23:00 CrumpetFiddler: HI]
23:00 CrumpetFiddler: can i talk to u for a sec
23:00 Couil: sure man
23:00 CrumpetFiddler: so
23:00 *CrumpetFiddler is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1396288 TrySail - adrenaline!!! -TV Ver- [Hard]]
23:01 CrumpetFiddler: theres alot wrong with this from what i can see, and ive not really looked at your mapping
23:01 CrumpetFiddler: 1 your offset is wrong, 2 you have 2 timing points at the start of the song?
23:02 Couil: t0ok these straight from the ranked STD chart, so pretty sure there shouldn't be any problem with the offset or the timing points
23:02 CrumpetFiddler: take them from the mania chart
23:02 CrumpetFiddler: that just got ranked
23:02 *CrumpetFiddler is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288682 TrySail - adrenaline!!! -TV Ver-]
23:02 CrumpetFiddler: your offset is off by almost 20
23:02 CrumpetFiddler: and the timing point is just dumb tbh, it serves no purpose
23:03 Couil: okey
23:03 CrumpetFiddler: do you mind if i just irc?
23:03 CrumpetFiddler: itd be easier for me tbh
23:03 Couil: sure
23:03 CrumpetFiddler: also
23:03 CrumpetFiddler: preview point
23:03 CrumpetFiddler: holy shit
23:04 CrumpetFiddler: fix plz
23:04 CrumpetFiddler: its starts way too late
23:04 Couil: whats wrong with it?
23:04 Couil: its at the start of the kai doe
23:04 CrumpetFiddler: it starts mid word for one
23:04 CrumpetFiddler: 00:48:198 -
23:05 CrumpetFiddler: not that thats relevent
23:05 CrumpetFiddler: start your kiai there
23:05 Couil: lol
23:05 CrumpetFiddler: *cough same time as the mania map cough*
23:05 Couil: sure
23:05 CrumpetFiddler: i understand your going for a kinda ln'y map for your hard diff right
23:06 Couil: yeye
23:06 CrumpetFiddler: gross
23:06 Couil: : )
23:06 CrumpetFiddler: i dont ln much
23:06 Couil: same
23:06 CrumpetFiddler: but i can tell when things feel horrible to play
23:06 CrumpetFiddler: 00:00:959 (959|3,1183|1,1407|0,1631|1,1855|3,2079|0,2303|2) - i get what these follow
23:07 CrumpetFiddler: buut they feel terrible to play
23:07 CrumpetFiddler: the sound also doesnt stop on the red line
23:07 Couil: ye ik, havent gone around to fixing it, thinking about removing them all together
23:07 CrumpetFiddler: nope
23:07 CrumpetFiddler: even easier
23:07 CrumpetFiddler: make the lns go to the white line
23:07 Couil: ye i know, wanted to contrast it from the 2nd section
23:08 Couil: since there's a guitar added then
23:08 CrumpetFiddler: and remove all the single notes on then red line
23:08 CrumpetFiddler: since you cant really hear those beats they arnt really needed
23:08 CrumpetFiddler: or you can keep em
23:08 CrumpetFiddler: probs should keep em
23:08 CrumpetFiddler: but extend the lns
23:09 CrumpetFiddler: 00:06:109 (6109|3,6109|0,6109|2,6444|2,6444|3,6444|0) -
23:09 CrumpetFiddler: nothing objectivly wrong
23:09 CrumpetFiddler: but same pattern
23:09 CrumpetFiddler: gross
23:09 CrumpetFiddler: make one of them different
23:09 CrumpetFiddler: also dont copy and paste plz
23:10 CrumpetFiddler:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9225485 its pretty apparent where its used and it doesnt feel fun when playing
23:11 Couil: wat
23:11 Couil: i just made them like that to follow the pitches
23:11 Couil: :thinking:
23:11 Couil: thought you were refering to the next secton of the hard diff lol
23:12 CrumpetFiddler: those lns i was
23:12 CrumpetFiddler: 00:06:109 (6109|2,6109|3,6109|0,6444|3,6444|2,6444|0) - these ones
23:12 Couil: well ye
23:12 CrumpetFiddler: make one of them not the same
23:12 Couil: but thought you meant the copy paste was in the hard diff
23:12 Couil: ehh idk, same pitches
23:12 CrumpetFiddler: same pitches
23:12 Couil: would be weird to change em up imo
23:12 CrumpetFiddler: but not fun to play
23:12 CrumpetFiddler: play for the feel plz
23:13 CrumpetFiddler: 00:06:780 (6780|2) - end this ln when the one on the right ends
23:13 Couil: think changin em just make it more awkward to pla
23:13 Couil: y
23:13 CrumpetFiddler: because its awkward to play
23:13 CrumpetFiddler: 00:06:780 (6780|2,8347|2,8459|1) - talking about pitches this should be the the other way around
23:14 CrumpetFiddler: same with this, control+h 00:06:780 (6780|2,8347|2,8459|1,11930|3,12041|1) -
23:14 CrumpetFiddler: fuck
23:14 CrumpetFiddler: 00:11:930 (11930|3,12041|1) -
23:14 CrumpetFiddler: 00:13:721 (13721|2,13833|1) -
23:14 CrumpetFiddler: same
23:16 Couil: ye changed en
23:16 Couil: em
23:16 Couil: '
23:16 CrumpetFiddler: 00:24:243 (24243|0,24243|1) - this should go till the white line
23:17 CrumpetFiddler: also move the note at the end out of the way
23:17 Couil: ye
23:18 CrumpetFiddler: im taking a while, im also checking for copy paste
23:18 CrumpetFiddler: so bear with me
23:19 Couil: yeye np man
23:19 CrumpetFiddler: control+h
23:19 CrumpetFiddler: 00:27:153 (27153|2,27377|3) -
23:19 CrumpetFiddler: 00:27:041 (27041|0) - move to col 3
23:19 Couil: probably some copy paste later in the map
23:19 CrumpetFiddler: you need to avoid that
23:19 CrumpetFiddler: im not going to be looking out for it inparticular
23:19 CrumpetFiddler: but bns do
23:20 Couil: yeye
23:21 CrumpetFiddler: these feel weirdf
23:21 CrumpetFiddler: 00:38:347 (38347|2,38459|2,38571|1,38683|1) -
23:21 CrumpetFiddler: i wouldnt have them as jacks
23:22 CrumpetFiddler: 00:39:243 (39243|1,39355|1,39467|3,39579|3) - goes for this to
23:22 CrumpetFiddler: 00:40:138 (40138|1,40250|1,40362|2,40474|2) -
23:22 Couil: okey
23:23 CrumpetFiddler: 00:43:721 (43721|1,43721|2,43944|1,44168|1,44168|2) - ignoring cols 1 and 4 here
23:24 CrumpetFiddler: 00:46:183 (46183|2,46295|2) - also avoid this
23:25 CrumpetFiddler: i also
23:25 CrumpetFiddler: cant help but notice youve copied the lns accross difficulties
23:26 CrumpetFiddler: Yes is good to keep consistancy
23:26 Couil: i have=
23:26 Couil: ?
23:26 CrumpetFiddler: no dont make them the exact same
23:26 CrumpetFiddler:
https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/922557223:26 CrumpetFiddler: it goes for most of kiai time
23:26 CrumpetFiddler: theyre the exact same
23:26 Couil: oh right
23:26 Couil: think i followed the pitch
23:26 Couil: or at least tried to
23:26 CrumpetFiddler: you should mix it up regardless
23:27 CrumpetFiddler: try to make it feel different
23:27 Couil: but i guess for better playabillity it might be better to mix em up
23:27 CrumpetFiddler: theres more than one way to map things you just cant keep em the exact same
23:28 CrumpetFiddler: 01:06:333 (66333|0,66556|1,66780|2) - this feels weird because its one of the only times you follow the vocals instead of the beat
23:28 CrumpetFiddler: i take that back, you did it here aswell
23:28 CrumpetFiddler: 00:52:004 (52004|1,52228|3,52452|0) - i think its still wrong, but its consistant so it doesnt matter, you can keep if you want i guess
23:29 CrumpetFiddler: 01:12:601 - note here
23:29 CrumpetFiddler: 01:13:049 -
23:29 CrumpetFiddler: 01:13:497 -
23:29 CrumpetFiddler: 01:13:944 -
23:29 Couil: sv
23:29 Couil:
23:29 CrumpetFiddler: oh, i also think svs arnt needed for the map
23:30 CrumpetFiddler:
https://puu.sh/xOaU8/bacfe78ff6.png23:30 CrumpetFiddler: before speaking to you
23:30 CrumpetFiddler: but eh, if you want to keep them go ahead, im not sure how to tell you how the feel svs arnt my strong point
23:30 CrumpetFiddler: 01:19:541 (79541|2,79653|1,79765|2,79877|1) - no to trills
23:31 Couil: okok, want to keep em, as they make the map more interesting imo
23:31 CrumpetFiddler: 01:21:333 - no ln here
23:31 CrumpetFiddler: but theres one in the easier diff
23:31 CrumpetFiddler: 01:22:228 - and here
23:31 Couil: i did it on the other ones as well but sure
23:31 Couil: SV
23:31 Couil: again
23:31 Couil: : )
23:31 Couil: but i can add a LN i guess
23:31 CrumpetFiddler: im still gunna say it
23:31 CrumpetFiddler: if you choose to remove the svs
23:31 CrumpetFiddler: ln
23:31 CrumpetFiddler: if not
23:31 CrumpetFiddler: dont
23:32 Couil: might as well add a LN since it doesn't really affect the sv at all
23:32 CrumpetFiddler: offset should be 755, as per the ranked version
23:33 Couil: yeye i'll change that i guess, weird that the STD chart got ranked with wrong offset doe
23:33 CrumpetFiddler: well im just going off the newest ranked version
23:33 CrumpetFiddler: also
23:33 CrumpetFiddler: std and mania are not the same
23:34 Couil: yeye ik, but it's still follows the same offset
23:35 CrumpetFiddler: Thats about all tbh
23:35 CrumpetFiddler: just make sure that rogue timing point is fixed
23:36 Couil: yeye, will apply em later today
23:36 Couil: or well now i guess
23:36 CrumpetFiddler: later or now idm
23:36 Couil: i always say later in forum mods xd
23:36 CrumpetFiddler: ill post it now