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But you didn't say that on your original read list, that only makes me wonder if you just arbitraly decided Lincolm was scum.johnmedina999 wrote:
Well, it is true that both are very analytic, but Lincolm is still on my scum radar for the 1v1 claim I posted earlier; even so, his last post and his overall confidence are making me change my mind ever so slightly, although the latter might just be good acting, and the former might be me being a n00b. I'll have to wait and see.Zexion wrote:
I'm curious about this. If foxtrot is town for her analytical posts, then Lincolm should also fall into that category (specially for this post) but you are (or were?) reading him as scum. Your reads aren't consistent.
I often don't consider this as a valid reason for holding a vote. L-1 is where magic happens, but yeah, its debatable whether or not put someone at L-1 on a newbie game because of people not often realizing how dangerous quickhammers are. However, considering the deadline, I think it's not THAT risky to put someone at L-1.Hika wrote:
I dont want scum to come along and 'accidentally' hammer abraker also. Would be dumb for anyone else to vote him without a complete town decision. hope you see where im coming from
this is horrible lmaoFoxtrot wrote:
why would he answer red? are you trying to distract us from actual scum and shift the attention to the new players?Lincolm wrote:
That's logical answer. And no, I just ask if you get red or green colour, hoping you to answer red somehow.
Well-written flavour, though.Hey Zekks, what do you think about John?this further proves my suspicion; stop trying to initiate a bandwagon, it's not working
Vote: Lincolm
I'm starting to think this is playstyle cause you sound so forced and unnaturalFoxtrot wrote:
you're acting very scummy, zekks. if you're town, i advise you to stop it. you're most likely not.
I know I am going a full 180 on this, but something just clicked in me. Zekks role claim doesn't look like a bad option, but as Hika said, he might be doing it wrong. All I can do is cross my fingers and hope it is what I think it is.[ - Zekks - ] wrote:
As long as I'm still alive, no mafia can't stop me
That is better. A 3/9 turn out is not bad, however the quote I responded to had you with a 5/9+ turn out according to what you said here, "I have more people in the red rather than green, sad to say". Ofc, I didn't consider null now that I think of it.Hika wrote:
Real quick before I answer Foxtrot's post, it is possible to have more than 2 scum reads. I think it's fucked up abraker thinks I cant have that lol.
Like I said, I currently have two leaning scum and one possible scum.
Hika wrote:
oh shit I'm so slow I forgot we have possible PRs
Slow your role bros, zekks could be a PR and doing it wrong
Hika wrote:
Also, self voting strategy shouldn't be mentioned here. Maybe google it cause we're currently in game and dont want mafia doing anything with that information.
Hika wrote:
You're not forcing me to do anything don't worry! I'm back from drinking so I'll post a bit.Dawnsday wrote:
Strikes me as a LAMIST post mainly due to the "dont want mafia doing anything with that information". Just feels like such a weird addition to the sentence in general, ending at "we're currently in game" would've been acceptable but the last bit seems to be tacked on solely to remind us you're not mafia.
Also upon actually rereading you don't have as many posts I find questionable as I seem to have remembered. You're probably still pretty null for me honestly. Sorry for forcing you to do stuff on your drinking night, I'm just giving my honest views!
also @mod can we have a votecount
I can definitely see where it could rub you incorrectly, but I meant it in a way where I wouldn't want to give the wrong people information that would work against town. I have many ways where I, myself as a player, would implement self-voting but would rather not go in depth with it this game.
Lets just say in my opinion, I see it as a shitty town confirming tactic as well as a ballsy scum move. As I said before, I'd rather have an anti town than a scum deceiving me but if that anti town is being extremely counteractive in our scum hunting, I'd be willing to get rid of them D1 to save town the trouble of being confused later on down the road.
Hika wrote:
my leaning town reads are john n dawn
red leaning would be linc, zekks
red being abraker
everyone is like really null too me.
my FoS is on Foxtrot cuz she was over analyzing but I could be over looking that
LOLLincolm wrote:
Vote : abraker because PoE (L-3)
I read this as dawn actually saying he'd like it better if zekks was never conceived and I was laughing so hardDawnsday wrote:
Why? If he's not commited to reading he's going to hurt town in the long run. It's not FUN to policy lynch rest assured I'd rather the idea was never even conceived but honestly.Lincolm wrote:
, but I hate policy lynch also.
me_irlHika wrote:
I have more people in the red rather than green, sad to say
THIS IS EXACRLTAce Timing wrote:
me_irlHika wrote:
I have more people in the red rather than green, sad to say
y'all are so scummy for no reason
LOLabraker wrote:
To level this uncertainty off, I ask you to analyze your own posts and come up with a detailed read on yourself.
And why?abraker wrote:
To level this uncertainty off, I ask you to analyze your own posts and come up with a detailed read on yourself.
So are my posts leaning townie or mafia? You're confusing meabraker wrote:
Your posts are turning out too null or leaning townie, but since I know how analytically helpful behavior goes, it can be either town or mafia.
Your posts are full of valid points and analysis, and it's hard to find a fault in them, at least for me. People are prone to bias when talking about themselves, more so when trying to hide something. It will be an interesting analysis to read because it will highlight either your bias or faults. To put it in layman terms, I have a hard time reading you despite your activity.Foxtrot wrote:
And why?
I am saying that your posts are leaning townie, but they also are reminiscent of my tactics in the first game I played where I was scum.Foxtrot wrote:
So are my posts leaning townie or mafia? You're confusing me
I'm pretty sure you need more than one bait for scumhunting.abraker wrote:
I am scum-hunting, but subtly. It's just that no fish took my bait yet, sadly.
I fail to see why voting me should be cautious when I'm at L-4.Hika wrote:
we have like two more days in the game left, i'm not voting you cuz i dont see anyone else posting today? @Lincolm
I said I'm sticking my vote on him after that post, though. Because I don't see why and how his action is coming from town, at all.johnmedina999 wrote:
Yes, I know what PoE is. However, you only just started PoE here. Your PoE strategy does not include all the rest of your posts against abraker when the 1v1 could have ended long ago. Again, don't hold me against my claim, because this might be perfectly normal in a game and it just may be my lack of experience.
Thanks, Lucifer, Hika wasn't L-1.Ace Timing wrote:
I HAVEN'T READ ANYTHING BUT I'M JESUS SO
Hika
Uh-huh. Because I can.Ace Timing wrote:
LOL
is this PoE on day one? How the fuck dude?
Have you considered what if they are newbie? because I read three of them as newbie.Ace Timing wrote:
Scum:
Foxtrot
johnmedina999
[ - Zekks - ]
I'm exceedingly lazyLincolm wrote:
So you like your vote in Hika, your townread, instead your scumread? Interesting choice
He's got a tone of awkwardness and stiffness that I don't particularly like. I also find a few of his posts quite egregrious.rEdo wrote:
@Ace Timing: what makes you think Foxtrot is scum?
Explain how this one indicates scum. Looks like a legit reaction to me.Ace Timing wrote:
p/6177786/
This one is less, but Hika showed similar concern here, and you have her as town. More parallels between the two on the subject here and here.Ace Timing wrote:
p/6181003/
Foxtrot wrote:
No, you do have a choice. And that choice is not to off yourself. Are you trying to do this to make yourself more believable?abraker wrote:
Well since we can forgive zekks's concerning stupidity, PoE looks sexy as fuck, and I would like to bring my end of the deal, I guess I have no choice either
vote: abraker
It reads sour to me as disingenuous because it looks like he's trying to twist things into being scummy and then asking them if they're doing it. Feels like ez faux-scumhuntingFoxtrot wrote:
are you deliberately avoiding my question?[ - Zekks - ] wrote:
Who's her?
I am still trying to figure out Foxtrot and have trouble seeing that, but it is a helpful explanation.Ace Timing wrote:
It reads sour to me as disingenuous because it looks like he's trying to twist things into being scummy and then asking them if they're doing it. Feels like ez faux-scumhunting
Still noob enough not to know what this meansAce Timing wrote:
faux-scumhunting
faux is a french word for falseabraker wrote:
Still noob enough not to know what this meansAce Timing wrote:
faux-scumhunting
rEdo wrote:
Why are you so mean already
I haven't seen Zekks in ourrecursivetown yet, so he must be the bad guy!
Vote: [ - Zekks - ]
rEdo wrote:
I did, except for Foxtrot. Nice try. >:)
rEdo wrote:
Actually, I don't recall playing with john, but I saw him on the forums like a month ago or so, that's why I somehow remember him.
rEdo wrote:
[quote="[ - Zekks - ]"Or I can change my vote to Lincolm, because Foxtrot has decent amount of evidence to support the fact that Lincolm could be the mafia
rEdo wrote:
wow are you serious that this quote box has fucked up LOL
rEdo wrote:
[ - Zekks - ] wrote:
Or I can change my vote to Lincolm, because Foxtrot has decent amount of evidence to support the fact that Lincolm could be the mafia
What do you mean by decent?
(oh, I fucked it up.)
rEdo wrote:
Let this one be a lesson to new guys, too: DO NOT EDIT YOUR POSTS, even if you messed up your formatting. It's third-rate, the content and the intent to send such content is the meat that we want.
rEdo wrote:
jesus I forgot to copy my LastPass password for osu! somewhere to log in at work I will catch up tomorrow, I don't really have time tonight to do all the stuff.
rEdo wrote:
Back, catching up.
rEdo wrote:
[ - Zekks - ] wrote:
I would reconsider my vote, but I don't know to vote for
I might vote for Foxtrot, since she is trying to pin everyone on Lincolm, but that seems kinda weak, but I'll still hold onto that
Or I can change my vote to Lincolm, because Foxtrot has decent amount of evidence to support the fact that Lincolm could be the mafia
What do you mean by decent?
What worries me, is the fact that he ignored my question. That was a try to fish out why is he just parrotting the two most active guys. He is either a newb townie that does not really know what is going on, or scum pretending to be one.
[ - Zekks - ] wrote:
As long as I'm still alive, no mafia can't stop me
What the hell is this?
[b][color=#FF40BF]At this point Zekks is the center of attention. However, the Lincolm and Foxtrot quarrel shouldn't imply both are town. In fact, what you guys think about the following: Scum are more likely to start a frenzy questioning players in order to blend in. Ofc that is assuming scum are trying to act like town and are overdoing it.
Also I didn't see that question on bottom after my vote initially. I believe I answered it later on, though I am not sure why jump to conclusions and say "why zekks" if that's the case.
To add on to it, since I didn't see the question, I interpreted the vote as a random thing because why not. It didn't help that Lincolm's vote was the actual "why not" one. Because I saw so little care for voting, I decided to go on ahead and vote for myself with the same "why not" behavior while keeping my word from here. But frankly, my initial idea to vote for my self came from Lincom's questioning of why I did RVS, which sparked the idea of what is the most idiot RVS I can do that mafia wouldn't dare do just like that.[/color][/b][ - Zekks - ] wrote:
I'm just confused, I'm too lazy to look over things asdf. If I die the mafia will have a higher chance of living, so if you decide to kill me off, good luck!
Until this post I thought Zekks was scum, but now I'm somewhat convinced he's just a townie that doesn't give a darn.
Lincolm and Foxtrot 1v1-ish quarrel makes me think they both are town. Zexion is as null as ever, same goes for Hika. Dawnsy goes with analysis over scumhunting, but that's usual for him. Not sure how to read john yet.
Let's try this way.
Unvote
Vote: abraker
Who's scum and why Zekks?
rEdo wrote:
oh and back to work, I might check the thread in 2-3 hours or so.
rEdo wrote:
If you don't give a fuck, why do you even bother playing? If you're town, you might ask for a replacement if you don't want to scumhunt with us. I know this might sound like a neckbeardish thing to say, but we're here to actually play the game, not just chill. A mafia game is somewhat a commitment.
rEdo wrote:
Foxtrot wrote:
Zexion wrote:
Besides, why did abraker vote himself after rEdo if he could have just done it without someone else triggering it? I asked rEdo why he chose abraker and he asked me who would I have chosen instead. I straight up told him I don't know. But he also didn't answer my question, instead asking me another one, and that's a way to dodge a question as well.
so let me ask you again rEdo, why abraker?
That's because he's the most active in my could-be-scum-list, and I wanted to pressure him to fish out his reaction. That's how I usually (and I think that's how people should generally) use my vote. Why specifically abraker? He has shown that little information I could work him. I thought of pressuring john first, but then I realised he could scumslip by trying to get back on the Zekks wagon, because that seems like the easiest lynch scum could pull out today. And hell, that's what happened.
I hate the fact that abraker has not answered my question (who's scum?) yet, too. I feel like I forced out his reads, but he doesn't seem to be actually hunting for scum.
rEdo wrote:
johnmedina999 wrote:
I just noticed that quite a few people are still worried about the Zekks train so I take that bit back.
lol
rEdo wrote:
Lincolm wrote:
Uhh.. there is also many questions to ask to you but my bet you won't respond them.
Isn't the fact that somebody left a question unanswered also a valuable information to work with?
rEdo wrote:
Is anyone alive?
rEdo wrote:
@mod: Please replace Dawnsday and perhaps extend the deadline. Ace Timing, do you want to play in the end?
Yes, if you're town it WOULD help if you were still a no vote.
By that little I did not mean so little, but a little so I could work with it. Self-voting is a terribly bad idea, especially if you were town. I am not sure but you seem way too egocentric when it comes to playing mafia in general. And I just can't help myself to think this is a scum tell.
My vote stands where it was, as my read on abraker changed from leaning scum to scum.
By the way...
Hika wrote:
abraker ur doing the same thing i dont think is a town move and im not going to vote you because it's dumb
Was that a warning from your scumpartner?[/quote]
What? I asked them a question and they completely ignored it but because they asked "who's she" that means they actually read it. I was rightfully irritatedAce Timing wrote:
It reads sour to me as disingenuous because it looks like he's trying to twist things into being scummy and then asking them if they're doing it. Feels like ez faux-scumhuntingFoxtrot wrote:
are you deliberately avoiding my question?
By recursive I just meant that we're playing the mafia game over and over. We keep scumhunting, we keep dying, etcetera.abraker wrote:
RVS vote. Recursive likely hints nothing, though it would be nice of rEdo did say something regarding itrEdo wrote:
Why are you so mean already
I haven't seen Zekks in ourrecursivetown yet, so he must be the bad guy!
Vote: [ - Zekks - ]
Because I saw that as a RVS quarrel and did not take it seriously, so I'd rather wait and see what people have to say.abraker wrote:
Detail picking, but what is interesting is that rEdo completely miss Lincolm's color fiasco as well as him asking too many questions for comfort. Instead rEdo went straight to Zekks. Now this might be due to laziness on mobile judging by how it's hard to fuck up a simple quote box on pc, but then attempting to correct it instead of saying "fuck it" tells me otherwise. So the questions remains open: why didn't rEdo pick up on Lincolm before or after reponding to zekks in that session?
I have already addressed that.abraker wrote:
I am most active yet I provide so little information. Well I can say same about Foxtrot, so eh. It does look like the pressuring John thing is sincere.
I'm not sure. He has provided ISO analyses for two people so far, and I want to say that he's just trying to move the game forward, as we only have 30 hours left.rEdo wrote:
john, what do you think of abraker?
and proceeded to analyse an ISO; I want to say that he's just trying to move the game forward (because there was a 9 hour delay between his post and the last) but another possibility would be that he has the largest number of votes and is trying to get them off desperately because he doesn't want to flip scum. Personally, though, I would just say it's the former.abraker wrote:
Wow nobody? Did we run out of ideas on how to find scum or something?
I think it is very natural responseAce Timing wrote:
It's not the scummiest ISO on earth but it's hard to get a baseline like this lol
Ahoy, mine too.Foxtrot wrote:
sorry guys I had my first day of work today
Why not both? Why not because it was worrying not seeing a response for that long with the day nearing end and why not because suicide D1 is an darn awful way to go regardless what alignment I am? I would be lying if I said that I am not looking for reasons to justify changing my vote to someone else. What might happen is that I change my vote a few hours before the day is up, and that will surely make me look like scum even more. I am digging myself further into this hole as I post, but what to do?johnmedina999 wrote:
I want to say that he's just trying to move the game forward (because there was a 9 hour delay between his post and the last) but another possibility would be that he has the largest number of votes and is trying to get them off desperately because he doesn't want to flip scum. Personally, though, I would just say it's the former.rEdo wrote:
john, what do you think of abraker?