰的都有overlap了。
01:07:823 (1,3) - swap NC 改了。
01:11:656 (4,1,2) - weird placement, try sth else that is less messy 拉开了不overlap了。
01:34:573 - missing beat 补了。
Overall there are a lot of places that should be polished imo, the style is fine, just need more beauty lol thx!

very helpful. thx for mod!

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Firika

Beatmap Nominator

278 posts

Joined January 2017

Firika 2018-01-03T02:56:51+00:00

sahuang wrote:
给个摸
Oiso
00:31:489 (5,7) - 这边没鼓点也没vocal，感觉不需要跳 7有vocal上扬这个跳留着了，5那个改了 √
00:34:989 (2) - 请用滑条，间距也太小了，初见1/4 改了 √
01:08:489 (2,3) - 这种间距也有点小改了 √
01:18:489 (1,3) - blanket 改了 √
01:32:489 (3,6) - 别贴一起 改了（换了个角度） √

感谢给皇的摸,很有用

Oiso's Insane

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sahuang wrote:
给个摸

Easy
00:36:656 (3,1) - 这两个做的对称一下会好看很多，比如00:36:656 (3) - 横着翻一下当（1） Fixed
00:49:989 (3,1) - 这边的flow不是很顺，要么3的弧度大一点或者后面的滑条往下 Fixed

Normal
01:26:489 - 建议加个圈，这边downbeat挺明显的 Fixed
这个做的不错谢谢

Hard
00:36:989 (6) - 别touch hp bar Fixed
00:46:156 (3,2,4) - 可以做的对称一点，比如平行或者什么的（more aesthetics） Fixed
01:25:823 (2) - 折返的地方是重音，这样放打起来会不太舒服，建议变成圈+滑条然后圈stack滑条头 Fixed
01:34:573 - 漏拍 Fixed
01:35:823 (5) - 1/6吧这个改了是改了但是我听的是1/8 后面oiso和主难度也用了1/8 请再听一下

主难度
00:09:989 - 提个建议，可以sv降一点用两个短一点的滑条，体现了音调的降低 Fixed
00:23:989 (1,3) - 分开一点 Fixed
00:26:322 (2,3) - g一下节奏就对了 Fixed
00:29:323 (1) - 圈+滑条吧，1/1太简单了，这边vocal丰富一下 Fixed
00:30:656 - clickable Fixed
00:31:156 (6,1,2,3) - 这边很难受的就是所有滑条尾反而是最重的音，最好把节奏改一下嗯这一段节奏基本都改了一下
00:33:323 - 这边也是，00:32:989 (4,1) - g一下 Fixed
00:50:656 (1,2) - blanket Fixed
01:15:156 (3,4) - ctrl+G 节奏和flow都会好 Fixed
01:18:156 (2,1) - 节奏反一下，其实01:18:656 - 才是开始 Fixed
01:18:489 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - 个人不支持无脑这样摆，这边音乐并不是一模一样的哒哒哒哒，比如01:19:489 - 其实没什么音，还是一个程度的跳就很没意思了目前这种摆法感觉相对整洁一些我现在摆变距跳相对有些吃力摆出来的感觉有些乱暂且没改
01:30:823 (2,3,4) - 可以做得更好看一些，现在的间距不好，还有其实01:31:656 - 做成单点会更好 Fixed
01:31:823 (1) - remove NC Fixed
01:33:156 (1,2,3) - 可以做的更顺手自然一些http://puu.sh/ySL5A/9823217e10.jpg Fixed

总的来说作为1st已经挺好了，你改了我再看看吧，koko的可以再找一两个摸

Thanks for mod!

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